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Beorn
07-24-2009, 03:43 PM
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to 'bring forward legislation to hold a referendum for all registered electors in both Wales and England asking the two electorates whether they are in favour of Welsh independence … and that if, when the votes are counted, there is a majority in either nation that votes in favour of Welsh independence, then this will be sufficient to bring about an amicable and fair end to the legislative union of these two great and ancient nations of Wales and England.'‏


Sign here. (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vote4Wales/)



(http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vote4Wales/)

Arahari
08-16-2009, 09:09 AM
So England herself is not being offered `independence`, only Wales?:confused:

Beorn
08-16-2009, 09:12 AM
It was the only petition that the Scots currently infesting number 10 would accept.

An England petition was repeatedly declined and thrown out as silly.

Arahari
08-16-2009, 09:19 AM
It was the only petition that the Scots currently infesting number 10 would accept.

An England petition was repeatedly declined and thrown out as silly.

Then this does not serve the cause of England. The English are the largest nation in the UK and they are at the same time the most disenfrancised one.
The era of party politics and doings things by their rules is over. Let`s stop playing politics using the rules imposed upon us.

Beorn
08-16-2009, 09:21 AM
You can only change the rules when the rules are yours to change. Till that day arives, we play them at their own games.

Arahari
08-16-2009, 09:28 AM
You can only change the rules when the rules are yours to change. Till that day arives, we play them at their own games.

But in your words-they wouldn`t accept a petition for an independent England! Yet we live in an alleged democracy. It is not up to 10 Downing Stree what petition they will or will not `decline`. Go ahead and prepare an English petition and I will sign it but I and many others will not play these silly games.
There is an untapped reservoir of potential out there in the English[readAnglo-Saxon] nation which could and should be utilised.
Over recent years this has been done for various causes such as hunting and the countryside campaigns. Superficially the demonstrations were about these specific issues but unconsciously it was an expression of something else far deeper.
You see we do not have to play by their rules and we will perish like lambs to the slaughterhouse if we continue to do as we are told.

Beorn
08-16-2009, 09:31 AM
I see the point and the passion to your words, but the game is theirs and we must become the better players.

They give the Scottish and Welsh the choice of independence and freedom, then they will have to award the English the same. The petition set out to distinguish this disparity and outright treason by the British government, and the game is a foot.

Tally-ho.

Arahari
08-16-2009, 09:41 AM
I see the point and the passion to your words, but the game is theirs and we must become the better players.

They give the Scottish and Welsh the choice of independence and freedom, then they will have to award the English the same. The petition set out to distinguish this disparity and outright treason by the British government, and the game is a foot.

Tally-ho.

It is called PEOPLE POWER Wat, the same people power that brought down the Berlin Wall and caused the collapse of communism in eastern Europe and we ignore that potential at our peril. Keep playing the games by their rules and expect continued failure.
I refuse to regard myself as somehow inferior to a Welshman or Scot.

Beorn
08-16-2009, 09:53 AM
It is called PEOPLE POWER Wat

:) Unfortunately the world today thinks "people power" comes with their John Lennon compilation CD and/or their special edition Martin Luther King, gold plated all time greatest speeches.

Its getting there. Slowly but surely. Last EU election there was 1 million on the right side of the coin, but there is a long way to go till we can have the Peasants Revolt Part 2.


Keep playing the games by their rules and expect continued failure.

A thousand failures is better than a thousand chances failed to commit to action.


I refuse to regard myself as somehow inferior to a Welshman or Scot.

Many English are of Scots and Welsh descent. ;)

Randwulf
02-07-2010, 07:41 PM
Sign here. (http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vote4Wales/)



(http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Vote4Wales/)[/LEFT]






I refuse to sign anything other than a vote for english independence

Albion
04-06-2010, 10:41 AM
Those gits in westminister! Yeah, they don't oppose Scottish independence because they know we don't need Scotland, but they want to keep a hold of England and Wales don't they?:mad::mad:
We want an independent England.

Actually thinking about it, maybe westminister doesn't support Welsh independence because it thinks Wales couldn't go it alone?

Longbowman
11-24-2013, 12:14 PM
No thank you. One kingdom, united.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 08:40 PM
We have no voice in England, no parliament or autonomous government of our own. No first minister.

The union was forced by Scotlands King James who united the Crowns of Scotland and England in the first place.

We have no right to vote for independence either. People who live in England are not given equal rights in medical prescriptions and student fees that people living in Scotland receive.

Twice as much UK money is spent on Scottish childrens school meals than school meals for children living in England (despite the obesity problem in the north).

England is the most tolerant nation in the UK and takes in most of the immigrants.

We're the only nation in the UK without our our own autonomous government and unelected foreign dictators in the EU makes most of our laws. Free England!

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 08:42 PM
And Scotland can take back their war-mongering Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron cos these UK leaders from Scotland are hated in the world. Even the Scottish people hate them too!

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 08:46 PM
And the West Lothian question stands: Why can Scottish, Welsh and NI MP's make decisions in Westminster on matters which only affect the people who live in England yet not vice-versa? English MP's are not allowed to intervene in the Scottish, Welsh and NI assemblies. Whenever the West Lothian question is asked, the MP's bury their heads in the sand.

King James of Scotland forced the union of Scotland and England. He murdered hundreds of Pagans, tortured people to death for keeping a pet or for having a birthmark which he wrote in his book (now in the British Library) was evidence of being a witch. He also burned catholics to death too. I hate both the fake catholic and protestant religions, but you don't put pins all over peoples bodies, drown them or burn them to death.

The King James from Scotland did so many barbaric things to people all over Scotland and England due to his sick holy religious beliefs. Guy Fawkes nearly blew him back to his Scottish mountains. Its great to see people around the world marching with anonymous masks on their faces after the film V for Vendetta showing Guy Fawkes fighting against tyrannical dictatorship governments.

Guy Fawkes was a hero cos King James was so evil in the things he did. Worse than Josef Fritzl when you look the witch-hunts and the way people were tortured to death under King James.

Graham
07-01-2014, 08:52 PM
We have no voice in England, no parliament or government of our own.
UKIP support an English Parliament or the English democrats.

The union was forced by Scotland. It was the other way round & it wasn't forced but the English Parliament bribed the Scots elite with Colonies and gold. Fearing another Scots French alliance or the war like state Scots could get into, holding England back in it's world ambition.



prescriptions and student fees that people living in Scotland receive.
That is because we voted the SNP. England voted in the Tories that raised the fees, though you only pay it if you are successful in a well paid job anyway.. Scottish Labour want to bring in fees here now, as they don't want middle class Scots with free education. they say is a drain on investment. :)




We're the only nation in the UK without our our own autonomous government and unelected foreign dictators in the EU makes most of our laws. Free England!

You did get the party you voted for mind. Scots and welsh didn't vote the Tories. But i think England should leave the EU.

Graham
07-01-2014, 08:55 PM
Tony Blair is half Scot and Cameron is nae Scot( Only in name). :) Michael Gove is a Scot. lol Sorry.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 09:01 PM
You did get the party you voted for mind. Scots and welsh didn't vote the Tories. But i think England should leave the EU.

I didn't vote for the Tories. The last general election resulted in a poor amount of votes for all 3 main parties. That's why the Tories had to form a coalition government due to the lack of votes in the last General Election. King James forced the Union of Crowns though. He was the first King to call himself as the King of Great Britain. I hate him so much. Not for the union but for his sick beliefs and all the tortures he did to people.

Why haven't we got our own parliament and autonomous government in England? Why aren't we allowed a vote on independence?

Catkin
07-01-2014, 09:04 PM
Haha, Free England! :P

Makes a change to what you usually read on here.

If Scotland left I probably would favour a complete dissolution of the Union. I'd feel bad ditching NI and Wales though if they didn't want to go/couldn't afford to go.





(Disclaimer: I haven't really thought this through so my opinion on this may change)

Graham
07-01-2014, 09:07 PM
Why haven't we got our own parliament and autonomous government in England? Why aren't we allowed a vote on independence?

You want the truth? It would end the UK. Labour and Conservatives don't want that. Though North England did get the vote for an Assembly like what Wales has, it was rejected by voters. 77.9% voted No.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 09:07 PM
UKIP support an English Parliament or the English democrats.
Yep, UKIP support a parliament for England. The UK Independence Party won a lot of votes in the last European Elections in Britain this year.
English Democrats support a parliament for England too.

The Tories-Lib-Dems and Labour don't seem to support equal rights though.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 09:11 PM
You want the truth? It would end the UK. Labour and Conservatives don't want that. Though North England did get the vote for an Assembly like what Wales has, it was rejected by voters. 77.9% voted No.

Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?

Graham
07-01-2014, 09:17 PM
Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?

Imo people know what goes on in their own neighbourhood best. More local control, federalism & more countries (that have a history of being one) the better. THE EU is another layer of rulers. From Luxembourg & Estonia to Dorset, Wester Ross to Glamorgan, they are too different. The UK even makes more sense.

btw if Scotland votes no. I hope of an extremely federalist UK between England, Wales & Scotland. Separate mostly but with a United Border control, currency and defense.

Longbowman
07-01-2014, 09:26 PM
Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?

Of* German descent. Your phraseology is really odd. In all your posts. I don't believe you're a native Briton.

Monarchist forever here.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 09:43 PM
Of* German descent. Your phraseology is really odd. In all your posts. I don't believe you're a native Briton.

Monarchist forever here.

I don't care what you believe and how much you try to discredit everything I say, I know my own relatives and where I was born and raised.

I don't believe you're a native Briton because if you were you wouldn't support a foreign monarch on the throne.

You wouldn't support a foreign religion either that has nothing to do with the ancient sacred Celtic sites in the West Country.

We don't bother to say *of in informal speech.

Longbowman
07-01-2014, 09:44 PM
I don't care what you believe and how much you try to discredit everything I say, I know my own relatives and where I was born and raised.

I don't believe you're a native Briton because if you were you wouldn't support a foreign monarch on the throne.

You wouldn't support a foreign religion either that has nothing to do with the ancient sacred Celtic sites in the West Country.

Yeah ridiculous points aside I don't think you were born here.

As a point of interest, around 80% of Britons support the Monarchy.

What ancient Celtic sites in the West Country? Apart from Bath Springs, there aren't really many. Besides the Celts were invasive too.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 09:58 PM
Yeah ridiculous points aside I don't think you were born here.

As a point of interest, around 80% of Britons support the Monarchy.

What ancient Celtic sites in the West Country? Apart from Bath Springs, there aren't really many. Besides the Celts were invasive too.

I think you work for MI5 tbh and I should know where I was born, cheers! The ancient Roman spas in Bath are not Celtic btw. I'm referring to the ancient Pagan sites like Woodhenge, Avebury, Stonehenge... there's literally thousands on this island didn't you know? Yea that's right... thousands! How ignorant.

80% of Britons support the monarchy? You're very pc, but I've never actually seen a vote take place on this and quite frankly I don't believe the medias claimed opinion polls of British support for the monarch given the poor public turnout at Kate & Will's wedding. Most Britons are sick of the monarchy. Most the crowds of people standing outside Buckingham Palace each day are tourists.

Longbowman
07-01-2014, 10:01 PM
I think you work for MI5 tbh and I should know where I was born, cheers! The ancient Roman spas in Bath are not Celtic btw. I'm referring to the ancient Pagan sites like Woodhenge, Avebury, Stonehenge... there's literally thousands on this island didn't you know? Yea that's right... thousands! How ignorant.

80% of Britons support the monarchy? You're very pc, but I've never actually seen a vote take place on this and quite frankly I don't believe the medias claimed opinion polls of British support for the monarch given the poor public turnout at Kate & Will's wedding. Most Britons are sick of the monarchy. Most the crowds of people standing outside Buckingham Palace each day are tourists.

They are Celtic. The Romans built the bathhouses but the springs were a sacred site to them. Thousands I don't know, but you named the three best-known.

Look, I think this ridiculous defensiveness is just proving my point. You're from MI5. Honestly.

The vast majority of Britons support it. I can't believe this is news to you. Ask some.

Herr Abubu
07-01-2014, 10:05 PM
Do you think we'd be better off as a union but without the Queen (she's German descent anyway) and with a decent government in place for everyone and being free from the EU control over Britain?

Are you against the Queen just because she's German? That's racist!

Herr Abubu
07-01-2014, 10:08 PM
Longbowman, Graham, brothers, don't bother with English (?) Rose, she's a racist.

Catkin
07-01-2014, 10:10 PM
btw if Scotland votes no. I hope of an extremely federalist UK between England, Wales & Scotland. Separate mostly but with a United Border control, currency and defense.

Yes, this!

No NI? Fine if they want to join Ireland, but otherwise...?

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:11 PM
The vast majority of Britons support it. I can't believe this is news to you. Ask some.

I have off-line and most people just don't care about the Queen in our day-to-day lives. We need a national vote instead of supposed claims about support for the monarch told to us by the media.


You're from MI5. Honestly.
Very funny, but I don't think MI5 likes people supporting UKIP.

Thousands... listen to this man below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulpQqzO2EFA

Longbowman
07-01-2014, 10:13 PM
I have off-line and most people just don't care about the Queen in our day-to-day lives. We need a national vote instead of supposed claims about support for the monarch told to us by the media.


Very funny, but I don't think MI5 likes people supporting UKIP.

Thousands... listen to this man below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulpQqzO2EFA

Obviously. We're not North Korea. But most people still support the monarchy's continued existence. This is ridiculous. And yes, I'm aware of the existence of henges.

Look, you're not a native Briton. Sorry.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:15 PM
Longbowman, Graham, brothers, don't bother with English (?) Rose, she's a racist.

We should put a Serbian on the throne of Albania. :thumb001: You're not albanian and I hate child abuse followers.

Longbowman
07-01-2014, 10:17 PM
We should put a Serbian on the throne of Albania. :thumb001: You're not albanian and I hate child abuse followers.

There's this, too; the Queen isn't German. Her great-great-great grandfather was German.

Herr Abubu
07-01-2014, 10:19 PM
We should put a Serbian on the throne of Albania. :thumb001:

Who is this "We" you speak about?


You're not albanian

That's irrelevant. But what is relevant is that I'm not a racist.


and I hate child abuse followers.

So do I. Pedophilia is a bad thing. I even hate pedophiles, as opposed to only hating those who follow them. What I also hate is racists. And people who follow racists, too. Racism is also a bad thing.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:20 PM
Look, you're not a native Briton. Sorry.

This is so reminiscent of those paid trolls on the Madeleine McCann videos who try to defame anyone who speaks the truth.

I'm English born and bred, poor desperate troll. You're not and sharia law sux yet you support that, pff.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:29 PM
What I also hate is racists. And people who follow racists, too. Racism is also a bad thing.
You scream racism all over the other thread about inter-racial relationships on another thread.

I don't hate German people. That's not what I said.
I hate unelected foreign-descent monarchs sitting on the throne and reigning over England, Scotland, Wales, NI, Canada, Australia, NZ, etc.

Longbowman
07-01-2014, 10:30 PM
This is so reminiscent of those paid trolls on the Madeleine McCann videos who try to defame anyone who speaks the truth.

I'm English born and bred, poor desperate troll. You're not and sharia law sux yet you support that, pff.

Well. Either you're not British, or you've got mental issues.

The Shari'a thing is what's colloquially referred to as a joke, bro.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:35 PM
I wonder what Russians or US citizens (they're called citizens in those nations rather than 'subjects') would think if some foreign and unelected person decides to go and rule over their people!

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:38 PM
Well. Either you're not British, or you've got mental issues.

The Shari'a thing is what's colloquially referred to as a joke, bro.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Another mint?

Herr Abubu
07-01-2014, 10:41 PM
You scream racism all over the other thread about inter-racial relationships on another thread.

Yes, I have to keep the racists in check. Racists only listen if you scream invectives like racist incessantly.


I don't hate German people. That's not what I said.

Of course, you just don't think Germans have the right to be monarchs in the UK just because of their ethnicity. You're a non-racist racist.

"We ze monarch now."


I hate unelected foreign-descent monarchs sitting on the throne and reigning over England, Scotland, Wales, NI, Canada, Australia, NZ, etc.

Exactly, you hate the Queen because she's unelected and of foreign descent, and thus you are a racist.

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:41 PM
There's a growing Republican Party in Britain and they were seen demonstrating on the streets at Kate & Williams wedding shown in YT videos!

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 10:43 PM
Exactly, you hate the Queen because she's unelected and of foreign descent, and thus you are a racist.

The Queens family is responsible for slavery and mass oppression of people in Britain and abroad. The Duke of Edinburgh grew up with Nazi's.
An opinion poll showed a very high percentage of British people believe that Princess Diana and Dodi's death was too convenient and believe there's a cover-up by the British monarchy since there was MI5 involvement in the case.

Ask the Irish Republicans what they think about the British Queen! Are you calling the Irish as 'racist' for hating her ruling over NI too? ;) Are they just 'non-Irish' and 'mental' then?

Herr Abubu
07-01-2014, 10:44 PM
I wonder what Russians or US citizens (they're called citizens in those nations rather than 'subjects') would think if some foreign and unelected person decides to go and rule over their people!

You need to read more on history. Most monarchs were of foreign descent throughout European history and it hardly bothered anyone. It is eisegesis of the most ignorant sort to say otherwise.

Longbowman
07-01-2014, 10:44 PM
Another mint?

Pardon me?

Herr Abubu
07-01-2014, 10:56 PM
The Queens family is responsible for slavery and mass oppression of people in Britain and abroad.
A large opinion poll showed British people believe that Princess Diana and Dodi's death was too convenient and a cover-up by the British monarchy since there was MI5 involvement in the case.

One of Richard Dawkins' ancestors was a slave trader. Perhaps he should be judged for the acts of his ancestor, too? Monarchies were as a rule not oppressive. In fact, monarchies are usually more 'libertarian' than are democracies; more libertarian than all forms of government, actually. You need to read more. And here we see yet more egregious forms of eisegesis. Back in those times slavery was commonplace everywhere; judging the royal family at that time for something that was so commonplace as slavery in those times is different from judging the slave traders of today. Wrong either way, of course, but the former have an excuse of ignorance, whereas the latter would not have. But what makes slavery wrong anyway? We're all just survival machines, aren't we?

♥ Lily ♥
07-01-2014, 11:11 PM
Yep Free England! Free Scotland! Free Ireland!
Monarchies are so outdated and if people read anything about history they'll see that the churches and the fake and non-ancient religions of roman catholicism and protestantism which was forced onto our nations have caused so much bloodshed, divides and wars.
This is the 21st century now for the slow ones. Russia, US, Germany and France are amongst the nations to get rid of such parasites.
Australia is hinting at wanting to become a republic too.
It's time we were given a proper vote on this in Britain! :thumb001:
(Best-selling author and evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins supports a republican Britain too since the Queen is head of the CoE which is full of child abusers).

Truth and Freedom!

Herr Abubu
07-01-2014, 11:11 PM
Thumb down this post if you agree with me! :laugh:

Xanthias
07-01-2014, 11:12 PM
In a few years to come, England will look like the Balkans with all those independency claims and these territorial split.

Xanthias
07-01-2014, 11:21 PM
I wonder what would have been Great-Britain without their Monarchy: No British Empire, commonwealth ...

Graham
07-01-2014, 11:27 PM
I wonder what would have been Great-Britain without their Monarchy: No British Empire, commonwealth ...

Commonwealth was created by Republicans in Cromwells time. Empires greatest expansion was through Parliament,

Xanthias
07-01-2014, 11:36 PM
Commonwealth was created by Republicans in Cromwells time. Empires greatest expansion was through Parliament,

Oh well, my bad, I always considered the English Monarchy the founder and the ruler of the British Empire.

Peter Nirsch
07-01-2014, 11:37 PM
I agree for Scotland, but not for Whales.

Graham
07-01-2014, 11:38 PM
Oh well, my bad, I always considered the English Monarchy the founder and the ruler of the British Empire.

Most people would think so too. With the Commonwealth games, the queen baton. The Queen being head. It's an Ultimate Irony. :)

The Commonwealth Timeline (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/the-commonwealth)



Jan 30
Execution of Charles I.


Mar 17
The Rump Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/rump-parliament) abolishes the Monarchy.


Mar 19
Abolition of the House of Lords.


Feb 14
Council of State (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/council-of-state) appointed.


Mar 28
Arrest of Leveller (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/sects-and-factions/levellers) leaders for sedition.


May 2
Royalists murder Dr Dorislaus (http://bcw-project.org/biography/isaac-dorislaus), Commonwealth envoy in The Hague.


May 14
Suppression of the Army Levellers at Burford (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/leveller-mutinies).


May 19
England declared a "Commonwealth and free state", with the House of Commons as supreme authority in the land.


Aug 15
Cromwell arrives in Ireland (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/cromwell-in-ireland/).


Sep 4
Act for the support of impoverished prisoners passed.


Sep 20
Act outlawing the publication of unlicensed books, pamphlets and newsbooks passed.


Oct 9
Publication of the first issue of Parliament's official newsbook.


Oct 26
John Lilburne (http://bcw-project.org/biography/john-lilburne) acquited of charges of sedition.




Top of Page (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/the-commonwealth#top)



1650 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1650)



Jan 2
Engagement Act (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/oath-of-engagement) passed: all adult males to declare loyalty to the Commonwealth.


Feb 22
Parliament appoints the Commission for the Propagation of the Gospel in Wales.


Mar 26
A new High Court of Justice set up with powers to condemn to death anyone acting against the interests of the Commonwealth.


Apr 19
Parliament passes an Act enforcing strict observance of the Lord's day.


May 1
Charles II signs the Treaty of Breda (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/treaty-of-breda), securing an alliance with the Scottish Covenanters.


May 10
Parliament passes the Adultery Act: the death penalty imposed for adultery (never applied in practice).


May 27
Royalists murder Anthony Ascham, the Commonwealth ambassador in Madrid.


Jun 20
The Council of State resolves to mount a pre-emptive invasion of Scotland against Charles II and the Covenanters.


Jul 11
Militia Act passed: property holders to contribute proportionately to defence costs. Lords Lieutenant of counties replaced by Commissioners appointed by Parliament.


Jul 17
Treason Act passed: any claim that the House of Commons was not the supreme authority becomes an act of high treason.


Aug 9
Parliament passes the Blasphemy Act, aimed at suppressing radical religious sects.


Sep 3
Battle of Dunbar (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/dunbar): Cromwell defeats the Covenanters.


Sep 27
Toleration Act passed: compulsory attendance at parish churches abolished.


Oct 3
Act prohibiting trade with the Royalist colonies Virginia, Bermuda, Barbados and Antigua. General-at-Sea Ayscue to be sent to recover Barbados (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/barbados).


Dec 26
Spain formally recognises the Commonwealth of England.




Top of Page (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/the-commonwealth#top)



1651 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1651)



Jan 1
Charles II (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-the-second) crowned at Scone; the Commonwealth recognises him only as "the King of Scots".


Mar 25
Opening of negotiations for an alliance between the Commonwealth and the United Provinces of Holland.


May 23
Sir John Grenville (http://bcw-project.org/biography/sir-john-grenville) surrenders the Scilly Isles (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/scilly-isles) to General-at-Sea Robert Blake (http://bcw-project.org/biography/robert-blake).


Jun 18
Failure of negotiations for an alliance with the United Provinces.


Aug 5
Charles II and the Scots invade England.


Sep 3
Battle of Worcester (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/worcester): final defeat of the Royalist cause on the British mainland.


Oct 9
Navigation Act (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/the-navigation-act) passed, introducing measures aimed at hampering Dutch trade.


Oct 15
Charles II escapes to France.


Oct 29
Parliament's declaration for incorporation of Scotland into a single Commonwealth with England.


Nov 7
Death of Henry Ireton (http://bcw-project.org/biography/henry-ireton) at Limerick.


Dec 12
Blake and Heane capture Jersey (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/jersey) for the Commonwealth.




Top of Page (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/the-commonwealth#top)



1652 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1652)



Jan 11
The Assembly of Barbados (http://bcw-project.org/military/third-civil-war/barbados) submits to the Commonwealth.


Jan 17
Parliament appoints commissioners to investigate reform of the legal system.


Jan 23
Parliament decrees that judges are to be paid by a fixed salary rather than by fees and perquisites.


Feb 24
Act of Pardon and Oblivion passed, aiming to win the support of former Royalists.


Mar 12
The colony of Virginia submits to the Commonwealth.


Mar 18
Act for the Union of England and Scotland (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/settlement-of-scotland) presented at Westminster.


Mar 29
The colony of Maryland submits to the Commonwealth.


May 12
Surrender of Galway. Articles for surrender of last remaining Irish forces signed at Kilkenny.


May 19
First Anglo-Dutch war (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/first-anglo-dutch-war) begins; Blake's fleet clashes with Tromp in the Channel.


Jul 9
Charles Fleetwood (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-fleetwood) appointed commander-in-chief in Ireland.


Aug 2
Petition of Army officers calls for religious and financial reforms, the dissolution of the present Parliament and elections for a new representative.


Aug 12
Parliament passes the Act for the Settlement of Ireland (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/settlement-of-ireland).


Aug 19
The Marquis of Argyll (http://bcw-project.org/biography/archibald-campbell-marquis-of-argyll) accepts the authority of the Commonwealth in Scotland and undertakes to live peaceably under the new government.


Nov 30
Battle of Dungeness (http://bcw-project.org/military/first-anglo-dutch-war/dungeness): Admiral Tromp defeats Blake's fleet.


Dec 2
Navy commissioners led by Sir Henry Vane (http://bcw-project.org/biography/sir-henry-vane) begin a thorough review of naval tactics and administration.


Dec 21
France formally recognises the Commonwealth of England.




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1653 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1653)



Jan 28
The Council of Officers appeals to the Army for support in ensuring political and religious reform.


Feb 18
Battle of Portland (http://bcw-project.org/military/first-anglo-dutch-war/portland): the English fleet regains command of the Channel.


Apr 20
Cromwell dissolves the Rump Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/dissolution-rump-parliament).


Jul
Beginning of Glencairn's Uprising (http://bcw-project.org/military/royalist-conspiracies/glencairns-uprising) against the Commonwealth in Scotland.


Jul 4
The Nominated Assembly (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/nominated-assembly) (Barebones Parliament) assembles.


Jul 13
John Lilburne (http://bcw-project.org/biography/john-lilburne) brought to trial for felony at the Old Bailey.


Jul 31
Battle of Scheveningen (http://bcw-project.org/military/first-anglo-dutch-war/scheveningen): last battle of the Anglo-Dutch war; death in action of Admiral Tromp.


Aug 20
John Lilburne imprisoned despite being found Not Guilty of the charges against him.


Dec 12
The Nominated Assembly surrenders its powers to Cromwell.


Dec 16
Oliver Cromwell (http://bcw-project.org/biography/oliver-cromwell) installed as Lord Protector.

Graham
07-01-2014, 11:49 PM
1653 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1653)

Dec 16
Oliver Cromwell (http://bcw-project.org/biography/oliver-cromwell) installed as Lord Protector.


1654 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1654)

Apr 8
General Monck (http://bcw-project.org/biography/george-monck) appointed commander of Commonwealth forces in Scotland.


Mar 20
Commission of Triers established: a national body to vet all new clergy.


Apr 5
Treaty to end the First Anglo-Dutch War (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/first-anglo-dutch-war). The Dutch forced to pass the Act of Exclusion, aimed at preventing a Dutch alliance with the Stuarts.


Apr 12
Ordinance for the union of England and Scotland (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/settlement-of-scotland).


May
Failure of John Gerard's plot to assassinate Cromwell.


Jun 27
Ordinances for elections in Scotland and Ireland (the first time they are represented at Westminster).


Jul 19
The battle of Dalnaspidal effectively ends Glencairn's Uprising (http://bcw-project.org/military/royalist-conspiracies/glencairns-uprising) in the Highlands.


Aug 28
Commission of Ejectors appointed to expel inadequate ministers and schoolmasters.


Sep 3
First Protectorate Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/first-protectorate-parliament) assembles.


Oct
Petition of the Three Colonels (Alured, Okey and Saunders), protesting that theInstrument of Government (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/instrument-of-government) gives Cromwell greater powers than the King.


Dec 25
The Western Design (http://bcw-project.org/military/anglo-spanish-war/western-design) launched — English attack on Spanish colonies in the West Indies.




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1655 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1655)

Jan 22
Cromwell dissolves the First Protectorate Parliament.


Mar 11
Penruddock's Uprising (http://bcw-project.org/military/royalist-conspiracies/penruddocks-uprising) in the West Country: co-ordinated Royalist insurrections around the country fail to ignite.


Mar 14
Penruddock's rebels defeated by Colonel Croke at South Molton in Devon.


Apr 17
Failure of Penn and Venables' attempt to take Hispaniola (http://bcw-project.org/military/anglo-spanish-war/western-design#hispaniola) from Spain.


May 17
Penn and Venables capture Jamaica (http://bcw-project.org/military/anglo-spanish-war/western-design#jamaica).


Jun 7
Resignation of Chief Justice Henry Rolle over concerns regarding the legality of theInstrument of Government (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/instrument-of-government).


Jul 9
Henry Cromwell (http://bcw-project.org/biography/henry-cromwell) arrives in Dublin to take up his appointment as Major-General of the army in Ireland.


Aug 22
First instructions to the Major-Generals issued.


Sep 6
Charles Fleetwood (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-fleetwood) departs from Ireland. He retains the title of Lord-Deputy until his term of office expires, but the administration of Ireland is left to Henry Cromwell.


Sep 21
One-tenth of all property belonging to former Royalists is confiscated under the Decimation Tax.


Oct 11
Commissions issued to the Major-Generals.


Oct 15
The Council of State declares its support for Cromwell's policy of war with Spain (http://bcw-project.org/military/anglo-spanish-war/).


Oct 24
Commercial treaty signed between the Protectorate and France.


Oct 31
Rule of the Major-Generals (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/rule-of-the-major-generals) proclaimed in England and Wales. The country is divided into 12 districts under military jurisdiction.



Menassah ben Israel submits a petition for the re-admission of the Jews into England.




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1656 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1656)

Mar 28
Generals-at-Sea Blake (http://bcw-project.org/biography/robert-blake) and Montagu (http://bcw-project.org/biography/edward-montagu-earl-of-sandwich) sail to intercept the Spanish plate fleet.


Apr 2
Charles II (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-the-second) signs an alliance with Spain against the Protectorate.


May 12
A Healing Question Propounded by Sir Henry Vane (http://bcw-project.org/biography/sir-henry-vane) criticises Cromwell.


Sep 4
Sir Henry Vane arrested and imprisoned in Carisbrooke Castle.


Sep 9
Vice-Admiral Stayner captures the Spanish plate fleet off Cadiz (http://bcw-project.org/military/anglo-spanish-war/spanish-blockade).


Sep 17
Second Protectorate Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/second-protectorate-parliament) assembles.


Oct 1
Parliament approves the war with Spain.


Dec 17
Parliament convicts the Quaker James Nayler (http://bcw-project.org/biography/james-nayler) of blasphemy and sentences him to savage mutilation and imprisonment.




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1657 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1657)

Jan 8
Failure of an attempt to set fire to the Palace of Whitehall by Miles Sindercombe (http://bcw-project.org/biography/miles-sindercombe) and other disaffected Levellers.


Jan 28
Decimation Tax and rule of the Major-Generals abandoned.


Feb 23
The Humble Petition and Advice (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/humble-petition-and-advice) presented to Parliament despite opposition from the Army. Offer of the Crown to Cromwell.


Mar 13
Signing of the treaty for a military alliance between England and France against Spain; continuation of the Anglo-Spanish war on the continent of Europe.


Apr 20
General-at-Sea Robert Blake (http://bcw-project.org/biography/robert-blake) destroys the Spanish fleet at Santa Cruz (http://bcw-project.org/military/anglo-spanish-war/spanish-blockade#santacruz).


Apr/May
Edward Sexby (http://bcw-project.org/biography/edward-sexby) and Captain Titus publish the pamphlet Killing no Murder, which incites Cromwell's assassination.


May 8
Cromwell formally refuses the Crown.


May 25
A revised version of The Humble Petition and Advice, avoiding mention of the royal title, passed by Parliament.


Jun 11
Sir John Reynolds (http://bcw-project.org/biography/sir-john-reynolds) with six English regiments joins Marshall Turenne's army in France.


Jun 26
Cromwell's second installation as Lord Protector under a new constitution in a ceremony reminiscent of a royal coronation.


Aug 7
Death of Robert Blake.


Sep 22
The Anglo-French army captures Mardyke in Flanders.


Nov 17
Henry Cromwell (http://bcw-project.org/biography/henry-cromwell) officially appointed Lord-Deputy of Ireland after the expiration of Fleetwood's term of office.




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1658 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1658)

Jan 20
Second session of the Second Protectorate Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/second-protectorate-parliament) begins.


Feb 4
Cromwell dissolves the Second Protectorate Parliament.


Mar 18
Anglo-French alliance renewed.


Jun 4
Battle of the Dunes (http://bcw-project.org/military/anglo-spanish-war/flanders#dunes): the Anglo-French army under Marshal Turenne defeats a Spanish force attempting to raise the siege of Dunkirk.


Jun 14
Dunkirk occupied by French and English troops.


Sep 3
Death of Oliver Cromwell; his son Richard accepted as his successor by the Council of Officers and the Army.


Sep 4
Richard Cromwell (http://bcw-project.org/biography/richard-cromwell) proclaimed Oliver's successor in London and throughout England.


Sep 9-10
Richard proclaimed in Edinburgh and Dublin.


Oct 18
Charles Fleetwood (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-fleetwood) appointed lieutenant-general of the Army, but Richard insists upon retaining the position and full power of commander-in-chief.




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1659 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1659)

Jan 27
Third Protectorate Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-protectorate/third-protectorate-parliament) assembles.


Apr 17
Richard orders the dissolution of the Council of Officers.


Apr 22
Richard Cromwell (http://bcw-project.org/biography/richard-cromwell) forced by army officers Fleetwood (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-fleetwood) and Disbrowe (http://bcw-project.org/biography/john-disbrowe) to dissolve the Third Protectorate Parliament.


Apr 26
Junior officers petition for the return of the Long Parliament; petitions for the re-establishment of the Commonwealth begin to pour in from London and the provinces.


May 7
Richard forced by the Council of Officers to reinstate the Rump Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-restoration/the-rump-recalled).


May 19
Parliament elects a new Council of State (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-commonwealth/council-of-state).


May 24
Resignation of Richard Cromwell: end of the Protectorate.

Xanthias
07-01-2014, 11:51 PM
Most people would think so too. With the Commonwealth games, the queen baton. The Queen being head. It's an Ultimate Irony. :)

Well, I think I might apologize for my irrefutable lack of knowledge.

Graham
07-01-2014, 11:53 PM
1659 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1659)



May 7
Richard Cromwell (http://bcw-project.org/biography/richard-cromwell) forced by the Council of Officers to reinstate the Rump Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-restoration/the-rump-recalled).


May 24
Resignation of Richard Cromwell after Parliament refuses to recognise the Protectorate.


Jun 7
Parliament commissions Charles Fleetwood (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-fleetwood) commander-in-chief of the armies in England and Scotland but retains the power to appoint or promote officers.


Jul 3
Viscount Mordaunt (http://bcw-project.org/biography/john-mordaunt) arrives in England to co-ordinate a general Royalist insurrection.


Aug 5-19
Booth's Uprising (http://bcw-project.org/military/royalist-conspiracies/booths-uprising): Royalist revolt in Cheshire, suppressed by Colonel John Lambert (http://bcw-project.org/biography/john-lambert).


Sep
Officers of Lambert's army meet at Derby and draw up a petition setting out their demands for the government of the nation.


Sep 22-3
Parliament forbids any further petitioning by soldiers. Sir Arthur Hesilrige (http://bcw-project.org/biography/sir-arthur-hesilrige) calls for Lambert's arrest.


Oct 12
Parliament revokes the commissions of Lambert and eight other senior officers.


Oct 13
Lambert's troops occupy Westminster and prevent Parliament from sitting.


Oct 15
The Council of Officers appoints a ten-member Committee of Safety to consider how to carry on the government.


Oct 20
General Monck (http://bcw-project.org/biography/george-monck) sends a declaration from Scotland demanding the return of Parliament.


Oct 25
The Council of State dissolved; the Committee of Safety re-appointed by Army leaders.


Nov 3
Lambert marches north from London with 12,000 troops to block Monck's route into England.


Nov 12
Monck's representatives arrive in London for talks with the Council of Officers.


Nov 24
Former members of the Council of State appoint Monck commander of all military units in England and Scotland and empower him to take military action against the enemies of Parliament if necessary.


Dec 3
Sir Arthur Hesilrige secures Portsmouth for Parliament.


Dec 5
Riots in London for the return of Parliament.


Dec 8
Monck crosses the border and establishes his headquarters at Coldstream.


Dec 14
Vice-Admiral John Lawson (http://bcw-project.org/biography/john-lawson) sails for the Thames, threatening to blockade London in support of Parliament.


Dec 26
Fleetwood forced to recall the Rump Parliament.






1660 (http://bcw-project.org/timelines/1660)



Jan 1
General Monck (http://bcw-project.org/biography/george-monck) marches from Coldstream for London.


Jan 9
Sir Henry Vane (http://bcw-project.org/biography/sir-henry-vane) expelled from Parliament for having sided with the military junta.


Jan 11
Lord Fairfax (http://bcw-project.org/biography/sir-thomas-fairfax) meets Monck at York and urges him to restore the Monarchy.


Feb 3
Monck's army arrives in London.


Feb 9
Parliament orders Monck to remove the City gates and portcullises after citizens of London demand the reinstatement of Presbyterian MPs purged in 1648.


Feb 11
Monck demands the re-admission of the purged MPs and apologises for his actions in removing the City gates.


Feb 21
The Long Parliament restored: surviving MPs purged in 1648 re-admitted to Parliament under Monck's protection.


Mar 5
John Lambert (http://bcw-project.org/biography/john-lambert) imprisoned in the Tower of London.


Mar 16
The Long Parliament calls free elections and votes for its own dissolution.


Apr 10
Lambert escapes from the Tower and tries to rally resistance to the Restoration.


Apr 22
Lambert and his followers defeated at Daventry; Lambert returned to London as a prisoner.


Apr 25
The Convention Parliament (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-restoration/convention-parliament) assembles.


May 1
Charles II's manifesto the Declaration of Breda (http://bcw-project.org/church-and-state/the-restoration/declaration-of-breda) read in Parliament.


May 8
The Convention Parliament declares Charles II to have been King since 30th January 1649.


May 14
Parliament orders the arrest of all surviving regicides.


May 25
Charles II (http://bcw-project.org/biography/charles-the-second) lands at Dover.


May 29
Charles II makes a triumphal entry into London.

♥ Lily ♥
07-02-2014, 12:07 AM
Pardon me?
Sorry, I was just using my desktop camera for a video I want to show to others on YT about harrassment.

Longbowman
07-02-2014, 01:53 AM
Sorry, I was just using my desktop camera for a video I want to show to others on YT about harrassment.

I think that merits another 'pardon me?'