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Rouxinol
11-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Wonderful music he does. He's like 30-40% black.
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Didn't realize he was part Black. I just thought he was Amerindian and European.
aherne
11-28-2012, 04:50 AM
Not part Black, since his hair is absolutely straight. It's doubtful he's mixed either. In last picture he has stereotypical Iberian looks. Maybe a mix of Iberian and Morisco?
Rouxinol
11-28-2012, 04:54 AM
I think the black component is self-evident on his older pictures:
http://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/739475/739475.jpg
At least where I was raised in this is seen as a whiter than average mulatto.
His pronounced midfacial prognathism is also an indicator:
http://www.htbackdrops.com/v2/albums/userpics/10257/Sergio_Mendes.jpg
aherne
11-28-2012, 06:06 PM
I think the black component is self-evident on his older pictures:
http://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/739475/739475.jpg
At least where I was raised in this is seen as a whiter than average mulatto.
His pronounced midfacial prognathism is also an indicator:
http://www.htbackdrops.com/v2/albums/userpics/10257/Sergio_Mendes.jpg
Sorry to tell you, but he's indistinguishable from many darker Portuguese. Maranno/Morisco admixture (hence a pseudo-levantine look in some pictures) is easy to explain historically. But he's far from darkest Portuguese i've seen. Also, his hair is definitive proof he's not a mullatto or even a quadroon. It should have had curly tendencies, but his is completely straight. Also, race is more properly evaluated in pictures from young age, where he looks as Caucasoid as anyone.
Nurzat
11-28-2012, 06:13 PM
looks utterly iberian, especially the lower face
Damiăo de Góis
11-28-2012, 08:45 PM
https://sowhatsnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sergio_mendes.jpg
He looks very romanian to me
Sikeliot
11-28-2012, 08:46 PM
Clearly part black.
Rouxinol
11-28-2012, 08:48 PM
^ I don't know whether he looks Romanian or not - nor do I care, really, about Romania(ns) and their looks. Portuguese/Iberian he doesn't look for sure - not even as the darkest, ethnic, indigenous types. Where I do live he would be, at best, an octoroon and spotted out straight away as Brazilian - no questions asked. Absolutely anything to do with "Marrano/Morisco" or whatever of sorts.
Ira di Dio
11-28-2012, 08:49 PM
He's Brazilian so the non-Portu part must be Italian, that's why.
Slycooper
11-28-2012, 09:14 PM
Very Brazilian looking.
Ultimately, I just see him as Brazilian too.
Atlantic Islander
11-29-2012, 02:30 AM
He only looks Portuguese in the fourth photo (the signed one).
He only looks Portuguese in the fourth photo (the signed one).
Totally agree. :)
Nurzat
11-30-2012, 03:51 PM
https://sowhatsnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sergio_mendes.jpg
He looks very romanian to me
lol dude, he looks clearly iberian :D plus... the fact that he has some remote black ancestry is not putting him out of iberia since 1 to 4% black genes are by default in all iberians, just like easterners have a certain amount of siberian blood by default. however, it is hilarious to say he doesn't look iberian - no one says he is typical, but it is for sure the only place you would place him
aherne
11-30-2012, 07:50 PM
lol dude, he looks clearly iberian :D plus... the fact that he has some remote black ancestry is not putting him out of iberia since 1 to 4% black genes are by default in all iberians, just like easterners have a certain amount of siberian blood by default. however, it is hilarious to say he doesn't look iberian - no one says he is typical, but it is for sure the only place you would place him
Same usual suspects hilariously argued that even Kaka is a mulatto:))
Slycooper
11-30-2012, 07:52 PM
He clearley has some african ancestry
Rouxinol
11-30-2012, 07:53 PM
He clearley has some african ancestry
Certainly more than 1 to 4%. But ok, he would pass here and no one would ever mistake him for a considerably SSA-mixed Brazilian without blinking an eye. Outsiders know better. :lol:
Slycooper
11-30-2012, 07:56 PM
Certainly more than 1 to 4%. But ok, he would pass here and no one would ever mistake him for a considerably SSA-mixed Brazilian without blinking an eye. Outsiders know better. :lol:
lol come to think of it he could pass
Nurzat
11-30-2012, 08:08 PM
has a steve buscemi vibe
(buscemi is half italian half irish american)
Rouxinol
11-30-2012, 08:09 PM
lol come to think of it he could pass
While he could eventually pass here:
http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/236/236410_1_f.jpg
He definitely would not here:
http://www.wmeentertainment.com/sergio_mendes/imgs/sergio_mendes_main.jpg
It's odd, but that is it.
Could be in the mouth. When smiling, he appears more multiracial.
Rouxinol
11-30-2012, 08:19 PM
Could be in the mouth. When smiling, he appears more multiracial.
I guess you nailed it.
Damiăo de Góis
11-30-2012, 10:22 PM
lol dude, he looks clearly iberian :D plus... the fact that he has some remote black ancestry is not putting him out of iberia since 1 to 4% black genes are by default in all iberians, just like easterners have a certain amount of siberian blood by default. however, it is hilarious to say he doesn't look iberian - no one says he is typical, but it is for sure the only place you would place him
Saying this person looks Iberian is plain stupid, but ex-soviet countries are a bit backwards, so i'm not too surprised..
http://orfaosdoloronix.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/sergio-mendes-i_believe.jpg
But when i said he looked romanian i wasn't joking:
http://worldcupfifa14.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dumitrescu.jpg
Slycooper
11-30-2012, 10:27 PM
When Portuguese and African mix it creates like one look which he def has. Looks Very Brazilian. Kinda like Kaka he has that Brazilian look to his eyes.
Nurzat
12-01-2012, 06:32 AM
Saying this person looks Iberian is plain stupid, but ex-soviet countries are a bit backwards, so i'm not too surprised..
But when i said he looked romanian i wasn't joking:
http://worldcupfifa14.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dumitrescu.jpg
you are plain stupid, delarge, and delusional :) plus, your example, ilie dumitrescu, is ethnically a gypsy, you may google it. fail! :)
Damiăo de Góis
12-01-2012, 04:09 PM
you are plain stupid, delarge, and delusional :) plus, your example, ilie dumitrescu, is ethnically a gypsy, you may google it. fail! :)
From what i've observed romanian posters are the ones with a higher stupidity per capita. They are de ones saying a brazilian mixed person looks iberian, for some strange reason. Apart from that, you'll find that have have no interest in romania, romanians or gypsies from reading my posts.
I don't find romanians too easy to tell apart from gypsies. For example, is Adrian Mutu a gypsy? I have no idea...
Sikeliot
12-01-2012, 04:18 PM
Honestly I still think he looks part black and not fully Iberian.
aherne
12-02-2012, 07:08 AM
While he could eventually pass here:
http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/236/236410_1_f.jpg
Older-age pictures are IRRELEVANT: facial muscles lose their firmness and skin starts to "drop", hence a more Cro-Magnid round-faced look in old people that were originally Aryan or Iberian. You have yourself provided a picture of him where he is more Iberian looking than probably 90% of Iberians in peninsula. That very long narrow fine face with (straight smooth) auburn hair and light skin tone is the embodiment of Iberian race.
Pobre Diablo
12-02-2012, 12:11 PM
Definitely part black, like most brasilians
Damiăo de Góis
12-02-2012, 04:04 PM
Older-age pictures are IRRELEVANT: facial muscles lose their firmness and skin starts to "drop", hence a more Cro-Magnid round-faced look in old people that were originally Aryan or Iberian. You have yourself provided a picture of him where he is more Iberian looking than probably 90% of Iberians in peninsula. That very long narrow fine face with (straight smooth) auburn hair and light skin tone is the embodiment of Iberian race.
Alright, so you think a mixed-race brazilian represents the embodiment of the iberian race..
http://orfaosdoloronix.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/sergio-mendes-i_believe.jpg
Would you like me to post now what i think is the embodiment of the romanian race?
Rouxinol
12-02-2012, 04:20 PM
Older-age pictures are IRRELEVANT: facial muscles lose their firmness and skin starts to "drop", hence a more Cro-Magnid round-faced look in old people that were originally Aryan or Iberian. You have yourself provided a picture of him where he is more Iberian looking than probably 90% of Iberians in peninsula. That very long narrow fine face with (straight smooth) auburn hair and light skin tone is the embodiment of Iberian race.
I get your point there. I am just not sure whether he is the best example of the embodiment of the Iberian race. To me a textbook example to describe such a race embodiment would be Portuguese bullfighter Pedrito de Portugal:
http://www.touroeouro.com/assets/site/userFiles/Pedrito2.jpg
Who lacks the midfacial prognathism of Sérgio Mendes (mouth area).
mikeyup
11-08-2013, 11:33 PM
he looks to exotic to pass as iberian to me… i would of thought brazillian as well.
Smeagol
11-09-2013, 01:01 AM
Looks mostly Iberian with slight admixture (in the younger photos). slight Amerindian, and maybe an Octoroon.
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