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Bari
11-30-2012, 12:01 AM
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A very interesting documentary which provides an interesting aspect on the ethnic groups at the end of the Ottoman Empire, and the oncoming turmoil.

Onur
11-30-2012, 12:36 AM
This thread is a repost of the one which was erased due to forum backup restoration but i had the previous one open in my browser, so i am reposting my own messages again by copy-pasting;


Thanks for the post.

Especially the 3rd part is quite dramatic for me because my grandparents was one of the 500.000 people pictured in the document, who was forced to leave everything behind Macedonia and migrate to Anatolia. On top of that 500.000, around 250.000 more Turks and other muslims died in there between 1912-1913.



Sad story, the population ex-change was a horrible decision but you can blame the ''Turkey for Turks'' and ''Death to Christians'' mentality of the Young Turks about it
Everything you know about your history is wrong!

First of all, we are not talking about population exchange in 1923 here. This is about Balkan wars and around ~500.000 people forcefully expelled out to Anatolia in 1912-1913 on top of ~250.000 casualties. ~550.000 more who came to Turkey in the population exchange in 1923 was the remaining people from the Turkish exodus during the Balkan wars.

A total of 4,5 million Turkish people expelled out from Balkans between 1877-1923 and only ~550.000 of them came with population exchange of 1923 but the rest came to Turkey by being forcefully expelled out from their homelands in earlier times.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44779


Also, the population exchange of 1923 has been prepared by Venizelos since WW-1 days and finally demanded by Greek government again in 1923. Turkish government only accepted their offer but never demanded or desired such a thing before.

Svipdag
11-30-2012, 01:04 AM
I have a large collection of Autochromes and probably know as much about the process as anyone living. Most of the color photographs are, indeed, Autochromes . However, Autochrome was an inherently extremely grainy process.

Some of the color images shown appear to be grainless, which makes me doubt that they were taken on Autochrome plates. Such pictures could have been taken by color separation, perhaps with a color camera, and painstakingly reconstructed into a color lantern slide. I have such a lantern slide of General Pershing, most likely taken during World War I.

It is likelier, however, that these photographs were taken later in a less grainy process, perhaps Kodachrome (1939 and later).

Even in its late film version, Lumiere Filmcolor, around 1929, Autochrome was always MUCH too slow to use for motion pictures. There are no Autochrome motion pictures.

It was possible to take color motion pictures by color separation, and this was actually done at the coronation of Edward VII of England in 1901. However, once again, I deem it more likely that the color motion picture sequences in these videos were taken much later, probably after 1939.