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Mortimer
10-26-2012, 04:39 AM
I have a high west asian component, a southwestasian component and even a bit of african (but less then 1%)=ARAB or Jew. I had the symbol that Im jew but the low declared probably hints to that my mum is Arab. On all admixture runs I vary southasian from 10% to 14% which equals only 1/8 Gypsy Roma and that makes sense only if I have it from my dad because he is 1/4 Gypsy Roma (his grandmother) and that would make me 1/8 via his lineage. My Mums Dad always said we are arabs. I thought he is stupid and just say it because he is drunk, but it could be truth. We will see if the new ancestry painting from 23andme will confirm.

MDLP World 22 (Are those the Results of a Half Arab or Jew)?

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 18.58%
North-European-Mesolithic 0.82%
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican 0.44%
Arctic-Amerind -
South-America_Amerind 0.35%
Indian 11.36%
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.37%
Samoedic 1.01%
Indo-Iranian 1.48%
East-Siberean 0.18%
North-East-European 27.39%
South-African 0.37%
North-Amerind -
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian 1.32%
Near_East 9.55%
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian 0.75%

In my countries listed I have Romania (which i know is from my dad) and Greece (could be my mum a arab from greece?)

Discuss!

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 06:52 AM
bump

Tabiti
10-26-2012, 07:20 AM
Why do many gypsies say they're something else?

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 07:41 AM
Why do many gypsies say they're something else?

gypsie is no race, ethnicity or religion (US Census Bureau). Never have been, Never will be.

Talvi
10-26-2012, 07:57 AM
gypsie is no race, ethnicity or religion (US Census Bureau). Never have been, Never will be.

Really? So why do they have their own language and a certain look. I have no problem finding a gypsy in the crowd.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 08:08 AM
Really? So why do they have their own language and a certain look. I have no problem finding a gypsy in the crowd.

you can find him only in the crowd of white and pale people not in the crowd of brown people. and my ancestors dont speak the gypsy langauge, they distinguished themselfes from the "cergari" by langauge, by customs etc.

finşaų
10-26-2012, 08:08 AM
gypsie is no race, ethnicity or religion (US Census Bureau). Never have been, Never will be.

Well, IM, the US Census Bureau does not decide what constitutes an ethnicity or a race.

However, I am almost certain that quite a few purported "Gypsies" are in reality socially ostracized people/vagabonds of different backgrounds who were upon their exclusion from mainstream society absorbed or culturally influenced/assimilated by the group that has built a "successful" intra-society within it; the Gypsies. This seems to have been the case in Scandinavia, for example.

Lithium
10-26-2012, 08:09 AM
You deny your own roots, whatever they are they are yours and you should hail them.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 08:10 AM
You deny your own roots, whatever they are they are yours and you should hail them.

I dont deny my roots, i try to find them.:picard1:

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 08:13 AM
look what I wrote into the chatbox http://www.theapricity.com/forum/misc.php?do=ccarc&page=2

Talvi
10-26-2012, 08:20 AM
I dont deny my roots, i try to find them.:picard1:

Considering your recent posts you are obsessed with getting away from your roots and desperately trying to find something European.

To be honest I would not see you as a turk, arab or anything else "brown and nonwhite". I dont see you fitting in in any European population as a native either. Its time for you to face that truth! And the only place where you would be considered "white" is in your dreams.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 08:24 AM
Considering your recent posts you are obsessed with getting away from your roots and desperately trying to find something European.

How so? I really dont see it or are you just "evil"?



To be honest I would not see you as a turk, arab or anything else "brown and nonwhite". I dont see you fitting in in any European population as a native either. Its time for you to face that truth!

Turks are not brown and non-white, you as a girl who had "experiences" with turks should know that well.

finşaų
10-26-2012, 08:28 AM
Can't we just agree to the fact that no population is objectively "white" or "non-white"?

Talvi
10-26-2012, 08:30 AM
How so? I really dont see it or are you just "evil"?



Turks are not brown and non-white, you as a girl who had "experiences" with turks should know that well.

1. How so? How so? Dont you remember making 74832749723 about your skin colour or hair colour or eye colour desperately trying not to be brown? And recently about your ridiculous book idea or personality? Trying to be somekind of a vikingrusse or whatever. Its time for you to accept that its not always about "haters gonna hate", sometimes people actually are incredibly ridiculous!

2. Turks are not brown, and they are non-white. It is also fairly easy to tell that they are Turks!! And you dont look like one. You dont look like anyone who is not brown and non-white. Why? Because you are brown and non-white and you look like it.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 08:33 AM
1. How so? How so? Dont you remember making 74832749723 about your skin colour or hair colour or eye colour desperately trying not to be brown? And recently about your ridiculous book idea or personality? Trying to be somekind of a vikingrusse or whatever. Its time for you to accept that its not always about "haters gonna hate", sometimes people actually are incredibly ridiculous!

2. Turks are not brown, and they are non-white. It is also fairly easy to tell that they are Turks!! And you dont look like one. You dont look like anyone who is not brown and non-white. Why? Because you are brown and non-white and you look like it.

lol, ok girl, whatever floats your boat. :)

ficuscarica
10-26-2012, 08:58 AM
On some pics your mother indeed looks Middle Eastern or like a Mizrahi Jew.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 09:27 AM
grandmother, grandfather,

morski
10-26-2012, 09:58 AM
So, you are an Egyptian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkali_and_Egyptians)then.?

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 10:02 AM
So, you are an Egyptian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkali_and_Egyptians)then.?

I dont know what they are genetically, but they consider themselfes Arabs and they speak albanian. We speak Serbian and are not from Kosovo.

only1
10-26-2012, 10:04 AM
gypsie is no race, ethnicity or religion (US Census Bureau). Never have been, Never will be.

It is a race of Hindu idolators. Brothers to the blacks, of the lineage of Kham. You are not Semitic.

finşaų
10-26-2012, 10:14 AM
It is a race of Hindu idolators. Brothers to the blacks, of the lineage of Kham. You are not Semitic.

Yes, you asserting that sure makes it so. :rolleyes:

only1
10-26-2012, 10:48 AM
It is not me. Read alTabari, where he traced each people to his ancestor. The Indians are listed with the africans as the descendant of Kush and Kanaan, the children of Kham, cursed be he and all his lineage of idolators. Besides you don't have to be a genius to know Blacks and Indians are related. Both are easily reduced to slavery, both are almost the only peoples to stick to their idolatry, both have bad hygiene, both are black beyond human standards.

finşaų
10-26-2012, 10:50 AM
It is not me. Read alTabari, where he traced each people to his ancestor. The Indians are listed with the africans as the descendant of Kush and Kanaan, the children of Kham, cursed be he and all his lineage of idolators. Besides you don't have to be a genius to know Blacks and Indians are related. Both are easily reduced to slavery, both are almost the only peoples to stick to their idolatry, both have bad hygiene, both are black beyond human standards.

I am sorry, but religious mumbo-jumbo does not qualify for science in the material sense. We are discussing genetics and anthropology here.

morski
10-26-2012, 11:04 AM
I dont know what they are genetically, but they consider themselfes Arabs and they speak albanian. We speak Serbian and are not from Kosovo.

Well, from this thread I gather you decided you are Arabic now, so?

Madonna
10-26-2012, 11:26 AM
beside being Serb what will satisfy you ?

Corvus
10-26-2012, 11:45 AM
beside being Serb what will satisfy you ?

Being nordic

purple
10-26-2012, 11:52 AM
More likely you're just a Gypo. Get over it now.

Madonna
10-26-2012, 11:59 AM
nordic?
nationality I thought more

Madonna
10-26-2012, 12:00 PM
what about east turkey? can he pass?

Corvus
10-26-2012, 12:01 PM
nordic?
nationality I thought more

Everyone wants to be as Nordic as possible and IM is no exception.

ficuscarica
10-26-2012, 12:01 PM
Another first class thread by IM. This man is a legend.

Madonna
10-26-2012, 12:05 PM
you mean men want to be? :)

Corvus
10-26-2012, 12:06 PM
you mean men want to be? :)

Comon madam, this is not a gender issue, everyone wants to be Nordish
irrespective of sex

Madonna
10-26-2012, 12:09 PM
I dont want to be :P

Mans not hot
10-26-2012, 12:12 PM
http://dontdrinkbeer.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/1595201-oh_look_its_this_thread_again_super.jpg

Germanicus
10-26-2012, 12:46 PM
Why do many gypsies say they're something else?

I have a picture of you and your brother when you were both very young, your father and mother on both sides, of you both.
Your mother in the picture looks typically Indian, why try to say she is anything other than Indian/ gypsy ?
I could repost the picture to make my point?

finşaų
10-26-2012, 12:48 PM
There will be no reposting of images.

ariaka
10-26-2012, 01:03 PM
@Inquiring Mind

How did you end up with meso-American DNA?

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 02:17 PM
@Inquiring Mind

How did you end up with meso-American DNA?

probably its just noise. its in the noise range.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 02:22 PM
It is not me. Read alTabari, where he traced each people to his ancestor. The Indians are listed with the africans as the descendant of Kush and Kanaan, the children of Kham, cursed be he and all his lineage of idolators. Besides you don't have to be a genius to know Blacks and Indians are related. Both are easily reduced to slavery, both are almost the only peoples to stick to their idolatry, both have bad hygiene, both are black beyond human standards.

my late grandparents (RIP) were never "black beyond human standards" more like reddish brown with caucasoid facial features




as for idolators, i respect positive paganism and also hinduism eventhough im christian

Anatolian Eagle
10-26-2012, 02:25 PM
When you said you might have 0.00000000000000001% Jewish ancestry you became "Ultra Jewish Nationalist" and a Israeli Defense Soldier. Now I see you're doing the same thing with Arabs as you have Arab League website in your signature and "White Arab Power" (wtf is that?) as user title so here let me help you with choice of avatar for your new identity:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Flag_of_Jihad.svg/320px-Flag_of_Jihad.svg.png

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 02:29 PM
When you said you might have 0.00000000000000001% Jewish ancestry you became "Ultra Jewish Nationalist" and a Israeli Defense Soldier. Now I see you're doing the same thing with Arabs as you have Arab League website in your signature and "White Arab Power" (wtf is that?) as user title so here let me help you with choice of avatar for your new identity:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Flag_of_Jihad.svg/320px-Flag_of_Jihad.svg.png

pitty i dont understand arabic. whats the writting?
i dont know if my conclusion is true, i hope 23andme new ancestry painting will clarify....:)

Matritensis
10-26-2012, 02:34 PM
Everyone wants to be as Nordic as possible and IM is no exception.


I know many people who don't.Besides,whatever anybody wants to be biologically wise after being born is completely irrelevant,and worrying about it completely stupid.

Vojnik
10-26-2012, 02:39 PM
IM, how much money have you spent on these tests? If you don't mind me asking.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 02:42 PM
IM, how much money have you spent on these tests? If you don't mind me asking.

i dont mind asking but i hope you wont mind if i dont tell the price for the test. alot of stuff is also free once you have your raw data. lets say it was expensive and i expect nothing less then the correct truth.

Vojnik
10-26-2012, 02:48 PM
i dont mind asking but i hope you wont mind if i dont tell the price for the test. alot of stuff is also free once you have your raw data. lets say it was expensive and i expect nothing less then the correct truth.

Chuvaj si parite. If you are going to spend your money, spend it on something that will make you happy, not on something that is clearly stressing you out.

morski
10-26-2012, 03:59 PM
I have a picture of you and your brother when you were both very young, your father and mother on both sides, of you both.
Your mother in the picture looks typically Indian, why try to say she is anything other than Indian/ gypsy ?
I could repost the picture to make my point?

So, Tabiti's mam is Gypoid?

You keep pictures of the members here, huh? That's rather disturbing.

bluesky
10-26-2012, 04:06 PM
You always come up with something new, everybody knows that this is not true and deep down you also know that this is bullshit

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 04:13 PM
You always come up with something new, everybody knows that this is not true and deep down you also know that this is bullshit

i dont know if its true that im arab but one thing is for sure, im SOME race TOO, I have a country of ORIGIN TOO! Because being a gypsy from serbia is like being a orphan child looking for your biological creators, you dont know who they are and if its true that this or that persons are it, but you know you MUST HAVE IT! because no one is born without biological creators, you know this is the truth.

bluesky
10-26-2012, 04:15 PM
i dont know if its true that im arab but one thing is for sure, im SOME race TOO, I have a country of ORIGIN TOO! Because being a gypsy from serbia is like being a orphan child looking for your biological creators, you dont know who they are and if its true that this or that persons are it, but you know you MUST HAVE IT! because no one is born without biological creators, you know this is the truth.

Easy there arab boy I didnt deny any of this except that you are an arab or that you are white European

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 04:22 PM
Easy there arab boy I didnt deny any of this except that you are an arab or that you are white European

So you say Im not Arab? Ok, if im not Arab I wont be Arab and period. I want to know what exactly I am of which country I descend from/originate. Everyone has a right to know it. You Slavs have Slavistik and you want to trace your roots back. I want to do the same. I have right too.

morski
10-26-2012, 04:24 PM
So you say Im not Arab? Ok, if im not Arab I wont be Arab and period. I want to know what exactly I am of which country I descend from/originate. Everyone has a right to know it. You Slavs have Slavistik and you want to trace your roots back. I want to do the same. I have right too.

I told you already. Join us. Be a Slav, a Serb. Assimilate.

Hurrem sultana
10-26-2012, 04:26 PM
I told you already. Join us. Be a Slav, a Serb. Assimilate.

but no he wants his real roots:D

bluesky
10-26-2012, 04:26 PM
So you say Im not Arab? Ok, if im not Arab I wont be Arab and period. I want to know what exactly I am of which country I descend from/originate. Everyone has a right to know it. You Slavs have Slavistik and you want to trace your roots back. I want to do the same. I have right too.

Here is your root: gypsy and serbian = Non white/non European

Ofourse you have the right to find your roots but you have already foun,d your roots so deal with it do not try to come up with something new

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 04:28 PM
I told you already. Join us. Be a Slav, a Serb. Assimilate.

I will and want it, but i want also the knowledge of my other part(s). Im just a bit joking that i feel as Arab, I wont be anything else then Serb but i still want the KNOWLEDGE JUST, because without the KNOWLEDGE Im just a "half-human", "half-person". I already wrote in my profile that i feel as Serb, that im Serb. My great grandfather fought in Solun Battle against the Turks for Freedom and earned Medaill from Serb King.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Here is your root: gypsy and serbian = Non white/non European

Ofourse you have the right to find your roots but you have already foun,d your roots so deal with it do not try to come up with something new

It looks like if im very few or zero real Serb, more like a Vlach (Romania) but Im 100% SERB. And gypsy i told you is like a orphan, he doesnt know his country of origin. Do you know the song from Muharem "Kazi Mahatma Gandi" (Tell me Mahatma Gandi). You should listen it and everything will be clear.:)

ficuscarica
10-26-2012, 04:33 PM
Become Arab, then you can marry bosnian. :)

morski
10-26-2012, 04:34 PM
I will and want it, but i want also the knowledge of my other part(s). Im just a bit joking that i feel as Arab, I wont be anything else then Serb but i still want the KNOWLEDGE JUST, because without the KNOWLEDGE Im just a "half-human", "half-person". I already wrote in my profile that i feel as Serb, that im Serb. My great grandfather fought in Solun Battle against the Turks for Freedom and earned Medaill from Serb King.

It doesn't work like that. One either assimilates or does not.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 04:34 PM
It doesn't work like that. One either assimilates or does not.

its like "forgive but dont forget":)

Incel King
10-26-2012, 05:09 PM
I think that even you Inquiring Mind don't know what are you. Yesterday you were Serb, one month ago you were Gypsy, today you're Arab. Actually you're obični CIGAN with some Serbian and Russian blood.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 05:12 PM
I think that even you Inquiring Mind don't know what are you. Yesterday you were Serb, one month ago you were Gypsy, today you're Arab. Actually you're obični CIGAN with some Serbian and Russian blood.

lol. thats probably the biggest insult in your narrow minded head you can come up with.

safinator
10-26-2012, 05:15 PM
I think that even you Inquiring Mind don't know what are you. Yesterday you were Serb, one month ago you were Gypsy, today you're Arab. Actually you're obični CIGAN with some Serbian and Russian blood.
One thing is for sure, he's an Aryan.

Incel King
10-26-2012, 05:25 PM
lol. thats probably the biggest insult in your narrow minded head you can come up with.

Thank goodness that I'm narrow minded not some junkie homosexual effeminate anti-White and racial traitor liberal with piercings in tongue and nose and tattoos all over the body.

Mortimer
10-26-2012, 05:45 PM
Thank goodness that I'm narrow minded not some junkie homosexual effeminate anti-White and racial traitor liberal with piercings in tongue and nose and tattoos all over the body.

the world is not white and black. there are many shades inbetween. im not either the effeminate homosexual with piercings and tattoes but i respect every human and the quest for happiness in life. if tracing back my roots makes me happier, let me be. its a nice hobby better then being drunk or taking drugs

Incel King
10-26-2012, 06:01 PM
the world is not white and black. there are many shades inbetween. im not either the effeminate homosexual with piercings and tattoes but i respect every human and the quest for happiness in life. if tracing back my roots makes me happier, let me be. its a nice hobby better then being drunk or taking drugs

Ok, ok, you won ;) . Our geography teacher once said that everyone have right to declare ethnically oneself however he/she wants. If you said that you're Swede, then you're Swede on census, but you wouldn't be accepted as real Swede by majority.

Holle Bolle Gijss
10-26-2012, 06:32 PM
if tracing back my roots makes me happier, let me be.Fair enough and please do by all means.

But do you really have to bother everyone else with that? I mean 50 threads and 3000 pictures of the same old, same old is for most here getting mighty tiresome lad.

An identity crisis at some point is one thing, having it constantly and in the proces trying to make others aknowledge shit that you obviously are not and never will be is a different matter altogether.

You went from thinking you were a Gypo, to a Jew, to an Arab (and some other shit inbetween) in some weird conquest of finding whiteness and actually expecting people here to aknowledge that for you aswell.

Time to face the facts dude. No one is ever going to mistake you for a white/European man. And if they do... Then there mistaken.

ariaka
10-26-2012, 06:48 PM
I don't understand why some people are getting mad at inquiring mind for sharing his journey with us as he searches for his identity and roots. I for one feel privileged to be able to get a glimpse of someones search for their identity.

Holle Bolle Gijss
10-26-2012, 06:58 PM
I don't understand why some people are getting mad at inquiring mind for sharing his journey with us as he searches for his identity and roots. I for one feel privileged to be able to get a glimpse of someones search for their identity.It's got nothing to do with him sharing. If he were to keep it all in one thread fine. Heck give the guy his own sub so we atleast know what to avoid.

Atm he is basicly flooding the board and some people at some point will form opinions about that.

I don't think anybody is mad about that. People are just fed up with it.

Incel King
10-26-2012, 07:08 PM
Fair enough and please do by all means.

But do you really have to bother everyone else with that? I mean 50 threads and 3000 pictures of the same old, same old is for most here getting mighty tiresome lad.

An identity crisis at some point is one thing, having it constantly and in the proces trying to make others aknowledge shit that you obviously are not and never will be is a different matter altogether.

You went from thinking you were a Gypo, to a Jew, to an Arab (and some other shit inbetween) in some weird conquest of finding whiteness and actually expecting people here to aknowledge that for you aswell.

Time to face the facts dude. No one is ever going to mistake you for a white/European man. And if they do... Then there mistaken.

You have right. He's boring with all those threads about himself. I said to him that he's obični CIGAN or just ordinary Gypsy on English, but there's not use of it. :rolleyes: Inquiring mind is wannabe White/European man with Anglo-Saxon wife. :cool:

Blackout
10-26-2012, 08:43 PM
Why don't you dress up like one, then we can tell you if you really are one! :)

StonyArabia
10-26-2012, 08:47 PM
To be honest I would not see you as a turk, arab or anything else "brown and nonwhite". I dont see you fitting in in any European population as a native either. Its time for you to face that truth! And the only place where you would be considered "white" is in your dreams.

Well Arabs come in variety of shades and looks. The typical Arab that people are mostly familiar with are the Bedouin type and the Levantine type. As for IM he does not look Arab, but he certainly can pass as Levantine like a Syrian, Lebanese,Palestinian, and even some parts of Iraq. He is to lighter than the people in the Arabian pen.

As for Turks, I don't know, but he can certainly pass as Azeri, Armenian, or Georgian. If he said he was Armenian or Georgian his Whitness would not be questioned.

Holle Bolle Gijss
10-26-2012, 11:22 PM
Well Arabs come in variety of shades and looks. The typical Arab that people are mostly familiar with are the Bedouin type and the Levantine type. As for IM he does not look Arab, but he certainly can pass as Levantine like a Syrian, Lebanese,Palestinian, and even some parts of Iraq. He is to lighter than the people in the Arabian pen.

As for Turks, I don't know, but he can certainly pass as Azeri, Armenian, or Georgian. If he said he was Armenian or Georgian his Whitness would not be questioned.So based on this assesment... Would you have him pass as a white man?

xajapa
10-26-2012, 11:27 PM
Hey IM, I commend you for your search, but, realize there are some questions in life that may not be answered. Or maybe, the answer is present, but our eyes are not open, therefore we miss it.

StonyArabia
10-26-2012, 11:47 PM
So based on this assesment... Would you have him pass as a white man?

Pretty much. If he marries a White girl he probably would get White babies anyways.

Holle Bolle Gijss
10-26-2012, 11:59 PM
Pretty much. If he marries a White girl he probably would get White babies anyways.Pretty much means no...

If....he were to marry a white girl. Then the (in your words) pretty much white man would make pretty much white kids. Are them proper white kids? No certainly not.

So the answer to the question directed at you would say that he is not a white man right?

arcticwolf
10-27-2012, 12:32 AM
Sunshine, are you still confused who you are? Dude work on your obsession it's driving you nuts! :D

Talvi
10-27-2012, 02:30 AM
Well Arabs come in variety of shades and looks. The typical Arab that people are mostly familiar with are the Bedouin type and the Levantine type. As for IM he does not look Arab, but he certainly can pass as Levantine like a Syrian, Lebanese,Palestinian, and even some parts of Iraq. He is to lighter than the people in the Arabian pen.

As for Turks, I don't know, but he can certainly pass as Azeri, Armenian, or Georgian. If he said he was Armenian or Georgian his Whitness would not be questioned.

As far as Ive been to Turkey.. I dont think IM would pass.
I guess you are from Caucasus, so you know better, but we have some Azeris and Armenians living here, left from the soviet times, and Ive yet to see one that would have features even remotely resembling IM.

Im not sure what you are saying about questioning his whiteness, but I dont consider Armenians, Georgians etc to be "white". I think most Europeans dont.

Kazimiera
10-27-2012, 02:44 AM
THIS AGAIN??!

Partiasn
10-27-2012, 03:27 AM
Honestly the only thing that ultimately matters in the race for humanity, is the contributions one race or the other have made to the survival of the species. It seems that Germanic's and more often Nordic are held up as the ideal, but in reality there is no real ideal. They have some great contributions but they are in no way the only ideal.

Right now though we see the Germanic and Nordic populations sliding into the demographics abyss, so it may be that being an Arab will be more honored than being a Germanic or a Nordic in a few years.

In any case be proud of your heritage both the good and the bad are all part of it. And be even more proud that you are a rational guy that does not let inconvenient truths stand in the way of you view of the world.

rashka
10-27-2012, 03:41 AM
Well, from this thread I gather you decided you are Arabic now, so?

He can easily pass as Lebanese, Syrian, Egyptian or Jordanian.

Osprey
10-27-2012, 04:00 AM
As far as Ive been to Turkey.. I dont think IM would pass.
I guess you are from Caucasus, so you know better, but we have some Azeris and Armenians living here, left from the soviet times, and Ive yet to see one that would have features even remotely resembling IM.

Im not sure what you are saying about questioning his whiteness, but I dont consider Armenians, Georgians etc to be "white". I think most Europeans dont.

He is whiter than your Turkish bf. And many other 'Europeans' in here.

Talvi
10-27-2012, 04:06 AM
He is whiter than your Turkish bf. And many other 'Europeans' in here.

I disagree. I think my bf is whiter (in pigmentation and features). As for many other members - maybe, since there are a lot of members who are also mixed. That still doesnt make IM a white European.

Osprey
10-27-2012, 04:12 AM
I disagree. I think my bf is whiter (in pigmentation and features). As for many other members - maybe, since there are a lot of members who are also mixed. That still doesnt make IM a white European.

Your disagreement won't make the truth any different.
Many Europeans (Greeks, especially) are more Middle Eastern looking than IM.
IM is simply fat. You have to seee his teen pic, to judge better.

Osprey
10-27-2012, 04:15 AM
I disagree. I think my bf is whiter (in pigmentation and features). As for many other members - maybe, since there are a lot of members who are also mixed. That still doesnt make IM a white European.

And yes. If a girl's parents give her a brass ring with crystallized glass additives, she'll proclaim to the world that her bf gifted her a gold necklace with diamond sprinklings.

Talvi
10-27-2012, 04:18 AM
Your disagreement won't make the truth any different.
Many Europeans (Greeks, especially) are more Middle Eastern looking than IM.
IM is simply fat. You have to seee his teen pic, to judge better.

Your jealousy over my bf wont make the truth any different either. (and i have seen his teen pic)


And yes. If a girl's parents give her a brass ring with crystallized glass additives, she'll proclaim to the world that her bf gifted her a gold necklace with diamond sprinklings.

Im worried about you Osprey. You arent developing an obsession over me and my relationship with my bf like IM has developed an obsession over his pigmentation and heritage, are you?

Lithium
10-27-2012, 04:29 AM
Your disagreement won't make the truth any different.
Many Europeans (Greeks, especially) are more Middle Eastern looking than IM.
IM is simply fat. You have to seee his teen pic, to judge better.

Enough with the pics... please :D

Han Cholo
10-27-2012, 04:29 AM
Im worried about you Osprey. You arent developing an obsession over me and my relationship with my bf like IM has developed an obsession over his pigmentation and heritage, are you?

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af332/arbin_420/9fb17eca.jpg

Lithium
10-27-2012, 04:32 AM
I have no idea what's up with your obsession with Talvi but this is really weird :confused:

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 04:47 AM
Your jealousy over my bf wont make the truth any different either. (and i have seen his teen pic)

Just look into my avatar and then compare with your turanid touched bf.



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Im worried about you Osprey. You arent developing an obsession over me and my relationship with my bf like IM has developed an obsession over his pigmentation and heritage, are you?

I think same like him and you are not interesting to me.

Blackout
10-27-2012, 01:42 PM
Inq, do that thing with your fingers whilst wearing that delightful hat! :)

Dacul
10-27-2012, 01:49 PM
Lol IM you got :
North-East-European 27.39%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.37%
North-European-Mesolithic 0.82%
East-Siberean 0.18%
which summed gives:
54.76% european admixture.
Besides,west asian can be of caucasian origins,so that is from Georgia or Armenia and so on,how you said that is jewish or arab admixture for sure?

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Inq, do that thing with your fingers whilst wearing that delightful hat! :)

You mean the Chetnik Stuff? Im not a Chetnik. Chetniks have been Traitors eventhough they started as Freedom Fighters but they lost support from the allies because of their fascism, Partisans are the real Deal!:) Chetniks would kill me or sell me out to the fascists.

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 01:53 PM
Lol IM you got :
North-East-European 27.39%
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.37%
North-European-Mesolithic 0.82%
East-Siberean 0.18%
which summed gives:
54.76% european admixture.
Besides,west asian can be of caucasian origins,so that is from Georgia or Armenia and so on,how you said that is jewish or arab admixture for sure?

Im not sure, but I have almost 10% Near East Admix, I always evaluated southwestasian/near east/arabian=jew + westasian/caucasus=iraq?

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 01:56 PM
I dont know really. Maybe someone can help out?

Dacul
10-27-2012, 01:56 PM
West Asian have the highest percentage in Caucasus not in arabic or jewish people.
Here is the map:
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/West-Asian-admixture.gif
You can notice that originated in Caucasus mountains,the so called "west asian admixture".
Now Caucasus mountains are the border between Europe and Asia.

Blackout
10-27-2012, 02:08 PM
You mean the Chetnik Stuff? Im not a Chetnik. Chetniks have been Traitors eventhough they started as Freedom Fighters but they lost support from the allies because of their fascism, Partisans are the real Deal!:) Chetniks would kill me or sell me out to the fascists.

I don't know, I think it's like a small 'cowboy' hat? :)

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 02:09 PM
West Asian have the highest percentage in Caucasus not in arabic or jewish people.
Here is the map:
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/West-Asian-admixture.gif
You can notice that originated in Caucasus mountains,the so called "west asian admixture".
Now Caucasus mountains are the border between Europe and Asia.

how much west asian do arabs and jews score? does it depend on the arabic ethnic group? how much iranians score?

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 02:10 PM
I don't know, I think it's like a small 'cowboy' hat? :)

Yes I do own a Cowboy hat:thumb001:

Dacul
10-27-2012, 02:11 PM
It depends for jews,how much they score on west asian admixture.
But I think you just found out that you are eastern european,lol.
And 10% south asian admixture does not really makes you gypsy,but with few gypsy ancestry.

Blackout
10-27-2012, 02:17 PM
Yes I do own a Cowboy hat:thumb001:

Don't worry about the Chetniks, leave them to me! :rofl_002:

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 02:20 PM
Don't worry about the Chetniks, leave them to me! :rofl_002:

Im not worried about Chetniks, I dont have Problem with them. They are just some other fascists to me. Similar to Neo-s.

Blackout
10-27-2012, 03:30 PM
Im not worried about Chetniks, I dont have Problem with them. They are just some other fascists to me. Similar to Neo-s.

I thought you said they wanted to kill you?

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 03:40 PM
I thought you said they wanted to kill you?

I said they would, Not that they want it really. Just like Hitlerists would but im not in danger, so I think:)

Supreme American
10-27-2012, 03:56 PM
I think gypsies are an ethnicity at the least. Also a culture. Where is this Arab family from?

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 04:01 PM
I think gypsies are an ethnicity at the least. Also a culture. Where is this Arab family from?

Hellooo Supreme:)

Blackout
10-27-2012, 04:19 PM
I said they would, Not that they want it really. Just like Hitlerists would but im not in danger, so I think:)

Let's hope not! :)

I remember seeing dark skinned Chetniks in a documentary I saw a while back. So it just confuses me, as to how they can claim to be fascists!

only1
10-27-2012, 05:09 PM
My Hindu friend, why bother wasting your time on searching for better genealogy. You need to learn, a man is traced by his father. If your father is a hindu - you're a hindu too. That's how it works.

Blackout
10-27-2012, 05:44 PM
Huhuhaha! :)

Mortimer
10-27-2012, 05:51 PM
My Hindu friend, why bother wasting your time on searching for better genealogy. You need to learn, a man is traced by his father. If your father is a hindu - you're a hindu too. That's how it works.

Everyone thinks he is "better" then the other. Im not better then anyone or anyone better then me. And my dad is direct paternally a balkanoid E-V13 ydna. My mtdna is T2b5 does that exist in Arabia? Is that semitic or japhetic?

ariaka
10-27-2012, 06:53 PM
Everyone thinks he is "better" then the other. Im not better then anyone or anyone better then me. And my dad is direct paternally a balkanoid E-V13 ydna. My mtdna is T2b5 does that exist in Arabia? Is that semitic or japhetic?

The T haplogroup is found in places like Europe, Turkey and Syria.

el22
10-27-2012, 07:17 PM
Everyone wants to be as Nordic as possible

this is not a gender issue, everyone wants to be Nordish
irrespective of sex

:D And then you woke up

IM, I'm by no means an expert in this, but for me you have some Jew (those smart ones) and nordic blood in your veins.