Two more states recognized Kosovo

[Bugarash 1893]

Two more states recognize Kosovo,Burundi and Papua New Guinea

Does anyone know how many UN members have to recognize it before the UN can approve Kosovo to become a member even with the veto from Russia and China?

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=un

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=nato

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=osce

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=oic

[Bugarash 1893]

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=eu

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=coe

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=g8

http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/chart/membership.php?type=arableague

[Methmatician]

V37DFINxu-4

[Han Cholo]

^Who is this guy?

[Methmatician]

^Who is this guy?

Pavel Chernev

[Flintlocke]

V37DFINxu-4

Temporary flag, no one cares. :rolleyes:

[Methmatician]

Temporary flag, no one cares. :rolleyes:

What other flag is there? Kosovo was never an Albanian state. It was never under control of an Albanian state. All of it's flags aren't related to Albanians.

You would have to create a new one, which would prove Kosovo a new country and Albanians are newcomers to it.

[Anglojew]

Big mistake . While I have nothing against Albanians (they saved many jews during WW2) this is a dangerous precedent for Europe. Kosovo is the spiritual heartland of Serbia and rewarding illegal Albanian migration and massive birthrate sets a terrible precedent for low fertility Europe. Does this mean that Germany will be called "western turkey" in 50 years? Or France "North Algeria"?

[mysticism]

What other flag is there? Kosovo was never an Albanian state. It was never under control of an Albanian state. All of it's flags aren't related to Albanians.

You would have to create a new one, which would prove Kosovo a new country and Albanians are newcomers to it.

For albanians the idea of statehood is still something nebulous, like dishwashers to chimpanzees.

While Serbs and other European and Middle eastern people were building kingdoms, diplomacy, trade and state-unions, albanians were moving in herds across wooded areas, and selling their bodies to Turkish overlords for a bag of ducats.

[Incal]

Big mistake . While I have nothing against Albanians (they saved many jews during WW2) this is a dangerous precedent for Europe. Kosovo is the spiritual heartland of Serbia and rewarding illegal Albanian migration and massive birthdate sets a terrible precedent for low fertility Europe. Does this mean that Germany will be called "western turkey" in 50 years? Or France "North Algeria"?

Exactly my thoughts.

[ficuscarica]

those are two very important states

[Flintlocke]

What other flag is there? Kosovo was never an Albanian state. It was never under control of an Albanian state. All of it's flags aren't related to Albanians.

You would have to create a new one, which would prove Kosovo a new country and Albanians are newcomers to it.

I said temporary not contemporary, the objective is to be replaced by the red and black in the near future.

[Methmatician]

I said temporary not contemporary, the objective is to be replaced by the red and black in the near future.

I know what you said. But any other flag of Kosovo is not Albanian or is simply made up.

[Ushtari]

Kosovo is Albanian territory, meaning the government and the inhabitants are Albanians, thus an Albaniain flag would suit the country well.

[Prengs]

Big mistake . While I have nothing against Albanians (they saved many jews during WW2) this is a dangerous precedent for Europe. Kosovo is the spiritual heartland of Serbia and rewarding illegal Albanian migration and massive birthrate sets a terrible precedent for low fertility Europe. Does this mean that Germany will be called "western turkey" in 50 years? Or France "North Algeria"?

What the heck you are talking, are you stupid? are you confused with creating new fake state of Israel (where 90% of the population are immigrants from Europe)? Precedent was when Kosovo was stolen in 1912 from Serbia and made terror on Albanians of Kosovo (most of Kosovo serbs are immigrants from Serbia).

[Sultan Suleiman]

V37DFINxu-4

I thought Turkish government was pro-Kosovo independence?

[The.Mask]

Most powerfull countries of the world recognized Kosovo as an independant state :

USA, France, Germany, Italy, UK, BeNeLux, almost all of EU countries, Australia, Canada, Japan...

So no one cares about how important are the other countries that recognized or not Kosovo. When i heard some stuff from Algerian gouvernement for example and said that they will never recognize Kosovo! LOL !! Like we give we f*** about what Algeria think or don't think .
Serbia have everything in their hands now they can enter in EU or they can continue their propaganda but one thing is sure Kosovo is a Republic and FREE, deal with it!

[Crn Volk]

I know what you said. But any other flag of Kosovo is not Albanian or is simply made up.

This is the historic flag of Kosovo;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Flag_of_SR_Serbia.svg/800px-Flag_of_SR_Serbia.svg.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Autonomous_Province_of_Kosovo

[Methmatician]

I thought Turkish government was pro-Kosovo independence?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/131/351/eb6.jpg?1307463786

[Mraz]

Except mass killing Albanians, what would Serbia do if it was given Kosovo back? :rolleyes:

[dralos]

medvjed you're not making much sense and since i dont have anything against bosnia and i'm happy it is independant i wont say anything bad towards it but imagine if you were under serbian occupation till this day,you wouldnt be able to imagine it since they would have slaughtered you along time ago if you were living in bosnia

[Methmatician]

medvjed you're not making much sense and since i dont have anything against bosnia and i'm happy it is independant i wont say anything bad towards it but imagine if you were under serbian occupation till this day,you wouldnt be able to imagine it since they would have slaughtered you along time ago if you were living in bosnia

Well the funny thing is, Bosniaks drove my family out of Bosnia :D

[dralos]

i can see why,you are traitors

[Methmatician]

i can see why,you are traitors

;)
W7wkvy-cVUo

[dralos]

you do know that i dont understand bosniaski?

[Methmatician]

you do know that i dont understand bosniaski?

I thought you were from Kosovo?

[dralos]

i'm but i dont speak bosniaski

[kabeiros]

Two more states recognize Kosovo,Burundi and Papua New Guinea Funny but Kossovo doesn't look out of place with this countries

[dralos]

watch out of momma merkel will eat you alive:D

[Guapo]

Except mass killing Albanians, what would Serbia do if it was given Kosovo back? :rolleyes:

There was nothing wrong when Kosovo was part of Serbia, filthy alboz had more rights than average Serbs in Serbia, they just wanted more and more like the locusts that they truly are.

[Methmatician]

i'm but i dont speak bosniaski

If you're from Kosovo then I assumed you would have been taught Serbian.

[dralos]

no i havent been taught any bosniaski

[Methmatician]

no i havent been taught any bosniaski

I know, it's obvious from the way you're spelling the language.

[Guapo]

I know, it's obvious from the way you're spelling the language.

He's inbred, please forgive him/her.

[Mraz]

;)
W7wkvy-cVUo

Awww Jebo te Babo :p

[dralos]

good,now dont be surprise you are expelled since i say bosnianski and you say serbian
it looks kinda traitorous

[Guapo]

traitorious, classic!

[Methmatician]

Awww Jebo te Babo :p

The West shall rise again :cool:


good,now dont be surprise you are expelled since i say bosnianski and you say serbian
it looks kinda traitorous

*Bosanski :picard2:

[dralos]

finally you write it go be proud about it and stop kissing serbian ass

[Mraz]

The West shall rise again :cool:


Babo can't move from Croatia, you lost your chance. :D

[Methmatician]

Babo can't move from Croatia, you lost your chance. :D

There are others who can take his place.
VkYDI-6OCvw

[Mraz]

There are others who can take his place.
VkYDI-6OCvw

Are they still secessionists and pro Dodikistan? I planned to visit Kladusa next summer, it might change my plans :p

[Methmatician]

Are they still secessionists and pro Dodikistan? I planned to visit Kladusa next summer, it might change my plans :p

Not entirely sure. They still exist, but I don't know much of them there are. Most people still like Abdić however, because of Agrokomerc.

[Methmatician]

And don't let it stop you from visiting. They won't torture you pro-Izetbegovići :D The war is over.

[dralos]

quite sad to see a bosniak pro serb

[Methmatician]

quite sad to see a bosniak pro serb

Not necessarily pro-Serb. They just treat Serbs the same way they were treated pre-1990. In my hometown there was only one Serb during the war (an old woman). We all liked her. But eventually she felt it was too dangerous to stay in that town and left for Banja Luka.

[dralos]

she probably left bcs of disappointment that bosniaks survived the war,many serbs used this excuse in the republic of kosova too but they didnt fool anyone,serbs go out and have drinks in the capital nobody bothers them

[Methmatician]

she probably left bcs of disappointment that bosniaks survived the war,many serbs used this excuse in the republic of kosova too but they didnt fool anyone,serbs go out and have drinks in the capital nobody bothers them

It was because her home was the most damaged from bombing.

[dralos]

you cant blame the people for that,they lost their dear ones,so they have to release their frustration but i dont think many serbs are in danger if they visit bosniak places
while alboz from diaspora that go thru serbia have had many accidents when they came in contact with serbs or serbian police

[Mraz]

And don't let it stop you from visiting. They won't torture you pro-Izetbegovići :D The war is over.

I'm not pro-Izetbegovic, he is the politician that is the most cursed by my father.
By the way, you're aware that Serbs were slaughtered in V Kladusa during WWII?

[Methmatician]

you cant blame the people for that,they lost their dear ones,so they have to release their frustration but i dont think many serbs are in danger if they visit bosniak places
while alboz from diaspora that go thru serbia have had many accidents when they came in contact with serbs or serbian police

That time will pass. Used to happen to Bosniaks. But I'm sure some other minority will piss off Serbs and Albanians will be forgotten :D

[Methmatician]

I'm not pro-Izetbegovic, he is the politician that is the most cursed by my father.
By the way, you're aware that Serbs were slaughtered in V Kladusa during WWII?

You said you were form Krajina right? Are you from Zapadna Bosna? I thought the Bosniaks in Krajina that weren't in Zapadna Bosna were the most pro-Izetbegović?

[dralos]

luckily we arent minortiy anymore except my brothers and sisters in presheva

[Methmatician]

By the way, you're aware that Serbs were slaughtered in V Kladusa during WWII?

And Bosniaks were ethnically cleansed from Montenegro in the late 19th century, but now they're on good terms with Montenegrins; times change.

[Mraz]

You said you were form Krajina right? Are you from Zapadna Bosna? I thought the Bosniaks in Krajina that weren't in Zapadna Bosna were the most pro-Izetbegović?

Most people are pro-Izetbegovic indeed, but my dad being a commie had some troubles with neighbours about his political orientation, plus he considers him as responsible of war.
I'm from Kljuc, I'm only pro 5 Korpus and Bosnian army.

[Methmatician]

I'm from Kljuc, I'm only pro 5 Korpus and Bosnian army.

The people who forced me out of Bosnia...
http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/Rottenecards_18432158_8fm2wrv4nf.png

[Mraz]

The people who forced me out of Bosnia...
http://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/Rottenecards_18432158_8fm2wrv4nf.png

:laugh:

Sorry bro, but thanks to them I can say my land is mine, you chose the bad side, but still I don't think they commited war crimes against your people.

[Methmatician]

Sorry bro, but thanks to them I can say my land is mine, you chose the bad side, but still I don't think they commited war crimes against your people.

Well, for me Fikret is a hero just as what V Corps is for you. But that's only because I'm from Western Bosnia. If I were from anywhere else, I'd probably call him a bastard :D

[Mraz]

Well, for me Fikret is a hero just as what V Corps is for you. But that's only because I'm from Western Bosnia. If I were from anywhere else, I'd probably call him a bastard :D

He is a bastard, but I still hope he comes back into business, he was really successful.

[dralos]

either you bosniaks or very peaceful or just retarded bcs if i was any of you i would be battling the other but anyway i guess i have just more fightingspirit:D

[Mraz]

either you bosniaks or very peaceful or just retarded bcs if i was any of you i would be battling the other but anyway i guess i have just more fightingspirit:D

They got defeated and expelled, why should I hit on the nail? :rolleyes:

[dralos]

They got defeated and expelled, why should I hit on the nail? :rolleyes:
but he's a traitor i couldnt even bear to talk to such people,i have to admit you keep it cool when you're talking to such a monster like medvjed

[Mraz]

but he's a traitor i couldnt even bear to talk to such people,i have to admit you keep it cool when you're talking to such a monster like medvjed

They just wanted to save their lives, why should I blame them?
Most of them just followed a guy that really improved their conditions.

[dralos]

yeah i dont understand you yugoz

[Methmatician]

yeah i dont understand you yugoz

It was almost 20 years ago. People would have to start getting over it by now.

[dralos]

It was almost 20 years ago. People would have to start getting over it by now.
we're still arguing with them but soon serbia is going to recognize kosova and then we can move on a bit

[Methmatician]

we're still arguing with them but soon serbia is going to recognize kosova and then we can move on a bit

Serbia would be the last country to recognise Kosovo. The PRC still hasn't recognised the ROC (Taiwan) and it's been over 50 years. I doubt Serbia will recognise Kosovo anytime soon.

[dralos]

serbia isnt china buddy

[Mraz]

Aren't Kosovo's people willing to merge with Albania?

[dralos]

yes mraz we all would love that

[Mraz]

yes mraz we all would love that

So you merge, and since Serbia recognize Albania, everyone is happy :D

[Methmatician]

serbia isnt china buddy

I know, but Kosovo is more important to Serbia than Taiwan is to China. And since China still hasn't recognised Taiwan, then what makes you think Serbia is going to recognise Kosovo soon?

[dralos]

hilary clinton and usa said it will soon and i doubt serbia can whitstand alot of international pressure like china can its proven by the fireworks of belgrade:D

[dralos]

So you merge, and since Serbia recognize Albania, everyone is happy :D
if this happens serbs will stay in albania:D bcs if they go back to serbia they are going to have shitty lifes there

[Incal]

if this happens serbs will stay in albania:D bcs if they go back to serbia they are going to have shitty lifes there

Yeah and life must be paradise in Albania, that's why you can't find ONE SINGLE Albo in this forum living in Albania.

[Guapo]

Yeah and life must be paradise in Albania, that's why you can't find ONE SINGLE Albo in this forum living in Albania.

Lol true, diaspora alboz = laughing stock of teh apecity.

[mysticism]

think we have like 4, or more.

4? no way, like, man.

[mysticism]

Is talking not allowed? The fact that we have plenty of members living in the old country while you guys have practically none is just testament that Kosovo must remain Serbia. For the sake of the Albs themselves.

[alb0zfinest]

There was nothing wrong when Kosovo was part of Serbia, filthy alboz had more rights than average Serbs in Serbia, they just wanted more and more like the locusts that they truly are.

:picard2::picard2::picard2::picard2::picard2: this deserves so many more face palms

[mysticism]

We have 1 Albanian living in Kosova atleast, 0 Serbs. Using your logic Kosovo je Albanija. :thumb001:

You're mistaken. It's Serbia whether or not you are in Kosovo or Novi Sad.

You have 1 alb in Serbia, we have 6+ Serbs in Serbia....that's the score.

[alb0zfinest]

Serbia would be the last country to recognise Kosovo. The PRC still hasn't recognised the ROC (Taiwan) and it's been over 50 years. I doubt Serbia will recognise Kosovo anytime soon.

The e.u has practically made the recognition of kosovo a requirement for Serbia to join the e.u. And actually the last state to recognize kosova would probably be Cyprus. The regime of Cyprus has said Cyprus will not recognize Kosova even if Serbia does so.

[alb0zfinest]

Is talking not allowed? The fact that we have plenty of members living in the old country while you guys have practically none is just testament that Kosovo must remain Serbia. For the sake of the Albs themselves.

That was very stupid. If the Albanians were suppressed exploited and persecuted when they were under Serbia, somehow making them under Serbia again will change that?
The economy of Albania is pretty bad, but then again so is Serbia's. For a country (Albania) that has faced so much and actually only recently properly started developing it has made tremendous progress. There is still work to be done, but when Albania joins the e.u things will improve even more.

[mysticism]

That was very stupid. If the Albanians were suppressed exploited and persecuted when they were under Serbia, somehow making them under Serbia again will change that?
The economy of Albania is pretty bad, but then again so is Serbia's. For a country (Albania) that has faced so much and actually only recently properly started developing it has made tremendous progress. There is still work to be done, but when Albania joins the e.u things will improve even more.

Albania has been (might still be) the poorest country in Europe until recently. This is due to noone's fault but the Albs.

Albs were treated the best in Kosovo and when Tito died they started causing problems and discriminating against the Kosovo Serbs.....K-albs are victims of their own bullsh*t. Albania won't join the EU for another 50 years and Kosovo not in 100,000,000.

So good luck with that :)

[alb0zfinest]

Albania has been (might still be) the poorest country in Europe until recently. This is due to noone's fault but the Albs.

Albs were treated the best in Kosovo and when Tito died they started causing problems and discriminating against the Kosovo Serbs.....K-albs are victims of their own bullsh*t. Albania won't join the EU for another 50 years and Kosovo not in 100,000,000.

So good luck with that :)

Right i assume Albanians wanted 500 years of ottoman rule, balkan wars, treaties they had no say in, italian occupation, german occupation, Communism in which nothing but the military was being developed, 1999 war. But no you're right this was all the albanians :picard2:

hahahahahaha Albanians were treated the best? dude are you trolling or are you really just stupid? Its funny that you mention the e.u, considering the fact that stefan fule actually said that Albania will get candidate status by the end of the year. As for kosova well Kosova will be part of Albania so don't be so "concerned"

[mysticism]

Source?

Accession after receiving candidate status takes about 10 years (in Croatia's case). Albania is set to get candidate status next year (probably won't get it) ....so that means 10 years x 5 because Albania is that much worse of a case than Croatia.

"4 key prioriteries were found to be met, while 2 were well in progress and the remaining 6 were in moderate progress. The report concluded that if Albania manage to hold a fair and democratic parliamentary election in June 2013, and implement the remaining changes also to comply with the 8 key priorities still not fully met, then the Council of the European Union would be recommended to grant Albania official candidate status".[8][9]

[mysticism]

Right i assume Albanians wanted 500 years of ottoman rule, balkan wars, treaties they had no say in, italian occupation, german occupation, Communism in which nothing but the military was being developed, 1999 war. But no you're right this was all the albanians :picard2:

Rest of the Balkans had the same problems = not as poor as Albania. :picard2:


hahahahahaha Albanians were treated the best? dude are you trolling or are you really just stupid? Its funny that you mention the e.u, considering the fact that stefan fule actually said that Albania will get candidate status by the end of the year. As for kosova well Kosova will be part of Albania so don't be so "concerned"

Of course they were, do research and see what kind of privileges Tito gave the Albanians. And why the Serb population in Kosovo dropped by 30% during Tito's rule. SMH...

[alb0zfinest]

Rest of the Balkans had the same problems = not as poor as Albania. :picard2:



Of course they were, do research and see what kind of privileges Tito gave the Albanians. And why the Serb population in Kosovo dropped by 30% during Tito's rule. SMH...

When we consider ottoman rule,Serbia got defacto independence since 1817. Which means it had years ahead of Albania to start developing and recovering. Then with the separation of Kosova from Albania after the treaty was signed it was destabilized even more. And then it became even more chaotic after the treaty of London in 1915 which gave Albanian lands to Italians and French to occupy. Along with Austria-hungaries occupation in north and central Albania. This caused political chaos and ruin. Finally in 1922 there was the Zogu government which lasted 2 years, that followed another revolution. Then more ruling by a king. Then came Italian occupation where the country was in complete ruin.
"The sacrifices of our people were very great. Out of a population of one million, 28,000 were killed, 12,600 wounded, 10,000 were made political prisoners in Italy and Germany, and 35,000 made to do forced labor, of ground; all the communications, all the ports, mines and electric power installations were destroyed, our agriculture and livestock were plundered, and our entire national economy was wrecked."
—Enver Hoxha[22]
This is under German occupation mostly: "United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration reported about 30,000 Albanian war dead, 200 destroyed villages, 60,000 destroyed houses, and about 100,000 people left homeless."
Then came communism. While Albanians were struggling not to starve, Serbia (Yugoslavia) was prospering, for over 40 years this continued. Then even after Tito Serbia kept prospering, by exploiting countries like Bosnia and Croatia that were part of Yugoslavia. And to answer your question The Serbs were leaving because of all the countries that were part of yugoslavia, Kosova was the poorest. So there wasn't many jobs in kosovo, plus the birthrates of the Albanians was really high. Continuing with Albania, after the "civil war" in Albania, in 1999 when the ethnic cleansing was transpiring in Kosova Albania had to take Kovovo-Albanian refugees and sending weapons and supplies to Kosovo Albanians. So please don't tell me all the Balkan countries went through the same thing, which is complete bullshit. The worst that Serbia faced in like 80 years was the bombing of Serbia which was mostly military bases (I'm not saying there wasn't cases of houses or factories being destroyed, but it was quite little).

[alb0zfinest]

Accession after receiving candidate status takes about 10 years (in Croatia's case). Albania is set to get candidate status next year (probably won't get it) ....so that means 10 years x 5 because Albania is that much worse of a case than Croatia.

"4 key prioriteries were found to be met, while 2 were well in progress and the remaining 6 were in moderate progress. The report concluded that if Albania manage to hold a fair and democratic parliamentary election in June 2013, and implement the remaining changes also to comply with the 8 key priorities still not fully met, then the Council of the European Union would be recommended to grant Albania official candidate status".[8][9]

It won't take 15 years. And Croatia began talks in 2005 so it wasn't 10 years. It took Croatia that long because the people of Croatia were divided whether or not they wanted Croatia to join the e.u. As for Albania it depends on how much progress they make. So far they've shown tremendous progress despite a very, very corrupt regime. Imagine what Albania could do with proper leaders.

[Methmatician]

Imagine what Albania could do with proper leaders.

Proper leaders in the Balkans? I guess one can dream :rolleyes:

[alb0zfinest]

Proper leaders in the Balkans? I guess one can dream :rolleyes:

Well they're quite rare but it's not like they're non existent. People like Albin Kurti are clear examples of this.

[kabeiros]

think we have like 4, or more.There is internet in Albania??????????????

[dralos]

lol albania as a state might be poor but the albanians in albania are much richer than their neighbours only greece may be richer
second albanians are heavily buying property in montenegro

[alb0zfinest]

There is internet in Albania??????????????

72% of Kosovas population has access to the internet. While Greece 46% which isin't far from Albania which has 44%. So joke is on you.

[Aura]

There is internet in Albania??????????????

as it goes in your country you guys soon even internet wont have

[kabeiros]

72% of Kosovas population has access to the internet. While Greece 46% which isin't far from Albania which has 44%. So joke is on you.
sources? your head I guess

[alb0zfinest]

sources? your head I guess

http://setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2012/05/16/feature-02
"The Kosovo Association of Information and Communication Technology (STIKK) notes that internet penetration is 72.1%"
Albania
http://www.internetworldstats.com/euro/al.htm
Internet usage 44%
Greece
http://www.internetworldstats.com/eu/gr.htm
Internet usage 46%

[Guapo]

turkic-mongols+analbanians=union lol

Lol, you silly Slavic Blood you

[el22]

Yeah and life must be paradise in Albania, that's why you can't find ONE SINGLE Albo in this forum living in Albania.

I live in Albania, and I think Aura too.

[Guapo]

I live in Albania, and I think Aura too.

Liar, your IP is Washington state.

[Bugarash 1893]

V37DFINxu-4

In Bulgaria people consider him a nutcase...Long story.

[Bugarash 1893]

those are two very important states

In Kosovo's case,a recognization from a state like Vanatu with a total population of 250,000 or from Pakistan with 200 million,it all has the same weight.

They both have a seat in the UN,

[Guapo]

In Bulgaria people consider ME a nutcase...Long story.

fixed

[Damião de Góis]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/CountriesRecognizingKosovo.png/800px-CountriesRecognizingKosovo.png

I had no idea about this btw. Most people here can't point Kosovo in the map.

[kabeiros]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/CountriesRecognizingKosovo.png/800px-CountriesRecognizingKosovo.png
It looks like a map of NATO and friends

[Guapo]

It looks like a map of Islam-friendly friends, green too
fixed

[Damião de Góis]

It looks like a map of NATO and friends

America said "jump" and others said "how high". Average citizens of these countries knew nothing though.

[Anusiya]

Well, what can I say, it's uncle Sam and a bunch of feudarch cut-throats that decide the faith of the ciflik.. sorry the region. Best of luck because they are going to need it!

[Damião de Góis]

Without America's guns in the background when they asked this question, i'm pretty sure Portugal would have stayed neutral, as this is not our business and no one here is educated enough about the subject to give an opinion.

[Bugarash 1893]

It looks like a map of NATO and friends

Why doesnt Greece recognize Kosovo?
Scared of a Greater Albania or something?

[Guapo]

Why doesnt Greece recognize Kosovo?
Scared of a Greater Albania or something?

Go suck American cock, bulgarian pussy.

[kabeiros]

Why doesnt Greece recognize Kosovo?
Scared of a Greater Albania or something?we don't recognise fake states imposed by uncle sam in order to destabilize -an already instable- region

[Anusiya]

Why doesnt Greece recognize Kosovo?
Scared of a Greater Albania or something?

It better stay independent. For their sake.

[Bugarash 1893]

Greater Albania=Weak Serbia
Weak Serbia=Strong Bulgaria

simple as a serbian turbo folk singers brain:)

[Bugarash 1893]

we don't recognise fake states imposed by uncle sam in order to destabilize -an already instable- region

Only those who hold territories that dont belong to them are afraid of a border change yeh know.

Besides...lets be real here,this was the only real solution to the Kosovo issue.

But why dont you accept it?
Serbia recognizes the ''right'' of FYROM to have a ''macedonian'' language,nation...

Did you hear the latest statment from serbia's president?
He says he feel the Kosovo story is unfair toward Serbia just as things are unfair toward FYROM on the name issue...

[kabeiros]

Only those who hold territories that dont belong to them are afraid of a border change yeh know.Nah, only those who know that USA don't give a shit about history, minorities and a region's rightful owners are afraid of a border change

[alb0zfinest]

fixed

that was a stupid "fix" considering only half of the Arab league recognized Kosova and most of those weren't even the big Muslim countries (Except Saudi Arabia) like pakistan, bangladesh, Iran etc etc.

[alb0zfinest]

Without America's guns in the background when they asked this question, i'm pretty sure Portugal would have stayed neutral, as this is not our business and no one here is educated enough about the subject to give an opinion.

Are you kidding you realize that Portugal actually had pressure from Russia not to recognize Kosova yet they did anyways.

[alb0zfinest]

we don't recognise fake states imposed by uncle sam in order to destabilize -an already instable- region

Greece's opinion has no value. Its funny you mention uncle Sam since you didn't mind him supplying you with money when communism was at your door step. And according to you leaving Kosova part of Serbia will make the region more stable?

[alb0zfinest]

Nah, only those who know that USA don't give a shit about history, minorities and a region's rightful owners are afraid of a border change

So basically what you're saying is you're scared of border changes.

[The.Mask]

that was a stupid "fix" considering only half of the Arab league recognized Kosova and most of those weren't even the big Muslim countries (Except Saudi Arabia) like pakistan, bangladesh, Iran etc etc.

Not to forget that many muslims state officialy admitted that they won't recognize Kosovo. Like Algeria, Azerbaidjan, Iran or Morocco.
But people like to make propaganda we can't do nothing ;)

[Guapo]

Not to forget that many muslims state officialy admitted that they won't recognize Kosovo. Like Algeria or Morocco.
But people like to make propaganda we can't do nothing ;)

Oh look, another turk joined teh apecity forum.

[Damião de Góis]

Are you kidding you realize that Portugal actually had pressure from Russia not to recognize Kosova yet they did anyways.

No i don't think this happened. I don't remember hearing about it and when i googled it now i got no results. Basically we (and the rest of the EU) followed America's position. If they had said no, Europe would have said no as well.

[Guapo]

No i don't think this happened. I don't remember hearing about it and when i googled it now i got no results. Basically we (and the rest of the EU) followed America's position. If they had said no, Europe would have said no as well.

Ignore him, European christian brother, he's albanian living in USA :rolleyes:

[alb0zfinest]

Ignore him, European christian brother, he's albanian living in USA :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with anything?

[mysticism]

Durka Durka Mohammed Dzihad!

Thanks for ur input shiptar

[Guapo]

Thanks for ur input shitar

fixed

[The.Mask]

Oh look, another turk joined teh apecity forum.

Ottamans are gone since ages you must be mistaken with someone else ;)

I'm from Albania, if you don't know where is it i will show you ! :thumb001:

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/050_files/010.jpg

[alb0zfinest]

No i don't think this happened. I don't remember hearing about it and when i googled it now i got no results. Basically we (and the rest of the EU) followed America's position. If they had said no, Europe would have said no as well.

http://www.newkosovareport.com/200810031274/Politics/russia-pressuring-portugal-not-to-recognize-kosovo.html

[Guapo]

I'm from Albania

Wow, a map.

Sorry for you, Afro-Turk :bored:

[Damião de Góis]

http://www.newkosovareport.com/200810031274/Politics/russia-pressuring-portugal-not-to-recognize-kosovo.html

Ok, the pressure probably was reduced to that statement. He was right anyway, but as i said our government just followed America's instructions and followed other EU countries since it was the 22º country to recognize Kosovo. The people in general however are clueless about this subject.

[alb0zfinest]

Ok, the pressure probably was reduced to that statement. He was right anyway, but as i said our government just followed America's instructions and followed other EU countries since it was the 22º country to recognize Kosovo. The people in general however are clueless about this subject.

I'm sure he was supported for what he said by the Russian regime. Ambassadors don't just say anything after all, he is representing that country (in this case Russia).Even without this its only logical, Russia was against the independence of Kosovo, so naturally they too lobbied or pressured other countries not to recognize Kosovo as an independent state. And probably still do.

[mysticism]

Ottamans are gone since ages you must be mistaken with someone else ;)

I'm from Albania, if you don't know where is it i will show you ! :thumb001:

I believe that's located in here:

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/Servia1350AD.png

[alb0zfinest]

I believe that's located in here:

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/Servia1350AD.png

Wow so Albania is going to expand by that much? Great.
Id like to see the reaction of Greeks to that map.

[Bugarash 1893]

Nah, only those who know that USA don't give a shit about history, minorities and a region's rightful owners are afraid of a border change

It just happens to be USA to be behind the Kosovo project.

What difference that makes?

[safinator]

There is internet in Albania??????????????
Yeah probably something you will not afford in the times that will come.

[Bugarash 1893]

Its not just Kosovo...

Albanians have been completely ethnically cleansed in the region of Toplica.

For example,in 1873,just a few years before Serbia acquired Kursumlija,Kursumlija had the following population:

Christians/Muslims-all albanian muslims

757 / 5951

Now there isnt a single albanian here

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Serbia_Kur%C5%A1umlija.png

[dralos]

typical serbian barbarism,they did same with bulgarian population in serbia and if they didnt ethnic cleansed them then they were forcefully in a very brutal way assimilated into the serbian nation

[mysticism]

Evil albanians assimilating Serbs in Kosovo, total barbarians absorbing precious slavic blood

[dralos]

did you chose albania as your country to make us swarthy like you serbs?

[Bugarash 1893]

You still have traces of albanians being present in those regions...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Toplica_in_Serbia.svg/419px-Toplica_in_Serbia.svg.png

Some village names in the Toplica District show it:

Kastrat, Alabana, Arbanaska, Arbanasce, Dzigol, Lyusa

Yugoslav communists did try to make Kosovo albanians feel as a seperate nation from the albanians in Albania but that had no effect.

Albanians were a very compact population and with a much more distinct/different culture than the serbs.
Albanians were olso isolated by the system.That helped them the most.

For example,mixed marriages between Serbs and Bosniaks in Bosnia back in the days were about 10% of the total...marriages between Albanians and Serbs in Kosovo ranged no more than 0!

Unlike todays fyr macedonians who were successfully brainwashed through all sorts of methods.Albanians never forgot their struggle against serbs during the yugoslav commie period.They kept the antiserb sentiment alive and that at some point saved them.

[RussiaPrussia]

Great its just small little islands india, china, russia and brazil, indonesia and mexico have a population of 3.2 Billion people of the total of 7 Billion people around the world.

Its obvious more people in the world dont recognize you than they do.

Also its doesnt mater china and russia have veto so you wont be a state, just as palistine wont be a state because usa can veto as well.

[dralos]

Great its just small little islands india, china, russia and brazil, indonesia and mexico have a population of 3.2 Billion people of the total of 7 Billion people around the world.

Its obvious more people in the world dont recognize you than they do.

Also its doesnt mater china and russia have veto so you wont be a state, just as palistine wont be a state because usa can veto as well.
if they were so important china and russia they would have helped serbia by not letting kosova gain independence in 2008 but asusual they're shit:)

[Incal]

No i don't think this happened. I don't remember hearing about it and when i googled it now i got no results. Basically we (and the rest of the EU) followed America's position. If they had said no, Europe would have said no as well.

That's true. The US imposes its agenda in everybody.

[ficuscarica]

Why wasn´t the Kosovo simply split between Albania and Serbia?

[dralos]

Why wasn´t the Kosovo simply split between Albania and Serbia?
why should it be split?kosova as a whole is pred albania,only a tiny spot in the north is serbian and serbia has presheva valley who is full with albanians
eastern serbia who is with bulgarians and romanians,vojvodina who is hungarian

[mysticism]

Why wasn´t the Kosovo simply split between Albania and Serbia?

Because NATO came and invaded kosovo with ground-troops and diplomacy forced that weak schmuck Yeltsin to pull the Russians out.

[The Lawspeaker]

Funny but Kossovo doesn't look out of place with this countries

AMEN !

[Hevo]

why should it be split?kosova as a whole is pred albania,only a tiny spot in the north is serbian and serbia has presheva valley who is full with albanians
eastern serbia who is with bulgarians and romanians,vojvodina who is hungarian

Oh really? Get your facts right dude.

http://i48.tinypic.com/29dk3sj.png

Hungary has praised Serbia's treatment of minorities, commending the cultural autonomy and use of minority languages in Serbia.

[dralos]

hilary clinton from the country wich helped making poland a better country(for hevo)said no border changes are going to happen and kosova will stay independent

[Archduke]

Oh really? Get your facts right dude.



Hungary has praised Serbia's treatment of minorities, commending the cultural autonomy and use of minority languages in Serbia.

I can't see the large Vlach minority. I guess it is counted as "Serbian".

[dralos]

or the large gypsy population

[Hevo]

I can't see the large Vlach minority. I guess it is counted as "Serbian".

2002: 40,054 declared Vlachs, 54,818 people declared Vlach as their mother language (population figures given for entire Serbia) or 39,953 declared Vlachs, 54,726 people declared Vlach as their mother language (population figures given for Central Serbia only)[37]
The Vlach (Romanian) population of Central Serbia is concentrated mostly in the region limited by Morava River (west), Danube River (north) and Timok River (south-east). See also: List of settlements in Serbia inhabited by Vlachs.
By some Romanian and Western European organizations, in eastern Serbia live around 250,000 - 400,000[43] people of Romanian(vlach) origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs_of_Serbia

Its their choice i guess.

[Anatolian Eagle]

Not to forget that many muslims state officialy admitted that they won't recognize Kosovo. Like Algeria, Azerbaidjan, Iran or Morocco.
But people like to make propaganda we can't do nothing ;)

Azerbaijan is unable to recognize Kosovo due to their dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh with Armenia, since recognizing Kosovo would put them in a disadvantaged situtation over their own dispute. They don't recognize Northern Cyprus for the same reason, with addition of international pressure.

[mysticism]

Vlach and gypsy minorities don't form majorities in any district that's why.

[kabeiros]

So basically what you're saying is you're scared of border changes.I'm not scared Albo, your alliance with the US will not last for ever... and even if it did they're not going to bomb Greece like they did with Serbia. In a war between our countries you're doomed.

[dralos]

I'm not scared Albo, your alliance with the US will not last for ever... and even if it did they're not going to bomb Greece like they did with Serbia. In a war between our countries you're doomed.
i dont think so,you have made mama merkel too many times angry:D

[The Lawspeaker]

i dont think so,you have made mama merkel too many times angry:D

"Mama" Merkel. More like the Fuhrer (she is not very popular here and I don't think the Germans themselves live her either).

[Anatolian Eagle]

i dont think so,you have made mama merkel too many times angry:D

http://medya.zaman.com.tr/2011/11/03/papandreu3_b.jpg

[The Lawspeaker]

http://medya.zaman.com.tr/2011/11/03/papandreu3_b.jpg

She is standing there like a teacher checking his homework while he is standing there like a schoolboy awaiting her verdict. If that's not a humiliating picture I don't know what is. Just look at their pose and expressions: she is totally in control and he is just.. well.

[Damião de Góis]

Our PM, "the good student":

http://www.record.xl.pt/storage/ngB1AF4843-3EF3-4737-B9CC-F9B11736CFA0.jpg?type=big

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Angela+Merkel+Portuguese+PM+Coelho+Visits+V4vVftSH eQHl.jpg

http://www.coiso.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/merkel_passos-e1315153630635.jpg

[alb0zfinest]

Oh really? Get your facts right dude.

http://i48.tinypic.com/29dk3sj.png

Hungary has praised Serbia's treatment of minorities, commending the cultural autonomy and use of minority languages in Serbia.

hahahahahahhahhahahahahhahahhahahaha, so suppresing minority rights, not permitting them to speak their own language, burning minority houses and killing them. These are all aspects of a country who treats their minorities correctly.

[alb0zfinest]

I'm not scared Albo, your alliance with the US will not last for ever... and even if it did they're not going to bomb Greece like they did with Serbia. In a war between our countries you're doomed.

hahahah i guess we will have to wait and see. Your country is in a weak state, soon enough they will have to sell some of their islands to Turkey just to feed their own people.

[Bugarash 1893]

Can Serbia just go through a redefinition?

Vojvodina to become a Republic within a Serbian federation.
Hungarians get their autonomy unit within Vojvodina.
Sandzak gets autonomy.
Preshevo Valley gets autonomy.
The Western Outlands get autonomy.

Evryone is happy.

Serbia remains unbroken.
Hungarians,Bosniaks,Albanians and Bulgarians find their place within the serbian borders.

[kabeiros]

hahahah i guess we will have to wait and seeBuahaha, you don't even have an air force and you want to engage in war with us :picard2:
I wish you will do this fatal mistake, you will help us forget about our financial problems for a while (1-2 days at most) and you will feed our national pride a little (not that defeating you should be a matter of pride)

[kabeiros]

i dont think so,you have made mama merkel too many times angry:D
and does mama merkel considers alboz her children? I doubt...

[alb0zfinest]

Buahaha, you don't even have an air force and you want to engage in war with us :picard2:
I wish you will do this fatal mistake, you will help us forget about our financial problems for a while (1-2 days at most) and you will feed our national pride a little (not that defeating you should be a matter of pride)

I guess you didn't read the wait and see. Of course not now, in some years when Albania is united with kosova and probably with some of macedonia, furthermore when their economy is stronger. And of course it depends who starts the war, if Greece starts the war they will seem as the aggressor and other countries will have to get involved.

[Anusiya]

"Mama" Merkel. More like the Fuhrer (she is not very popular here and I don't think the Germans themselves live her either).

Oh but they do. Alas. She has brought some stabillity in previously underdeveloped eastern provinces, has made some people richer and now they don't want to let her go. Even people who until recently were considered left-socialist. :picard1:

[The Lawspeaker]

Oh but they do. Alas. She has brought some stabillity in previously underdeveloped eastern provinces, has made some people richer and now they don't want to let her go. Even people who until recently were considered left-socialist. :picard1:

Go and ask the Germans themselves. What happened when Germany reunited was that millions of East Germans lost their work and the factories were either closed down or moved west. Merkel hasn't done much to stop that trent.

[Anusiya]

Go and ask the Germans themselves. What happened when Germany reunited was that millions of East Germans lost their work and the factories were either closed down or moved west. Merkel hasn't done much to stop that trent.

Actually I have, and she presents high scores of popularity among eastern Germans. She is viewed as something like a stabillity factor.:crazy:

[The Lawspeaker]

Actually I have, and she presents high scores of popularity among eastern Germans. She is viewed as something like a stabillity factor.:crazy:

I can't believe those people: she robbed them blind in more than one way and they still support her ? Da fuq ?

[Anusiya]

I can't believe those people: she robbed them blind in more than one way and they still support her ? Da fuq ?

Let me just say that eastern Germans are not really well known for having digested all aspects of the notion of democracy. Still some eastern bloc mentallity hidden there. "As long as I have something to eat I am fine." :thumb001:

[RussiaPrussia]

if they were so important EU and USA they would have helped Georgia by not letting South Ossetia and Abchasia gain independence in 2008 but asusual they're shit D:

D:

[dralos]

i never said that

[Incal]

Buahaha, you don't even have an air force and you want to engage in war with us :picard2:

LOL they can't even handle a deserted ammo depot:

XuTMmpsd70U

[Flintlocke]

Buahaha, you don't even have an air force and you want to engage in war with us :picard2:


Greece may have 5 times the military equipment of all Balkan nations combined but Albania has MiG-19's that don't even work anymore. Vroom vroom!

jMNEpeCpWwQ

[The Lawspeaker]

Greece may have 5 times the military equipment of all Balkan nations combined but Albania has MiG-19's that don't even work anymore. Vroom vroom!

jMNEpeCpWwQ

MIG 19s ! :thumb001: Nice... when did the Russki's use them ? 1960s ?

[Flintlocke]

MIG 19s ! :thumb001: Nice... when did the Russki's use them ? 1960s ?

More like early 70's, the first supersonic Soviet fighter, I fly it on Flight Sim all the time :)