Miss Norway 2012- Miss Universe typical Norwegian girl ?

[Madonna]

Sara Nicole Andersen
classify her phenotype and where can she pass?

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[Virtuous]

TYPICAL?

You must be joking.

[Anglojew]

Not a normal Norwegian too good looking.

[Baldur]

TYPICAL?

You must be joking.

Yeah she is very typical ;)

[sevruk]

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9973/galleryphoto1351859067n.jpg

this - yes. others look too Nordic

[finþaų]

Obviously Middle Eastern or part Middle Eastern.

[Sarmatian]

It is said she is of Serbain-Iranian origin. Wouldn't be surprising if there is no even Norwegian blood in her.

[Baldur]

how did she get her name then :S

[Sarmatian]

how did she get her name then :S

Her parents may have changed their surname when immigrating. Not sure about the laws on it in Norway but in some countries you can change your name to anything you like when getting citizenship.

[Baldur]

Yeah i know that and some iranians usually change their name to very swedish or norwegians names so i guess the mother must be the serb because a serb woudltn change their name lol.

[Madonna]

what about miss Netherlands?

[Baldur]

its funny because it seems like all the scandinavian countries sent a mixed girl to this competition...

[Loki]

Not a normal Norwegian too good looking.

What's it with you and Norwegians? You should stop trolling them, it's becoming annoying.

[Anglojew]

What's it with you and Norwegians? You should stop trolling them, it's becoming annoying.

I just really am not a fan of Norwegians. Tuen, Holle, Mircorobert, Dexter etc can post post after post about how Jews are inferior, evil, ugly, theiving, money grubbing, disloyal and the holocaust is a hoax etc but not liking Norwegians is crossing the line?

It's hilarious how people who constantly criticize others have such thin skins themselves.

[Jerreiche]

Hotter than any real life norwegian I have ever seen (scando girls re rather lifeless and dull as a general rule)

[evon]

Its funny because outwardly Norwegians are over-represented by immigrants in cultural settings, probably because Norwegians in general do not view fame with the same enthusiasm as most immigrants do, we are mostly getting proper educations and jobs rather then dance in the lime light for 15 mins...i guess this is a good thing :) but its weird, the funniest was an Iranian Kurd representing Norway in Eurovision in Azerbaijan:P

But who cares, we are a mixed country (have always been so, though not as much as now of course), so it will show..

[Pallantides]

how did she get her name then :S

She might be adopted like Aylar Lie or maybe she have one Norwegian parent.



Her facial mimic is rather unmistakably Norwegian like.
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http://www.trivia.se/bilder/trivias/trivia-5260-20081128224954.jpg
http://static.vg.no/drfront/images/2012/11/13/c=0,26,550,285;w=578;h=300;64703.jpg


A person who is adopted or born and raised in a foreign culture than their own often take on characteristics and mannerism of their hosts.

[Graham]

These Miss whatever contests, like to pick those with 'foreign' ancestry to their respective countries. Have noticed.

[Lobotomist]

Norway suffers from a syndrome that makes them despise their own culture and people. It provides cultural self-contempt.

[evon]

Norway suffers from a syndrome that makes them despise their own culture and people. It provides cultural self-contempt.

Its called Jante law...coined from a Danish author if i remember correctly..

[Pallantides]

Norway suffers from a syndrome that makes them despise their own culture and people. It provides cultural self-contempt.

How did you come up with that, we love our culture, traditions and history... at least many do.

These sort of miss shows don't really represent the views of common people.

[Graham]

Norway suffers from a syndrome that makes them despise their own culture and people. It provides cultural self-contempt.

Haha, we have that. It's the Calvinism here. :D

[King Claus]

this thread is a joke and posted in the wrong section

[rashka]

It is said she is of Serbain-Iranian origin. Wouldn't be surprising if there is no even Norwegian blood in her.

BIO
Sara Nicole Anderson moved from Iran to Norway at the age of 4.
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Another site says this:

Norway is back after skipping the Miss Universe beauty pageant last year. And they sent quite a beautiful candidate with an Iranian/Serbian/Norwegian mix, so that kind of makes up for their absence last year.

As regards her beauty, her Persian blood gives her the most captivating eyes and loveliest light coffee skin tone. She’s a young wild beauty, not perfectly polished. But for me, that gives her an edge…

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Whatever she is it certainly looks like her parents were very dark.

[Farah]

She could be Levantine or Iranian..She slightly resembles Miss USA 2010, who is Lebanese:

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7506/rimasweetiex525.jpg

[rhiannon]

What's it with you and Norwegians? You should stop trolling them, it's becoming annoying.THANK YOU for saying this, Loki!!! I am seriously sick of this shit as well:mad:

[rhiannon]

I just really am not a fan of Norwegians. Tuen, Holle, Mircorobert, Dexter etc can post post after post about how Jews are inferior, evil, ugly, theiving, money grubbing, disloyal and the holocaust is a hoax etc but not liking Norwegians is crossing the line?

It's hilarious how people who constantly criticize others have such thin skins themselves.
So you're lashing out at Norwegians because your feelings are butt hurt. That's pathetic.

If the Norwegians on here were doing it, I might understand better. They're not, so it makes you look even worse.

[Lobotomist]

How did you come up with that, we love our culture, traditions and history... at least many do.

These sort of miss shows don't really represent the views of common people.

I think, it's how Norwegian media portrays Norway & Norwegians.
Look at your Melodi Grand Prix participants the last four years - for example.

It began with an asylum seeker from Belarus who represented Norway. It is good that you exceptionally let the asylum seekers represent you, to show that you are tolerant. But what happens next?
Yep, you send a new asylum seeker from Africa. Russian commentators actually wondered if you needed Norwegians or whether you were too embarrassed regarding your own culture. And yet again, you send a asylum seeker from Iran this year. :picard2:

[Svante]

Norway suffers from a syndrome that makes them despise their own culture and people. It provides cultural self-contempt.

most people live in Oslo they are not norsk. it is as difficult in Malmö close to universitet now to find a person that is swedish. :mad:

[Pallantides]

most people live in Oslo they are not norsk.
:picard2:

Norsk is singular form, Norwegians in plural form is Norske/Norska(NO/SE) or Nordmenn:coffee:



Though Oslo is the city in Norway with the most immigrants, Norwegians still make up the majority

[Ulex]

AlexanderNordic has got a point. It's not about Norwegians not loving their country or their traditions. It's about a feeling of guilt that is being placed upon them by the medias, politicians and professional opinion shapers. This guilt-feeling leads to some sort of "affirmative action", and this Miss Norway has affirmative action written all over her face.

Which public figure in Norway would dare to say: Hell no, she is NOT Norwegian!? I ask you, Pallantides.

[Pallantides]

Which public figure in Norway would dare to say: Hell no, she is NOT Norwegian!? I ask you, Pallantides.


Tore Tvedt.:p


He is a public figure, sort of...

[RussiaPrussia]

What's it with you and Norwegians? You should stop trolling them, it's becoming annoying.

i think its because the norwegian left is very hostile to israel in comparison to other western countries

[eeroli]

She is a typical nynorje. A beautiful example of Europe tomorrow.

Race is only a social construction.

[evon]

I think, it's how Norwegian media portrays Norway & Norwegians.
Look at your Melodi Grand Prix participants the last four years - for example.

It began with an asylum seeker from Belarus who represented Norway. It is good that you exceptionally let the asylum seekers represent you, to show that you are tolerant. But what happens next?
Yep, you send a new asylum seeker from Africa. Russian commentators actually wondered if you needed Norwegians or whether you were too embarrassed regarding your own culture. And yet again, you send a asylum seeker from Iran this year. :picard2:

Its village mentality as i said before (Jante law), everything that comes from outside the "village" is seen as exotic and new, but in reality the outside world is just a mirage build up on the idea that everything is greener on the other side...in short its seen as wild, non-regulated, better and happier..

I even notice that Norwegian girls who see me shopping for Asian snack in an immigrant shop will give me ten times as much attention as a girl seeing me in a typical shop, my thought was that its linked to the same issue, as when i shop there i become "mystical" :P I also notice it when i go to a local Irish pub known for its international clientèle, girls approach me assuming i am everything from Argentinian, French to Irish, while when i say i am Norwegian the lights dim in their eyes..its a shame really but its just how things are...

Now the positive side of this is that we can take and mould into our own many cultural impulses from outside without having to feel inferior..which is nice and makes us dynamic...

[Linet]

So...Norweagens dont have beautifull girls :stricken: and a girl of middle Eastern beauty :rose: outpassed the beauty of all their girls?

[finþaų]

So...Norweagens dont have beautifull girls :stricken: and a girl of middle Eastern beauty :rose: outpassed the beauty of all their girls?

Scandinavians do not typically care about beauty pageants, and thus various groups from further South and East have monopolized them. :P

[Linet]

Yes, but is sad, nations famous about their looks :eyes to undermine their beauty and promote another... :ohwell:

[Pallantides]

There have also been a fair share of ethnic Norwegian pageants, so it's not all foreigners and race mixed individuals.


Actually majority of pageants have been ethnic Norwegians, I believe only handful have been of foreign extraction which is more of a newer trend.

[Svipdag]

I am half Norwegian, a Life Member of Sons of Norway, Past President of a Sons of Norway lodge. Once, I was proud of this heritage. I am no longer.

According to articles in the [Sone of Norway] Viking, and conversations with young visitors from Norway, the values of modern Norwegians are very different from those of the emigrants who settled in the midwest, and their forebears.

I have read and been told that it is considered bad form to excel at anything lest one hurt the feelings of those who do not excel :cry .If one should, despite his/her efforts to achieve mediocrity, chance to excel at anything, it is imperative to conceal the fact.

In the past, modesty has never come easily to Norwegians. Ostentation (stormansgalskap) and boasting have been far more typical of our folk.
Now, the young seem committed to an artificial egalitarianism which smacks of Maoism and the Cultural Revolution.

These are not the heirs of the Vikings.


"It is a tacit but fundamental principle of Socialism that success must not go unpunished." - Martin H. Francis

[PeacefulCaribbeanDutch]

is she from malaysia?

[Pallantides]

is she from malaysia?


She is originally from Iran

Sara Nicole Anderson moved from Iran to Norway at the age of 4. She enjoys working out and loves both animals and fashion. Accordingly, Sara spends time volunteering at animal shelters, and working at fashion related companies. Her career ambition is to become a successful psychologist.
http://cdn.missuniverse.com/media/photos/galleries/photographer_uploaded_1_61_1354864223_2012.jpg

[PeacefulCaribbeanDutch]

I have seen iranian girls like this in person, they are really attractive

this one looks a little mongoloid though

[evon]

I am half Norwegian, a Life Member of Sons of Norway, Past President of a Sons of Norway lodge. Once, I was proud of this heritage. I am no longer.

According to articles in the [Sone of Norway] Viking, and conversations with young visitors from Norway, the values of modern Norwegians are very different from those of the emigrants who settled in the midwest, and their forebears.

I have read and been told that it is considered bad form to excel at anything lest one hurt the feelings of those who do not excel :cry .If one should, despite his/her efforts to achieve mediocrity, chance to excel at anything, it is imperative to conceal the fact.

In the past, modesty has never come easily to Norwegians. Ostentation (stormansgalskap) and boasting have been far more typical of our folk.
Now, the young seem committed to an artificial egalitarianism which smacks of Maoism and the Cultural Revolution.

These are not the heirs of the Vikings.


"It is a tacit but fundamental principle of Socialism that success must not go unpunished." - Martin H. Francis

:picard1: I would recommend you start reading into Norse culture more, and also look into Jante Law...Socialism is just a modern expression of a very long cultural tradition in these lands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante

And Viking is a verb, if you want to be correct start using Norse instead.

[Kelta]

You probably would never win Miss Universe, if it matters at all, since you are not multicultural enough like Brazil or Venezuela. Pardos is the latest trend for the Americas and world. Hasn't Germany had 5 years of mixed racial contestants already? It seems very ridiculous to have Iranian immigrant representing a Scandinavian country- soooo obviously politically correct. Is she at least half ethnic Norwegian from Norge parent?

[Panopticon]

I am half Norwegian, a Life Member of Sons of Norway, Past President of a Sons of Norway lodge. Once, I was proud of this heritage. I am no longer.

According to articles in the [Sone of Norway] Viking, and conversations with young visitors from Norway, the values of modern Norwegians are very different from those of the emigrants who settled in the midwest, and their forebears.

I have read and been told that it is considered bad form to excel at anything lest one hurt the feelings of those who do not excel :cry .If one should, despite his/her efforts to achieve mediocrity, chance to excel at anything, it is imperative to conceal the fact.

In the past, modesty has never come easily to Norwegians. Ostentation (stormansgalskap) and boasting have been far more typical of our folk.
Now, the young seem committed to an artificial egalitarianism which smacks of Maoism and the Cultural Revolution.

These are not the heirs of the Vikings.


"It is a tacit but fundamental principle of Socialism that success must not go unpunished." - Martin H. Francis

You are right on one hand and wrong on the other.

On one hand, there is indeed a mentality where merely being mediocre and normal are the pillars of society. There is little drive to go forward, to achieve. And being better is somehow offensive to others. Instead of capitalizing on strengths, the strengths are seen almost as swellings that need to be treated and reduced. Most important, if something is decent, do not make it better; a reluctance towards going the extra mile; and thus reap the benefits. Basically, a 'participation is just as important as winning' mentality.

On the other hand, this is a very old cultural trait, not only among Norwegians, although I believe it is more true for Norwegians, but also Scandinavians. It's called the Jante Law (Janteloven). That it lingers so deeply in Norwegian culture is, I believe, the reason Norwegians never achieved just as much as either the Swedes or the Danes.

[rashka]

Pardos is the latest trend for the Americas and world. Hasn't Germany had 5 years of mixed racial contestants already? It seems very ridiculous to have Iranian immigrant representing a Scandinavian country- soooo obviously politically correct. Is she at least half ethnic Norwegian from Norge parent?

The problem is not much can be found on her ethnicity in a basic search of the internet. Her mom certainly doesn't look like she is European.

[evon]

On the other hand, this is a very old cultural trait, not only among Norwegians, although I believe it is more true for Norwegians, but also Scandinavians. It's called the Jante Law (Janteloven). That it lingers so deeply in Norwegian culture is, I believe, the reason Norwegians never achieved just as much as either the Swedes or the Danes.

What achievements do you mean here? as last i checked we are on-par with the rest in most regards...

[American_Hispanist]

Too good looking to be a Nord.

[Furnace]

I am not really impressed, I see better looking girls daily..

[evon]

I am not really impressed, I see better looking girls daily..

Most girls iknow who are much better looking would never enter such a "glamour" setting in the first place...which is good, glamour is fake and has no merit for most Norwegians as i see it...

[Baldur]

Too good looking to be a Nord.

http://mememagnetic.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png

[Petersburg]

Miss Istanbul 2012

[Azalea]

Iranian..really? Looks nothing Iranian to me, thought she was a New Worlder at first.

[Lobotomist]

Too good looking to be a Nord.

Just stop already. :picard2::picard2::picard2:

[finþaų]

Trolling Nordix is futile, as we are too cold to care. :D

[Panopticon]

What achievements do you mean here? as last i checked we are on-par with the rest in most regards...

Individual achievements; the areas I'm the most interested in: the Sciences, inventing, etc. People who have had a noticeable impact on the world, great personalities.

It might just be me, though.

[King Claus]

this thread is disgusting, trollish and stupid.

[evon]

Individual achievements; the areas I'm the most interested in: the Sciences, inventing, etc. People who have had a noticeable impact on the world, great personalities.

It might just be me, though.

I dont think Denmark is ahead of Norway in this regard, Sweden might be ahead on Science, but there are historical reasons for this that go back to the Black plague and has little to do with culture and more to do with demographics and power relations between Denmark and Sweden...Norway lost its nobility and scholars during the plague, it left us weak for several generations and when the Danes got full control, they refused to allow any form of "elite"/Power base arise in Norway, hence we did not even get our own university until very late compared to the others, the same with banking services and so on...

[Panopticon]

I dont think Denmark is ahead of Norway in this regard, Sweden might be ahead on Science, but there are historical reasons for this that go back to the Black plague and has little to do with culture and more to do with demographics and power relations between Denmark and Sweden...Norway lost its nobility and scholars during the plague, it left us weak for several generations and when the Danes got full control, they refused to allow any form of "elite"/Power base arise in Norway, hence we did not even get our own university until very late compared to the others, the same with banking services and so on...

That is true. However, could one not argue that this has affected the culture? The loss of the national high elite resulted in a culture more deeply rooted in the village; and the lack of a clear national elite gave the culture a more vulgar mark.

[evon]

That is true. However, could one not argue that this has affected the culture? The loss of the national high elite resulted in a culture more deeply rooted in the village; and the lack of a clear national elite gave the culture a more vulgar mark.

I guess you could go down that road, i dont see why not.
Just beware that the Jante law is a Danish term coined for village attitudes in Denmark...

[Pallantides]

What achievements do you mean here? as last i checked we are on-par with the rest in most regards...

http://i.imgur.com/k0ntV.jpg

[Vasconcelos]

It's okay, we all love Norwegians nonetheless.

[Albion]

Her parents may have changed their surname when immigrating. Not sure about the laws on it in Norway but in some countries you can change your name to anything you like when getting citizenship.

Maybe here dad is Norwegian and her mum something else? :confused:

[Pallantides]

Rarely do immigrants take Norwegian surnames unless they are married into a Norwegian family.

[evon]

Rarely do immigrants take Norwegian surnames unless they are married into a Norwegian family.

In the olden days it was common to take a Norwegian name when immigrating, this is why my city has so few old German names ect, while there should be plenty more if they all kept them...Also iknow several immigrants who tone down their names, especially if it happens to be Muhammed ect...as its not good for when looking for a job and such...

[Pallantides]

Maybe among some commoners, but the more prominent immigrant families kept their family names.
If you look at the participants of the Eidsvoll assembly you'll notice many foreign surnames:

Collett, Stoltenberg, Wulfsberg, Weidemann, Wedel-Jarlsberg, Wasmuth, Schmith, Schveig, Rosenkilde, Prydz, Middlefart, Heidemann, Fleischer, Cloumann, Christie



Also many names and surnames have been Norwegianized over time, my own surname is of Danish/German origin but today it's viewed as a common Norwegian surname.

[evon]

Maybe among some commoners, but the more prominent immigrant families kept their family names.
If you look at the participants of the Eidsvoll assembly you'll notice many foreign surnames:

Collett, Stoltenberg, Wulfsberg, Weidemann, Wedel-Jarlsberg, Wasmuth, Schmith, Schveig, Rosenkilde, Prydz, Middlefart, Heidemann, Fleischer, Cloumann, Christie



Also many names and surnames have been Norwegianized over time, my own surname is of Danish/German origin but today it's viewed as a common Norwegian surname.

Yes i agree, commoners were the ones who changed their names, but its also whom immigrated most, very few upper class people immigrated to Norway....

[Pallantides]

Around these parts you can find plenty of Norwegianized foreign names and surnames among regular people too.

[evon]

Around these parts you can find plenty of Norwegianized foreign names and surnames among regular people too.

I think you have more late comers in eastern Norway, also more Danish affiliated "nobility", here we have a few German families, but the majority are local derived surnames, though iknow from the immigration records that at one time over 20% of my city had German surnames (this is of course not counting those who changed their name when arriving, which was the norm), while today all these have become Norwegian names, like some of my German ancestry which changed it when they arrived here most likely....

[Pallantides]

In the more upper class areas of Oslo you can encounter the "Lauritz Rosenkilde Lorentzen" types:p

[evon]

In the more upper class areas of Oslo you can encounter the "Lauritz Rosenkilde Lorentzen" types:p

I dont know if Lauritz is really a Foreign name, just weird looking way of writing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauritz

When i hear Lauritz i always think about this guy:

qLgByk3O2ag

[Albion]

Here it's a lot of Irish or Scottish surnames, they're probably more common than Norman ones. One has to remember though that it's been native people they've been marrying and breeding with ever since, so English with Scottish surnames do not necessarily have a lot of Scottish blood unless they're recent migrants.

[Pallantides]

I dont know if Lauritz is really a Foreign name, just weird looking way of writing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauritz

When i hear Lauritz i always think about this guy:

qLgByk3O2ag


I guess it's the same with Cato, both sound rather "Urban" to me though.

[Graham]

Here it's a lot of Irish or Scottish surnames, they're probably more common than Norman ones. One has to remember though that it's been native people they've been marrying and breeding with ever since, so English with Scottish surnames do not necessarily have a lot of Scottish blood unless they're recent migrants.

In the Border clearances. The Scottish Borderlands in 1600's were cleared of its population & a good deal fled to Cumbria & beyond, as well as those who were transported to Ireland.

King James I of England, also took a few Scots men with him to London around the same period. Mingling with the Elite.

[Albion]

In the Border clearances. The Scottish Borderlands in 1600's were cleared of its population & a good deal fled to Cumbria & beyond, as well as those who were transported to Ireland.

King James I of England, also took a few Scots men with him to London around the same period. Mingling with the Elite.

I was thinking more the Highland 'Mc' surnames which are more recent. Border names usually look indistinguishable from Northern English ones, it is only when you research them that you find out (more proof of Scots being a dialect ;) ).

[Kelta]

The problem is not much can be found on her ethnicity in a basic search of the internet. Her mom certainly doesn't look like she is European.

Why even bother with a Miss Universe when countries do not even have a fair representation of their ethnic, cultural background? It is like outsourcing. Here, Norway used to have a stereo-type of having the most beautiful babies in the world with the white blonde hair, rosy plump cheeks, and those blue eyes. I'm sure you can find some attractive women there that better represent you.

[Baldur]

Why even bother with a Miss Universe when countries do not even have a fair representation of their ethnic, cultural background? It is like outsourcing. Here, Norway used to have a stereo-type of having the most beautiful babies in the world with the white blonde hair, rosy plump cheeks, and those blue eyes. I'm sure you can find some attractive women there that better represent you.

Because no one in Scandinavia cares for these stupid competitions and what if an immigrant want to compete in such a competition? Is it the end to the world? Obviously people find her beautiful as she won. It's just a silly competition not anything else. Why do some people put so much weight on this competition? What type of girl should represent South Africa or USA ?

[Pallantides]

Why even bother with a Miss Universe when countries do not even have a fair representation of their ethnic, cultural background? It is like outsourcing. Here, Norway used to have a stereo-type of having the most beautiful babies in the world with the white blonde hair, rosy plump cheeks, and those blue eyes. I'm sure you can find some attractive women there that better represent you.

Majority of Norwegians have dark blonde and light/to medium brown hair, very light blonde hair is quite rare.



There have been a few misses in the past who are fair representation of the national average
http://www.nowak-entertainment.no/mona_grudt.jpg

[Kelta]

Majority of Norwegians have dark blonde and light/to medium brown hair, very light blonde hair is quite rare.

We still have the white and strawberry-blondes in our family, especially among the children. As we age, the melanin darkens over time. I'm happy when the recessives appear and it's part of our Germanic ethnic appearances. In fact maybe some of the vanity or "genetic conceit" is partly why people reproduce. Norwegians and German descent people in the USA seem proud of their heritage. Almost half of Norway's population came to America when we thrived.

You can laugh. Miss Universe was USA Hispanic and Anglo mix. How did I guess earlier with all this political correctness.

http://blogs.mydevstaging.com/blogs/love-and-diapers/files/2011/10/roy-haircut-3.jpg
Blonde Boy example

[Hungarian_master]

Her mother looks Indian.

She maybe Indobrahid+Asian Alpinoid. Not the best example the Norvegian girls. The Western countries have many immigrants.

[Furnace]

Nah, she is too neolithic for that sort of thing.