Bajram in your country?

[Hurrem sultana]

This year the islamic world was not united at all,as some nation will celebrate thursday,some friday and some saturday.When is bajram in your countrY?

In Bosnia first it was thursday,then it was changed to friday.so it is friday ,and here in sweden too for most arabs and bosniaks.albanians and turks celebrate thursday ?

[Tabiti]

Ramazan or Kurban Bayram?

[Hurrem sultana]

kurban bajram

[dralos]

ahahhahahahah how did i know that you would make this thread:D

[Tabiti]

kurban bajram
Ah, I guess the Ramazan already passed because they treated me for it two months ago. Don't know when Kurban is.

[Hurrem sultana]

Ah, I guess the Ramazan already passed because they treated me for it two months ago. Don't know when Kurban is.

well now this friday in Bosnia,,for some muslims tomorrow:confused:

[Hurrem sultana]

ahahhahahahah how did i know that you would make this thread:D

when do you celebrate bajram?

[dralos]

friday we eat tave me kepe but thats it

[Hurrem sultana]

friday we eat tave me kepe but thats it

whaaT? they said albania has it on thursday

so now only turks follow thursday:D

[MfA_]

a few hours later :)

[Hurrem sultana]

a few hours later :)

today people fast,while turks celebrate:D

[dralos]

whaaT? they said albania has it on thursday

so now only turks follow thursday:D
is it that important wich day it is,if you're good muslim the message would be alot more interesting for you than the day:)
bad muslima:mad:

[Onur]

This year the islamic world was not united at all,as some nation will celebrate thursday,some friday and some saturday.When is bajram in your countrY?

In Bosnia first it was thursday,then it was changed to friday.so it is friday ,and here in sweden too for most arabs and bosniaks.albanians and turks celebrate thursday ?
Bosnian, unfortunately your country has fallen into Arabic/Wahhabi nonsense :(

Turkey was already always celebrating kurban bayram a day before Arabs because we use astronomical observation for calculating the position of moon but Arabs refuses to use technology and trusts their naked eye for moon phases. They think like bajram starts 2 days later but it`s scientifically proven that it starts tomorrow morning.

Unfortunately Bosnia quit aligning with Turkey and decided to go with the Arabs this year. I suppose this is the sign of growing Wahhabi influence in Balkans :picard1:

[Hurrem sultana]

is it that important wich day it is,if you're good muslim the message would be alot more interesting for you than the day:)
bad muslima:mad:

i guess it is because tomorrow is when the pilgrims go on the arefat,,,so you cant have bajram then

[mysticism]

Do you get presents on Bajram?

[Grizzly]

Wasn't bajram/eid back in august? Why so soon for another holiday?

Can you explain the significance of this holiday coming up? I tried searching the webz but couldn't find anything

[Hurrem sultana]

Wasn't bajram/eid back in august? Why so soon for another holiday?

Can you explain the significance of this holiday coming up? I tried searching the webz but couldn't find anything

This is Kurban bajram,that was ramazan bajram

kurban bajram is about Abraham and his son

[Onur]

Can you explain the significance of this holiday coming up? I tried searching the webz but couldn't find anything
It`s just uncontrolled animal slaughter en masse.

Originally a pagan tradition but still exists in islam.

[Hurrem sultana]

Do you get presents on Bajram?

no,,,you get money if you are kid or youth

[Hurrem sultana]

Bosnian, unfortunately your country has fallen into Arabic/Wahhabi nonsense :(

Turkey was already always celebrating kurban bayram a day before Arabs because we use astronomical observation for calculating the position of moon but Arabs refuses to use technology and trusts their naked eye for moon phases. They think like bajram starts 2 days later but it`s scientifically proven that it starts tomorrow morning.

Unfortunately Bosnia quit aligning with Turkey and decided to go with the Arabs this year. I suppose this is the sign of growing Wahhabi influence in Balkans :picard1:

the piligrimage is after all in saudia...all pilgrims will celebrate friday

[dralos]

bosnian i hope you get new clothes,i seriously do:D

[mysticism]

no,,,you get money if you are kid or youth

So like

9vwc-_ITIKQ


So what do you guys do for the holiday? Dance? Listen to Saban Bajramovic? :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

bosnian i hope you get new clothes,i seriously do:D

See Albania,Macedonia,Turkey celebrate thursday and Kosovo friday

why the difference?

http://www.oslobodjenje.ba/vijesti/region/kosovo-kurbanbajram-u-petak

[Sultan Suleiman]

Aw, this is sad. So what do you guys do for the holiday? Dance? Listen to Saban Bajramovic? :thumb001:

Prepare for the exams in two weeks and finish 3 presentations which are due Monday :(

[Anatolian Eagle]

O God no not this thread again...

[Onur]

the piligrimage is after all in saudia...all pilgrims will celebrate friday
Yes, the ones in Saudi Arabia will celebrate 2 days laters but we are not in there atm. We will celebrate tomorrow in Turkey.

Arabs are wrong about this just like they are wrong in many other things. Anyone with a telescope can see that the moon phase gets completed tomorrow, not the day afterwards.


See Albania,Macedonia,Turkey celebrate thursday and Kosovo friday

why the difference?
The difference is caused by the conversion of islamic moon calendar to Gregorian sun based calendar and the completion of the moon phase.

Arabs calculates it wrong !!!

The countries who aligns themselves with them are clearly under Wahhabi influence, thats certain.

[mysticism]

Prepare for the exams in two weeks and finish 3 presentations which are due Monday :(

No time to for pilgrimage to mecca WTF! Fml

[Hurrem sultana]

The difference is caused by the conversion of islamic moon calendar to Gregorian sun based calendar. Arabs calculates it wrong !!!


I know,but why did the albanians go different ways? for example when bosnian mufti changed it to friday all bosniak communities in serbia,montenegro followed him

[Sultan Suleiman]

No time to for pilgrimage to mecca WTF! Fml

I KNOW! It's a bummer, especially when they are having poke-a-kaffir Friday there. :(

[Hurrem sultana]

I KNOW! It's a bummer, especially when they are having poke-a-kaffir Friday there. :(

:picard1::D

[dralos]

its not important lol i dont know any albanian who cares for this

[Dacul]

Lol what is that custom to put money on the singer?
That is degenerated Islam,not real Islam,sorry.

[Hurrem sultana]

Lol what is that custom to put money on the singer?
That is degenerated Islam,not real Islam,sorry.

no one does that,,,it is arabic tradition on weddings not during bajram

[Onur]

I know,but why did the albanians go different ways? for example when bosnian mufti changed it to friday all bosniak communities in serbia,montenegro followed him
Turkey always celebrated kurban bayram a day before Arabs. We told them that they are wrong but Arabs never listened us and they insist celebrating it a day after from us.

All the Balkan muslims was aligning with Turkey before but it looks like only Albania follows us this year, your Bosnia decided to adopt Arabic way from now on.

[Cannabis Sativa]

In Kurban Bajram i see vegans whining over and over in real life and in several TV channels and then i suggest them to go and eat a bull's testicles. I generally prefer liver kebab but bull's testicles are nice for bbq btw. Spoil the blood and enjoy the Bajram.

[Dacul]

no one does that,,,it is arabic tradition on weddings not during bajram

Maybe that tradition appeared after arab countries sold a lot of oil,lol.

[Hurrem sultana]

Turkey always celebrated kurban bayram a day before Arabs. We told them that they are wrong but Arabs never listened us and they insist celebrating it a day after from us.

All the Balkan muslims was aligning with Turkey before but it looks like only Albania follows us this year, your Bosnia decided to adopt Arabic way from now on.

I have on idea why it changed,but i think muslims should unite and decide to follow one way:rolleyes:

[Mraz]

So....Who is going to slaughter a sheep on friday?

[Onur]

I have on idea why it changed,but i think muslims should unite and decide to follow one way:rolleyes:
Then it must be decided by science, by looking at the moon with a telescope.

I dont know Bosnia but Turkey wont align itself by trusting the naked eye observation of a Bedouin from the Arabian desert.


So....Who is going to slaughter a sheep on friday?
I will do the same thing as i do in every kurban bayram.

Sit back in front of tv, cheer for the renegade animals on tv news by hoping that butchers cuts their own fingers while trying to slaughter the animals.

[Aura]

Lol what is that custom to put money on the singer?
That is degenerated Islam,not real Islam,sorry.

My muslim neighbours celebrate it with alcool, some people here eat pork for bajram dinner only cuz they dont know that it forbidden, anyway I dont think that it is a big deal, its good just to celebrate. Hope tomorrow will get some baklava from my neighbours.

[mysticism]

So....Who is going to slaughter a sheep on friday?

Will you use chainsaw?

[dralos]

I have on idea why it changed,but i think muslims should unite and decide to follow one way:rolleyes:
no albanian takes it serious,we just have laughs and eat nobody knows anything about it

[Hurrem sultana]

no albanian takes it serious,we just have laughs and eat nobody knows anything about it

:rolleyes:

so why do kosovars celebrate friday,and albo albanians tomorrow?

[Sultan Suleiman]

I have on idea why it changed,but i think muslims should unite and decide to follow one way:rolleyes:

Ljubavi ujedinjuj se ti s kojim god hoćeš Somalcem, Arapom ili šta već imate gore, samo ne povlači ostatak Bošnjaka sa tobom.

I danas je Bajram namaz ;)

[Anatolian Eagle]

Onur, you're right but let it be problem of those who care about it, we'll just enjoy the free holiday nothing else :D

[Hurrem sultana]

Ljubavi ujedinjuj se ti s kojim god hoćeš Somalcem, Arapom ili šta već imate gore, samo ne povlači ostatak Bošnjaka sa tobom.

I danas je Bajram namaz ;)

gdje to danas bajram namaz? gdje ces ga klanjati?:rolleyes:

[Onur]

Bosnian, your bajram thread will reach 100th page in a day again, hehe.

The threads about islamic bajrams are the most popular threads in this forum, lol :)

[mysticism]

Bosnian do you wear a fancy hjab or burka for Bajram? Are you a fan of Gucci Burka's

[dralos]

:rolleyes:

so why do kosovars celebrate friday,and albo albanians tomorrow?
bcs the ones running those mosques are thieves and morons
i mean they ask for money to build more mosques instead of helping people,fuckers need to be burned to death
i mean oke have one mosque one church but go help the people you fuckers

[Hurrem sultana]

Bosnian, your bajram thread will reach 100th page in a day again, hehe.

The threads about islamic bajrams are the most popular threads in this forum, lol :)

it only happens 2 times in a year :):D

[mysticism]

JTiuDNtMOUM

Are you a neznalica? Or a prahvi Vjerhehnik, zah prahahvu Bosnahu ;p

[Hurrem sultana]

bcs the ones running those mosques are thieves and morons
i mean they ask for money to build more mosques instead of helping people,fuckers need to be burned to death
i mean oke have one mosque one church but go help the people you fuckers

:D

[Mraz]

The Bosnian pligrim arrived in Mekah :D


http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=55097

[Hurrem sultana]

The Bosnian pligrim arrived in Mekah :D


http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=55097

i am glad he made it :)

[The.Mask]

The Bosnian pligrim arrived in Mekah :D


http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=55097

Big respect for this guy! I remember an history about an old man who gone from Chechnya to Meccah by bike. He said he had problem in Iraq but he finally reached Saudi Arabia.:thumb001:

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Happy steak festival to everyone

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/3170/readmeat.jpg

[Blackout]

http://awamtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/HD-Eid-Mubarak-Islamic-Wallpapers-Pictures-Photos-and-Cards-Collection-2012_021.jpg

[Blackout]

I don't know when it is. But when the moon is sited, that's good enough for me... :)

[Flintlocke]

Bosnian do you wear a fancy hjab or burka for Bajram? Are you a fan of Gucci Burka's

She will pray on a rug with a miniskirt :p

Seriously nobody follows that stuff, back in August in Tirana it was ramazan and people were supposed to be fasting, but everyone was eating everywhere all the restaurants were full.

[mysticism]

She will pray on a rug with a miniskirt :p

Seriously nobody follows that stuff, back in August in Tirana it was ramazan and people were supposed to be fasting, but everyone was eating everywhere all the restaurants were full.

I'm sure all the carpet space behind her section has sold out in the Mosque.

Tirana is super commie as far as I know, so yeah

[Hurrem sultana]

Tirana is super commie as far as I know, so yeah


it was on the news the mosques and squares were full of people praying,their bajram is today :D

[morski]

it was on the news the mosques and squares were full of people praying,their bajram is today :D

Айде, честито!;) What are you going to sacrifice? A cow, camel, goat, sheep or ram? :)

[mysticism]

it was on the news the mosques and squares were full of people praying,their bajram is today :D

Allah Akbar baby! Albania's back on the path of truth and righteousness

Durka Durka Muhammed almighty, love ya man

[mysticism]

Айде, честито!;) What are you going to sacrifice? A cow, camel, goat, sheep or ram? :)

Dutch journalist?

[Aura]

I'm sure all the carpet space behind her section has sold out in the Mosque.

Tirana is super commie as far as I know, so yeah

that's not true,now we used to learn how to be religious after a long period being atheist country :)

[Hurrem sultana]

that's not true,now we used to learn how to be religious after a long period being atheist country :)

yeah islam is growing in influence in Albania

[Hurrem sultana]

Айде, честито!;) What are you going to sacrifice? A cow, camel, goat, sheep or ram? :)

chicken?:cool:

i fast,so i cant lie sorry:D...my family will sacrify a sheep btw

[Sultan Suleiman]

gdje to danas bajram namaz? gdje ces ga klanjati?:rolleyes:

Klanjao prije nekoliko sati sa svojom braćom :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

Klanjao prije nekoliko sati sa svojom braćom :thumb001:

a zasto cetvrtak,sta kaze alim hamzevijski?

[Sultan Suleiman]

Dutch journalist?

Oh you know me too well for your own good. :rolleyes:

[Sultan Suleiman]

a zasto cetvrtak,sta kaze alim hamzevijski?

Nakon diskusije naše dvije teokratske glave se dogovorile da su Turci upravu ovdje.

Ma svjedno mi iskreno, ionako u Petak koljem ovcu.

[morski]

http://novinite.bg/media/images/2011-11/photo_verybig_522.jpg

:)

[Hurrem sultana]

http://novinite.bg/media/images/2011-11/photo_verybig_522.jpg

:)

:thumb001:


it will feed many hungry families ;)

[aimar]

I have never heard that term before, thank god.
No muslims where I live :D

[morski]

http://www.viaranews.com/images/000001_NEWS/2011/07/126%20KURBAN.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

Nakon diskusije naše dvije teokratske glave se dogovorile da su Turci upravu ovdje.

Ma svjedno mi iskreno, ionako u Petak koljem ovcu.

ti koljes?

[Aura]

yeah islam is growing in influence in Albania

Islam wasn't influental for us when we were under otomans, so there is no chance to be influental now. compared with other balkans, for albanians religion was very strange!

[Sultan Suleiman]

ti koljes?

http://www.livno-online.com/resize.php?src=images/stories2/cetnik_noz.jpg&h=360&w=640&zc=1&q=100

[mysticism]

I have never heard that term before, thank god.
No muslims where I live :D

Be thankful!

6YQZYsPKuvg

Peace to all, and Eid mubarek All-son

[Flintlocke]

Islam wasn't influental for us when we were under otomans, so there is no chance to be influental now. compared with other balkans, for albanians religion was very strange!

True, religion is awkward. But lately people are returning to their old traditions, not so much for faith but for identity.

http://www.france24.com/en/20120810-kosovo-crypto-catholics-quit-closet

[Aura]

True, religion is awkward. But lately people are returning to their old traditions, not so much for faith but for identity.

http://www.france24.com/en/20120810-kosovo-crypto-catholics-quit-closet

I've heard that a lot of albanians in Kosovo reconvert into catholicism, thats what all albanians should do, back in their roots :) anyway religion doesn't divide us at all as a nation.

[Flintlocke]

That's why I said identity and not faith ;)

[Hurrem sultana]

lol you guys are just too funny :D

[Methmatician]

Why did Bosniaks change to Friday? If you're going to choose one day, why not choose the correct day.

[Hurrem sultana]

:D
Why did Bosniaks change to Friday? If you're going to choose one day, why not choose the correct day.

well you do realize they think that the correct day is friday :rolleyes:

[Flintlocke]

and you are silly :D

[morski]

and you are sexy:D

Fixed.:)

[Methmatician]

:D

well you do realize they think that the correct day is friday :rolleyes:

What makes Friday correct?

[Hurrem sultana]

Fixed.:)

:D

[Aura]

That's why I said identity and not faith ;)

well sometimes religion is part of the identity too, according to our balkan neighbours their religion is identity :)

[Hurrem sultana]

well sometimes religion is part of the identity too, according to our balkan neighbours their religion is identity :)

religion is part of identity for you too,you just tendv to deny it in these forums while reality is different

[Aura]

religion is part of identity for you too,you just tendv to deny it in these forums while reality is different

Our identity dear is based on other elements, religion elemen is seconday and not very important as it is at our orthodox neighbours..I dont have any kind of idea about bosnian identity, as far as I know sometimes you identify your nationality as muslim.

[Hurrem sultana]

Our identity dear is based on other elements, religion elemen is seconday and not very important as it is at our orthodox neighbours..I dont have any kind of idea about bosnian identity, as far as I know sometimes you identify your nationality as muslim.

then ask an average albanian muslim from Macedonia or Kosovo if he would mind his daughter vmarrying a catholic from Albania:rolleyes: macedonian albanians are even more religious than bosniaks

[safinator]

We got Orthodox roots mainly rather than Catholic.
We should restore back our cool Pagan Illyrian traditions.

[Leliana]

There's no 'bajram' in our country. We're European!

[Ushtari]

We got Orthodox roots mainly rather than Catholic.
Majority of us were catholics prior to ottoman conquest

[Adrian]

then ask an average albanian muslim from Macedonia or Kosovo if he would mind his daughter vmarrying a catholic from Albania:rolleyes: macedonian albanians are even more religious than bosniaks

I am from Kosova and you are wrong...


...as always. :rolleyes:

[Hurrem sultana]

There's no 'bajram' in our country. We're European!

turks wont agree:D

[Hurrem sultana]

I am from Kosova and you are wrong...


...as always. :rolleyes:

wishfull thinking my friend,i did not expect forum members here to say i am right:D

[Aura]

then ask an average albanian muslim from Macedonia or Kosovo if he would mind his daughter vmarrying a catholic from Albania:rolleyes: macedonian albanians are even more religious than bosniaks

Macedonian albanians represent les than 10% of albanian population, and in the center of Skopje is the statue of Scanderbeg and mother Theresa too,both catholics, so how than they identify themselves with those figures who fought against muslims?!

[Minesweeper]

Goat asked a goat; ''Do you believe in life after Bajram''?

[Aura]

Not Dibras.. and Skanderbeg was born Orthodox. I think majority of Kosovars were Orthodox (the ones who are muslim now)

Scanderbeg converts into catholic and dies like that, anyway I think he used that just for politics, and I guess we were more catholics than orthodoxs before the turks came!

[Adrian]

wishfull thinking my friend,i did not expect forum members here to say i am right:D

You are the most stubborn girl that I have ever met :bored:

[Hurrem sultana]

You are the most stubborn girl that I have ever met :bored:

:D

[Flintlocke]

religion is part of identity for you too,you just tendv to deny it in these forums while reality is different

Only you care about religion and observe these things, no one else here gives a fuck.

[Blackout]

Only you care about religion and observe these things, no one else here gives a fuck.

Not true! :wavey001:

[iNird]

Not sure, but I guess it's today. I got a few texts about it (even a few from my Catholic Albanian friends.)

[Su]

Kurban bayraminiz mubarek olsun.

@To all Muslims : Happy Kurban bayrami / Kurban bajram / Eid :)

[Su]

:picard1::D

Do you celebrate also Asure Gunu / Asure Day in Bosnia ? We do (at least Sunni Muslims I know , inclusive my family), we make asure and fast or just pray.

[Blackout]

Kurban bayraminiz mubarek olsun.

@To all Muslims : Happy Kurban bayrami / Kurban bajram / Eid :)

Khehyr Mubarek...:wavey001:

[Sultan Suleiman]

Sretan Blagdan :)

Tomorrow I start chopping Criterioh exs. (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7ZYqYi4xigk/Sfsj6VRePzI/AAAAAAAADsM/s9rdoy6ASS4/s400/Goats.JPG)

[Hurrem sultana]

Do you celebrate also Asure Gunu / Asure Day in Bosnia ? We do (at least Sunni Muslims I know , inclusive my family), we make asure and fast or just pray.

Yeah we have it too,ashure

[Hurrem sultana]

Sretan Blagdan :)

Tomorrow I start chopping Criterioh xs.

first tomorrow ;)

[Sultan Suleiman]

first tomorrow ;)

Yup, because I had college today :)

[Hurrem sultana]

Yup, because I had college today :)

So you would be the black sheep and go around today with the kurban?:D

[Sultan Suleiman]

first tomorrow ;)

And you Sunnis have a fucked up calendar. :thumb001:

[Su]

I dearly recommend for you guys to eat https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&sugexp=eaqth&tok=ERA2QZfJNlGvngT5-3I2Tw&cp=10&gs_id=14&xhr=t&q=iskender+kebab&safe=off&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bpcl=35466521&biw=1680&bih=906&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=HmiJUImwJcih0QW9zIHoDg to enjoy kurban bayrami to the maximum :cool:

[Sultan Suleiman]

So you would be the black sheep and go around today with the kurban?

I don't know how you do things up there, but no one here "goes around" with a Kurban. :rolleyes:

And I am off in a hour or two to get the skinning gear cleaned and ready-

[Hurrem sultana]

I don't know how you do things up there, but no one here "goes around" with a Kurban. :rolleyes:

And I am off in a hour or two to get the skinning gear cleaned and ready-

mislila sam dijelio bi kurbane po komsiluku danas,:picard1:

[Sultan Suleiman]

mislila sam dijelio bi kurbane po komsiluku danas,:picard1:

:picard2:

Pa rekao ti da koljem tek u Petak :rolleyes:

[Blackout]

I dearly recommend for you guys to eat https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&sugexp=eaqth&tok=ERA2QZfJNlGvngT5-3I2Tw&cp=10&gs_id=14&xhr=t&q=iskender+kebab&safe=off&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bpcl=35466521&biw=1680&bih=906&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=HmiJUImwJcih0QW9zIHoDg to enjoy kurban bayrami to the maximum :cool:

Looks tasty! :icon_wink:

[Blackout]

Sretan Blagdan :)

Tomorrow I start chopping Criterioh exs. (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7ZYqYi4xigk/Sfsj6VRePzI/AAAAAAAADsM/s9rdoy6ASS4/s400/Goats.JPG)

Khehyr Mubarek! :)


I don't know how you do things up there, but no one here "goes around" with a Kurban. :rolleyes:

And I am off in a hour or two to get the skinning gear cleaned and ready-

Are you going to do the sacrifice yourself? :)

[Hurrem sultana]

:picard2:

Pa rekao ti da koljem tek u Petak :rolleyes:

da ti nije fax danas,danas bi posto je tebe danas prvi dan bajrama:confused:

[Sultan Suleiman]

Are you going to do the sacrifice yourself? :)

I am ready...

[Sultan Suleiman]

da ti nije fax danas,danas bi posto je tebe danas prvi dan bajrama:confused:

Dat ću 2/3 mojeg kurbana javnoj kuhnji :P

[Hurrem sultana]

I am ready...

i am sure you are just going to watch in your odjelo

[Sultan Suleiman]

i am sure you are just going to watch in your odjelo

Jesi ti blesav stvor tako mi Boga :P

[Hurrem sultana]

Jesi ti blesav stvor tako mi Boga :P

sto bolan :confused:

[Sultan Suleiman]

sto bolan :confused:

Ma ništa, ja samo onako :rolleyes:

[Hurrem sultana]

Ma ništa, ja samo onako :rolleyes:

ne nerviraj me ovako uoci praznika:rolleyes:

[Sultan Suleiman]

ne nerviraj me ovako uoci praznika:rolleyes:

No sikiriki. :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

No sikiriki. :thumb001:

idi ba :rolleyes::D

[dralos]

all this chitchatting while we could have slaughtered thousands of sheeps
danm you all

[Hurrem sultana]

all this chitchatting while we could have slaughtered thousands of sheeps
danm you all

http://www.3ay.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/kurban-bayram%C4%B1.jpg

[dralos]

tomorrow i'm sending you as a present a whole new 2012 wardrobe,no more dresses of old ladies or pants for teenage girls,those times are over:D

[Mraz]

tomorrow i'm sending you as a present a whole new 2012 wardrobe,no more dresses of old ladies or pants for teenage girls,those times are over:D

Says the guy that wears flashy blue jackets :D

[Hurrem sultana]

his famous blue jacket :D

[iNird]

Says the guy that wears flashy blue jackets :D

Lulz

:lol00002:

[Onur]

I've heard that a lot of albanians in Kosovo reconvert into catholicism, thats what all albanians should do, back in their roots :)
What makes catholicism as your original faith?

The Pope converted some of you as catholics and the patriarch did same thing for orthodoxy and finally some became muslim during Otoman era. Neither of these beliefs was your roots at all.



We got Orthodox roots mainly rather than Catholic.

Scanderbeg converts into catholic and dies like that, anyway I think he used that just for politics, and I guess we were more catholics than orthodoxs before the turks came!
There was a lot of orthodox Albanians, more than the number of catholics and even equal numbers to muslim ones but majority of them became Greeks and they think like they are descendants of Sophocles nowadays. Thats why you think like catholicism was favored more than orthodoxy for Albanians but this wasn't the case.



What makes Friday correct?
The eyes of a stinky Bedouin in Mecca :)

[Hurrem sultana]

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406781_489426221090253_137059222_n.jpg

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/479924_505367846149419_1326965068_n.jpg

hehe

[mysticism]

^This is genocide!

;)

[Su]

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/479924_505367846149419_1326965068_n.jpg

hehe

Translation please :D

[Aura]

What makes catholicism as your original faith?

The Pope converted some of you as catholics and the patriarch did same thing for orthodoxy and finally some became muslim during Otoman era. Neither of these beliefs was your roots at all.




There was a lot of orthodox Albanians, more than the number of catholics and even equal numbers to muslim ones but majority of them became Greeks and they think like they are descendants of Sophocles nowadays. Thats why you think like catholicism was favored more than orthodoxy for Albanians but this wasn't the case.



The eyes of a stinky Bedouin in Mecca :)

Your informations are wrong. When the Christian church split in 1054 between the East and Rome,the region of southern Albania retained its ties to Constantinople while the north reverted to the jurisdiction of Rome.
Albania once numbered eighteen episcopal Sees, some of them having uninterrupted activity from the dawn of the Catholicism until today. The country was the last Roman Catholic bridgehead in the Balkans.
Orthodox historically constituted 20% of the population of Albania.

Tthe country was the last Roman Catholic bridgehead in the Balkans. Thats why we were forced to convert into islam...

[Sultan Suleiman]

Translation please :D

1st sheep: Where are you going for Bajram?

2nd sheep: A bit here and a bit there :D

[Sultan Suleiman]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/391631_4451074206762_1083045784_n.jpg

[Aura]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/391631_4451074206762_1083045784_n.jpg

hahhhh poor baby :D :D this was funny!

[el22]

Orthodox historically constituted 20% of the population of Albania.


Historically... since when?



Tthe country was the last Roman Catholic bridgehead in the Balkans. Thats why we were forced to convert into islam...

You mean that Turks forced us more than anyone else? because we were the last Roman Catholic bridgehead?

I don't think this is what happened

[Onur]

You mean that Turks forced us more than anyone else? because we were the last Roman Catholic bridgehead?

I don't think this is what happened
Yeah, this is not what happened at all.

And she is bragging about being a proxy group in Balkans for Vatican, thats really absurd :)

Anyway, we are sure about one thing;
Today`s central to southern Greece was full with orthodox Albanians and all of them hellenized, 100.000s of them. They were surely more populated than Catholic Albanians.

[dralos]

his famous blue jacket :D
blue jacket is legendary,you all remember it,thats his effect,you cant shake it off:D

[Aura]

Historically... since when?



You mean that Turks forced us more than anyone else? because we were the last Roman Catholic bridgehead?

I don't think this is what happened

logically it goes back after 1052 when the christianity split into catholicism and orthodoxism, so the north part was under the western church and the south part under the east church, I hope u have seen that border in the map.

Instead just saying 'I dont think this is what happened' bring than your argument if u have one?!

most of scholars support that it was the most important element of our convertion, and is logically based, cuz west was in war with otomans, so should the otomans be comfortable with this bridgehead inside the empire? with all that bad experience with Scanderbeg? of course not :)

those catholics who didnt want to convert into islam were allowed to choose between islam and orthodoxy, so a lot of Catholics converted into orthodoxy and than got assimilated like in Kosovo, Montenegro and Greece! I think this need special thread.

[el22]

logically it goes back after 1052 when the christianity split into catholicism and orthodoxism, so the north part was under the western church and the south part under the east church, I hope u have seen that border in the map.

My question was 'since when orthodox were only 20%'. You know, Skanderbeg was orthodox and his family (and relatives) too


Instead just saying 'I dont think this is what happened' bring than your argument if u have one?!

most of scholars support that it was the most important element of our convertion, and is logically based, cuz west was in war with otomans, so should the otomans be comfortable with this bridgehead inside the empire? with all that bad experience with Scanderbeg? of course not :)

I posted something here

...

[Aura]

My question was 'since when orthodox were only 20%'. You know, Skanderbeg was orthodox and his family (and relatives) too



I posted something here

"The appeal of islam to the soldierly albanian" i dont agree at all with this conclusion so im going to respond u here, I read moslty of the text and it explains mostly the situation in 18 century Albania. I agree with some points there about certain albanian groups who wanted to gain their individual achivments in the empire so they converted into islam.
My point is that albanian case as catholics was very different from other orthodoxs nations in Balkans, and they were forced to convert in different ways, thats why a lot of Arbereshes left Albania for Italy, cuz they didnt want to convert into islam. Accepting the idea that albanians voluntary converted into islam with out any kind of pressure is very silly!
Scanderbeg converts into Catholicism till the end of his life, maybe it was political, cuz of his strategy with the west!

[el22]

All countries around us are orthodox, as were most of the Albanians. Catholics were a minority, so there was nothing special about our religion from Turk's point of view.

The reason why our ancestors converted to Islam was because they were smart. Instead of "owning" a religion, they decided to own wealth. That's it.

[Grizzly]

All countries around us are orthodox, as were most of the Albanians. Catholics were a minority, so there was nothing special about our religion from Turk's point of view.

The reason why our ancestors converted to Islam was because they were smart. Instead of "owning" a religion, they decided to own wealth. That's it.

Not really. Alot were forced into converting into Islam. There are numerous of witness accounts of Turks blazing christian villages to make an example of. But religion is just religion. I'd rather have people convert instead of getting their heads chopped off for not converting.

Not to mention Albanians didn't own any wealth at all, poverty was rampant..

[ChocolateFace]

Gezuar Bajramit

Happy Bajram to everybody.

The Albanians In America celebrated it on thursday.

[el22]

Not really. Alot were forced into converting into Islam. There are numerous of witness accounts of Turks blazing christian villages to make an example of. But religion is just religion. I'd rather have people convert instead of getting their heads chopped off for not converting.

Not to mention Albanians didn't own any wealth at all, poverty was rampant..

Numerous witness accounts of forced conversion doesn't explain the fact that a large percent of Albanians converted, but didn't happened the same thing with other countries. What makes you think that Turks treated us differently?

About the wealth/poverty... well I didn't live back then, but in the descriptions of several travelers Albanians were armed to teeth with guns adorned with golds & silver. There are also pictures that portray them this way.

[Hurrem sultana]

Happy Bajram to all muslims here ;) :)

[Methmatician]

You mean that Turks forced us more than anyone else? because we were the last Roman Catholic bridgehead?

I don't think this is what happened

I don't think they were forced, but I did hear they were more pressured by the Turks to convert because they believed that Venice would try and free the Catholics in Albania

[Blackout]

Gezuar Bajramit

Happy Bahram to everybody.

The Albanians In America celebrated it on thursday.


Happy Bajram to all muslims here ;) :)

Khehyr Mubarek!

May you all be blessed in this life, and the next (Ameen).

I'm off to join in the prayers now... :)

[Hurrem sultana]

Does anyone want some baklavA? :D

http://static.klix.ba/media/images/vijesti/b_121025133.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

http://static01.avaz.ba/assets/image_cache/690/420/0/assets/uploads/galerije/normal/11252/AMR09_SAUDI-HAJ-ISLAM-_1026_11.JPG

http://static02.avaz.ba/assets/image_cache/690/420/0/assets/uploads/galerije/normal/11252/BIS01_KYRGYZSTAN-_1026_11.JPG

http://static03.avaz.ba/assets/image_cache/690/420/0/assets/uploads/galerije/normal/11252/AMR005_SAUDI-HAJ-ISLAM_1026_11.JPG

[MfA_]

who can resist such gooey goodness as homemade baklava :D

you guys prefer baklava with walnut, hazelnut or peanut? my personal favourite is with walnut esp the ones brought from the village :)

[Hurrem sultana]

who can resist such gooey goodness as homemade baklava :D

you guys prefer baklava with walnut, hazelnut or peanut? my personal favourite is with walnut esp the ones brought from the village :)

I only know about baklava with walnut,then we also have a pie with plums that we call "greek baklava",but it is not real baklava :D

[Blackout]

I missed the prayer, wrong time! Went to a few other mosques but they had finished the prayers by 10am. In the end i just went back home and prayed. Maybe tommorow I can join in... :)

[Hurrem sultana]

I missed the prayer, wrong time! Went to a few other mosques but they had finished the prayers by 10am. In the end i just went back home and prayed. Maybe tommorow I can join in... :)

man :( you can pray with pakistanis,tomorrow is bajram for them:D

[Blackout]

Does anyone want some baklavA? :D

http://static.klix.ba/media/images/vijesti/b_121025133.jpg

Why not! Does it contain meat? :)

[Hurrem sultana]

Why not! Does it contain meat? :)

no it is a cake,it is traditional bosniak sweet made during bajram :)

walnuts and sugar

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EOEq2R7v56Q/UDFQU9pzQHI/AAAAAAAAIyI/YUBrYqR1n9E/s1600/baklava.jpg

[Blackout]

man :( you can pray with pakistanis,tomorrow is bajram for them:D

Haha I suppose! But still, what a shame... :picard1:

[Blackout]

no it is a cake,it is traditional bosniak sweet made during bajram :)

walnuts and sugar

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EOEq2R7v56Q/UDFQU9pzQHI/AAAAAAAAIyI/YUBrYqR1n9E/s1600/baklava.jpg

Looks tasty! What else will you be having today? :)

[Hurrem sultana]

tulumbe are my favorite

http://www.zalogaj.com/wp-content/uploads/tulumbe.jpg

where do you come from btw?

[Blackout]

tulumbe are my favorite

http://www.zalogaj.com/wp-content/uploads/tulumbe.jpg

where do you come from btw?

Delicious! But anything savoury aswell? :)

Im from somewhere near here:

http://s12.postimage.org/44ci2su6l/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
upload (http://postimage.org/)

[Blackout]

who can resist such gooey goodness as homemade baklava :D

you guys prefer baklava with walnut, hazelnut or peanut? my personal favourite is with walnut esp the ones brought from the village :)

What else are your going to have? :)

[MfA_]

What else are your going to have? :)

Kavurma, this one is the first meat of kurban.. at dinners with big tables relatives gathers together :)

https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=kavurma&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:tr:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=tr&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=r3WKUIbrN4nvsgbjxICQCg&biw=1514&bih=972&sei=s3WKUMCUJ4qLhQfuioHoDA

[Hurrem sultana]

http://www.yemekvetarifi.com/wp-content/uploads/sarma.jpg

http://www.gastronomija.info/fotoalbum/slike/1274819558_3.jpg

[Blackout]

Kavurma, this one is the first meat of kurban.. at dinners with big tables relatives gathers together :)

https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=kavurma&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:tr:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=tr&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=r3WKUIbrN4nvsgbjxICQCg&biw=1514&bih=972&sei=s3WKUMCUJ4qLhQfuioHoDA

Sounds great!

I had a 'mushroom' sandwich just now. Basically you slice raw mushrooms and put them in between two pieces of bread. If your feeling slightly on the edge you can add some 'ketchup'! :)

[memobekes]

I can't stand sarma - last had it 15 years ago at a party but threw up, sorry.

And tulumba is just far too sugary and hard, you should swap that for kurabiye or pişmaniye (melts in your mouth). Such good stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qurabiya

http://www.turkishcuisine.eu/turkish-specialties/Cotton%20Candy,%20Pismaniye.JPG

[Blackout]

I can't stand sarma - last had it 15 years ago at a party but threw up, sorry.

And tulumba is just far too sugary and hard, you should swap that for kurabiye or pişmaniye (melts in your mouth). Such good stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qurabiya

http://www.turkishcuisine.eu/turkish-specialties/Cotton%20Candy,%20Pismaniye.JPG

Wow! What is that? :)

[memobekes]

Wow! What is that? :)

A Turkish dessert/sweet consisting of flour, vanilla and sugar.

You should try it, you won't regret it. :D

[MfA_]

^^ to easier imagine for you, think it's somekind of powdered sugar but it's much much better :)

there is also it's cousin ''saray helvası'', i like it with chocolate covered.. it's nothing like traditional halva :)

https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=saray+helvas%C4%B1&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:tr:official&client=firefox-a&channel=np&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=tr&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=cHuKUMmHNonOsgaN-IGgBw&biw=1514&bih=972&sei=c3uKUJihHorLhAeUroHICA

[Hurrem sultana]

not my style,i prefer baklava :D

[MfA_]

not my style,i prefer baklava :D

there is kinds for everyones taste :) i cant choose one over another :D

[memobekes]

not my style,i prefer baklava :D

Come on, baklava is too "conventional" so to speak, you need to break the mould a bit. :D

There's so many types of sweets to choose from in the Turkish kitchen, that you are spoilt for choice.

[Blackout]

A Turkish dessert/sweet consisting of flour, vanilla and sugar.

You should try it, you won't regret it. :D

I'm sure I won't regret it! :rofl_002:

I rarely try new things. I do enjoy reading what other people have though! :)

[Mraz]

Bajram bajric to you all :)

[Farah]

I had no idea Bajram meant Eid, I thought everyone uses the latter word..Today is the first day for us, although there is not much of a celebratory atmosphere. :( Happy Eid!

[Hurrem sultana]

I had no idea Bajram meant Eid, I thought everyone uses the latter word..Today is the first day for us, although there is not much of a celebratory atmosphere. :( Happy Eid!

Never heard about "eid" in Bosnia :)

[Hurrem sultana]

Come on, baklava is too "conventional" so to speak, you need to break the mould a bit. :D

There's so many types of sweets to choose from in the Turkish kitchen, that you are spoilt for choice.

I guess so but i like it :D i cant imagine bajram with no baklava,it is deep rooted in our tradition:D

[Hurrem sultana]

http://static.klix.ba/media/images/vijesti/121026012.25_xl.jpg

[MfA_]

lol this one is bayram classic:D

see @01:00

-JYSJPxTJhM

[Hurrem sultana]

lool and then they call the police :D


that is why you slaughter sheeps only :D

[ficuscarica]

Hi everyone! :D

[Hurrem sultana]

oh no ficus is here :D

[ficuscarica]

oh no ficus is here :D

You knew you couldn´t hide this thread from me forever. :D

http://www.storchenfischer.de/assets/images/Spanferkel.jpg

[dralos]

bosnian i'm beginning to think after making a couple of trolling threads about Islam that you mayby are a croat or serb pretending to be a bosniak
and that the only true bosniak here is mraz and just mayby vanguard
and dado the bosniak rambo

[Hurrem sultana]

bosnian i'm beginning to think after making a couple of trolling threads about Islam that you mayby are a croat or serb pretending to be a bosniak
and that the only true bosniak here is mraz and just mayby vanguard
and dado the bosniak rambo

vrhbosnian is a croat too,if i am going down he is going with me:mad:

[Blackout]

Bajram bajric to you all :)


I had no idea Bajram meant Eid, I thought everyone uses the latter word..Today is the first day for us, although there is not much of a celebratory atmosphere. :( Happy Eid!

Khehyr Mubarek. :)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OQA5kH1hqTw/TpX-m7fdIII/AAAAAAAABFs/lGtNhKWYe4M/s1600/three-toed-sloth-with-child.jpg

[dralos]

anyway he doesnt make these threads while you do,so you're the problem
and thats why you post picz where you're dress very bad to give bad image about bosniak women,this is really sick

[Mortimer]

happy bajram feast. eid mubarak

[Hurrem sultana]

the weirdest word for bajram is "tabaski" wich is the word nigerians use :D

[Blackout]

happy bajram feast. eid mubarak

Khehyr Mubarek. :)

http://images.wikia.com/twilightsaga/images/c/ce/THANKS.gif

[Farah]

Never heard about "eid" in Bosnia :)

It's the original Arabic word for it. :) I honestly did not know there were so many other name variations for it, I assumed it was a universally used word.

[Pecheneg]

rice with kavurma meat. This is what "bajram" means to me :D
http://i46.tinypic.com/1p9q10.png

[The Lawspeaker]

I saw one of my school mates walk in today wearing what looked like a well-decorated djellaba - underneath it he seemed to be wearing a formal shirt and trousers. It's not a custom here (this is not an Islamic country - naturally) but he is an immigrant so we were making jokes about it: "... and there is the padre. Who is going to need his last rites ?"

[Blackout]

I saw one of my school mates walk in today wearing what looked like a well-decorated djellaba - underneath it he seemed to be wearing a formal shirt and trousers. It's not a custom here (this is not an Islamic country - naturally) but he is an immigrant so we were making jokes about it: "... and there is the padre. Who is going to need his last rites ?"

Haha! There is one type of dress the guys wear, which reminds me of the old sleeping suits people used to go to sleep in.

http://qisforquilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/MG-Wee-Willie-Winkie.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

haha :D

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

It's the original Arabic word for it. :) I honestly did not know there were so many other name variations for it, I assumed it was a universally used word.

I never heard eid..learned from forums recently.
It has been bayram from the beginning.

[Alboz]

Happy eid to all.

FKV2oeS4vw8

[Sultan Suleiman]

I killed 2 sheep and a goat today.

Slightly ruined the pelts of the goat and one sheep, but the meat is okay and I am turning my 1/6 of Kurban into ćevapi meat :D

[Hurrem sultana]

I killed 2 sheep and a goat today.

Slightly ruined the pelts of the goat and one sheep, but the meat is okay and I am turning my 1/6 of Kurban into ćevapi meat :D

you only got 1/6?

[Sultan Suleiman]

you only got 1/6?

Because I shared my sacrifice with someone else.

[Hurrem sultana]

Because I shared my sacrifice with someone else.

pa koliko vas to hamzi ima?:eek::D

[Sultan Suleiman]

pa koliko vas to hamzi ima?:eek::D

Enough ;)

[Hurrem sultana]

Enough ;)

or rather you give your sacrifice to "balije" too:)

[dralos]

bosnian how do you feel when you make trollthread about religious holiday?

[Sultan Suleiman]

or rather you give your sacrifice to "balije" too:)

I gave most of my Kurban to the public kitchen. They decide to whom it goes :thumb001:

[Methmatician]

I gave most of my Kurban to the public kitchen.

That's the spirit :thumb001:

[Adrian]

rice with kavurma meat. This is what "bajram" means to me :D
http://i46.tinypic.com/1p9q10.png

Same here...

+ cold beer :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

I gave most of my Kurban to the public kitchen. They decide to whom it goes :thumb001:

:thumb001:

[Aura]

fight for your life baby!
http://imgur.com/i6Ik4

[The Lawspeaker]

fight for your life baby!
http://imgur.com/i6Ik4

That one doesn't go "als een lam ter slachting"* - instead he takes the fight to his murderers ! :thumb001:

(Dutch expression. Comes from the Bible: it means "going to the slaughter like a lam" - going quietely into the night).

[Sultan Suleiman]

That one doesn't go "als een lam ter slachting"* - instead he takes the fight to his murderers ! :thumb001:

(Dutch expression. Comes from the Bible: it means "going to the slaughter like a a lam" - he is not going quietely into the night).

Or we might actually be observing the beginnings of a goat-on-an rape

[Aura]

I'ts very ridiculous how people can belive that God is going to be happy sacrificing his good creatures for him!

[Hurrem sultana]

I'ts very ridiculous how people can belive that God is going to be happy sacrificing his good creatures for him!

so you are vegetarian?

[Aura]

so you are vegetarian?

it was about what u belive..
Im not vegetarian but I dont consume red meat...

[dralos]

aura show your danm pic now:D

[Hurrem sultana]

it was about what u belive..
Im not vegetarian but I dont consume red meat...

well its not about killing the animal but feeding the poor with the sacrifice in the name of God

So pure nonsense to say anything against kurban,while eating meat yourself

[dralos]

she is from tirana so very sophisticated girl:D

[Hurrem sultana]

she is from tirana so very sophisticated girl:D

Tirana is sophisticated only for Kosovo standards:)

[Aura]

well its not about killing the animal but feeding the poor with the sacrifice in the name of God

So pure nonsense to say anything against kurban,while eating meat yourself

feeding the poor?! lol thats the biggest illusion and Im against that idea, cuz that social care most go through institutons. It was ok in the past when people didnt have the idea about state and government.
I repeat for second time, its strange that people belive the idea of killing animals for God, this is very pagan and primitive.

@Dralos u better be a good boy as u are in real lol

[Aura]

Tirana is sophisticated only for Kosovo standards:)

im sure that its 100 times more sophisticated than Bosna too, our cultural life is for sure above many other capitals in Balkans..

[Hurrem sultana]

feeding the poor?! lol thats the biggest illusion and Im against that idea, cuz that social care most go through institutons. It was ok in the past when people didnt have the idea about state and government.
I repeat for second time, its strange that people belive the idea of killing animals for God, this is very pagan and primitive.

@Dralos u better be a good boy as u are in real lol

Tell that to all the public kitchens,homes for orphans etc.i dont know how you do it in Albania,but in Bosnia it is organized not primitive

We survived by killing animals my friend,life is not so ideal and sophisticated ,rather very primitive ;)

[Hurrem sultana]

im sure that its 100 times more sophisticated than Bosna too, our cultural life is for sure above many other capitals in Balkans..

you are famous for being Paris of Balkans:D:picard1:

[ficuscarica]

Kurban is korban in Hebrew, means sacrifice, too... but these sacrifices are meant to bring forgiveness of sins. Doesn´t the kurban in islam have the same meaning?

[Methmatician]

It was ok in the past when people didnt have the idea about state and government.

Yeah, that's kinda the point; Bajram is not a modern creation :rolleyes:


I repeat for second time, its strange that people belive the idea of killing animals for God, this is very pagan and primitive.

That's because it is Pagan and primitive. It's religion, of course it's going to have pagan and primitive rituals. You're Catholic, you should be familiar with this.

[Hurrem sultana]

Kurban is korban in Hebrew, means sacrifice, too... but these sacrifices are meant to bring forgiveness of sins. Doesn´t the kurban in islam have the same meaning?

Yes it is and it is not "primitive" as aura says

Allah says in the Qur'aan: 'It is not their flesh nor their blood that reaches Allah; it is your piety that reaches him.' 22:37

[Flintlocke]

Hail Ratko Mladic hero!

[Hurrem sultana]

Hail Ratko Mladic hero!

you are orthodox so i understand your hidden love for serbian orthodox criminals

[Flintlocke]

nah I don't believe in that shit, but wholesale killing of animals for useless rednecks to eat makes me very angry.

[Onur]

Kurban is korban in Hebrew, means sacrifice, too... but these sacrifices are meant to bring forgiveness of sins. Doesn´t the kurban in islam have the same meaning?
These are semitic religions and semitic languages. Ofc the Arabic word has been adopted from Hebrew. I gave the most extreme example of that before. The word "Allah" is originally an Aramaic word and Jesus himself was calling God as Allah because he was speaking Aramaic. Then Jews adopted that word and used it as Eloah and finally Arabs as Allah.

I hope your theology study in Israel opens your eyes, so you can realize that all three semitic religions of judaism, christianity and islam are same in most areas.


it is not "primitive" as aura says
Bosnian, yes it is a pagan tradition and primitive.

[Aura]

Yeah, that's kinda the point; Bajram is not a modern creation :rolleyes:



That's because it is Pagan and primitive. It's religion, of course it's going to have pagan and primitive rituals. You're Catholic, you should be familiar with this.

I respect my religiion as our family tradition and culture, nothing more!

[Hurrem sultana]

I respect my religiion as our family tradition and culture, nothing more!

Cool,so why dont you respect that others here feels the same about their religion?

[Aura]

Cool,so why dont you respect that others here feels the same about their religion?

I totally respect your choice what u want to believe, but Im open to discuss it catholic or islam doesn't matter, its allowed to critisize it..

[ficuscarica]

These are semitic religions and semitic languages. Ofc the Arabic word has been adopted from Hebrew. I gave the most extreme example of that before. The word "Allah" is originally an Aramaic word and Jesus himself was calling God as Allah because he was speaking Aramaic. Then Jews adopted that word and used it as Eloah and finally Arabs as Allah.

I hope your theology study in Israel opens your eyes, so you can realize that all three semitic religions of judaism, christianity and islam are same in most areas.


Bosnian, yes it is a pagan tradition and primitive.

Of course there are similarities, but also significant differences. Anyway, I will most certainly understand more after my studies here in Jerusalem.

[Hurrem sultana]

Since when are you in Jerusalem? how do you like it there?

[ficuscarica]

Since when are you in Jerusalem? how do you like it there?

I´ve been here for a bit more than a week now. I´ll stay for two years and do my master´s degree in theology, specialization in New Testament and Early Christianity. It´s an interesting city and not bad at all. It´s pretty relaxed actually. I met some interesting people.
There are just some Arab neighbourhoods one should avoid, when there´s the potential of being mistaken as Jew or maybe American. But apart from that it is pretty normal.

[Aura]

I´ve been here for a bit more than a week now. I´ll stay for two years and do my master´s degree in theology, specialization in New Testament and Early Christianity. It´s an interesting city and not bad at all. It´s pretty relaxed actually. I met some interesting people.
There are just some Arab neighbourhoods one should avoid, when there´s the potential of being mistaken as Jew or maybe American. But apart from that it is pretty normal.

whats their reaction for u as a german?

[ficuscarica]

whats their reaction for u as a german?

Well, I speak Hebrew/English and people take me for a local usually.

Yesterday I was invited to a party where there were some Israeli Jews and we made a round where everyone introduced himself and said where he´s from, but their reaction was positive. One guy was actually learning German and wanted to speak German with me.
I would guess that the reactions are mostly neutral, sometimes positive, and rarely negative.

[Sultan Suleiman]

I'ts very ridiculous how people can belive that God is going to be happy sacrificing his good creatures for him!

It is celebrating God's mercy by honoring the intervention of God, when He stopped the sacrifice of Ismail by Abraham.

[ficuscarica]

It is celebrating God's mercy by honoring the intervention of God, when He stopped the sacrifice of Ismail by Abraham.

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[Sultan Suleiman]

feeding the poor?! lol thats the biggest illusion and Im against that idea, cuz that social care most go through institutons.

Honey if you ever experienced the Balkanian "social care" you would never write that BS.

In Albania (and Kosovo) most public kitchens operate only thanks to donations (which spike during Ramadan and Bajram) which constitute nearly half of their budget.