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The Lawspeaker
10-14-2012, 09:16 AM
Do Animals Get Depressed?
Primates, rodents may show signs of sadness, study suggests.

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Chimpanzees' facial expressions can communicate sadness.

Learning more about depression in animals could one day benefit humans, say scientists who believe that mammals share the same basic wiring in their brain for emotions as humans do. (Although not every scientist agrees with that premise.)

In the October 5 issue of Science, Assistant Professor of Neuroscience Olivier Berton and his colleagues at the University of Pennsylvania reviewed recent studies of rodents, primates, and fish who lacked interest in their environment and their fellow animals.

We spoke with Berton about what we do—and don't—know about animal depression.

Do animals get depressed?

Depression is diagnosed in humans based on a list of symptoms that are all very subjective. Common core symptoms include feelings of guilt, thoughts of death, and loss of pleasure. Because animals can't communicate even if they have these kinds of experiences, strictly the answer is: We can't say.

(Read "Animal Minds (http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/03/animal-minds/virginia-morell-text)" in National Geographic magazine.)

What signs may indicate if an animal is depressed?

There are certain aspects of the disease that may be measured in animals. One of the core symptoms of depression is anhedonia, the decrease and loss of interest in pleasurable activities. We measure interest in food that animals like a lot or in motivation for sexual activity. We also measure how they are interacting socially with other animals in the group, and changes in sleep patterns and daytime activities. Another behavior that has been used frequently to measure animal depression is whether they readily give up when exposed to a stressful situation.

What animals seem to exhibit signs of depression?

Definitely the most convincing observations derive from nonhuman primates. Based on behavioral observation, trained observers can say a monkey looks depressed. Because their emotional behaviors are similar to that of humans, just by looking at their facial expressions or the way their gaze is directed, we can get an indication of whether an animal may be experiencing sadness.


Can you really study animals in this environment?

One problem is that many lab studies in primates and rodents are conducted in captive animals that are raised in relatively impoverished conditions compared to their natural habitat. This can cause depression-like changes. Currently there is not a lot of data available that compares animal emotional behaviors in the wild versus in laboratory setting.


How would animals deal with depression in nature?

I don't know. There are very few systematic studies of this kind. It is possible that behavioral disorders in animals in the wild may impair their chances of survival. Maybe there is a point where they cannot deal and are more easily preyed upon.

(See "Is Salt Nature's Antidepressant? (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/090317-salt-antidepressant.html)")


Could domestic animals be depressed?

Veterinarians frequently give antidepressants to dogs to treat their behavioral disorders. For example, if an owner leaves the house and the dogs experience stress related to being separated, they may develop abnormal behaviors such as scratching themselves until they bleed or eating the door. These are thought to represent canine versions of psychiatric disorders. Although human treatments seem to work in dogs, large-scale studies are lacking.

Source: National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/10/121004-animals-depression-health-science/) (October 4, 2012)

ficuscarica
10-14-2012, 09:52 AM
Of course they get sad. They have all kinds of feelings.

Tabiti
10-14-2012, 10:20 AM
One of my dogs was in big depression when the other dog died. She was lying whole day, had no energy at all, which is not typical for mini pincher. I've even seen my dog crying - as a puppy my pincher was together with her brother. When we took her home, the first few days her eyes were with tears.

Flintlocke
10-14-2012, 10:25 AM
Sure they do but if it's your dog you wanna play with it and make it happy, if it's a cow you don't care cause you're gonna eat it anyway, unless it's a milk producing cow, but then again if she doesn't produce milk cause she's depressed... you're gonna eat her anyway. :P

Absinthe
10-14-2012, 10:37 AM
Of course they get depressed :( My cat is chronically depressed and there's not much anyone can do about it :(
Depression is a basically a neurotransmitter imbalance so every creature with an evolved nervous system can suffer from it :(

Caismeachd
10-14-2012, 01:32 PM
We had a dog when younger then got two other dogs a few years later. The older dog became withdrawn and "depressed" but still pleasant and sweet when given attention. I don't think of animals as soulless creatures just for man to use and abuse. They have similar responses and feelings as we do.

Alison
10-14-2012, 03:26 PM
We had two dogs who grew up together. When the Staffie became riddled with cancer, we had him put down. The other dog moped and in the middle of winter, tried repeatedly to drown herself by jumping into the icy swimming pool. No matter how many times we'd try to stop her, she'd run and jump and then sink.

Eventually, we locked her inside and held and loved her, but her heart was completely broken. The nex day we let her outside and she went straight for the pool again. She cried nonstop.

Elephants mourn their dead.

rashka
10-14-2012, 03:38 PM
They do get depressed especially when they sense they are getting killed at the slaughterhouse.

Ushtari
10-14-2012, 03:49 PM
They do get depressed especially when they sense they are getting killed at the slaughterhouse.
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Visigodo Español
10-14-2012, 03:55 PM
:picard2:Well, National Geographic, you pseudo- scientist assholes, the first question must be addressed. Do animals have "souls" (id est, an existential essence such as the relatively minuscule electrical charges that flows through us.. or as Christians put it, a "spirit") and are they mechanical or erratic? Next question-- do animals have brains and cognitive abilities (for the simpletons, can they think?)? If, for example, a man shoots another and the maimed man's dog comes to his rescue, is that not an example of the dog's emotional attachment and loyalty to his human friend?;)

Kazimiera
10-25-2012, 11:41 PM
My husband has a friend who got a dog from a severely depressed woman. Apparently she suffered from depression for many years and it must have rubbed off onto the dog. She committed suicide and hubby's friend took the dog over. Eventually he put the dog on Prozac to get a little more life into it but it didn't help much.