do slavic muslims believe in slavic mythology stuff like all other slavs

[Mortimer]

christian slavs believe in pre-christian slavic mythology like vile etc. etc.
do slavic muslims too?

[Hurrem sultana]

I know about vile and stuff,but no one normal believes that,it is only fairy tales

[Mortimer]

I know about vile and stuff,but no one normal believes that,it is only fairy tales

in christian slavs it is deep rooted most people will say its fairy tales but you can always hear stories from drunks how they met vile etc. etc. so its deep rooted really, its kinda superstitioun

[arcticwolf]

christian slavs believe in pre-christian slavic mythology like vile etc. etc.
do slavic muslims too?

Yes I personally believe in all the creatures of Slavic mythology! The werewolf, the vampire, rusalka, topielec all of them! they are all real! :D

[Hurrem sultana]

Yes I personally believe in all the creatures of Slavic mythology! The werewolf, the vampire, rusalka, topielec all of them! they are all real! :D

smart guy:D

[Osprey]

no they believe in genies from the balkan desert

[Mortimer]

Yes I personally believe in all the creatures of Slavic mythology! The werewolf, the vampire, rusalka, topielec all of them! they are all real! :D

you wish dude:D
no you know very well that is alive in the reich of the slav. people are not aware of it consciously they say its fairy tales but subconcsiously its still there and well alive in the slavs. at least in christian balkan slavs, i grew up as a kid with slavic mythology. the vampire and vile and undead etc. its a alive superstiton similar to the believe of Friday 13 which is alive in the west.

[Sisak]

in christian slavs it is deep rooted most people will say its fairy tales but you can always hear stories from drunks how they met vile etc. etc. so its deep rooted really, its kinda superstitioun

Grandmother of my friend said she and her sister were "vile" when the were chldrens

[Sisak]

you wish dude:D
no you know very well that is alive in the reich of the slav. people are not aware of it consciously they say its fairy tales but subconcsiously its still there and well alive in the slavs. at least in christian balkan slavs, i grew up as a kid with slavic mythology. the vampire and vile and undead etc. its a alive superstiton similar to the believe of Friday 13 which is alive in the west.

do you ever say: baba roga will catch you!

[Mortimer]

do you ever say: baba roga will catch you!

yes we do:)

[Sisak]

yes we do:)

are you influnced by serbs or austrians? i have never heard asutrians belive in slavic mitology

[Mortimer]

are you influnced by serbs or austrians? i have never heard asutrians belive in slavic mitology

by slavs of course dude. by slavic world.

[Mortimer]

muslim slavs didnt declared them so far

[Sisak]

my recommendation is croatian cartoons Elm chanted forest, Magicians hat and Lapitch, the little shoemaker. first 2 are one of my favorite cartoons from the childhood.

[kvarc]

my recommendation is croatian cartoons Elm chanted forest, Magicians hat and Lapitch, the little shoemaker. first 2 are one of my favorite cartoons from the childhood.

tehnicki govoreci Cudesna suma je jugoslovenski crtani :D

[Hurrem sultana]

muslim slavs didnt declared them so far

i know about all the figures you mention here,but they have no strong influence

[Hurrem sultana]

do you know about Mora? she comes at night and kills you :D


my friends grandmother did not give a poor gypsy woman milk during the war(she needed it her self) so accoring to her at night Mora came to her and wanted to choke her :O

[dado]

we just use some of the characters to scare our children

[Mortimer]

so its alive in the muslims too, ok.

[Mraz]

I don't even believe in God so I don't see why I'd believe in trees and circles of rock...But my mom believes in a lot of stuff that are considered as anti-Islamic.

[Hurrem sultana]

Its not something people believe,its like santa claus,,it is there but no one believes it

[Annihilus]

Who or what is Vile? Does it have to do with the English word vile?

[Hurrem sultana]

Who or what is Vile? Does it have to do with the English word vile?

fairy

[Mortimer]

Its not something people believe,its like santa claus,,it is there but no one believes it

its like friday 13, no one believes it but when you say to someone today is friday 13 he gets suddenly uncomfortable

[Annihilus]

fairy

good or bad?

[Hurrem sultana]

good or bad?

vila is usually associated with good

[Midori]

Who or what is Vile? Does it have to do with the English word vile?

Vile (Vee-leh) = Fairies

Btw, we also use Baba Roga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga) to scare the children here :D

[Guapo]

muslim slavs are rejects

[Methmatician]

Yes, somewhat. But no one takes it seriously, you're just aware of it. I remember my mother used to put a cloth over me and pretend to be Baba Roga to scare me.

[Methmatician]

Is the "Snijet" Slavic influence, or did that come from the Ottomans?

[Guapo]

Yes, somewhat. But no one takes it seriously, you're just aware of it. I remember my mother used to put a cloth over me and pretend to be Baba Roga to scare me.

thats mean, dude

[Methmatician]

thats mean, dude

It's not as bad as the beatings with sticks :D

[Sisak]

That are Vile and i think they like to dance circle dance.

http://i49.tinypic.com/15hyb8y.jpg

[Sisak]

baba roga
qzLa8IMxksM

[Sisak]

Morana-goddess of death, winter, rain and ice. Some croatian girl have this name.
http://i48.tinypic.com/14mb2tw.jpg

[mysticism]

no they believe in genies from the balkan desert

Old Bosnian muslims in the middle ages thought Serbs were genies because of their massive height.

Today the word "Dzin (Genie)" means "giant".

[Methmatician]

Old Bosnian muslims in the middle ages thought Serbs were genies because of their massive height.

Today the word "Dzin (Genie)" means "giant".

lolwut :D

[Hurrem sultana]

Old Bosnian muslims in the middle ages thought Serbs were genies because of their massive height.

Today the word "Dzin (Genie)" means "giant".

dzin means devil,coming from the koran :D

[mysticism]

dzin means devil,coming from the koran :D

they just made that up to keep the muslim girls away from the Serb stallions. :p

[Hurrem sultana]

In Bosnia most serbs are vlasi,and they tend to be dark and short,so no..sorry :P :D

[mysticism]

In Bosnia most serbs are vlasi,and they tend to be dark and short,so no..sorry :P :D

Another bed-time story myth, told to muslim daughters to keep them obedient and away from the big strong Serbs.

and Vladimir Radmanovic would disagree with you http://www.nba.com/warriors/photos/VR_BWB10_270x274.jpg
(the guy on the left is bosniak) :p

[Hurrem sultana]

I see them more often then you do i know ;) do not take one example and take it as a rule ;) :D

[mysticism]

Maybe you muslims are feeding them something, to be come small and dark like u? :)

Wait, look at Nemanja go!

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1110/cbb-top-shooters/images/nemanja-mitrovic.jpg

Man, this bosnian Serb can jump well for a midget ey? :P

[Methmatician]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1110/cbb-top-shooters/images/nemanja-mitrovic.jpg
Man, this bosnian Serb can jump well for a midget ey? :P

If you to convince her, stop using basketball players :rolleyes:

[kvarc]

In Bosnia most serbs are vlasi,and they tend to be dark and short,so no..sorry :P :D

Serbs from Bosnia short?! ha ha that`s the dumbest thing I heard you must have some perception problems ....Trebinje ( altrough that is Hercegovina ) is a town that has statisicly the tallest population on average in the world 186 or 187 cm

[safinator]

Serbs from Bosnia short?! ha ha that`s the dumbest thing I heard you must have some perception problems ....Trebinje ( altrough that is Hercegovina ) is a town that has statisicly the tallest population on average in the world 186 or 187 cm
I've read that claim many times but no source, can you post it?

[kvarc]

I've read that claim many times but no source, can you post it?

no, I`am just to lazy :)

but take it this way, Yugoslavia and Serbia were basketball supepowers, and there best players had origins from Hercegovina and to lesser extent Bosnia

[Hurrem sultana]

Hercegovina is an other story,in Hercegovina everyone is tall...i am talking about Bosnian serbs! most serbs from BIH are bosnian not herzegovina

[safinator]

The reason isn't laziness but that it doesn't exist something like this except in the mind of yours and some of your buddies.

[Hurrem sultana]

The reason isn't laziness but that it doesn't exist something like this except in the mind of yours and some of your buddies.

albanians are shorter on average and you are jealous:picard1:

[safinator]

albanians are shorter on average and you are jealous:picard1:
I don't have statistics for Albanians but they are probably shorter compared to Herzegovians cause Coon noted it.
Do you have statistics to back up your claims?

[kvarc]

Hercegovina is an other story,in Hercegovina everyone is tall...i am talking about Bosnian serbs! most serbs from BIH are bosnian not herzegovina

all the Serbs I know from Bosnia are tall, and the only one I know it`s short has a Hercegovinian father....and the only short guy I met that was from Bosnia was a Muslim....

[kvarc]

The reason isn't laziness but that it doesn't exist something like this except in the mind of yours and some of your buddies.

nope.........there are articals on the net, search for it, I`am not you secretery

[Sisak]

croatian albanian are gipsy looking, short and dark

[Hurrem sultana]

croatian albanian are gipsy looking, short and dark

albaians are shortest among balkanians,if you dont count greeks

[safinator]

albaians are shortest among balkanians,if you dont count greeks
Do you have any source again?

[Sisak]

Do you have any source again?
i saw them in reallty. they have backeries in croatia.

[safinator]

i saw them in reallty. they have backeries in croatia.
Interesting, but your eyes aren't a source and it wasn't directed to you.

[dralos]

i saw them in reallty. they have backeries in croatia.
yes we all believe slavs and their stories

[Hurrem sultana]

Eyes do tell a lot

[dralos]

too bad not if those eyes are slavic wich hate albanians

[dralos]

Eyes do tell a lot
judging from the pic i posted of you with those slavic bitchez i can assume you are whores who like to go nasty with niggers:)

[Mraz]

I ate a burek in an Albanian restaurant once in Crikvenica in Croatie...It was the worst thing I ever ate, and I believe those guys just opened that restaurant to wash illegal business money :laugh:

[Hurrem sultana]

judging from the pic i posted of you with those slavic bitchez i can assume you are whores who like to go nasty with niggers:)

you can assume whatever you want,but i never assume i just see your short people

[Mraz]

Between that how comes Albos participate in each threads that are related to Muslims or Slavs?

[dralos]

you can assume whatever you want,but i never assume i just see your short people
then i'm correct too bcs i do see alot of bosnian sluts and you know my claim is much more correct than yours:)

[dralos]

Between that how comes Albos participate in each threads that are related to Muslims or Slavs?
bcs we like to keep an eye on our intruders on our holy ground:thumb001:

[Mraz]

then i'm correct too bcs i do see alot of bosnian sluts and you know my claim is much more correct than yours:)

Tell me more about those Bosnian sluts, I'm 140 km from them come one dude :D

[dralos]

Tell me more about those Bosnian sluts, I'm 140 km from them come one dude :D
come to flanders and i'll show you their hiding space:D

[safinator]

Eyes do tell a lot
Sure, why don't you write a book about it?

[Mraz]

come to flanders and i'll show you their hiding space:D

I think I'd rather get one in Luxembourg, I'll get citizenship with marriage and my wellfare would be like 2 times the average Belgian salary :D

[dralos]

I think I'd rather get one in Luxembourg, I'll get citizenship and my wellfare would be like 2 times the average Belgian salary :D
i like your idea:D

[Mraz]

i like your idea:D

I would have 3 passports :laugh:
Luxembourg is full of Bosniaks and Albanians, you should try it too.

[dralos]

mayby they can join one day my crime gang and become rich:D
3 passports will be useful for them when they join:D

[mysticism]

Hercegovina is an other story,in Hercegovina everyone is tall...i am talking about Bosnian serbs! most serbs from BIH are bosnian not herzegovina

Not true. And in Herzegovina the bosniaks are still shorter.

[Anusiya]

Yeah, they believe in Homer being a Turk (from Omar) and they also believe in the myth of Hamza and Arkin (Adam and Eve). Basically, in whatever myth you put something Turkish and you have it! Heracles stole the lukums from Atlantas (Atalan yusuf) and so on...

[kvarc]

in bosnia most serbs are vlasi,and they tend to be dark and short,so no..sorry :p :d

"Срби и Српкиње средњег века беху лепи људи са правилним цртама… противно глатко избријаним Италијанима, Срби и остали народи источне Европе носили су дугу браду и косу… Песнички идеал беше жена отворено златне боје, као и у делима класичне старине… На старим фрескама и у описима приказују се Срби и Српкиње као високи и лепи људи са правилним цртама лица… Србин Босанац је по расту и данас виши од Србина из других крајева. Поред смеђе и црне косе, која преовлађује, има још и данас плавих људи.

Константин Јиричек, чешки историчар"

[mysticism]

bosnian la'owned

[Hurrem sultana]

"Срби и Српкиње средњег века беху лепи људи са правилним цртама… противно глатко избријаним Италијанима, Срби и остали народи источне Европе носили су дугу браду и косу… Песнички идеал беше жена отворено златне боје, као и у делима класичне старине… На старим фрескама и у описима приказују се Срби и Српкиње као високи и лепи људи са правилним цртама лица… Србин Босанац је по расту и данас виши од Србина из других крајева. Поред смеђе и црне косе, која преовлађује, има још и данас плавих људи.

Константин Јиричек, чешки историчар"

I am sorry i cant read in cirilica

[mysticism]

I am sorry i cant read in cirilica

http://s3.amazonaws.com/giles/spiders_110611/son-i-am-disappoint.jpg

[Sisak]

"Срби и Српкиње средњег века беху лепи људи са правилним цртама… противно глатко избријаним Италијанима, Срби и остали народи источне Европе носили су дугу браду и косу…
"

jesam li ja to dobro pročitala da su Talijani imali izbrijane glave?

[Methmatician]

I am sorry i cant read in cirilica

And you call yourself Bosnian :D

[Hurrem sultana]

And you call yourself Bosnian :D

yes of course not serbian :D

[mysticism]

yes of course not serbian :D

cyrllic is for all yugoslavs..let go of ur hate and anger within u, it makes allah cry

[Mraz]

Cyrillic is useless in Fed BiH.

[Hurrem sultana]

cyrllic is for all yugoslavs..let go of ur hate and anger within u, it makes allah cry

in federacija you cant use it almost,same with croatia..so i guess it is in serbia and rs

[Methmatician]

yes of course not serbian :D

Bosnian is a language of two scripts; Cyrillic and Latin. We were using Cyrillic way before Latin.

[Hurrem sultana]

Bosnian is a language of two scripts; Cyrillic and Latin. We were using Cyrillic way before Latin.

we used to use arabic letters too,past

[Mraz]

Bosnian is a language of two scripts; Cyrillic and Latin. We were using Cyrillic way before Latin.

We also used Roman numbers before Arabic ones :rolleyes:
Latin is much better.

[Methmatician]

we used to use arabic letters too,past

Yeah, I know. There should be more study on that. But Cyrillic is our original script and our language was first mentioned using Bosnian Cyrillic.

[Methmatician]

We also used Roman numbers before Arabic ones :rolleyes:
Latin is much better.

For numbers, yes. For writing, meh. I don't really care which one prevails. I just prefer Cyrillic. Adds to the culture.

[Sultan Suleiman]

I want Bosanćica back :(

[Methmatician]

I want Bosanćica back :(

I want it back as well, but modernised.

[Hurrem sultana]

For numbers, yes. For writing, meh. I don't really care which one prevails. I just prefer Cyrillic. Adds to the culture.

cirilica is dead among croats and bosniaks,most still learn it in school "radi reda" but nothing more.I can read it quite good but not write

[Mraz]

You can dream about it, most people coming from non mixed areas would consider Cyrillic as Serbian.

[Sultan Suleiman]

cirilica is dead among croats and bosniaks,most still learn it in school "radi reda" but nothing more.I can read it quite good but not write

Honey you probably know more about Swedish history than Bosnian one, so please stay out of this one OK?

[Sultan Suleiman]

You can dream about it, most people coming from redneck areas would consider Cyrillic as Serbian.

[Hurrem sultana]

Honey you probably know more about Swedish history than Bosnian one, so please stay out of this one OK?

use your sarcasm against someone else you are not funny ,ok?

[kvarc]

i want bosanćica back :(

"Ћиро Трухелка, хрватски археолог и историчар умјетности (1865.-1942.) први даје назив овој ћирилици, босанчица, да би лакше лансирао фалсификат да је натпис повеље кулина Бана на хрватском језику..."

[Mraz]

For Sarajlije, the rest of Bosnia are rednecks :rolleyes:

[Sultan Suleiman]

use your sarcasm against someone else you are not funny ,ok?

Ignoring the facts won't make them go away :rolleyes:

Now tell me, do you know what was the date on which Povelja Kulina Bana was signed or when and where was Tvrtko crowned the first King of Bosnia or who were minds behind the short lasted Bosnian Islamic Republic in 1878?

But without using google or wikipedia. We both know that you can't answer these, while you probably know which Gustaf did what or opened which opera house.

[Methmatician]

cirilica is dead among croats and bosniaks,most still learn it in school "radi reda" but nothing more.I can read it quite good but not write

So we should just forget everything that used to exist in our culture just because people don't use it? Did you know that writings about Husein Gradaščević didn't exist from his death until after the Yugoslav Wars? If we took your attitude, we would would have completely forgotten about him just because no one wrote about him. But thanks to people's thirst for the past, we now have poems and books on the 'Zmaj od Bosne'.

[mysticism]

I am sorry i cant read in cirilica


cirilica is dead among croats and bosniaks,most still learn it in school "radi reda" but nothing more.I can read it quite good but not write


:picard2::picard2::picard2:

[Methmatician]

For Sarajlije, the rest of Bosnia are rednecks :rolleyes:

And Sarajevo is the most important city in Bosnia. See the connection? :D

[Sultan Suleiman]

For Sarajlije, the rest of Bosnia are rednecks :rolleyes:

Because ignoring and shuning our own history like you and Bosnian are doing only makes Serbian claims stronger.

And if I was a non-Balkanian I would believe the Serbs, over mentally retarded fucks which spit on the script which was used to write the earliest Bosnian documents which prove that we are distinct south Slavic tribe.

That's why I say to Bosnian it's better for her (and us) that she just accepts her Swedish identity and stop giving Serbs ammunition to use against those who know who we are. :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

Ignoring the facts won't make them go away :rolleyes:

Now tell me, do you know what was the date on which Povelja Kulina Bana was signed or when and where was Tvrtko crowned the first King of Bosnia or who were minds behind the short lasted Bosnian Islamic Republic in 1878?

But without using google or wikipedia. We both know that you can't answer these, while you probably know which Gustaf did what or opened which opera house.

You think you know much about me when in fact you do not:rolleyes: please just mind your own,,the guy here that is trying to talk in the name of Bosnians writes on a forum where it is against the rules to write islam or muslims:D from Australia,when was the last time he visited bosnia? and you try to use the sweden argument against me? :D please! :D how many bosnians in Bosnia know what you just asked me? :picard1:

[mysticism]

Ignoring the facts won't make them go away :rolleyes:

Now tell me, do you know what was the date on which Povelja Kulina Bana was signed or when and where was Tvrtko crowned the first King of Bosnia or who were minds behind the short lasted Bosnian Islamic Republic in 1878?

But without using google or wikipedia. We both know that you can't answer these, while you probably know which Gustaf did what or opened which opera house.

http://global3.memecdn.com/blondes-eh_o_163329.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

So we should just forget everything that used to exist in our culture just because people don't use it? Did you know that writings about Husein Gradaščević didn't exist from his death until after the Yugoslav Wars? If we took your attitude, we would would have completely forgotten about him just because no one wrote about him. But thanks to people's thirst for the past, we now have poems and books on the 'Zmaj od Bosne'.

Not just that they dont use it,they gave it up,consider it part of foreign culture(serbian)

[mysticism]

Because ignoring and shuning our own history like you and Bosnian are doing only makes Serbian claims stronger.

And if I was a non-Balkanian I would believe the Serbs, over mentally retarded fucks which spit on the script which was used to write the earliest Bosnian documents which prove that we are distinct south Slavic tribe.

That's why I say to Bosnian it's better for her (and us) that she just accepts her Swedish identity and stop giving Serbs ammunition to use against those who know who we are. :thumb001:

:thumb001::thumb001:



BRO, .....



I beliefe teh B0sni4nz <3

[Methmatician]

Not just that they dont use it,they gave it up,consider it part of foreign culture(serbian)

Well of course the Cyrillic used now in Bosnia is foreign; it's Serbian Cyrillic. But Bosančica is our own.

[Sultan Suleiman]

"Ћиро Трухелка, хрватски археолог и историчар умјетности (1865.-1942.) први даје назив овој ћирилици, босанчица, да би лакше лансирао фалсификат да је натпис повеље кулина Бана на хрватском језику..."

I clearly doubt that Serb claim because terms Bosanćica and Begovica where both used to describe the same script.

Prosipaj tu Srpsko centričnu historiju nekom ko u životu nije dvije knjige pročitao :thumb001:

[Mraz]

Because ignoring and shuning our own history like you and Bosnian are doing only makes Serbian claims stronger.

And if I was a non-Balkanian I would believe the Serbs, over mentally retarded fucks which spit on the script which was used to write the earliest Bosnian documents which prove that we are distinct south Slavic tribe.

That's why I say to Bosnian it's better for her (and us) that she just accepts her Swedish identity and stop giving Serbs ammunition to use against those who know who we are. :thumb001:


I never said that Bosniaks never used Cyrillic, but what do you want? Replace Latin by Bosnian Cyrillic? It's like those Norwegians that want to change their writting for Runes and stuff.
Yes, take a crowd of soccer supporters and give them 2 exemplar of texts you'll see what would happen with the Cyrillic one. They are the mass and most of them are pro Turks like it or not.

[Hurrem sultana]

Well of course the Cyrillic used now in Bosnia is foreign; it's Serbian Cyrillic. But Bosančica is our own.

I agree

[Methmatician]

I never said that Bosniaks never used Cyrillic, but what do you want? Replace Latin by Bosnian Cyrillic? It's like those Norwegians that want to change their writting for Runes and stuff.
Yes, take a crowd of soccer supporters and give them 2 exemplar of texts you'll see what would happen with the Cyrrilic one. They are the mass and most of them are pro Turks like it or not.

Do you know that both scripts used in Bosnian language aren't actually Bosnian? One was created by a Croat for the Croatian language, one was created by a Serb for the Serbian language. Why not support a script created for the Bosnian language?

[kvarc]

I clearly doubt that Serb claim because terms Bosanćica and Begovica where both used to describe the same script.

Prosipaj tu Srpsko centričnu historiju nekom ko u životu nije dvije knjige pročitao :thumb001:

tzv. "bosancica" je obican "brzopis" i u originalu je nastala na raskom dvoru, pa se tek onda prosirila na Bosnu.

[Sultan Suleiman]

I never said that Bosniaks never used Cyrillic, but what do you want? Replace Latin by Bosnian Cyrillic? It's like those Norwegians that want to change their writting for Runes and stuff..

Jews resurrected their script and their language so shall we.

Our language has changed so many scripts and this hopefully the last change, for the first time in our history will be of our own will. :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

Jews resurrected their script and their language so shall we.

Our language has changed so many scripts and this hopefully the last change, for the first time in our history will be of our own will. :thumb001:

yes and hamzii islam will dominate in Bosni:picard1:

[Sultan Suleiman]

tzv. "bosancica" je obican "brzopis" i u originalu je nastala na raskom dvoru, pa se tek onda prosirila na Bosnu.

I. Bugari su isto tako rekli za srpsku ćirlicu, a budući da su oni prvo južno Slavenski narod koji se opismenio njihova riječ je puno više historijski korektnija.

II. Bosanćica se veže za 3 centra stila pisanja i ni jedan nije u Srbiji :thumb001:

[mysticism]

tzv. "bosancica" je obican "brzopis" i u originalu je nastala na raskom dvoru, pa se tek onda prosirila na Bosnu.

LOL so even "bosancica" script is from Serbia. Classic! these boslims never catch a break

[Mraz]

It's fashion, but I don't believe people need a new writting style, because following your logic, if you want a national rebirth, you have to get rid of Islam and go back to Bosnian Christianity.

After, if you want just to replace Serbian cyrillic for Bosnian cyrillic I'm for it.

[Methmatician]

It's fashion, but I don't believe people need a new writting style, because following your logic, if you want a national rebirth, you have to get rid of Islam and go back to Bosnian Christianity.

After, if you want just to replace Serbian cyrillic for Bosnian cyrillic I'm for it.

Why not go even further back to Slavic paganism? Or how about so far back that we start worshiping the Venus doll again? :D

[Sultan Suleiman]

yes and hamzii islam will dominate in Bosni:picard1:

Yes it will one day, just as Hamziis ruled it before 1834.

Maybe not in numbers, but compare the quality of individual Hamzii beliefs and his IQ compared to a run of a mill Sunni and you will see that the scales are tipped in favor of the Hamziis by a factor of 10. We controlled most of Bosnia's economy, most artists, engineers and philosophers came out of Hamzii school of thought. Every one from Fevzi to Adnan Ikanović were influenced by us, while the Sunni cesspool gave nothing

We just need few thousand people in the right places and Bosnia will go back to it's good old days when the men were judged by merit, pen or blood :thumb001:

[Sultan Suleiman]

It's fashion, but I don't believe people need a new writting style, because following your logic, if you want a national rebirth, you have to get rid of Islam and go back to Bosnian Christianity.

Did the Turks change their religion when they adopted the alphabet?

[Sultan Suleiman]

LOL so even "bosancica" script is from Serbia. Classic! these boslims never catch a break

U vašoj historiji Djevica Marija je Srpkinja isto bila :thumb001:

[Mraz]

Did the Turks change their religion when they adopted the alphabet?

They didn't but they switched to an upgraded alphabet if we consider they wanted to be closer to Western Europe. Going from Latin to Cyrillic is downgrading IMO.

[mysticism]

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/86c/e10/2e1/resized/rgfgdfgdfg-meme-generator-im-here-for-the-tripfag-circlejerk-8c5478.jpg?1311106990.jpg

[Anusiya]

Going from Latin to Cyrillic is downgrading IMO.

That was retarded. Cyrillic is used to pronounce and represent different words and expressions. Simple as that. It would be more like migrating. :icon_lol:

[Sultan Suleiman]

They didn't but they switched to an upgraded alphabet if we consider they wanted to be closer to Western Europe. Going from Latin to Cyrillic is downgrading IMO.

It is our own script and it needs to be resurrected.

I have nothing against it's modernization using elements from another native pre-Slavic Bosnian script (Zenica runes).

[kvarc]

I. Bugari su isto tako rekli za srpsku ćirlicu, a budući da su oni prvo južno Slavenski narod koji se opismenio njihova riječ je puno više historijski korektnija.

II. Bosanćica se veže za 3 centra stila pisanja i ni jedan nije u Srbiji :thumb001:

"Rešetar je upozorio da je vrla "obična stvar da se naš skoropis zove ,bosanskim pismom' ili ,bosančicom'", zaključivši da to "nije nikako opravdano, jer on niti je postao u Bosni, niti je bio na Bosnu ograničen" (Rešetar 1933:112). Rešetar je zatim upozorio da se brzopis u nas u nas javio "najprije u kancelariji srpskih vladara, i to već za vladanja Stefana Prvovjenčanoga", dakle u prvoj četvrtini 13. stoljeća, "pa se je otada dalje pisalo skoropisom u svim našim krajevima gdje se je uopće pisalo ćirilicom, te zato i u Bosni i Hercegovini, u Dubrovniku i u Poljcima kod Spljeta" (Rešetar 1933:112). "

[mysticism]

That was retarded. Cyrillic is used to pronounce and represent different words and expressions. Simple as that. It would be more like migrating. :icon_lol:

Honestly speaking Cyrillic is made for our language. It flows better and has an efficient 1:1 between letter and sound.

Latin script is only used amongst us here because most are diaspora and dont have cyrillic keyboards. But latin script is not natural for a Slavic language.

[Hurrem sultana]

He is right,latin dominates totally in the world it would be crazy to switch

[Sultan Suleiman]

"Rešetar je upozorio da je vrla "obična stvar da se naš skoropis zove ,bosanskim pismom' ili ,bosančicom'", zaključivši da to "nije nikako opravdano, jer on niti je postao u Bosni, niti je bio na Bosnu ograničen" (Rešetar 1933:112). Rešetar je zatim upozorio da se brzopis u nas u nas javio "najprije u kancelariji srpskih vladara, i to već za vladanja Stefana Prvovjenčanoga", dakle u prvoj četvrtini 13. stoljeća, "pa se je otada dalje pisalo skoropisom u svim našim krajevima gdje se je uopće pisalo ćirilicom, te zato i u Bosni i Hercegovini, u Dubrovniku i u Poljcima kod Spljeta" (Rešetar 1933:112). "

Daješ mi izvore koji su nastali za vrijeme Srpskog nacionalističkog ludila :rolleyes:

I rekao sam ti za 3 centra stila pisanja Bosanćice (dva centra u Dalmaciji i jedan u Bosni).

[Anusiya]

Honestly speaking Cyrillic is made for our language. It flows better and has an efficient 1:1 between letter and sound.

Latin script is only used amongst us here because most are diaspora and dont have cyrillic keyboards. But latin script is not natural for a Slavic language.

Yes, I know. I am just telling the other guy that he is wrong to believe that Cyrillic is inferior or something. Just different.

[Mraz]

It is our own script and it needs to be resurrected.

I have nothing against it's modernization using elements from another native pre-Slavic Bosnian script (Zenica runes).

I still believe it's a fantasy, people need jobs and a functionnal state not a new alphabet that would anyway be rejected by Croats, Serbs and an important part of Bosniaks, creating useless divisions.

[Sultan Suleiman]

Honestly speaking Cyrillic is made for our language. It flows better and has an efficient 1:1 between letter and sound.



Pa kako ti čitaš ovu rečenicu?

Jeli dodaješ ili gutaš neka slova koja nisu u azbuci :rolleyes:

[Sultan Suleiman]

I still believe it's a fantasy, people need jobs and a functionnal state not a new alphabet that would anyway be rejected by Croats, Serbs and an important part of Bosniaks, creating useless divisions.

I would say it's a secondary but still an important project which will once have to be done if Bosniaks ever make up 70-75% of Bosnia's population :thumb001:

[mysticism]

He is right,latin dominates totally in the world it would be crazy to switch

u just love to get dominated

[mysticism]

Yes, I know. I am just telling the other guy that he is wrong to believe that Cyrillic is inferior or something. Just different.

Just giving my honest Yugoslav perspective

[Mraz]

I would say it's a secondary but still an important project which will once have to be done if Bosniaks ever make up 70-75% of Bosnia's population :thumb001:

The day we'd be 70-75% our first goal will be getting back Sandzak and Dalmatia...Maybe also an Islamic state :laugh:

[kvarc]

Daješ mi izvore koji su nastali za vrijeme Srpskog nacionalističkog ludila :rolleyes:

I rekao sam ti za 3 centra stila pisanja Bosanćice (dva centra u Dalmaciji i jedan u Bosni).

Milan Resetar ti je katolik iz Dubrovnik... doduse jeste se izjasnjavao kao Srbin, a ne kao Hrvat.

a evo ti sta o tome kaze Vatroslav Jagic, verovatno najpoznatiji hrvatski lingvista ikad

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9729/booksne.png

[mysticism]

The day we'd be 70-75% our first goal will be getting back Sandzak and Dalmatia...Maybe also an Islamic state :laugh:

Bigger chance you'lll be raped by a dildo

[Mraz]

Why not go even further back to Slavic paganism? Or how about so far back that we start worshiping the Venus doll again? :D

I'm sure, that even if your family is atheist, they'd prefer you to worship God than those dolls :D

[Methmatician]

I'm sure, that even if your family is atheist, they'd prefer you to worship God than those dolls :D

My family isn't Atheist though. It's just me.

[Sultan Suleiman]

The day we'd be 70-75% our first goal will be getting back Sandzak and Dalmatia...Maybe also an Islamic state :laugh:

Allahu Wakbar :D

[Methmatician]

The day we'd be 70-75% our first goal will be getting back Sandzak

I rather Sandžak stay in Montenegro and Serbia.

[Sultan Suleiman]

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9729/booksne.png

You keep posting sources during the "national rebirth" of your respective nations when both of them claimed that you are nothing more than just each other sub tribe.

While during the same time period smaller circles of Bosniaks also made the same claims, I don't post them because I see how ridiculous they are :thumb001:

[Sultan Suleiman]

I rather Sandžak stay in Montenegro and Serbia.

Just trolling mate :D

[kvarc]

You keep posting sources during the "national rebirth" of your respective nations when both of them claimed that you are nothing more than just each other sub tribe.

While during the same time period smaller circles of Bosniaks also made the same claims, I don't post them because I see how ridiculous they are :thumb001:

for about 100 years etnologist considered Serbs and Croats as one etnos, until Tito actually. and called them Serbo-croatian.....



the guy is a Croat........ and a well know linguistic

so your nationalistical sources from the 90`s are much more reliable? :D

you only see, what you want to see ;)

[Methmatician]

Just trolling mate :D

Who knows though. Do you think it's possible that if Bosniaks become the majority they will start demanding more? Like Serbs with RS, and Croats with HB?

[kvarc]

Who knows though. Do you think it's possible that if Bosniaks become the majority they will start demanding more? Like Serbs with RS, and Croats with HB?

Serbs were the majority in Bosnia until 41-45 genocide!

[Methmatician]

Serbs were the majority in Bosnia until 41-45 genocide!

And Albanians were majority Kosovo until end of WWI, then majority again in late 20th century :rolleyes: Populations change.

[kvarc]

And Albanians were majority Kosovo until end of WWI, then majority again in late 20th century :rolleyes: Populations change.

so changing structure of a certain population with genocide is a normal thing to you?

[Onur]

if you want a national rebirth, you have to get rid of Islam and go back to Bosnian Christianity.
Then i am sure you would draw much more hate from all the christians if you would return to Bogomilism.

Neither catholics nor orthodoxs doesn't tolerate divisions and separate ways in christianity. I am sure they would prefer Bosnians to remain as muslims rather than resurrecting a different branch of christianity.

[Methmatician]

so changing structure of a certain population with genocide is a normal thing to you?

There will be no genocide in Bosnia in the near future. If Bosniaks ever become the majority it will be due to Croats and Serbs leaving Bosnia.

[kvarc]

There will be no genocide in Bosnia in the near future. If Bosniaks ever become the majority it will be due to Croats and Serbs leaving Bosnia.

Said by a Muslim who lives where? :D

[Sultan Suleiman]

Serbs were the majority in Bosnia until 41-45 genocide!

Serbs became a majority in 1831. after a Muslim Serb destroyed the very core of Bosniak society, then we lost over a third of our population.

You would have never been here if it wasn't for Turks. :thumb001:

[Sultan Suleiman]

so changing structure of a certain population with genocide is a normal thing to you?

It is to Serbs.

But Bosnia will be Bosniak dominated mostly thanks to Serb and Croat politicians rather than some super secret "Bosniak-ZOG" conspiracy.

Practically it's nothing more than assisted suicide (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63117) :coffee:

[kvarc]

It is to Serbs.

But Bosnia will be Bosniak dominated mostly thanks to Serb and Croat politicians rather than some super secret "Bosniak-ZOG" conspiracy.

Practically it's nothing more than assisted suicide (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63117) :coffee:

there was like 3 times more Serbs killed in NDH genocide in BiH during the WWII then all the victims in Bosnian civil war of the 90`s, purported by Ustase witch had 1/3 of Muslims in there troops......

In Bosnia yes, in Republika Srpska NO ;)

[kvarc]

Serbs became a majority in 1831. after a Muslim Serb destroyed the very core of Bosniak society, then we lost over a third of our population.

You would have never been here if it wasn't for Turks. :thumb001:

Not sure what you are talking about, but Serbs where in Bosnia from 630 AD according to historical sources, they acctually made Bosnia in the first place :D

[Archduke]

Not sure what you are talking about, but Serbs where in Bosnia from 630 AD according to historical sources, they acctually made Bosnia in the first place :D

Those Slavs which settled in the 7th century in Bosnia are the ancestors of modern Bosniaks, they have nothing to do with Serbs.

Most Serbs in BiH came there recently from the territory of modern Serbia and their origins are very suspicious.

[Mraz]

Not sure what you are talking about, but Serbs where in Bosnia from 630 AD according to historical sources, they acctually made Bosnia in the first place :D

Slavs aren't Serbs.

[Sultan Suleiman]

purported by Ustase witch had 1/3 of Muslims in there troops......


Serbs themselves chose the side for the Bosniaks when you slaughtered all those civilians in Podrinje and other parts of Bosnia long before Crna Legija or SS 13 were formed. You people really need to read up on the third Newton's law. :rolleyes:

Before you backstabed us we fought tooth and nail to save as many of your kind as we could (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_of_Sarajevo_Muslims), that was one of our biggest mistakes in our history.

Because of that "cooperation" with the Nazi regime people who could have restored and secured Bosniak national interests in WW2 aftermath were all either imprisoned or killed, just like all the pro-Bosniak officers in the "NO"B were all rounded up and removed from picture during the "counter anti-revolutionary purges of the 45' to 49' which eliminated all independent Bosniak elite.

[mysticism]

Those Slavs which settled in the 7th century in Bosnia are the ancestors of modern Bosniaks, they have nothing to do with Serbs.

Most Serbs in BiH came there recently from the territory of modern Serbia and their origins are very suspicious.

They were noted as Serbs, read the DAI....read something at all :coffee:



"Serbs settled Bosnia in 630ad"

"Waaaaa we're not Serbsss they were Slavs Waaaaaa" - bosniak baby

http://www.lilomaternity.com/blog/images/baby-crying.jpg

[Sultan Suleiman]

http://www.lilomaternity.com/blog/images/baby-crying.jpg

Full 7 posts before resorting to pictures, I see progress. :thumb001:
DAI is not exactly a good reference for the ethnic structure of Bosnia. Because it's based mostly on reports of peoples who couldn't make the difference between Arabs and Kurds.

While in other sources from same time period, Slavs settling today's Old Serbia were referred as Red Croats.

You need to accept the fact that there were waves of Slavs which predated both Serbs and Croats with their allied Slavic tribes, while it's true that pockets of Serbs and Croats did settle today's territory of Bosnia the thought of them replacing much larger native population situated in one of the natural fortress of Europe is just ridiculous (but then again I am disusing with people who refer to themselves as "sky people"). :rolleyes:

[mysticism]

Full 7 posts before resorting to pictures, I see progress. :thumb001:
DAI is not exactly a good reference for the ethnic structure of Bosnia. Because it's based mostly on reports of peoples who couldn't make the difference between Arabs and Kurds.

While in other sources from same time period, Slavs settling today's Old Serbia were referred as Red Croats.

You need to accept the fact that there were waves of Slavs which predated both Serbs and Croats with their allied Slavic tribes, while it's true that pockets of Serbs and Croats did settle today's territory of Bosnia the thought of them replacing much larger native population situated in one of the natural fortress of Europe is just ridiculous (but then again I am disusing with people who refer to themselves as "sky people"). :rolleyes:

http://hplusbiopolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/angel1th.jpg?w=432&h=230
(Before Serbs started cutting their wings)

Jelly?

[Sultan Suleiman]

http://hplusbiopolitics.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/angel1th.jpg?w=432&h=230
(Before Serbs started cutting their wings)

Jelly?

TBH, yeah I kinda am :(

I never sprouted wings out of my ass...

[kvarc]

Serbs themselves chose the side for the Bosniaks when you slaughtered all those civilians in Podrinje and other parts of Bosnia long before Crna Legija or SS 13 were formed. You people really need to read up on the third Newton's law. :rolleyes:

Before you backstabed us we fought tooth and nail to save as many of your kind as we could (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_of_Sarajevo_Muslims), that was one of our biggest mistakes in our history.

Because of that "cooperation" with the Nazi regime people who could have restored and secured Bosniak national interests in WW2 aftermath were all either imprisoned or killed, just like all the pro-Bosniak officers in the "NO"B were all rounded up and removed from picture during the "counter anti-revolutionary purges of the 45' to 49' which eliminated all independent Bosniak elite.

that`s bullshit, genocide on Serbs started in WWII right after the establishment of NDH, and in Podrinje it was done mainly by Muslim from day one of occupation....

and you could just change the names:

" Muslims themselves chose the side for the Serbs when they slaughtered all those civilians in Srebrenica by Naser Orlic and other parts of Bosnia long before Ratko Mladic was there. You people really need to read up on the third Newton's law. :rolleyes:"

[kvarc]

Full 7 posts before resorting to pictures, I see progress. :thumb001:
DAI is not exactly a good reference for the ethnic structure of Bosnia. Because it's based mostly on reports of peoples who couldn't make the difference between Arabs and Kurds.

While in other sources from same time period, Slavs settling today's Old Serbia were referred as Red Croats.

You need to accept the fact that there were waves of Slavs which predated both Serbs and Croats with their allied Slavic tribes, while it's true that pockets of Serbs and Croats did settle today's territory of Bosnia the thought of them replacing much larger native population situated in one of the natural fortress of Europe is just ridiculous (but then again I am disusing with people who refer to themselves as "sky people"). :rolleyes:

why only DAI, there are bunch of documents documenting that Serbs settled Bosnia, and established it...

you funny man :D

the only document that mentions Red Croatia is by "Pop Dukljanin", in his wrightings, Serbia and Croatia were one country, and then they divided into two, one on shores, Croatia, with it`s southern part called Red Croatia, and the other one inside the mainland, wich encompanses all of Bosnia, called Serbia, so see if that suits you ;)

[Methmatician]

Most Serbs in BiH came there recently from the territory of modern Serbia and their origins are very suspicious.

Half the Serbs in Herzegovina came from Montenegro when the Ottomans came. The other half has been there since the 9th century.

[Sisak]

Prema nekim podacima, osobe koje su bježale iz Bosne u Hrvatsku od otomanskih progona su bile prihvatite u njemačke obitelji i bili su promijenili svoju vjeru u katoličku, osim toga su promijenili i imena u njemačka imena. Tako da ako netko ima njemačko prezime ne mora znaćiti da je on austrijskog ili njemačkog porijekla nego je baš možda izbjeglica iz bosne iz 18-19 stoljeća.

[mysticism]

Half the Serbs in Herzegovina came from Montenegro when the Ottomans came. The other half has been there since the 9th century.

:rolleyes::picard2::picard2:

[mysticism]

Prema nekim podacima, osobe koje su bježale iz Bosne u Hrvatsku od otomanskih progona su bile prihvatite u njemačke obitelji i bili su promijenili svoju vjeru u katoličku, osim toga su promijenili i imena u njemačka imena. Tako da ako netko ima njemačko prezime ne mora znaćiti da je on austrijskog ili njemačkog porijekla nego je baš možda izbjeglica iz bosne iz 18-19 stoljeća.

Bili su POZVANI od strane austrougarske, i tako su se doselili u vojnoj krajini, kojoj nije bilo hrvata tada zbog turskih progona na granicama carstva.

[Hurrem sultana]

Prema nekim podacima, osobe koje su bježale iz Bosne u Hrvatsku od otomanskih progona su bile prihvatite u njemačke obitelji i bili su promijenili svoju vjeru u katoličku, osim toga su promijenili i imena u njemačka imena. Tako da ako netko ima njemačko prezime ne mora znaćiti da je on austrijskog ili njemačkog porijekla nego je baš možda izbjeglica iz bosne iz 18-19 stoljeća.

Prvi put cujem,znam da su mnogi muslimani u 17,i 18 stoljecu dolazili u BIH,a BIH je prema starim osmanskim defterima bila vecinski muslimanska vec sredinom 1500 stoljeca,tako da danasnji muslimani su vecinom bivsi bogomili,pravoslavci i katolici i manjim dijelom stranci koji su dosli tokom osmanske vladavine

[Hurrem sultana]

Half the Serbs in Herzegovina came from Montenegro when the Ottomans came. The other half has been there since the 9th century.

No proof of serbs in Bosnia before ottomans

[Methmatician]

No proof of serbs in Bosnia before ottomans

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=658&pictureid=4978

[Sisak]

to su ljudi koji su izbjegli na područje današnje slavonije. vidjela sam nekakav popis tih osoba iz Osijeka. te osobe su promijenile svoja imena iz npr. Mirnes Osmanovic u Manfred Durman i prihvatile katoličku vjeru. i bile su nastavile živjeti u austrijskim obiteljima.

[Hurrem sultana]

to su ljudi koji su izbjegli na područje današnje slavonije. vidjela sam nekakav popis tih osoba iz Osijeka. te osobe su promijenile svoja imena iz npr. Mirnes Osmanovic u Manfred Durman i prihvatile katoličku vjeru. i bile su nastavile živjeti u austrijskim obiteljima.

kad se to dogadjalo bogati? zasto bi muslimani bjezali od osmanske vlasti kad su svi ostali muslimani(hrvatski,madjarski) bjezali u bosnu zbog osmanlija? glupo i cudno,uz to iz bosne su odlazili samo krscani

moze biti da je neko bjezao jer se zamjerio zbog necega,ali ne radi se o nekim znacajnim siframa koje vrijedi spominjati

[Sisak]

Pa kao što sam rekla negdje od 17 do 19 stoljeća, ne sjećam se točno kada.
Ali vidjela sam neki stari dokument, tj.popis tih ljudi. Pa smo zaključili kako imamo krivo mišljenje kako su svi sa germanskim prezimenima po krvi germani.

[RandoBloom]

to su ljudi koji su izbjegli na područje današnje slavonije. vidjela sam nekakav popis tih osoba iz Osijeka. te osobe su promijenile svoja imena iz npr. Mirnes Osmanovic u Manfred Durman i prihvatile katoličku vjeru. i bile su nastavile živjeti u austrijskim obiteljima.

Pobrkala si lonce
Ti koji su dosli u slavoniju su srbi koji su prisjavi uz austriju kada su zauzele austrijske trupe beograd
A ti koje ti spominjes su bosnjaci madjarske, like i drugih mjesta koji su otisli iz bosne tamo a kad su ta podrucja pala pod njemce nisu mogli pobjeci te su svi pokrsteni a oni koji su odbili su pobijeni

[Gorštak]

We belive in Drekavac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drekavac):eek:

[Methmatician]

The Slavic Muslims in Bosnia seem to have an affinity for dragons in their mythology, but this may be a general European thing.

[Sisak]

do you believe that all white is good, all black is evil?

[Gorštak]

do you believe that all white is good, all black is evil?

Is that also part of Slavic mythology:icon_biggrin:

[Temujin]

Do Bosniaks have any pan-Slavic deities in their mythology. Baba-Yaga or Baba-roga ? Rusalkas?

[Gorštak]

Do Bosniaks have any pan-Slavic deities in their mythology. Baba-Yaga or Baba-roga ? Rusalkas?

No, but there are a lot of locations who have term "Baba" in their name, still saved from old days.
You can find places with name "Baba's village", "Baba's rill" and such.
"Baba" is also used among Bosniaks to desribe old creepy woman, kinda witch.

[Methmatician]

Do Bosniaks have any pan-Slavic deities in their mythology. Baba-Yaga or Baba-roga ? Rusalkas?
I guess baba roga, djed mraz are pan-slavic ones that I'm sure of. Some I don't know if they exist in some form in other Slavic countries. Have you heard of the following in Slavic countries besides Bosnia?:

Vile (Fairies)
Stuhe, zduhaći (male witches)
zmaj (dragon)
Duša (soul)
Mora (nightmare)
Naletnica (witch)
Tvora (evil spirit of diseases)
Činilica (evil spirit of anxiety)
Otrovnica (evil spirit, poisons blood of people)
Krvopilica (evil spirit, drinks person's blood at night until they have none left)
Mraza (evil spirit of hatred)
Prikaze (evil spirits in shape of small animals who appear at night. If you see one it is sign of very bad misfortune)
Lampir (vampire)
Prepasti (scary apparitions)
Snijet (half dragon, half human)
Daždevnjak

???

[Temujin]

No, but there are a lot of locations who have term "Baba" in their name, still saved from old days.You can find places with name "Baba's village", "Baba's rill" and such.


So, there is nothing left from Slavic mythology ?


"Baba" is also used among Bosniaks to desribe old creepy woman, kinda witch.

Okay.

[Gorštak]

So, there is nothing left from Slavic mythology ?



Okay.

Problem is that I'm not so familiar to know what is Slavic in our mythology, I said it, I know about Drekavac, it's Slavic mythology and people know about that creature.

[Temujin]

I guess baba roga, djed mraz are pan-slavic ones that I'm sure of. Some I don't know if they exist in some form in other Slavic countries. Have you heard of the following in Slavic countries besides Bosnia?:

I know the djed mraz. :)



Stuhe, zduhaći (male witches)
zmaj (dragon)
Duša (soul)
Mora (nightmare)
Naletnica (witch)
Krvopilica (evil spirit, drinks person's blood at night until they have none left)
Mraza (evil spirit of hatred)

???

I can probably find analogous deities/spirits in eastern Slavic mythologies. Probably others I excluded from the list too. Thanks for the list.

[Sarmatian]

No, but there are a lot of locations who have term "Baba" in their name, still saved from old days.
You can find places with name "Baba's village", "Baba's rill" and such.
"Baba" is also used among Bosniaks to desribe old creepy woman, kinda witch.


In Russian 'baba' means mature woman. Quite often used as derogatory term in urbanized culture but in rural areas is just normal everyday word.

[Guapo]

In Russian 'baba' means mature woman. Quite often used as derogatory term in urbanized culture but in rural areas is just normal everyday word.

So Milf is Bilf in Russia?

[Methmatician]

In Russian 'baba' means mature woman. Quite often used as derogatory term in urbanized culture but in rural areas is just normal everyday word.

Yes, same in Bosnia from what I remember.

[Guapo]

Yes, same in Bosnia from what I remember.

i thought it meant dad

[Kiyant]

Baba means father in Turkic languages

[Methmatician]

i thought it meant dad
You're thinking of babo, which comes from the Turkish baba. But baba meant 'old lady' in Serbo-Croatian so last letter was changed to the letter O.

[Sarmatian]

So Milf is Bilf in Russia?

I see why you want to know...

It's just baba in any case ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUcA9EhyJaU

[Hurrem sultana]

Baba means father in Turkic languages

you got it from arabs(as did we,we say babo)

[RandoBloom]

Do Bosniaks have any pan-Slavic deities in their mythology. Baba-Yaga or Baba-roga ? Rusalkas?

There are some religious customs that survive from Illyrian times like the yearly gathering at Blagaj, a place where human sacrifices were perform to satisfy Bindus in ancient times.
That survived trough christianity and Islam up untill today.
The "Dovista" are remains of pagan tradition, places where ancient Gods were honoured and temples existed, now used to pray in an islamic way for something, like rain etc..

As for Slavic things, there are some, but are mostly used to scare kids, like telling them that there is a baba roga in a well so that they keep away from it

[Temujin]

As for Slavic things, there are some, but are mostly used to scare kids, like telling them that there is a baba roga in a well so that they keep away from it

There are many which are Slavic as shown by another Bosniak member, which makes sense because Bosniaks are Slavs.

[Gorštak]

There are many which are Slavic as shown by another Bosniak member, which makes sense because Bosniaks are Slavs.

You don't want to say that to one pan - Illyrianist.

[RandoBloom]

There are many which are Slavic as shown by another Bosniak member, which makes sense because Bosniaks are Slavs.

We arent. Its just that we are surounded by them so we take in some of their culture

[Temujin]

We arent. Its just that we are surounded by them so we take in some of their culture

I wouldn't be speaking on behalf of all Bosniaks if I were you, as your opinion doesn't represent that of all Bosniaks. Clearly, Bosniaks are Slavs linguistically and genetically.

[RandoBloom]

I wouldn't be speaking on behalf of all Bosniaks if I were you, as your opinion doesn't represent that of all Bosniaks. Clearly, Bosniaks are Slavs linguistically and genetically.

Bosniaks never agree with one another, if for nothing else but to disagree. Its a tradition. Only when there is grave danged do they unite :D
So I wouldnt take that as representative of general Bosniak opinion.
Black swan and Dado are unique among Bosniaks but well represented here.
As for language, as I said, when you have slavs on your north, south, east, west and everywhere in between something has to brush off.
We have been severed from southern Illyrians by them so we made best with what we could.
And genetics say Illyrians, customs and traditions also scream Illyrian :D
So good luck with that :D

[Temujin]

Bosniaks never agree with one another, if for nothing else but to disagree. Its a tradition. Only when there is grave danged do they unite :D
So I wouldnt take that as representative of general Bosniak opinion.
Black swan and Dado are unique among Bosniaks but well represented here.
As for language, as I said, when you have slavs on your north, south, east, west and everywhere in between something has to brush off.
We have been severed from southern Illyrians by them so we made best with what we could.
And genetics say Illyrians, customs and traditions also scream Illyrian :D
So good luck with that :D


You are like all southern Slavs in more than one way, who cluster with central European Slavs. So, identifying yourself as Illyrian would essentially mean identifying other Slavic nations Illyrian which is strange. Illyrian is a political construct which serves a certain political goal. You see, the reality is different. Instead of believing in pseudo-theories, you should be adopting a notion truth above all because BS will be revealed sooner or later to your disappointment.

[Gorštak]

Bosniaks never agree with one another, if for nothing else but to disagree. Its a tradition. Only when there is grave danged do they unite :D
So I wouldnt take that as representative of general Bosniak opinion.
Black swan and Dado are unique among Bosniaks but well represented here.
As for language, as I said, when you have slavs on your north, south, east, west and everywhere in between something has to brush off.
We have been severed from southern Illyrians by them so we made best with what we could.
And genetics say Illyrians, customs and traditions also scream Illyrian :D
So good luck with that :D

I always imagined myself as stereotypical Bosniak:whistle:
dado is either :crazy:, either troll, either non Bosniak who claim he is one.
And don't flatter to yourself, you're not typical Bosniak at all, you are actually most radical Bosniak in attitudes that I meet in life, you are leaving the impression you would start a war against somebody immediately after you would gain power:laugh:

[Gorštak]

You are like all southern Slavs in more than one way, who cluster with central European Slavs. So, identifying yourself as Illyrian would essentially mean identifying other Slavic nations Illyrian which is strange. Illyrian is a political construct which serves a certain political goal. You see, the reality is different. Instead of believing in pseudo-theories, you should be adopting a notion truth above all because BS will be revealed sooner or later to your disappointment.

It kinda could be said for Slavic also.

[Temujin]

It kinda could be said for Slavic also.

How so if the population has been Slavic speaking for 1,500 years being genetically similar to other Slavs?

[Guapo]

both black swine and hruljo buljo are faggot phallus worshippers.

[RandoBloom]

You are like all southern Slavs in more than one way, who cluster with central European Slavs. So, identifying yourself as Illyrian would essentially mean identifying other Slavic nations Illyrian which is strange. Illyrian is a political construct which serves a certain political goal. You see, the reality is different. Instead of believing in pseudo-theories, you should be adopting a notion truth above all because BS will be revealed sooner or later to your disappointment.
Other slavs are Illyrian ?
First problem, we arent slavic. Thus slavs cant be Illyrian.
We are simply slavic speaking.
And what political purpose does Illyrianism serve versus Slavism?



How so if the population has been Slavic speaking for 1,500 years being genetically similar to other Slavs?

And Illyrians have been Illyrian speaking for milenia


I always imagined myself as stereotypical Bosniak:whistle:
dado is either :crazy:, either troll, either non Bosniak who claim he is one.
And don't flatter to yourself, you're not typical Bosniak at all, you are actually most radical Bosniak in attitudes that I meet in life, you are leaving the impression you would start a war against somebody immediately after you would gain power:laugh:

Nah, you are not. At least with regards to being slav and slavic identity.
I think he is a troll who doesnt know when to stop.
A mozda nama treba netko radikalan. Ne znam, mozda je do mene brate, al evo ovih 500 godina tolerancije nam se samo odbilo od glavu.
Mozda je krajnji vakat da i mi kao drugi, kulturno se smijesimo dok sutamo nogom u glavu :)
Srbi ionako nisu zahvalni zbog nase tolerancije, dapace, jos su gori.

[Temujin]

Other slavs are Illyrian ?
First problem, we arent slavic. Thus slavs cant be Illyrian.
We are simply slavic speaking.
And what political purpose does Illyrianism serve versus Slavism?

Slavic language was God given to you? I know enough about population genetics to see that Bosniaks are genetically similar to southern Slavs and cluster with central Slavs, while Albanians and Greeks are being different. Slavism has nothing to do with the fact Bosniaks are Slavs. Bosniaks have been Slavs for a long time, while Slavism is relatively recent concept.

[Guapo]

Slavic language was God given to you? I know enough about population genetics to see that Bosniaks are genetically similar to southern Slavs and cluster with central Slavs, while Albanians and Greeks are being different. Slavism has nothing to do with the fact Bosniaks are Slavs. Bosniaks have been Slavs for a long time, while Slavism is relatively recent concept.

He is not worth your time. btw...

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?94287-Serbs-amp-Bosniaks-Genetic-kinship/page7

[Methmatician]

First problem, we arent slavic. Thus slavs cant be Illyrian.
We are simply slavic speaking.

Shit for brains here doesn't seem to understand that he is descended from Slavs and speaks a Slavic language;
∴ Slavic

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Rage_face.png

[Guapo]

And Illyrians have been Illyrian speaking for milenia




Lol source? you are full of shit so much


Shit for brains here doesn't seem to understand that he is descended from Slavs and speaks a Slavic language;
∴ Slavic



shit for brains indeed along with his bf black swine

[RandoBloom]

Slavic language was God given to you? I know enough about population genetics to see that Bosniaks are genetically similar to southern Slavs and cluster with central Slavs, while Albanians and Greeks are being different. Slavism has nothing to do with the fact Bosniaks are Slavs. Bosniaks have been Slavs for a long time, while Slavism is relatively recent concept.

Slavic language was forced upon us by circuimstances.
http://i.imgur.com/9Qh9UW5.jpg
As you can see, Bosnia is surounded by Slavic countries and had to addapt.
But just as it served as a refugium during ice ages it served as refugium during invasion of slavic barbarians.
I dont acknowledge that data, not enough people are tested and no nationalities in Bosnia is mentioned. You should remember that Slavs were imported in Bosnia during Ottoman times to toil the land (Serbs)
No they havent.
We have nothing in common with slavs except language, not to mention how much they hate us and not acknowledge us at all.

[Guapo]

You should remember that Slavs were imported in Bosnia during Ottoman times to toil the land (Serbs)


another stupid bosniak theory debunked by genetics

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?94287-Serbs-amp-Bosniaks-Genetic-kinship/page7[/QUOTE]

[Windischer]

natively slavic-speaking = slavic
no comment needed

[KeinMitleid]

They probably do in the same way that Christian Slavs (contradiction in terms but whatever) do. As folkish myths and fairy tales.