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Mark
11-27-2012, 08:40 AM
http://fleamarketfunk.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/sergio-mendes.gif?w=590
http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/sergio_mendes_500px_thumb.jpg
http://www.htbackdrops.com/v2/albums/userpics/10257/normal_Sergio_Mendes.jpg
http://www.selectiveautographs.com/files/images/131001.jpe

Rouxinol
11-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Wonderful music he does. He's like 30-40% black.

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Mark
11-27-2012, 07:39 PM
Didn't realize he was part Black. I just thought he was Amerindian and European.

aherne
11-28-2012, 04:50 AM
Not part Black, since his hair is absolutely straight. It's doubtful he's mixed either. In last picture he has stereotypical Iberian looks. Maybe a mix of Iberian and Morisco?

Rouxinol
11-28-2012, 04:54 AM
I think the black component is self-evident on his older pictures:

http://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/739475/739475.jpg

At least where I was raised in this is seen as a whiter than average mulatto.

His pronounced midfacial prognathism is also an indicator:

http://www.htbackdrops.com/v2/albums/userpics/10257/Sergio_Mendes.jpg

aherne
11-28-2012, 06:06 PM
I think the black component is self-evident on his older pictures:

http://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/739475/739475.jpg

At least where I was raised in this is seen as a whiter than average mulatto.

His pronounced midfacial prognathism is also an indicator:

http://www.htbackdrops.com/v2/albums/userpics/10257/Sergio_Mendes.jpg

Sorry to tell you, but he's indistinguishable from many darker Portuguese. Maranno/Morisco admixture (hence a pseudo-levantine look in some pictures) is easy to explain historically. But he's far from darkest Portuguese i've seen. Also, his hair is definitive proof he's not a mullatto or even a quadroon. It should have had curly tendencies, but his is completely straight. Also, race is more properly evaluated in pictures from young age, where he looks as Caucasoid as anyone.

Nurzat
11-28-2012, 06:13 PM
looks utterly iberian, especially the lower face

Damiăo de Góis
11-28-2012, 08:45 PM
https://sowhatsnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sergio_mendes.jpg

He looks very romanian to me

Sikeliot
11-28-2012, 08:46 PM
Clearly part black.

Rouxinol
11-28-2012, 08:48 PM
^ I don't know whether he looks Romanian or not - nor do I care, really, about Romania(ns) and their looks. Portuguese/Iberian he doesn't look for sure - not even as the darkest, ethnic, indigenous types. Where I do live he would be, at best, an octoroon and spotted out straight away as Brazilian - no questions asked. Absolutely anything to do with "Marrano/Morisco" or whatever of sorts.

Ira di Dio
11-28-2012, 08:49 PM
He's Brazilian so the non-Portu part must be Italian, that's why.

Slycooper
11-28-2012, 09:14 PM
Very Brazilian looking.

Mark
11-29-2012, 01:47 AM
Ultimately, I just see him as Brazilian too.

Atlantic Islander
11-29-2012, 02:30 AM
He only looks Portuguese in the fourth photo (the signed one).

Mark
11-29-2012, 02:41 AM
He only looks Portuguese in the fourth photo (the signed one).
Totally agree. :)

Nurzat
11-30-2012, 03:51 PM
https://sowhatsnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sergio_mendes.jpg

He looks very romanian to me

lol dude, he looks clearly iberian :D plus... the fact that he has some remote black ancestry is not putting him out of iberia since 1 to 4% black genes are by default in all iberians, just like easterners have a certain amount of siberian blood by default. however, it is hilarious to say he doesn't look iberian - no one says he is typical, but it is for sure the only place you would place him

aherne
11-30-2012, 07:50 PM
lol dude, he looks clearly iberian :D plus... the fact that he has some remote black ancestry is not putting him out of iberia since 1 to 4% black genes are by default in all iberians, just like easterners have a certain amount of siberian blood by default. however, it is hilarious to say he doesn't look iberian - no one says he is typical, but it is for sure the only place you would place him

Same usual suspects hilariously argued that even Kaka is a mulatto:))

Slycooper
11-30-2012, 07:52 PM
He clearley has some african ancestry

Rouxinol
11-30-2012, 07:53 PM
He clearley has some african ancestry

Certainly more than 1 to 4%. But ok, he would pass here and no one would ever mistake him for a considerably SSA-mixed Brazilian without blinking an eye. Outsiders know better. :lol:

Slycooper
11-30-2012, 07:56 PM
Certainly more than 1 to 4%. But ok, he would pass here and no one would ever mistake him for a considerably SSA-mixed Brazilian without blinking an eye. Outsiders know better. :lol:

lol come to think of it he could pass

Nurzat
11-30-2012, 08:08 PM
has a steve buscemi vibe

(buscemi is half italian half irish american)

Rouxinol
11-30-2012, 08:09 PM
lol come to think of it he could pass

While he could eventually pass here:

http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/236/236410_1_f.jpg

He definitely would not here:

http://www.wmeentertainment.com/sergio_mendes/imgs/sergio_mendes_main.jpg

It's odd, but that is it.

Mark
11-30-2012, 08:15 PM
Could be in the mouth. When smiling, he appears more multiracial.

Rouxinol
11-30-2012, 08:19 PM
Could be in the mouth. When smiling, he appears more multiracial.

I guess you nailed it.

Damiăo de Góis
11-30-2012, 10:22 PM
lol dude, he looks clearly iberian :D plus... the fact that he has some remote black ancestry is not putting him out of iberia since 1 to 4% black genes are by default in all iberians, just like easterners have a certain amount of siberian blood by default. however, it is hilarious to say he doesn't look iberian - no one says he is typical, but it is for sure the only place you would place him

Saying this person looks Iberian is plain stupid, but ex-soviet countries are a bit backwards, so i'm not too surprised..

http://orfaosdoloronix.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/sergio-mendes-i_believe.jpg

But when i said he looked romanian i wasn't joking:

http://worldcupfifa14.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dumitrescu.jpg

Slycooper
11-30-2012, 10:27 PM
When Portuguese and African mix it creates like one look which he def has. Looks Very Brazilian. Kinda like Kaka he has that Brazilian look to his eyes.

Nurzat
12-01-2012, 06:32 AM
Saying this person looks Iberian is plain stupid, but ex-soviet countries are a bit backwards, so i'm not too surprised..

But when i said he looked romanian i wasn't joking:

http://worldcupfifa14.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dumitrescu.jpg

you are plain stupid, delarge, and delusional :) plus, your example, ilie dumitrescu, is ethnically a gypsy, you may google it. fail! :)

Damiăo de Góis
12-01-2012, 04:09 PM
you are plain stupid, delarge, and delusional :) plus, your example, ilie dumitrescu, is ethnically a gypsy, you may google it. fail! :)

From what i've observed romanian posters are the ones with a higher stupidity per capita. They are de ones saying a brazilian mixed person looks iberian, for some strange reason. Apart from that, you'll find that have have no interest in romania, romanians or gypsies from reading my posts.

I don't find romanians too easy to tell apart from gypsies. For example, is Adrian Mutu a gypsy? I have no idea...

Sikeliot
12-01-2012, 04:18 PM
Honestly I still think he looks part black and not fully Iberian.

aherne
12-02-2012, 07:08 AM
While he could eventually pass here:

http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/236/236410_1_f.jpg


Older-age pictures are IRRELEVANT: facial muscles lose their firmness and skin starts to "drop", hence a more Cro-Magnid round-faced look in old people that were originally Aryan or Iberian. You have yourself provided a picture of him where he is more Iberian looking than probably 90% of Iberians in peninsula. That very long narrow fine face with (straight smooth) auburn hair and light skin tone is the embodiment of Iberian race.

Pobre Diablo
12-02-2012, 12:11 PM
Definitely part black, like most brasilians

Damiăo de Góis
12-02-2012, 04:04 PM
Older-age pictures are IRRELEVANT: facial muscles lose their firmness and skin starts to "drop", hence a more Cro-Magnid round-faced look in old people that were originally Aryan or Iberian. You have yourself provided a picture of him where he is more Iberian looking than probably 90% of Iberians in peninsula. That very long narrow fine face with (straight smooth) auburn hair and light skin tone is the embodiment of Iberian race.

Alright, so you think a mixed-race brazilian represents the embodiment of the iberian race..

http://orfaosdoloronix.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/sergio-mendes-i_believe.jpg

Would you like me to post now what i think is the embodiment of the romanian race?

Rouxinol
12-02-2012, 04:20 PM
Older-age pictures are IRRELEVANT: facial muscles lose their firmness and skin starts to "drop", hence a more Cro-Magnid round-faced look in old people that were originally Aryan or Iberian. You have yourself provided a picture of him where he is more Iberian looking than probably 90% of Iberians in peninsula. That very long narrow fine face with (straight smooth) auburn hair and light skin tone is the embodiment of Iberian race.

I get your point there. I am just not sure whether he is the best example of the embodiment of the Iberian race. To me a textbook example to describe such a race embodiment would be Portuguese bullfighter Pedrito de Portugal:

http://www.touroeouro.com/assets/site/userFiles/Pedrito2.jpg

Who lacks the midfacial prognathism of Sérgio Mendes (mouth area).

mikeyup
11-08-2013, 11:33 PM
he looks to exotic to pass as iberian to me… i would of thought brazillian as well.

Smeagol
11-09-2013, 01:01 AM
Looks mostly Iberian with slight admixture (in the younger photos). slight Amerindian, and maybe an Octoroon.