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Hello. I recently got a somewhat intruding private message in another forum to join here. Username was Vlach83
My name is Kreshnik and im Albanian descend.
http://i27.tinypic.com/29az81l.jpg
I would like to get acquainted. What's the nationality of members that participare in this forum? In the private message they said its about Europen preservation. What kind of cultural and ethnic preservation does this board argue for?
Greetings!!
Beorn
07-23-2009, 01:32 AM
Welcome. Aslong as you are pleasant towards your fellow forum members and hold a very loyalist outlook towards the preservation of European values and culture, then you are very welcome. :)
Aemma
07-23-2009, 01:35 AM
Hello and welcome Kreshnik! Canadian I see! Hey wonderful! We need more of us here! ;)
Anyway to answer your question, we are a discussion board which focuses on European cultural and ethnic preservation. A good majority of our membership tends to come from the more Celto-Germanic stream of Europeans but we do enjoy the company of other Europeans as well. :)
You no doubt have already come across some threads that discuss the place of Albania in Europe. It seems to be the discussion du jour. :D But more interesting would be some posts about your culture so some of us can learn about you in this fashion. :) Having said that, welcome here. Please make yourslf at home, poke around and join in the fun!
Cheers for now!...Another Canadian, Aemma :)
Thank You Aemma. Living up to the stereotype of Canadians being the friendliest people in the world. :D
Anyways a little about myself.
I've been in Canada for 15 years now. I go to Albania every year, usually during summer. The country, although a bit chaotic has wonderful mountains and crystal clear beaches.
My areas of interest have been in physical anthropology. Hopefully, i will learn something here from other fellow members. Also i will try to contribute with material when i can.
Cheers!
Loyalist
07-23-2009, 02:04 AM
What kind of cultural and ethnic preservation does this board argue for?
His kind. :)
http://i29.tinypic.com/63yhkk.jpg
sturmwalkure
07-23-2009, 02:18 AM
Welcome to The Apricity Kreshnik. :)
Balkan politics are often complex. That person believed in a greater Serbdom at the expense of other European people(Croats,Albanians and Bosniaks). Balkan overall is a region which is extremely alike. Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs and Albanians are all an overwhelmingly dinaric nation with large percentages of Meds. I will be posting about that later on the similarities of our nations.
Anyways, it would be better if we leave this subject out of this thread.
Welcome to The Apricity Kreshnik. :)
:thumbs up
Fortis in Arduis
07-23-2009, 02:29 AM
To be honest, I feel that racialism and secular nationalism are more relevant than religion and national border disputes in 2009.
Osweo
07-23-2009, 02:35 AM
im Albanian descend.
...
I've been in Canada for 15 years now.
You are not "of Albanian descent". You are an Albanian.
Many here have misgivings about your people, putting it mildly. I try to judge on a person by person basis, at least on web forums, so, for the moment, welcome to the Apricity! :yo:
You are not "of Albanian descent". You are an Albanian.
That is a little presumptuous. Even I don't tell you who or what you are, that is something you have to figure out for yourself. He's a Canadian of Albanian descent, I don't see anything incorrect with that declaration.
Guapo
07-23-2009, 07:14 AM
. Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs and Albanians are all an overwhelmingly dinaric nation with large percentages of Meds.
Welcome.I would'nt necessarily say "overwhelmingly" Dinarid. Depends on which anthropologist you go by.I don't prefer Coon rather old-school Yugoslav anthropologists Božo Škerlj and Branimir Maleš.
Brynhild
07-23-2009, 07:16 AM
Welcome to Apricity! I'm an Australian nationalist of European descent, and as far as I'm concerned, if you are interested in European preservation (regardless of where we are all from!), you are most welcome to be here!
I confess to knowing very little about Albanian history and culture, but I am curious nonetheless.:thumb001:
Im trying to learn how the Rep system works here.
Anyways, its getting late here. Gym tomorrow morning.
Later everyone.
Kreshnik = Cail based on IP address.
Accounts merged, as multiple accounts are not allowed.
Kreshnik = Cail based on IP address.
Accounts merged, as multiple accounts are not allowed.
I don't get this? Is:
A - Kreshnik the same person as Cail?
B - Kreshnik a totally different person using Cail's account?
C - Has Cail been possessed?
I don't get this? Is:
A - Kreshnik the same person as Cail?
B - Kreshnik a totally different person using Cail's account?
C - Has Cail been possessed?
A
A
What about his pics then? And all this Belorussian-Lithuanian thing?
Radojica
07-23-2009, 08:54 AM
This is what happen when you talk too much about Albanians... Suddenly, they all turn out to be ones...Cail, LOL :D
What about his pics then? And all this Belorussian-Lithuanian thing?
I don't understand the question. What about it?
I don't understand the question. What about it?
Was this all made up?
Svarog
07-23-2009, 09:02 AM
I knew he is an Albanian a week ago.
The Lawspeaker
07-23-2009, 09:03 AM
That he wonders why Cail first registred as a Belorussian-Lithuanian living in the U.K ? And I wonder too.
Was this all made up?
Cail posed as an Albanian. Cail's profile is probably real.
I knew he is an Albanian a week ago.
You couldn't have, he registered only yesterday.
Svarog
07-23-2009, 09:16 AM
nope, Cail did not.
nope, Cail did not.
But Cail is not an Albanian.
Svarog
07-23-2009, 09:21 AM
I'm sure he is, he speaks Albanian while he don't speak Russian or Lithuanian, he was more interested in Albanian issues than Baltic or Slavic ones, the fact he did not make a single post or a contribution into the Lithuanian forum of which he is so proud while browsing through his post count there are dozens of posts concerning Albania, I was sure he is an Albanian, or very poor Lithuanian or Belorussian patriot, starting with his location.
I'm sure he is, he speaks Albanian while he don't speak Russian or Lithuanian, he was more interested in Albanian issues than Baltic or Slavic ones, the fact he did not made a single post or a contribution into the Lithuanian forum of which he is so proud while browsing through his post count there are dozens of post concerning Albania, I was sure he is an Albanian, or very poor Lithuanian or Belorussian patriot, starting with his location.
It's quite possible, maybe you're right. In any case both are banned now.
The Lawspeaker
07-23-2009, 09:23 AM
He looks quite Slavic for an Albanian then. But then again the pictures could be fake.
Svarog
07-23-2009, 09:26 AM
He looks quite Slavic for an Albanian then. But then again the pictures could be fake.
He actually looks more Baltic than Slavic imo, but, he made up a whole life story, what tells us he could not do the same with the pic, he can't speak a word of Russian, not to mention read it.
Albanians can look whatever, they can look as Liebenfels' or Himmler's principle of an ideal Aryn God Man or whatever, blond, blue eyed, Nordic chin and nose, they can look as Turkish mongrels or just as any other European, if you'd ask me how a typical Albanian looks like I'd say I have no idea and I saw quite a few in my life, unfortunately.
The Lawspeaker
07-23-2009, 09:31 AM
Then I learned something new today.:D
Poltergeist
07-23-2009, 09:33 AM
He actually looks more Baltic than Slavic imo, but, he made up a whole life story, what tells us he could not do the same with the pic, he can't speak a word of Russian, not to mention read it.
Albanians can look whatever, they can look as Liebenfels' or Himmler's principle of an ideal Aryn God Man or whatever, blond, blue eyed, Nordic chin and nose, they can look as Turkish mongrels or just as any other European, if you'd ask me how a typical Albanian looks like I'd say I have no idea and I saw quite a few in my life, unfortunately.
My experience: they are an extremely diverse population. Some look like real middle easterners or Turks, others like true Mediterraneans (could be mistaken for an Italian), others display some Nordic features (blond hair and eyes). The northern Albanians tend to look very Dinaric, like Montenegrins etc. There are both tall and short among them, curly and straight hair etc. No general rules.
Vulpix
07-23-2009, 09:38 AM
My poor head :speechless-smiley-0 ...
Radojica
07-23-2009, 04:13 PM
He is not an Albanian, neither is Macedonia... Those guys saw that epic thread about Albanians and they decided to fool us all around.... We are a joke to them, nothing else... Macedonia is not writing like and Albanian who hates Serbs, i met quite few of them all over internet and i can recognize their style of writing....
Guapo
07-23-2009, 04:18 PM
He is not an Albanian, neither is Macedonia... Those guys saw that epic thread about Albanians and they decided to fool us all around.... We are a joke to them, nothing else... Macedonia is not writing like and Albanian who hates Serbs, i met quite few of them all over internet and i can recognize their style of writing....
True.I think Macedonia is actually an everyone-hating macedonian Slav while Kreshnik was too pacifistic to be albanian :D
Goidelic
07-23-2009, 04:19 PM
I wonder if Tonsor was Cail?
Radojica
07-23-2009, 04:19 PM
True.I think Macedonia is actually an everyone-hating macedonian Slav while Kreshnik was too pacifistic to be albanian :D
I know Kreshnik (Cail) from other forum and i know his attitude toward Albanians. He is not an Albanian.
Goidelic
07-23-2009, 04:21 PM
I know Kreshnik (Cail) from other forum and i know his attitude toward Albanians. He is not an Albanian.
Do you think Tonsor could have really been Cail? You noticed Tonsor stopped posting after a while... ;)
Radojica
07-23-2009, 04:23 PM
Do you think Tonsor could have really been Cail? You noticed Tonsor stopped posting after a while... ;)
Tonsor could be albanian and he stopped posting after that thread about them.
I wonder if Tonsor was Cail?
I can assure you, that is impossible.
Loyalist
07-23-2009, 04:40 PM
All these threads and hundreds of posts on this Albanian nonsense could be averted, and this forum's credibility ensured, by simply adopting a no-Albanians policy. :rolleyes:
All these threads and hundreds of posts on this Albanian nonsense could be averted, and this forum's credibility ensured, by simply adopting a no-Albanians policy. :rolleyes:
That is a possibility, but we don't make rash decisions about important matters - we think them through. THIS will establish an even stronger credibility.
As for the post count ... it is a positive. ;)
Goidelic
07-23-2009, 04:51 PM
That is a possibility, but we don't make rash decisions about important matters - we think them through. THIS will establish an even stronger credibility.
As for the post count ... it is a positive. ;)
I think you have a point, but why are we getting so many Trolls lately? Cail, Kreshnik, Macedonia etc.? I don't think Tonsor was a Troll, but you never know.
Æmeric
07-23-2009, 05:24 PM
An IP ban on Albania & Kosovo is needed. Only Albanians smart enough to use a proxy would be able to login. That should increase the quality of persons registering from those areas, if any.
An IP ban on Albania & Kosovo is needed. Only Albanians smart enough to use a proxy would be able to login. That should increase the quality of persons registering from those areas, if any.
But ... then we would block out so many American soldiers! :(
Svarog
07-23-2009, 06:06 PM
They could go home and let Serbs take care of the thing that is of no concern to the United States. I bet their wives and girlfriends need them more
Svarog
07-23-2009, 06:14 PM
and beside, most Albanians logs in from Sweden, Norway and Finland.
Brännvin
07-23-2009, 06:48 PM
An IP ban on Albania & Kosovo is needed. Only Albanians smart enough to use a proxy would be able to login. That should increase the quality of persons registering from those areas, if any.
From London or Zurich where lives half those Balkan criminals. :speechless-smiley-0
Tonsor also could be a troll, that suposedly "muslim" avatar is instigating for me.
All these threads and hundreds of posts on this Albanian nonsense could be averted, and this forum's credibility ensured, by simply adopting a no-Albanians policy. :rolleyes:
Agreed.
That is a possibility, but we don't make rash decisions about important matters - we think them through. THIS will establish an even stronger credibility.
That's a good policy and my suggestion would be that you please do factor in the past couple of days of animosity caused by this and that the majority of the Albanians who joined turned out to be trolls.
As for the post count ... it is a positive. ;)
I realize that the board leaders wish for The Apricity to grow, yet dropping quality for quantity isn't something to be taken too far if the board wants to keep a good reputation. Quality > Quantity. It'd be better to be focused on recruiting more quality posters than to watch hundreds of trollish/flamer-ish posts as I'm sure you well know.
That's just my two cents on the whole thing. :)
Tabiti
07-23-2009, 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by Loyalist
All these threads and hundreds of posts on this Albanian nonsense could be averted, and this forum's credibility ensured, by simply adopting a no-Albanians policy.
Well, it weren't only the Albanians themselves to contribute for recent nonsense flooding. They only provoked some old, unsettled problems in relationships between members to rise again.
That's a good policy and my suggestion would be that you please do factor in the past couple of days of animosity caused by this and that the majority of the Albanians who joined turned out to be trolls.
Of course. Yet the animosity was only partially caused by the Albanians. Most of the hullabaloo started with Tonsor, who hasn't even made many posts, and left on his own account. A large factor in all of us, is lack of trust from members, lack of patience, lack of tolerance and lack of respect.
I realize that the board leaders wish for The Apricity to grow, yet dropping quality for quantity isn't something to be taken too far if the board wants to keep a good reputation. Quality > Quantity. It'd be better to be focused on recruiting more quality posters than to watch hundreds of trollish/flamer-ish posts as I'm sure you well know.
That's just my two cents on the whole thing. :)
Oh, don't worry I am very aware of this. At least quality should not be that strict, that the forum stagnates and dies like PAA has. :wink
I have at least 8 years experience in internet forum administration, and these are not new issues. I have seen them time and again. I am mostly disappointed by the lack of trust from old, established members. People get emotional and lose their minds too quickly. There is a lesson for all of us to learn in this.
Poltergeist
07-23-2009, 09:18 PM
They could go home and let Serbs take care of the thing that is of no concern to the United States.
Send a request to Obama.
Brännvin
07-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Send a request to Obama.
Whoa! I doubt that Obama will agree :D
Germanicus
07-23-2009, 09:33 PM
Just before i turned in for the evening my last post ended on "You are trouble"
This was directed at Macedonia,, Was i right in my assumption?
Loki quote..
I have at least 8 years experience in internet forum administration, and these are not new issues. I have seen them time and again. I am mostly disappointed by the lack of trust from old, established members. People get emotional and lose their minds too quickly. There is a lesson for all of us to learn in this.
My experience of Albanian members is not biased, nor is it from lack of patience, but when you see a member like that who knows his way around a forum board he is not to be taken lightly, as i said in my last post from last night, Macedoia had an agenda, i was right.
Of course. Yet the animosity was only partially caused by the Albanians. Most of the hullabaloo started with Tonsor, who hasn't even made many posts, and left on his own account. A large factor in all of us, is lack of trust from members, lack of patience, lack of tolerance and lack of respect.
You're right, but the whole Albanian issue isn't new to everybody. You as a leader make a certain decision and it's right to you, yet that may be seen as the wrong decision by others. Some will voice disagreement rather than to just go along with it. I respected the decision, the fact that I'm still here proves so, yet I didn't expect much other than animosity. You see, it may be right that Albanians should be allowed to join here, but the right decision isn't always the best for the forum's well being, that was the way I saw it. I understand your position as well.
Oh, don't worry I am very aware of this. At least quality should not be that strict, that the forum stagnates and dies like PAA has. :wink
Yes, I didn't mean obsess over quality like PAA. :p That was an elitist point of view which I disagreed with as a senior moderator then an administrator but the webmaster chose to go with what she thought best. What could anyone else have done? So it rotted out. Sometimes having one absolute leader doesn't work for the best, especially one who isn't always the best listener.
I have at least 8 years experience in internet forum administration, and these are not new issues. I have seen them time and again. I am mostly disappointed by the lack of trust from old, established members. People get emotional and lose their minds too quickly. There is a lesson for all of us to learn in this.
Well said. Not keeping emotions in check causes an overreaction preventing any logical or productive outcome. :)
You as a leader make a certain decision and it's right to you, yet that may be seen as the wrong decision by others. Some will voice disagreement rather than to just go along with it.
This is often the case, there is little one can do about it. As a leader one has to live with it. People will get pissed off at me, it's part of the deal.
I respected the decision, the fact that I'm still here proves so,
You are very mature for your age. Impressive.
You see, it may be right that Albanians should be allowed to join here, but the right decision isn't always the best for the forum's well being, that was the way I saw it. I understand your position as well.
This is the point that people don't get. We didn't make a decision to all of a sudden allow Albanians. Albanians are not even mentioned in forum rules, they are fairly high level and non-specific as far as nations are concerned. The only thing that is mentioned currently is Europe. Never at any point in Apricity's history were Albanians barred from joining by the rules. We have discussed "Who is Europe" a couple of times ... there are long threads about that. Many inevitably lead to Italian-bashing by Nordicists who considered Italians not to be white. So these threads did not really produce anything concrete.
We are in the process of writing new rules, but it will take time and thought. Please bear with us. I am fully aware that a Muslim Albanian is most certainly not compatible with this forum's outlook and mission. For now, we will treat cases on an individual basis until we have more clarity. And by that I don't mean knee-jerk action. Those who expect that from me or other staff will be disappointed.
Nodens
07-23-2009, 10:07 PM
I am fully aware that a Muslim Albanian is most certainly not compatible with this forum's outlook and mission.
I'd have to say it would depend on judt how Muslim they actually are, as the (admittedly few) Muslim Albanians I've know had more in common with Southern/Eastern European Catholics than any extra-European Muslims.
Germanicus
07-23-2009, 10:14 PM
This is the point that people don't get. We didn't make a decision to all of a sudden allow Albanians. Albanians are not even mentioned in forum rules, they are fairly high level and non-specific as far as nations are concerned. The only thing that is mentioned currently is Europe. Never at any point in Apricity's history were Albanians barred from joining by the rules. We have discussed "Who is Europe" a couple of times ... there are long threads about that. Many inevitably lead to Italian-bashing by Nordicists who considered Italians not to be white. So these threads did not really produce anything concrete.
We are in the process of writing new rules, but it will take time and thought. Please bear with us. I am fully aware that a Muslim Albanian is most certainly not compatible with this forum's outlook and mission. For now, we will treat cases on an individual basis until we have more clarity. And by that I don't mean knee-jerk action. Those who expect that from me or other staff will be disappointed.
Quite understandable, for as you know most members use this forum for knowledge, insight, and to share the same ideals.
Macedonia stuck out like a sore thumb, it was plain to see.
Rightly you have stated each case will be treated on an individual basis, for this is a good decision from good leadership.
This is often the case, there is little one can do about it. As a leader one has to live with it. People will get pissed off at me, it's part of the deal.
Exactly, my experience as a forum leader proved the same. I was made senior moderator because there was a lot of Balkan drama on PAA at the time. We formed a special council and made rules. Of course some were still unhappy, but you can't win them all.
This is the point that people don't get. We didn't make a decision to all of a sudden allow Albanians.
The belief of that was caused by 3-4 of them joining in a couple of days whereas there were none prior to that (I believe?). It's good to have that cleared up.
We are in the process of writing new rules, but it will take time and thought. Please bear with us. I am fully aware that a Muslim Albanian is most certainly not compatible with this forum's outlook and mission. For now, we will treat cases on an individual basis until we have more clarity. And by that I don't mean knee-jerk action. Those who expect that from me or other staff will be disappointed.
Good decision.
Lol. I must say that this whole thread was a big fuck up :D. I apparently got my account stolen, and somebody wrote all this bullshit (and then got banned for multiaccounting - apparently after stealing several other accs from the same IP). I didn't know about all this cause i've been inactive for a long time. Just got unbanned and saw these posts by "me" and was like wtf.
I assure you i'm not an Albanian or whatever. Last post by real "me" here was this one - http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=69450#post69450.
I'm surprised people here actually believed this bullshit, esp after i had classification thread were i clearly stated i was Lithuanian and posted my pics (that differed from the one the thief posted in the 1st post of this topic).
I'm the same Cail from anthroforum.com (now forumbiodiversity.com).
It's all very confusing. But, welcome back Cail. And perhaps it's a good idea to change your account's password.
The Lawspeaker
11-14-2009, 05:43 PM
Interesting development....
Anyroad.. welcome back..
Interesting development....
Anyroad.. welcome back..
It's not an "interesting development". There was an Albanian member who had the same IP address as Cail. We admins noticed it. Then, the two accounts were merged and banned for multi-accounting. Perhaps they used the same internet cafe or something, who knows.
The Lawspeaker
11-14-2009, 05:49 PM
It's not an "interesting development". There was an Albanian member who had the same IP address as Cail. We admins noticed it. Then, the two accounts were merged and banned for multi-accounting. Perhaps they used the same internet cafe or something, who knows.
I was being sarcastic and somewhat surprised as I didn't see this one coming. The question remains: why would some Albanian want to hack Cail's account ?
Did you have enemies out there, Cail ?
I was being sarcastic and somewhat surprised as I didn't see this one coming. The question remains: why would some Albanian want to hack Cail's account ?
Did you have enemies out there, Cail ?
Nobody hacked Cail's account. Please re-read my post carefully.
It's not an "interesting development". There was an Albanian member who had the same IP address as Cail. We admins noticed it. Then, the two accounts were merged and banned for multi-accounting. Perhaps they used the same internet cafe or something, who knows.
Oh, so there was no actual thievery? I apologize to that Albanian guy than. The merging is what caused all misundestanding. Can you undo that?
Btw i was prompted to check on my account here by your post on forumbiodiversity :).
The Lawspeaker
11-14-2009, 05:52 PM
Right. This makes it all even more peculiar.
Oh, so there was no actual thievery? I apologize to that Albanian guy than. The merging is what caused all misundestanding. Can you undo that?
Yep, the merging caused the confusion. And no, unfortunately it cannot be undone.
I was being sarcastic and somewhat surprised as I didn't see this one coming. The question remains: why would some Albanian want to hack Cail's account ?
Did you have enemies out there, Cail ?
As far as i understand, there was no hacking, just somehow (accidentally) my IP coincided with IP of this Albanian's account, which led to admins' merging our accs (none of us knew it). The Albanian guy then found his acc dissapearing, and started creating new ones that got subsequently banned (while i've been inactive for some time by that moment).
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