Bulgarians vs Bulgarian Turks

[Archduke]

I've got the idea of for thread from feufrei, sorry. :D

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http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/309456_114333522045646_672132416_n.jpg

2.

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/488110_488359091175885_1656820815_n.jpg

3.

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/523290_504211149608632_978233614_n.jpg

4.

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/60192_346994865394004_1390961435_n.jpg

5.

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/554823_223350274451738_845991663_n.jpg

6.

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251826_444669622240544_322984120_n.jpg


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http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421602_4147959149587_883228384_n.jpg

8.

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/523630_467138519997000_899031205_n.jpg

9.

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577134_448360021882815_76637546_n.jpg

10.

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531099_404109029650346_1159430888_n.jpg

[Trun]

This is much harder than any of mine. We should make one "Bulgarian Turks vs Anatolian Turks" for Turkish trolls to see the contrast :D

Random guesses:

Bulgarians - 3, 6, 7, 9, 10.

[Archduke]

This is much harder than any of mine. We should make one "Bulgarian Turks vs Anatolian Turks" for Turkish trolls to see the contrast :D

Random guesses:

Bulgarians - 3, 6, 7, 9, 10.

6/10 :D

[Anatolian Eagle]

1. Bulgarian
2. Bulgarian Turk
3. Bulgarian
4. Bulgarian
5. Bulgarian Turk
6. Bulgarian
7. Bulgarian Turk
8. Bulgarian Turk
9. Bulgarian
10. Bulgarian Turk

[Archduke]

1. Bulgarian
2. Bulgarian Turk
3. Bulgarian
4. Bulgarian
5. Bulgarian Turk
6. Bulgarian
7. Bulgarian Turk
8. Bulgarian Turk
9. Bulgarian
10. Bulgarian Turk

4/10

[MfA_]

1 Turkish
2 Bulgarian
3 Bulgarian
4 too away
5 Bulgarian
6 Turkish
7 Turkish
8 Turkish
9 Turkish
10 Bulgarian

[Archduke]

1 Turkish
2 Bulgarian
3 Bulgarian
4 too away
5 Bulgarian
6 Turkish
7 Turkish
8 Turkish
9 Turkish
10 Bulgarian

7/10

[Anatolian Eagle]

I probably mistook 9 and 10, I'm not sure about the rest.

[kabeiros]

Imposible to say who is a Turk and who is a Bulgar (after all Bulgars are Turks)

[Archduke]

Imposible to say who is a Turk and who is a Bulgar (after all Bulgars are Turks)

Better than being Ethiopians.

[kabeiros]

Ethiopia rules!!!!

[Archduke]

Ethiopia rules!!!!

Go back there then.

[bimo]

1 bulgarian turk
2 bulgarian turk
3 bulgarian
4 bulgarian
5 bulgarian
6 bulgarian turk
7 bulgarian turk
8 bulgarian
9 bulgarian turk
10 bulgarian

[Archduke]

1 bulgarian turk
2 bulgarian turk
3 bulgarian
4 bulgarian
5 bulgarian
6 bulgarian turk
7 bulgarian turk
8 bulgarian
9 bulgarian turk
10 bulgarian

6/10

[mysticism]

It's really hard to tell, they all look Bulgarian.

[kabeiros]

Go back there then.
If you go back to Volga or Mongolia

[bimo]

number 2 don't look bulgarian to me

[Archduke]

If you go back to Volga or Mongolia

I like Bulgaria, so i'll stay here. You are the one who said Ethiopia rules.

Go now.

[MfA_]

number 2 don't look bulgarian to me

http://www.abload.de/img/its-a-trapuhrn5.jpg

[Archduke]

Bulgarians - 2, 3, 5, 6, 10

Turks - 1, 4, 7, 8, 9

[Pecheneg]

2,4,7,8,10 - Turks



This is much harder than any of mine. We should make one "Bulgarian Turks vs Anatolian Turks" for Turkish trolls to see the contrast :D

Have you heard something called "mixing"? Turks of Bulgaria have been living there for ~600 years. But still the overwhelming majority of them can pass in my country.
I've said this many times. But again; There were many other Turkish clans in anatolia (such as Karamanids) who were defeated by the Ottoman clan and imported to the Balkans (especially to bulgaria).


In addition to voluntary migrations, the Ottoman authorities used mass deportations (sürgün) as a method of control over potentially rebellious elements in the Balkans and in Anatolia. Far away form their home bases, the potential threat of such elements was considerably reduced as in the case of the followers of the rebellious Karamani Pir Ahmed. Tribal resistance was followed by large-scale transfers of Karamanid Türkmen nomads to Rumelia. Deportations in both directions occurred throughout the fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth centuries.[43]



and pre-Ottoman Turkish migration to balkans

According to early Ottoman historical compilations and translations of Ibn Bibi’s History of the Seljuq Sultanate of Rum a well founded account is presented of Turkish immigration from Anatolia to Dobruja. Ibn Bibi’s historical memoirs cover the period 1192-1281 well before Ottoman rule over the Balkans. The work of Ibn Bibi finished in 1281 and was written in Persian for one of the last Rum Seljuk Sultans Kaykhusraw III. In his Turkish translation called the Oghuzname Yazicioğlu Ali describes how Seljuk Turk troops joined their Sultan 'Izz al-Din Kayka'us II (Kaykaus II) to help the Byzantine Emperor Michael VIII Palaiologos in his military campaigns.[35] It is thought that during this campaign Seljuks settled in Dobruja.[36] This migration of Anatolian Turks to Dobruja and their mystic leader Sari Saltik is also described in the works of Ibn Battuta and Evliya Çelebi.[37] According to sources these Seljuk Turks settled in area of Dobruja along the Black Sea coast in the borderland between what is now Bulgaria and their furthest outpost Babadag situated in Northern Dobruja.[38][39][40][41]



and there is also significant genetic difference between Turks of Bulgaria and Bulgarians. Phenotype does not match with genetics at all times.



This community is of Turkish ethnic consciousness and differs from the majority Bulgarian ethnicity and the rest of the Bulgarian nation by its own language, religion, culture, customs, and traditions. DNA research investigating the three largest population groups in Bulgaria: Bulgarians, Bulgarian Turks and Gypsies confirms with Y-chromosomal STR haplotype analysis that there are significant differences between the three ethnic groups. The study revealed a high number of population-specific haplotypes and a low degree of haplotype sharing between the three ethnic communities.[16]

^ B.Zaharova, S. Andonovaa, A.Gilissenb, J.Cassimanb, R.Decorteb, I. Kremenskya: “Y-chromosomal STR haplotypes in three major population groups in Bulgaria” 2001 Sofia-Bulgaria, Leuven-Belgium

[Numenorean]

all can pass unnoticed here in Turkey