PDA

View Full Version : Pro- and anti-gay protesters clash in Paris



microrobert
11-18-2012, 05:35 PM
Pro- and anti-gay protesters clash in Paris

The controversial Ukrainian group Femen, whose topless members stage pranks to support gay rights, have taunted a march in Paris by Catholics who oppose France's draft law to legalize gay marriage.

The Catholic group Civitas organized Sunday's march by several thousand people carrying pro-family banners.

Several Femen activists turned up topless, chanted "in gay we trust" and sprayed white powder from bottles.

That prompted several anti-gay marriage protesters to hit the Femen members and push them to the ground.

On Saturday several thousand people took to the streets in cities across France to protest the draft law, which could see marriage and adoption legalized for homosexual couples early next year.

http://www.wgme.com/template/inews_wire/wires.international/314cea29-www.wgme.com.shtml


vqUbPAmFPKg

Hayalet
11-18-2012, 06:11 PM
Hilarious video, everything is so random. :lol:

SKYNET
11-18-2012, 06:17 PM
lol don't get me wrong, but where is a democracy?

Dandelion
11-18-2012, 06:22 PM
How high was the percentage of Muslims among the anti-gay protesters?

papa diddy pop
11-18-2012, 06:26 PM
lol l'homofolie xD haha le jeux de mot .


Well those girls should have been in the kitchen instead of manifesting . that's what happen they leave it .


In a more serious note: that what happen when you do too much provocation(the girls kissing each other with naked boobs) and even if i don't approve the crow beaten up the girls.

Dandelion
11-18-2012, 06:28 PM
People get on the street acting clownish and the Russian press helps us with material to enjoy over a great bowl of popcorn?

Fortis in Arduis
11-18-2012, 06:31 PM
Well, I am happy to just have a Civil Partnership, it really helped me settle down in life.

The idea that some random women would go topless and attack a bunch of stuffy Catholics so that I could get 'married' is amusing, but actually I support the Catholics because I do not want to offend people, and I do not need and did not need to 'marry' my (same-sex) partner in a fucking church anyway!

I do not know why these people are asking for the changes in the law to do this.

EDIT: I am not even sure that many people are. It is the agenda at work again.

papa diddy pop
11-18-2012, 06:31 PM
People get on the street acting clownish and the Russian press helps us with material to enjoy over a great bowl of popcorn?

it's to prove they're that "riot" is not only common in russia in europe.;)

microrobert
11-19-2012, 06:13 AM
http://citizenside-cache.citizenside.com/fr/photos/politique/2012-11-18/71229/derapages-lors-de-la-manifestation/all_fullscreen/612191-p1450428.jpg

Óttar
11-19-2012, 06:41 AM
http://citizenside-cache.citizenside.com/fr/photos/politique/2012-11-18/71229/derapages-lors-de-la-manifestation/all_fullscreen/612191-p1450428.jpg
vNcgTMpcgn0

microrobert
11-19-2012, 11:56 AM
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/288217femencivitaspoussette.png

Femen send gaz on a baby:mad:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/85053081175552o.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/8906292331565jbq4924.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/524364femengas2.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/692307hoodedmen1.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/444702femengas4.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/494926articlefemenbim.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/19536119bgcl.jpg

Fortis in Arduis
11-19-2012, 02:38 PM
Actually microrobert (I swallowed when I wrote that. Why did you choose such a name? It reminds me of micropenis.) FEMEN were spraying powder fire extinguishers with 'SPERM' written on the canister, but if you look at picture six, the man is quite clearly spraying CS gas, which, as I am sure you know, is widely available in France...

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/444702femengas4.jpg

It all seems too much that naked women wearing nuns' habits should be protesting for my right to 'marry' in a church, and they are sending out the wrong messages anyway:

In Gay We Trust:

Who really trusts in Gay, except when they are having their hair done? :o
I have a friend who says, "All Queens are Thieves!" and she is right! :tongue

Fuck Church:

Who wants to "fuck" church? Church is responsible for the nice things in life, like the holy festivals and helping and praying for the poor sick and elderly, and for stable marriages and family life and dignity in death.

This protest is unwarranted and very extreme and but it is a reflection of France's extreme secularism.

I shall protest against gay marriage if it happens in the UK, because I am perfectly happy with my Civil Partnership, and I do not believe in creating the homo-normative world of 'gay' everything and so forth.

Mortimer
11-19-2012, 02:41 PM
i didnt expected such behaviour from catholic french i thought they are gay pussies themselfes, but im positively surprised.:D

Flintlocke
11-19-2012, 02:42 PM
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/288217femencivitaspoussette.png

Femen send gaz on a baby:mad:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/85053081175552o.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/8906292331565jbq4924.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/524364femengas2.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/692307hoodedmen1.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/444702femengas4.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/494926articlefemenbim.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/19536119bgcl.jpg



Somebody put these bitches on a leash. Or bring back uncle Stalin, he'd know how to deal with them.

Mraz
11-19-2012, 02:49 PM
OMG this looks like Postal.
Femen are raw meat, nothing else.

The Lawspeaker
11-19-2012, 02:52 PM
Well done to the French Catholics. :thumb001:

Atlas
11-19-2012, 02:53 PM
i didnt expected such behaviour from catholic french i thought they are gay pussies themselfes, but im positively surprised.:D

What about you being a virgin-gypsy troll on a European preservation forum spending your life here... asking for dating advice and stuff ? how's that for being a pussy ?

The Lawspeaker
11-19-2012, 02:54 PM
What about you being a virgin-gypsy troll on a European preservation forum spending your life here... asking for dating advice and stuff ? how's that for being a pussy ?

Just ignore it, mon ami, just ignore it. You're the better one here. :)

antonio
11-19-2012, 02:56 PM
i didnt expected such behaviour from catholic french i thought they are gay pussies themselfes, but im positively surprised.:D

France has a very distorted image outside. There're many decent old-fashioned people in France, even in dispise of their old and reputed educative brainwashing into phony modernities.

Ps. I dont consider it was an antigay protest, just a anti gay marriage one, ridiculous name purposelly conceived to annoy the righteous ones. Anycase Femen activists are always wellcome, specially if they're to be at the other side.:D

Flintlocke
11-19-2012, 03:15 PM
Damn whores think that by flashing their tits around and being "shocking" they're doing something special. They're only doing something stupid and degenerate. You wanna do something special? How bout designing a bridge, or an engine, or being a good mother, or supporting a friend in need, or getting off drugs and booze, or climbing a mountain, or overcoming adversity, or...

antonio
11-19-2012, 03:53 PM
You wanna do something special? How bout designing a bridge, or an engine, or being a good mother, or supporting a friend in need, or getting off drugs and booze, or climbing a mountain, or overcoming adversity, or...

To be special today is to look cool like a cunt or a whore. At least this is the fucking message from corporations.

Graus
11-19-2012, 04:12 PM
Good for them. I have a hard time feeling sorry for feminazis when they get what they asked for; not hitting them for the sole reason of them being female would be sexist after all.

Virtuous
11-19-2012, 04:20 PM
Well at least I had a good laugh.

microrobert
11-19-2012, 04:44 PM
Actually microrobert (I swallowed when I wrote that. Why did you choose such a name? It reminds me of micropenis.)


No mystery, it's only my dictionnary

http://www.dicoland.com/fr/picproduct/4_normal.jpg



FEMEN were spraying powder fire extinguishers with 'SPERM' written on the canister, but if you look at picture six, the man is quite clearly spraying CS gas, which, as I am sure you know, is widely available in France...


Yes, but it was a small one :D


Why Femen don't attack the saturday's demonstration?

Because, the sunday's demonstration was organized by the institut Civitas
(Integrist catholics, in France that means (for the medias) extremists)

They attacked these Catholics (not a good idea) :D

They thought that the catholics would not dare to defend face has half-nude women :D

But these Catholics weren't sheep :thumb001:

They learned their lesson!

And they also learned how to run… quickly :D



http://citizenside-cache.citizenside.com/fr/photos/politique/2012-11-18/71229/derapages-lors-de-la-manifestation/all_fullscreen/612191-p1450428.jpg

FRANCE needs Children, no homosexuals!

SKYNET
11-19-2012, 05:40 PM
I wonder, which country are they from?

Geni
11-19-2012, 05:45 PM
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/288217femencivitaspoussette.png

Femen send gaz on a baby:mad:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/85053081175552o.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/8906292331565jbq4924.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/524364femengas2.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/692307hoodedmen1.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/444702femengas4.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/494926articlefemenbim.jpg

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/19536119bgcl.jpg



YES...:thumb001:

Minesweeper
11-19-2012, 05:49 PM
Gays are only increasing the level of ''homophobia'' in the society with such actions. At least something positive from those mentally ill idiots.

SKYNET
11-19-2012, 06:06 PM
anyway, they are not welcome in the western countries.

antonio
11-19-2012, 07:44 PM
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/494926articlefemenbim.jpg
[/CENTER]

I must confess I like the one at our left, in dispise of her hideous banner about fucking church, or maybe she's just telling about fucking someone belonging to the church, so, for the due information: Im baptized and confirmed in RomanCatholic faith. :cool:

Harry Potter
11-19-2012, 08:08 PM
Didn't understood the story very well, but I openly support same-gender marriage. Despite I don't believe marriage is a good thing, in case we allow it, lets allow it equally for all.

Fortis in Arduis
11-19-2012, 11:15 PM
Didn't understood the story very well, but I openly support same-gender marriage. Despite I don't believe marriage is a good thing, in case we allow it, lets allow it equally for all.

I neither needed nor wanted to 'marry' my same-sex partner in a church.

It goes against thousands of years of Christian tradition and is highly provocative, and I do not believe in 'equality', because it does not exist in nature.

Marriage is a good thing, because it is fair, and gives life partners equal legal protection and that is why I had a Civil Partnership and it was the best thing I ever did.

I have enjoyed a relatively stable relationship ever since, without the need to go to a church and offend Christians. :rolleyes:

kabeiros
11-19-2012, 11:32 PM
Exactly, Fortis. There is no need for gays to get married in a church, they only want to provoke christians

Harry Potter
11-20-2012, 01:29 AM
I neither needed nor wanted to 'marry' my same-sex partner in a church.

It goes against thousands of years of Christian tradition and is highly provocative, and I do not believe in 'equality', because it does not exist in nature.

Marriage is a good thing, because it is fair, and gives life partners equal legal protection and that is why I had a Civil Partnership and it was the best thing I ever did.

I have enjoyed a relatively stable relationship ever since, without the need to go to a church and offend Christians. :rolleyes:

What are you retarded or something?

1-Getting married doesn't necessary mean to get marry on a church. No homosexual ever has pretended the churches to allow him to get married in them. Marriage is a civil right and can and should be only practiced in civil institutions like the municipality(town hall) etc.

2-It goes against thousands of years of Christian tradition? Hindus, Muslims, atheists and others should stop getting married now because some Flat Earth Society Christians doesn't like it? You realize that marriage wasn't made up by the church, right? It has existed thousand of years ago before some dudes on crack wrote the bible.

3-Who cares if it's provocative to the Christians that homosexuals are getting married? It's provocative to the Muslims that the Christians are getting married, should we stop the Christians from getting married?

4-Who cares if you don't believe in 'equality', it does exist. We're just humans, Whites, Blacks, Yellows, Mixed, Albinos, heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, pansexuals, asexuals, monogamous, polygamous, religious, irreligious, theists, atheists, males, females, intergenders, transgenders, tall, medium height, short, very short, young, middle aged, old, leftists, centrists, rightists and so on...

Intelligence is not based on any of these factors, but just on personal intellect, personal! Therefore we're all equal, all!

5-Marriage is fair, how is it? Isn't love the reason why you're getting married in first place(or get a civil union)? Then can you possible define love as a piece of paper that you sign with the mayor or the local cleric? It's disgusting, true love cannot be defined on a piece of paper, you don't need any contract to show how much you care for someone. Contracts were for slaves not for free men.

6-Again, no one can possible force the church/mosque etc. to practice same-gender marriage. With this I guess I just proved not only that you're not a homosexual, but even that you got no clue about what homosexuals are looking for. You're just a Christian troll. Your arguments dismiss themselves.

Guapo
11-20-2012, 01:34 AM
What are you retarded or something?

1-Getting married doesn't necessary mean to get marry on a church. No homosexual ever has pretended the churches to allow him to get married in them. Marriage is a civil right and can and should be only practiced in civil institutions like the municipality(town hall) etc.

2-It goes against thousands of years of Christian tradition? Hindus, Muslims, atheists and others should stop getting married now because some Flat Earth Society Christians doesn't like it? You realize that marriage wasn't made up by the church, right? It has existed thousand of years ago before some dudes on crack wrote the bible.

3-Who cares if it's provocative to the Christians that homosexuals are getting married? It's provocative to the Muslims that the Christians are getting married, should we stop the Christians from getting married?

4-Who cares if you don't believe in 'equality', it does exist. We're just humans, Whites, Blacks, Yellows, Mixed, Albinos, heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, pansexuals, asexuals, monogamous, polygamous, religious, irreligious, theists, atheists, males, females, intergenders, transgenders, tall, medium height, short, very short, young, middle aged, old, leftists, centrists, rightists and so on...

Intelligence is not based on any of these factors, but just on personal intellect, personal! Therefore we're all equal, all!

5-Marriage is fair, how is it? Isn't love the reason why you're getting married in first place(or get a civil union)? Then can you possible define love as a piece of paper that you sign with the mayor or the local cleric? It's disgusting, true love cannot be defined on a piece of paper, you don't need any contract to show how much you care for someone. Contracts were for slaves not for free men.

6-Again, no one can possible force the church/mosque etc. to practice same-gender marriage. With this I guess I just proved not only that you're not a homosexual, but even that you got no clue about what homosexuals are looking for. You're just a Christian troll. Your arguments dismiss themselves.

You're an albanian troll, so what?

Harry Potter
11-20-2012, 01:45 AM
You're an albanian troll, so what?

I'm an Albanian troll, why? Because you say so?

I try hard to formulate my answers. I try hard to be respectful, I try hard to ignore real trolls like you. Do you at least know what a troll is? It's a person like you, half of your answers are pure spam, insults, provocations of any type, absurd accusations of trolling just like this etc.

You're just wasting the space that the forum have, your posts are garbage, your mind is garbage. And you're almost all the damn time off-topic. Can't you get a life? Can't someone ban you for a while, at least 24 hours so you relax a little bit. You should thing more before you express yourself. You know that saying:

we have two eyes and one mouth, to see twice before we speak once,
we have two ears and one mouth, to hear twice before we speak once,
we have almost two of every thing but one mouth, so we check twice anything before we open our goddamn mouth and say something premature and stupid, just what you do the whole damn time. Grow up!

Fortis in Arduis
11-20-2012, 01:48 AM
With this I guess I just proved not only that you're not a homosexual, but even that you got no clue about what homosexuals are looking for. You're just a Christian troll. Your arguments dismiss themselves.

I am homosexual and I am not a Christian.

You are just upset because I do not follow your agenda, which is aggressively secularist.

Go topless somewhere and shout about it. :thumb001:

The impending laws would force religious institutions to accept same-sex marriage, as they would be prosecuted for refusing to do so.

This shit has gone far enough.

You dislike religion, we get it. ;)

Guapo
11-20-2012, 01:51 AM
I'm an Albanian troll, why? Because you say so?


You spew hatred towards Serbs, you're a lame albanian troll

Harry Potter
11-20-2012, 02:03 AM
I am homosexual

I can see that, is a very common thing for homosexuals to ask for their rights to be removed.


and I am not a Christian.

The bible says kill the homosexuals, I guess you can't be both.


You are just upset

I'm not, I'm extremely calm by nature.


because I do not follow your agenda,

Since I'm not trying to impose anything on anyone, I can't really have an agenda. Your local church have an agenda and you're part of it, you're fulfilling their homophobic agenda.


which is aggressively secularist.

Oh yes I missed that, posting something on a forum is being aggressive, mass murdering atheists of millenias is a "religious right".


Go topless somewhere and shout about it.

I'm a man, even if I would go topless, no one would get scandalized, I've done it before everywhere, stadiums, beach, soccer match etc. I don't scream around, I don't need to, reason doesn't need to be screamed, stupidity does.


The impending laws would force religious institutions to accept same-sex marriage, as they would be prosecuted for refusing to do so.

This shit has gone far enough.

You dislike religion, we get it.

Show me one unique reference that a homosexual ever has pretended to force religious institutions to practice same-gender marriage?

Homosexuals are just asking same-gender marriage to be recognized by the constitution just like man-woman marriage is recognized.

And last but not least, I do not dislike religion(which of the 2000 of them still practiced?). I like freedom, and religions with no exclusions are trying to take it away from humanity. As long as they keep doing this they have a problem with me.


You spew hatred towards Serbs, you're a lame albanian troll

Sure, denouncing crimes against the humanity caused by the Serbs, means to spew hate against them. But when you offend every Albanian on the face of Earth, that's just fine.

And I am the troll...

Guapo
11-20-2012, 02:12 AM
Sure, denouncing crimes against the humanity caused by the Serbs, means to spew hate against them. But when you offend every Albanian on the face of Earth, that's just fine.

And I am the troll...

You need to chill out, nobody's buying your act here.

Fortis in Arduis
11-20-2012, 02:23 AM
I can see that, is a very common thing for homosexuals to ask for their rights to be removed.

Queen pleaze... I am in a Civil Partnership with Sinbad (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?u=3969).

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk294/fortis28/AD2B10DB-orig-1.jpg


The bible says kill the homosexuals, I guess you can't be both.

Does it really? I was not aware of that. Could you provide a reference for that? My father is a Christian priest and he never wanted to murder me for being homosexual, although I remember lots of left-wing atheist scum teachers calling me out at school because of my family background. :lightbul:


Since I'm not trying to impose anything on anyone, I can't really have an agenda. Your local church have an agenda and you're part of it, you're fulfilling their homophobic agenda.

Bull. The religious people are fully aware that the law will be used against them, and that is why they are protesting for their religious freedom.


Oh yes I missed that, posting something on a forum is being aggressive, mass murdering atheists of millenias is a "religious right".

That is irrelevant.


Homosexuals are just asking same-gender marriage to be recognized by the constitution just like man-woman marriage is recognized.

Well, this homosexual is not, because I neither wish nor need to copy heterosexual culture, and I do not want to be 'equal', because I happen to be proud of my difference, and my nice, non-offensive Civil Partnership. Deal with it. :)

Harry Potter
11-20-2012, 02:59 AM
That is irrelevant.

Killing people for not being Christians is irrelevant, here you prove what kind of person you are.


Well, this homosexual is not, because I neither wish nor need to copy heterosexual culture, and I do not want to be 'equal', because I happen to be proud of my difference, and my nice, non-offensive Civil Partnership. Deal with it.

Marriage was not invented by heterosexuals nor for heterosexuals, especially not from Christians.

Suck on it:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20%3A13&version=KJV

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Your father is a preacher but he's not trying to kill you? What do you think he cares about the bible or Christianity? He just cares about the money that the people donate, hey it's just a business. How many people in his congregation doesn't give at least 10% of their annual income to the church? :D Zero, those who don't pay are kicked out, it is just a business...

Kelta
11-20-2012, 03:39 AM
You can go on and blame the Christians and their morals BUT it comes down to one rational and reasonable explanation for marriage -reproduction. You cannot really argue differently than looking at what it is -biology and science. In fact gays sometimes refer to heterosexuals as the "breeders." It is hard to argue against the male and female dance to reproduce an offspring. You can't do it unless you use artificial reproductive treatment, just current technology. I agree that many gays don't want to push and test Christians and other faiths. I have not read one ancient society that married gays or joined them together in some religious union (even before Christianity); however they did accept them within the community sharing same households. I think it comes down to votes, money, lawsuits and force. Any gay couple can write a will to protect their assets, inheritance, and do medical directives to protect their partner. So why even bother with marriage?

antonio
11-20-2012, 05:18 AM
Well, this homosexual is not, because I neither wish nor need to copy heterosexual culture, and I do not want to be 'equal', because I happen to be proud of my difference, and my nice, non-offensive Civil Partnership. Deal with it. :)

But you should understand that Civil Partneship of UK is not fair at all, it goes clearly against the AtheistIntegrism hidden global agenda of outraging Christianity. :D

Fortis in Arduis
11-20-2012, 07:26 AM
Killing people for not being Christians is irrelevant, here you prove what kind of person you are.

You sound like such a bitter faggot here. :o


Marriage was not invented by heterosexuals nor for heterosexuals, especially not from Christians.

Well, that is fine, so long as legal changes do not encroach on the Christian definition of marriage, and the religious rights of Christians.


Suck on it:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+20%3A13&version=KJV

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Your father is a preacher but he's not trying to kill you? What do you think he cares about the bible or Christianity? He just cares about the money that the people donate, hey it's just a business. How many people in his congregation doesn't give at least 10% of their annual income to the church? :D Zero, those who don't pay are kicked out, it is just a business...

The Church of England have a massive property portfolio, and people no longer have to pay compulsory 'tithes', although there are some generous people who donate money.

You are very rude indeed. My father is very serious about Jesus, the book, and his example. He gets up every single day to say Matins on his own, and his ministry has included homosexuals and transgendered people. He lives his whole life to help other people. Much of his time is spent ministering to the sick, giving them communion in their homes, and just visiting them.

It is a going concern, but money has never been his primary motivation, and when I was growing up he chose some very undesirable deprived parishes. He is a very committed Christian, who has always helped the poor wherever we have been. He set up an entirely secular organisation to assist the poor in an area with 19% unemployment where the local politicians and council had done precisely nothing! You are a rude arrogant shit!

I am sure that secular humanists can do this as well, but do they, and why would they? Humanist meetings I have attended have usually been infested with ex-Orthodox Jews, Marxists and other materialists more interested in bashing religion than doing anything useful. :shrug:

Kelta: Why bother with marriage?

Civil Unions are a means of securing the relationship and making a lifelong commitment. It is a one stop shop document honouring that commitment and no less than a heterosexual marriage.

In the UK Civil Partnerships are a marriage in all but name, and that is why I do not give so much as a scybalum about "gay" marriage.

I am "married" to my partner, but I just do not feel the need to copy or encroach upon potentially offensive territory occupied by Holy Matrimony etc.

That is fair, but for this I am called a "Christian troll". :rolleyes:

zlakopistou
11-20-2012, 07:46 AM
How high was the percentage of Muslims among the anti-gay protesters?

Except for the disgusting city of Paris, I'd say close to 0%.

Harry Potter
11-20-2012, 12:13 PM
You can go on and blame the Christians and their morals BUT it comes down to one rational and reasonable explanation for marriage -reproduction. You cannot really argue differently than looking at what it is -biology and science. In fact gays sometimes refer to heterosexuals as the "breeders." It is hard to argue against the male and female dance to reproduce an offspring. You can't do it unless you use artificial reproductive treatment, just current technology. I agree that many gays don't want to push and test Christians and other faiths. I have not read one ancient society that married gays or joined them together in some religious union (even before Christianity); however they did accept them within the community sharing same households. I think it comes down to votes, money, lawsuits and force. Any gay couple can write a will to protect their assets, inheritance, and do medical directives to protect their partner. So why even bother with marriage?

Yeah, two points can be deduced from this, the first is my point:

-Why to get married, heterosexual couple can stay in civil unions just like the homosexual ones, "So why even bother with marriage?".

Second point is, if we tolerate marriage, why to don't equally tolerate it even for homosexuals?

@FiA

-I'm hetero, if I wasn't I would have admitted that, homo=hetero, we're all equal, no one is better than the other.

-Again and again, read and then speak. No one is saying force the church to practice same-gender marriage. Just allow homosexual couples to get married(in the town hall) as you allow the heterosexual couple to do so.

-Your father is very serious about Jesus, have you ever asked your father to get a real job and to do the pastor for free without being paid? :D Then you see how much serious he is about it. I know plenty of imams here in Albania and I've talked to them about this "Flat Earth" of the Qur'an, well they answered that they have 5 kids to feed up, smiled and left.

-Well secular humanism is not anti-theism, considering the way that you speak I doubt you ever joined any secular club. Humanism cares about trying to turn on the brain of the people and making them understand that we're just humans. While secularism is just trying to remove compulsory teaching of religion on public schools, is trying to stop indoctrination of the kids and removing discrimination for those who refuse to join the religion of the majority. If Marxists like these things, I'm glad they do. But that's not a reason to consider a bad thing secular humanism. That would be like saying "is wrong to be an ethnic German, because Hitler was" or "it's wrong to have mustaches because Hitler and Stalin have them".

antonio
11-20-2012, 04:36 PM
Except for the disgusting city of Paris, I'd say close to 0%.

Occident makes strange bed companions. Here Muslims and Leftists came many times hand in hand, I hope they share the better on them if any, but, frankly, I highly doubt it.:)


Fortis: UK gave a lesson to the world by focusing on the relevant as the civilized country still is. Spain gave a lesson about a skizophrenic country passing in few decades (minutes in historical time) from generalized homophobia ranging between subtle to rude, to "homointegrism" against our Catholic foundations trying to use the logic reaction of bishops as a excuse to ridiculize and paint an integrist picture of Church.

MagnaLaurentia
11-21-2012, 08:10 PM
it's to prove they're that "riot" is not only common in russia in europe.;)

I would say even more. It is not for nothing that Russia currently cover this event. We've heard for years that Russia was a place intolerant and homophobic... and therefore it was not a true "democracy" (for UK, France, Germany, USA).

Russia did the same thing with those countries who blame him for that. Do not forget that we are close to a WW3 (or Cold War 2) with the case of Syria and Iran. Each side trying to personify the virtue and truth. The media = propaganda.

This week Putin met Merkel and he criticize him on his support to the Pussy Riot. He almost said that Merkel was antisemitism with his support to the Pussy Riot : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/16/vladimir-putin-angela-merkel-pussy-riot

In French (sorry I have not found in English) - It is strange that it's practically ignored in the English-speaking websites.
O9rZxV26JmQ

MagnaLaurentia
11-26-2012, 12:16 PM
These girls are real prostitutes! Some are escorts and they provide "extras".

The proof : http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Les-FEMEN-ni-putes-ni-soumises-15096.html

What a world! Prostitutes give lessons now. :eek:

The Lawspeaker
11-26-2012, 12:21 PM
These girls are real prostitutes! Some are escorts and they provide "extras".

The proof : http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Les-FEMEN-ni-putes-ni-soumises-15096.html

What a world! Prostitutes give lessons now. :eek:

The world is going to hell in a hand basket.

Rouxinol
11-26-2012, 12:23 PM
How high was the percentage of Muslims among the anti-gay protesters?

Damn right. That's what I thought upon seeing such savagery.