Classify spanish Maria Castro

[Cristiano viejo]

http://fotos0.mundofotos.net/2009/15_03_2009/cinemastars1237112368/maria-castro.jpg
http://www.internes.es/uploads/images/maria-castro.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Lf1TOwDu_c/SwsawI9JHjI/AAAAAAAAGG8/tT0LgHfpUAo/s1600/MARIA+CASTRO+1.jpg
http://www.seriesblog.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Tierra-de-lobos-tendr%C3%A1-a-Mar%C3%ADa-Castro-y-Nicol%C3%A1s-Coronado-289x300.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Red hair and freckles aside, her facial structure is very Iberian and she doesn't look British.

[gold_fenix]

common taxonomy : atlantid
new taxonomy (in progress of stablishment): atlantic

[Cristiano viejo]

Red hair and freckles aside, her facial structure is very Iberian and she doesn't look British.

If we look in facial structure according to you and your levels, Andy Garcia should be italian and not cuban :rolleyes:
There must be thousands of british like this girl although this is irrelevant and not importance.

[Brynhildr]

North-atlantid

[Aviane]

If anything she looks more comparable to this woman:
http://daddysalbum.com/uploads/R1.4/f3d99c4c0232106778b17180485dfdc1.jpg
http://www.rankingfamosos.com/imagenes/famosos/20121002/maria-castro-0.jpg

Very Iberid/Mediterranoid proper.

[MarceloBielsa]

In Spain red hair are rare or not?

[Aviane]

In Spain red hair are rare or not?

Very very rare.

And blondes are just as rare.

You will find more Black or Dark Brown haired people than either Blond or Red haired.

You will find more Blondes and Redheads in Italy and France than Spain. :thumb001:

[Toretto]

blondes yes but reheads in italy are rare... imho.

the girl for me is atlantid, she can pass in britain

[Cristiano viejo]

Red hair and freckles aside, her facial structure is very Iberian and she doesn't look British.

http://fotos0.mundofotos.net/2009/15_03_2009/cinemastars1237112368/maria-castro.jpg
http://www.que.es/archivos/201103/hugh-grant-normal-365xXx80.jpg

Very similar facial structures... Hugh Grant is british :rolleyes:


If anything she looks more comparable to this woman:
http://daddysalbum.com/uploads/R1.4/f3d99c4c0232106778b17180485dfdc1.jpg
http://www.rankingfamosos.com/imagenes/famosos/20121002/maria-castro-0.jpg

Very Iberid/Mediterranoid proper.

Haha these two girls are just similar in that both would reject to you for ugly and by have a blue spot on your back :D


In Spain red hair are rare or not?
Same rare than Italia or France.

blondes yes but reheads in italy are rare... imho.

the girl for me is atlantid, she can pass in britain

This thread is dedicated to Aviane, which by private told me that this girl is not white.
And while saying that Milos Raonic is :picard1:, and telling that Romney is the prototype of white in America hahaha

[Damião de Góis]

Very very rare.

And blondes are just as rare.

Nope, blondes are more common than redhaired people.



You will find more Black or Dark Brown haired people than either Blond or Red haired.


True...

[Slycooper]

Can pass for Irish.

[Damião de Góis]

This thread is dedicated to Aviane, which by private told me that this girl is not white.
And while saying that Milos Raonic is :picard1:, and telling that Romney is the prototype of white in America hahaha

That's because Aviane thinks balkanoids look like brits and that iberians look like moroccans.

Like in this case:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_usO8crpF9TA/Swz_8zRDF5I/AAAAAAAABYk/pKFgle-Ol9U/s1600/imagenes_004_maria_castro_korpa_07177a1e.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

Nope, blondes are more common than redhaired people.

Blondes in Iberia are relatively common. But that know you already.

True...

Dark hair is more common than red or blonde hair in almost all Europe.

[Comte Arnau]

Redheads are rare not only in Iberia, but almost everywhere.

Maybe there's a point in that María looks Iberian because she quite ressembles one of my cousins, only that my cousin is blonde instead of red.

[Ibericus]

redhaired Atlanto-Med

[alnortedelsur]

She is from Galicia, Spain:

http://vallecasdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Mar%C3%ADa-Castro..jpg

http://www.kipling.com/wp-content/media/images/auction_es/sm_05_maria_castro.jpg

http://www.seriesadictos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/maria_castro.jpg

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Maria+Castro+David+Hasselhoff+Attends+Fuga+nVn9GPp qAHZl.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Looks like my friend's sister, they are of Scottish descent.

[alnortedelsur]

bump

[Tooting Carmen]

Depigmented Atlantid

[Armand_Duval]

Keltic/atlantid, celtiberian stocking.

[alnortedelsur]

Keltic/atlantid, celtiberian stocking.

I think keltic phenotype is absent (or almost absent) in Iberia. I am more of the opinion (like Kyle Steffan) that she is Atlantid.

She is one of those Spaniards that would pass as British (but as an Atlantid British, nothing else), since Atlantid is the main subtype that Iberians and British have in common.

Atlantid would be the main subtype (though not the only one, I think), where most of the overlap between Iberians and British Islanders, would actually take place.

PS: Iberians with a mix of Atlantid/Alpinid phenotype would also pass as British, along with maybe some other combination of subtypes that are more or less present in both human groups.

[Unome]

She's Irish.

[Armand_Duval]

I think keltic phenotype is absent (or almost absent) in Iberia. I am more of the opinion (like Kyle Steffan) that she is Atlantid.

She is one of those Spaniards that would pass as British (but as an Atlantid British, nothing else), since Atlantid is the main subtype that Iberians and British have in common.

Atlantid would be the main subtype (though not the only one, I think), where most of the overlap between Iberians and British Islanders, would actually take place.

PS: Iberians with a mix of Atlantid/Alpinid phenotype would also pass as British, along with maybe some other combination of subtypes that are more or less present in both human groups.


Maybe Im wrong but the celts and the keltic subtype are closely related so the north of iberia such as Galicia has an strong celtic influence I dont see why keltic phenotype should be absent in iberia such as the mediterranid phenoty isn't absent in great britain either.

[Gustave H]

Looks Irish or Scottish
.

[KnightlyHonor]

That first and last picture of her, she looks like a total Irish babe

[alnortedelsur]

Maybe Im wrong but the celts and the keltic subtype are closely related so the north of iberia such as Galicia has an strong celtic influence I dont see why keltic phenotype should be absent in iberia such as the mediterranid phenoty isn't absent in great britain either.

You're probably right.:thumb001: Don't pay much attention to what I said because I am not an expert on this.:redface_002:

But your reasoning makes sense. If mediterranid phenotype isn't absent in British, in the same way, there can be some Keltic Spaniards as well, which is actually a possibility that I admitted when I said "almost absent". And actually, Keltic phenotype is NOT that "absent" in those areas of Spain with stronger Celtic influence, like the Cantabrian coast (including Galicia).

PS: though actually Celtic heritage is nowadays present to a bigger or lesser degree in all Iberians, due to the campaigns of repopulation of all southern regions that took place after the Reconquista. That's why Iberians are relatively homogeneous, but that's another issue.

[alnortedelsur]

She's Irish.

NOPE. She is a fully ethnic Spaniard, believe it or not.

[alnortedelsur]

Looks Irish or Scottish
.

And however, she is fully Spanish.

[alnortedelsur]

That first and last picture of her, she looks like a total Irish babe

Now you can figure out how funny look to me, and to other ethnic Iberians, those people who take as a "blasphemy" when somebody says that Spaniards (and Portuguese) do have some overlap with British Islanders.

Redheads like her are between 2-3% of ethnic Iberians. And if we add Iberians with some degree of reddish flashes in their hair (without necessarily being redhead propers), then, the Iberians with at least some minor degree of red hair tone (reddish flashes), added up with the 2-3% of redhead propers, would make up, altogether, about 7% of ethnic Iberians.

[Hadouken]

Brunn

[Hithaeglir]

Brunn.

[Armand_Duval]

You're probably right.:thumb001: Don't pay much attention to what I said because I am not an expert on this.:redface_002:

But your reasoning makes sense. If mediterranid phenotype isn't absent in British, in the same way, there can be some Keltic Spaniards as well, which is actually a possibility that I admitted when I said "almost absent". And actually, Keltic phenotype is NOT that "absent" in those areas of Spain with stronger Celtic influence, like the Cantabrian coast (including Galicia).

PS: though actually Celtic heritage is nowadays present to a bigger or lesser degree in all Iberians, due to the campaigns of repopulation of all southern regions that took place after the Reconquista. That's why Iberians are relatively homogeneous, but that's another issue.


The regions that share cultural celtic elements now a days are scotlan Ireland the French Bretagne and the north of spain, Galicia, Asturias, Cantabria, it is not by coincidence they show similar cultural elements such as the bagpipes and even phenotypically, look at the woman you posted, how easy she could pass in scotlan and ireland, that isnt just by coincidence.

Take a look at some of the phenotypes of these ppl in Cantabria.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?37555-Cantabrian-Iberian-phenotypes

[TCDA1986]

She is a Celt.

[Brzęczyszczykiewiczówna]

Alpine/Atlantid.

[harmonique]

She looks very much like Amy Adams.
http://resimler.mobi/wp-content/uploads/amy-adams-8.jpg
http://desktopict.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/amy-adams-wallpaper-9.jpg
http://okurakeyf.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/amy-adams-7.jpg

[aimar]

She looks very much like Amy Adams.


that one looks northern euro, Maria doesn't.
The difference is obvious, at least to me.

[Rædwald]

Brunn

[Peikko]

She looks very much like Amy Adams.
http://resimler.mobi/wp-content/uploads/amy-adams-8.jpg
http://desktopict.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/amy-adams-wallpaper-9.jpg
http://okurakeyf.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/amy-adams-7.jpg

Amy Adams looks more nordoid.

[Lusos]

The regions that share cultural celtic elements now a days are scotlan Ireland the French Bretagne and the north of spain, Galicia, Asturias, Cantabria, it is not by coincidence they show similar cultural elements such as the bagpipes and even phenotypically, look at the woman you posted, how easy she could pass in scotlan and ireland, that isnt just by coincidence.

Take a look at some of the phenotypes of these ppl in Cantabria.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?37555-Cantabrian-Iberian-phenotypes

Bagpipes are Celtic ?

[Peikko]

Bagpipes are Celtic ?

Not at all:

"The evidence for Roman and pre-Roman era bagpipes is still uncertain but several textual and visual clues have been suggested. The Oxford History of Music says that a sculpture of bagpipes has been found on a Hittite slab at Euyuk in the Middle East, dated to 1000 BC. In the 2nd century AD, Suetonius described the Roman emperor Nero as a player of the tibia utricularis.[2] Dio Chrysostom wrote in the 1st century of a contemporary sovereign (possibly Nero) who could play a pipe (tibia, Roman reedpipes similar to Greek aulos) with his mouth as well as with his armpit"

They didn't use bagpipes in Scotland until 15th or 16th century.

[Styrian Mujo]

Looks Anglo-Celtic.

[alnortedelsur]

Amy Adams looks more nordoid.

I totally agree with this.:thumb001:

[Merida]

Her Celtic roots definitely show.

[King Claus]

Just one of those iberian celts that isn't too contaminated by african blood.

[Guapo]

Her Celtic roots definitely show.

Does she color her hair?

[Instinct]

Celtic

[Guapo]

Fidel's daughter.

[Guapo]

She looks very much like Amy Adams.

http://okurakeyf.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/amy-adams-7.jpg

Oh Amy...

[Merida]

Does she color her hair?

Definitely!! Can't you tell?? xD

[Guapo]

Definitely!! Can't you tell?? xD

I cant say it....

[Empecinado]

:picard2:

Redhead =/= Celtic. All Galicians descend from 50 different Celtic tribes and redheads there are a minority.

[Merida]

I cant say it....

:love0031:

[Neon Knight]

It just shows how much colouring can influence perception of nationality. I bet she has some close relatives who are rather dark.

[Guapo]

Oh Amy...

[alnortedelsur]

Looks Anglo-Celtic.

Redheads are NOT exclusively present in "undoubtedly celtic" countries like Ireland or Scotland.

[aimar]

celtic roots :picard2:
so many clichés

light iberian, must be celtic
dark iberian, must be moor

[Damião de Góis]

Well, celtic languages died out everywhere except in parts of the British Isles. So, with some propaganda in the mix, they became the celts. They happen to have a sizeable redhead population so that became the reference for how celts should look like. I once even read that being a violent drunk was a celtic trait, in reference to british hooligans.

[alnortedelsur]

She is a Celt.

ALL SPANIARDS have Celtic heritage. That's why Spaniards and Portuguese are Celtiberians. Being redhead doesn't make her "particularly more celtic" compared to other Spaniards.

[Lusos]

Not at all:

"The evidence for Roman and pre-Roman era bagpipes is still uncertain but several textual and visual clues have been suggested. The Oxford History of Music says that a sculpture of bagpipes has been found on a Hittite slab at Euyuk in the Middle East, dated to 1000 BC. In the 2nd century AD, Suetonius described the Roman emperor Nero as a player of the tibia utricularis.[2] Dio Chrysostom wrote in the 1st century of a contemporary sovereign (possibly Nero) who could play a pipe (tibia, Roman reedpipes similar to Greek aulos) with his mouth as well as with his armpit"

They didn't use bagpipes in Scotland until 15th or 16th century.

I know mate.Thanks anyway.

It's just that everyone else seems to associate the presence of bagpipes as something Celt (AKA From the Brit Isles)

[TCDA1986]

ALL SPANIARDS have Celtic heritage. That's why Spaniards and Portuguese are Celtiberians. Being redhead doesn't make her "particularly more celtic" compared to other Spaniards.


What I mean to say, is she has a celtic looking phenotype.

I don't know why people get angry about this, did I miss some "issue" that Spanish have about being classified as Celts? :/ I would say this if she is from Spain, Ireland, Croatia or China, because it is her phenotype.

Or "classify" means only "Keltic Nordid" "Atlantid" "West Med" and all those bullshit old terms.:rolleyes2:

[Hithaeglir]

Brunn.

[Raikaswinþs]

atlantid

[armenianbodyhair]

atlantid

[alnortedelsur]

What I mean to say, is she has a celtic looking phenotype.

I don't know why people get angry about this, did I miss some "issue" that Spanish have about being classified as Celts? :/ I would say this if she is from Spain, Ireland, Croatia or China, because it is her phenotype.

Or "classify" means only "Keltic Nordid" "Atlantid" "West Med" and all those bullshit old terms.:rolleyes2:

Don't worry. I was not mad at you. I was just making a clarification. :thumb001:

[TCDA1986]

Don't worry. I was not mad at you. I was just making a clarification. :thumb001:

ok cool

my clarification: I call my phenotype as "Celtic" because I believe it is the best description for the indigenous ppl of NW Europe from Britain to Ireland to Galicia, who also emigrated further eg parts of Italy.

This does not mean my DNA is pure Celtic probably it is only minority Celt. I describe the phenotype only.


I believe "Atlantid" was never a real group in history, much less a race (though Cletic was not a race but a stabilized blend), neither "Keltic Nordid", tis is why I don't use those terms. Maybe I am crazy though everyone can have their opinion.:thumb001:

[alnortedelsur]

:bump2:

[alnortedelsur]

bump

[Antimage]

Blondes in Iberia are relatively common. But that know you already.


Dark hair is more common than red or blonde hair in almost all Europe.

blondes in iberia are relatively rare. Iberia has the least % of blonde hair in europe

[Damião de Góis]

blondes in iberia are relatively rare.

It's neither relatively common nor relatively rare.


Iberia has the least % of blonde hair in europe

What is the source for this statement?

[Cristiano viejo]

blondes in iberia are relatively rare. Iberia has the least % of blonde hair in europe
Blondes are relatively rare in most of Europe.
Iberia has the low percentage of blondes in Europe only in your head.

[alnortedelsur]

blondes in iberia are relatively rare. Iberia has the least % of blonde hair in europe

Blonds in Iberia are not typical, but they are NOT uncommon either.

And I would not be that sure about Iberia having the least percentage of blondes in all Europe. I am sure the rate of blondism in Iberia is higher than in southern Italy, Malta and Greece.

Iberia is more or less on par with Central Italy, and most of the Balkans, and not that far from southern France and Northern Italy, regarding the rates of blondism and light eyes. Indeed, most of the northern half of Iberia must be on par (or almost on par) with Northern Italy and Southern France.

The only pigmentation difference between Iberia and Northern/Central Italy, is that there is some more presence of platinum-blonds in Northern and Central Italy, compared to Iberia, but there is a bit higher percentage of Gingers in Iberia, compared to Central and Northern Italy.

[Deneb]

She is from Galicia (NW Spain), where redhair is not that uncommon although not frequent. Of course, in southern/central/easten Spain is extremely unusual.
Pan atlantid look.