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The Lawspeaker
07-22-2009, 11:40 AM
Doctors: Swedish snus cut risk of cancer (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-05-09-200069294_x.htm)
5/9/2007 10:59

LONDON — Smokers looking for a less harmful way to get their nicotine fix should switch to Swedish snus -- a smokeless tobacco that puts them at a significantly lower risk of cancer than cigarettes, doctors say in an article posted online Thursday in The Lancet.

Smokers are at least 10 times more likely to get lung cancer than people who use snus, studies showed -- a finding that could challenge bans on snus, particularly in the European Union.

All EU nations now prohibit snus, except for Sweden, which was granted an exemption because of the widespread use of the powder tobacco among Swedes. In the United States, smokeless tobacco is legal, and Swedish snus is being test-marketed in at least two U.S. cities.

"We should not delay in allowing snus to compete with cigarettes for market share," Dr. Jonathan Foulds of the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey and Dr. Lynn Kozlowski of the University of Buffalo said in analyzing two studies published in The Lancet.

"The banning or exaggerated opposition to snus in cigarette-rife environments is not sound public health policy," they wrote.

One study tracked the incidence of cancer over among nearly 280,000 Swedish men -- some of them snus users, some smokers and some who never used tobacco -- over a 20-year period. The other projected the effect on health if snus were introduced in Australia, where it currently is banned.

Swedish snus makers say the production process there is different from similar products in the U.S., adding that they work hard to remove carcinogens during manufacturing.

But snus is far from harmless; about 30 carcinogens have been found in the smokeless tobacco. In 2004, the Luxembourg-based European Court of Justice upheld a ban on the substance, ruling that the dangers of snus merited its being outlawed.

However, the two studies show snus may not be as harmful as previously thought, and far less harmful than cigarettes.

International researchers followed 279,897 male Swedish construction workers from 1978 to 1992. About 26 percent were snus users, 37 percent were smokers and the rest never used tobacco.

For smokers, the incidence rate of pancreatic cancer was 13 cases per 100,000. That rate dropped to 8.8 cases per 100,000 for snus users.
Among those who did not use tobacco, the rate was 3.9 cases per 100,000.

The study also showed that using snus did not increase the risk of oral cancer, though users might develop mouth lesions where the substance is placed since it generally is tucked inside the upper lip. In addition, using snus can complicate pregnancies and may raise the risk for heart disease.

In the modeling study, Australian researchers found that lifting current restrictions on snus would probably benefit public health if the smokeless tobacco is adopted by people who would otherwise continue smoking.

In Sweden, many smokers have switched to snus, and the country now has one of the lowest smoking rates in the world: less than 20 percent of the population.

Some experts worry that legalizing snus could still have harmful effects.
"As with all tobacco products, snus is not completely risk-free," said Jean King, director of tobacco control at Cancer Research UK. King, who was not connected to either study, said that while snus could help smokers quit, it would be important to prevent snus from being adopted by new users.

Smoking is the top risk factor for cancer, and approximately 1 billion people worldwide are addicted to the nicotine in cigarettes. Tobacco kills one in 10 people globally, and causes 4 million deaths every year.

"For a smoker, quitting all tobacco use is best, but failing that, switching to snus is a good idea," said Dr. Peter Hajek, professor of clinical psychology at Queen Mary University Hospital in London. Hajek was not involved in either study.

"If a sufficient proportion of smokers switched to snus, lifting the ban could be in the public interest," Hajek said


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NOTE FROM THE LAWSPEAKER: It could work as a bridge between quitting smoking and stop using nicotine altogether. It makes one feel light-headed and dizzy as the nicotine is "injected" straight into the blood. My advise to myself and other snus-users is this: don't use it for a long period and quit smoking once the package is empty and of course don't use too much.

KARL's ADVISE: don't keep it under your lip for more then 15 minutes at a time as it will make you feel miserable if you continue. 5-10 minutes is best.

Vargtand
07-22-2009, 11:50 AM
No, keep the ban, let us have something to our selfs! or sell it in Ikea...

The Lawspeaker
07-22-2009, 12:00 PM
No, keep the ban, let us have something to our selfs! or sell it in Ikea...
Well Vargtand. I understand that you "want to keep something for yourself" but think about three things:


1. The fact that if other Europeans would start using it and smoke less as a result it would improve public health abroad as well.

2. Think about the money Swedish (and also Norwegian) companies can make - it will also flow back into the Swedish (and Norwegian) economy.

3. It would also damage powerful tobacco companies because now they will have to compete. And competition and the free market are blessings as it will make people choose between two evils- one of which is lesser.

Vargtand
07-22-2009, 12:08 PM
Well Vargtand. I understand that you "want to keep something for yourself" but think about three things:


1. The fact that if other Europeans would start using it and smoke less as a result it would improve public health abroad as well.

2. Think about the money Swedish (and also Norwegian) companies can make - it will also flow back into the Swedish (and Norwegian) economy.

3. It would also damage powerful tobacco companies because now they will have to compete. And competition and the free market are blessings as it will make people choose between two evils- one of which is lesser.

1 urgh more continentals
2 we don't need your stinking money leave us alone!
3 deal with your own problems!

:P

Absinthe
07-22-2009, 12:12 PM
Snus is a filthy, filthy habit!! :rolleyes:

Vargtand
07-22-2009, 12:15 PM
Snus is a filthy, filthy habit!! :rolleyes:

Don't you go about trash talking our culture!
(yeah it is, I've never used it my self but still)

Absinthe
07-22-2009, 12:16 PM
This isn't culture my dear, it is nicotine addiction, it increases the risk for gum cancer and makes your mouth smell like an ashtray! :)

The Lawspeaker
07-22-2009, 12:17 PM
Snus is a filthy, filthy habit!! :rolleyes:
So is, according to many, smoking. I think that seen from a public health point of view it is most certainly the lesser evil and I actually think that if pubs would get free reign in deciding their own tobacco policy they should sell snus to customers instead of cigarettes (as is, despite the smoking ban, still the case here in the Netherlands- pretty ironical).

I think that the EU- and our own government should learn to think for themselves as let the entrepreneurs do their thing.

Vargtand
07-22-2009, 12:18 PM
This isn't culture my dear, it is nicotine addiction, it increases the risk for gum cancer and makes your mouth smell like an ashtray! :)

It is our culture! Much like being drunk is part of the Finnish culture!

EWtt
07-22-2009, 12:19 PM
I've bought snus while visiting Sweden and must say I quite liked it, unfortunately here it isn't sold in every store. Though it didn't fully stop me craving for a cigarette, even if I used multiple pods at a time... :confused:

The Lawspeaker
07-22-2009, 12:20 PM
This isn't culture my dear, it is nicotine addiction, it increases the risk for gum cancer and makes your mouth smell like an ashtray! :)
Well- smoking dramatically increases the risk for throat cancer and lung cancer (and some more health issues) and also makes your mouth smell like an ashtray.

Snus still sounds like a huge improvement. If combined with the e-cigarette it could cut back on a lot of deaths a year and dramatically lower our health care costs- and hell.. it could even give the entrepreneurs something to cash in on.


I've bought snus while visiting Sweden and must say I quite licked it, unfortunately here it isn't sold in every store. Though it didn't fully stop me craving for a cigarette, even if I used multiple pods at a time... :confused:
You can try what I am going to try. If you know a place where you can buy it you can even slow down going over that bridge from smoking to non-smoking much slower.
I bought a pack of six (it's unavailable in the EU) when I was in Norway and I will quit smoking after it. So by infusing myself directly with nicotine (if you will) for some time (couple of months) I might be able to quit lol

Absinthe
07-22-2009, 12:23 PM
People, I am not saying it is worse than smoking, I am saying that all nicotine-related habits are self-destructive :)

Yes, it may be part of the Swedish culture but that doesn't mean that it is beneficial for the population...even the greatest nations have some filthy habits :)

Jamt
07-22-2009, 03:41 PM
The latest studies show no increase in cardiac arrest among snusare, which is surprising as snus raises blood pressure a bit. Anyway, male snusare lives as long as non tobacco users. Vargtand must be te only Swedish male newer to have used snus. Maybe he was not supposed to have been born male but God changed his mind at the last moment and threw in a dick. Absinthe, I could put in a large pris of Ettan snus and give you a deep kiss and I promise, all you would feel is excitement.

Vargtand
07-22-2009, 03:51 PM
The latest studies show no increase in cardiac arrest among snusare, which is surprising as snus raises blood pressure a bit. Anyway, male snusare lives as long as non tobacco users. Vargtand must be te only Swedish male newer to have used snus. Maybe he was not supposed to have been born male but God changed his mind at the last moment and threw in a dick. Absinthe, I could put in a large pris of Ettan snus and give you a deep kiss and I promise, all you would feel is excitement.

Har...har, I'll let you know that I was intended to be a god, but they changed their minds so all you have now is this demigod cursed to walk this earth... forever!

or not, no I was promised my drivers licence if I did not smoke nor drink or use snus or drugs before I turned 18, at that point I decided that if I had been not using it this long I might continue, though I'm still waiting for my drivers licence... and it looks like I'll be paying for it anyways oh well... that and I am far to cheap to pay for anything I don't need, and I will not get addicted to anything that will cost me money, which is why porn is so great. :P:D