Classify Miss Italy 2012

[Madonna]

Grazia Pinto

classify her phenotype and where can she pass?

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5561/missuniverseitaly2012.jpg
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[Baldur]

ciao bella!

[Jerreiche]

BAM!! I'm not sure which one I prefer between the Spanish and this one. Bellissima!!

[Madonna]

you need to decide !!!

[Baldur]

I think this girl is the prettiest of all of the contestants.

[Corvus]

Atlanto Med, one of the really good looking ones I have to admit
very harmonious face

[Jerreiche]

you need to decide !!!

ok, I'll go for the Italian then :D she reminds me of an Argentinean volley player Iwas inflatuated with during summer camp

[Toretto]

i think she can pass in all italy .. but i'm not sure

[Madonna]

ok, I'll go for the Italian then :D she reminds me of an Argentinean volley player Iwas inflatuated with during summer camp

you should book a flight to Italy :) !!!

she is nice look very good in the pic No 3

[Prince Carlo]

She can fit in my bed.

[Kazuma]

she is quite "average" for a miss...nothing special

[Peyrol]

she is quite "average" for a miss...nothing special

I agree.

[Visigoth]

Grazia "Maria Pinto"?

[Peyrol]

Grazia "Maria Pinto"?

Pinto is a very tipical southern italian surnames (mean ''Painted'')

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi-prov/P/PINTO.gif

[Baldur]

lol you call her average? :S to me she is like perfect..

[Sikeliot]

I always thought it was a Portuguese surname..

[Peyrol]

I always thought it was a Portuguese surname..

It's one fo the many pan-romance surnames, just as Costa, Silva or Romano.

[Toretto]

Grazia "Maria Pinto"?

hey Visigordo she is Italian :D Pinto is also a Italian surname...

[Peyrol]

lol you call her average? :S to me she is like perfect..

No, this is perfect.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kkZwMN4mnzk/UAuxoFGto6I/AAAAAAAACOg/FtdsnAAxNYU/s1600/ElisabettaCanalis2.jpg

http://www.notiziario.net/elisabettacanalis/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/elisabetta-canalis-il-sorriso-51.jpg

http://www.altezzaepeso.com/images/stories/famosos9/elisabetta-canalis.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-URuS-IQi-Uo/ThXZapZo_tI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/bZkCt6LQsv4/s1600/elisabetta_canalis.jpg

[Incal]

Hot, as almost all Italian ladies.

[Damião de Góis]

It's one fo the many pan-romance surnames, just as Costa, Silva or Romano.

I've heard of Costa being pan-romance, but Silva? That's shocking news to me :eek:

[Atlantic Islander]

I've heard of Costa being pan-romance, but Silva? That's shocking news to me :eek:

It's not.


Silva Name Meaning
Portuguese, Galician, and Jewish (Sephardic): habitational name from any of the many places called Silva, or a topographic name from silva ‘thicket’, ‘bramble’.

[Sikeliot]

Also I have never met anyone with the name Romano who was not Italian

[Libertas]

No, this is perfect.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kkZwMN4mnzk/UAuxoFGto6I/AAAAAAAACOg/FtdsnAAxNYU/s1600/ElisabettaCanalis2.jpg

http://www.notiziario.net/elisabettacanalis/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/elisabetta-canalis-il-sorriso-51.jpg

http://www.altezzaepeso.com/images/stories/famosos9/elisabetta-canalis.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-URuS-IQi-Uo/ThXZapZo_tI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/bZkCt6LQsv4/s1600/elisabetta_canalis.jpg

Great body but coarse, big-lipped face.:picard1:

[Baldur]

No, this is perfect.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kkZwMN4mnzk/UAuxoFGto6I/AAAAAAAACOg/FtdsnAAxNYU/s1600/ElisabettaCanalis2.jpg

http://www.notiziario.net/elisabettacanalis/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/elisabetta-canalis-il-sorriso-51.jpg

http://www.altezzaepeso.com/images/stories/famosos9/elisabetta-canalis.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-URuS-IQi-Uo/ThXZapZo_tI/AAAAAAAAAmQ/bZkCt6LQsv4/s1600/elisabetta_canalis.jpg

No man look what kind of men she has been with :picard1:

[Mortimer]

hot, very good looking. i think she is meditteranean. and fits well in italy

[Prince Carlo]

I've heard of Costa being pan-romance, but Silva? That's shocking news to me :eek:

Silva and Da Silva are common surnames in Italy.

Dafne Da Silva - Miss Muretto and Miss Universe Campania. :D

http://static.ivg.it/speciali/missmuretto/50miss/large/20a.jpg

[MM81]

Hot, as almost all Italian ladies.

It would be cool if it were true... But it isn't, sadly :(

[Baldur]

It would be cool if it were true... But it isn't, sadly :(

Lol Italian women are known to be the best looking ones.

[The Alchemist]

Great body but coarse, big-lipped face.:picard1:

It's strange what you wrote. I personally don't like her face at all (she doesn't have refined traits), but her big lips are the only good thing, imo. I'd like to have bigger lips, thin ones aren't beautiful at all, imo.

[MM81]

Grazia Pinto

classify her phenotype and where can she pass?

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5561/missuniverseitaly2012.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5903/galleryphoto1351858404i.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8059/graziamariapintomissita.jpg
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/9053/thbgallerymedium.jpg
Transitional between atlanto-med and dinarid, IMO.

[MM81]

It's strange what you wrote. I personally don't like her face at all (she doesn't have refined traits), but her big lips are the only good thing, imo. I'd like to have bigger lips, thin ones aren't beautiful at all, imo.
I love sardinian girls, they're usually so pretty. But miss Canalis isn't my "best choice" from that region, too. Her face isn't refined at all. Great body, but that face... Well, I wouldn't mind to spend a night with her, obviously... But this sardinian girl is far better IMO:
http://digilander.libero.it/giorgia.palmas82/foto/giorgia-palmas-5.jpg

[Madonna]

I love sardinian girls, they're usually so pretty. But miss Canalis isn't my "best choice" from that region, too. Her face isn't refined at all. Great body, but that face... Well, I wouldn't mind to spend a night with her, obviously... But this sardinian girl is far better IMO:
http://digilander.libero.it/giorgia.palmas82/foto/giorgia-palmas-5.jpg

whats wrong with her face really?

[MM81]

^ The girl I posted before is called Giorgia Palmas and is almost perfect, according to my taste. I love mediterranean girls and she's a top class med girl IMO. Miss Canalis is too "square" instead. I like girls with softer features, I perceive women with square and not refined facial features too masculine and "aggressive". I might be wrong, of course: it's just my personal taste :)

[Madonna]

^ The girl I posted before is called Giorgia Palmas and is almost perfect, according to my taste. I love mediterranean girls and she's a top class med girl IMO. Miss Canalis is too "square" instead. I like girls with softer features, I perceive women with square and not refined facial features too masculine and "aggressive". I might be wrong, of course: it's just my personal taste :)

ok I understand

[Toretto]

i love her... one of the best imho in Italy, but she is only an actress

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YWcjBniqi4Y/ULxoTrVLnuI/AAAAAAAAA3U/XPNPT6tU46Q/s1600/giulia-michelini-015.jpg
http://www.today.it/~media/zoom/59337040007193/giulia-michelini-primo-piano.jpg
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http://www.spettegola.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/giulia-michelini-500x333.jpg

[Peyrol]

I've heard of Costa being pan-romance, but Silva? That's shocking news to me :eek:

It is simply derived from a local distorsion of latin ''Selva'' (forest)

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi-prov/S/SILVA.gif

[bimo]

giorgia palmas is 10+ ;)

[Libertas]

I hate thick lips or high cheekbones in a woman.

[Damião de Góis]

Silva and Da Silva are common surnames in Italy.

Dafne Da Silva - Miss Muretto and Miss Universe Campania. :D

http://static.ivg.it/speciali/missmuretto/50miss/large/20a.jpg

Da Silva? Looks like it has foreign origin then. Silva is the most common surname here btw. It's like Smith in England and Rossi(?) in Italy.

[Peyrol]

Da Silva? Looks like it has foreign origin then. Silva is the most common surname here btw. It's like Smith in England and Rossi(?) in Italy.

Top 50 surnames here:

1 ROSSI
2 RUSSO
3 FERRARI
4 ESPOSITO
5 BIANCHI
6 ROMANO
7 COLOMBO
8 RICCI
9 MARINO
10 GRECO
11 BRUNO
12 GALLO
13 CONTI
14 DE LUCA
15 MANCINI
16 COSTA
17 GIORDANO
18 RIZZO
19 LOMBARDI
20 MORETTI
21 BARBIERI
22 FONTANA
23 SANTORO
24 MARIANI
25 RINALDI
26 CARUSO
27 FERRARA
28 GALLI
29 MARTINI
30 LEONE
31 LONGO
32 GENTILE
33 MARTINELLI
34 VITALE
35 LOMBARDO
36 SERRA
37 COPPOLA
38 DE SANTIS
39 D'ANGELO
40 MARCHETTI
41 PARISI
42 VILLA
43 CONTE
44 FERRARO
45 FERRI
46 FABBRI
47 BIANCO
48 MARINI
49 GRASSO
50 VALENTINI
51 MESSINA

[The Alchemist]

I hate thick lips or high cheekbones in a woman.

It sounds strange. Both are considered attractive features by the majority. I personally don't like too full lips, but a medium size is ideal (like Canalis). Thin lips aren't attractive at all on a woman, imo. And i tend to like broad cheekbones much (and high), like kinda diamond shape. But ok, these are just my tastes ;)

[Sikeliot]

Da Silva is a Portuguese surname.

[alfieb]

I don't know how this thread could have gone five pages without the fact that she's an ethnic Sicilian and was Miss Sicily prior to becoming Miss Italy even coming up once. Even Sardinia is being discussed, which has nothing at all to do with her. Funny.

Anyway, she is gorgeous, and I'm not only saying that because she is from Catania. I would think the same if she were from Crotone or Catanzaro.

[tEhSaint]

Alpine-Mediterranid blend, with a vague EastMed tendency about her.

[The Alchemist]

4/10.

[MelinusMargos]

Gracile med with coarse med influence.

[Ouistreham]

Top 50 surnames here:

1 ROSSI
2 RUSSO
3 FERRARI
4 ESPOSITO
5 BIANCHI
6 ROMANO
7 COLOMBO
8 RICCI
9 MARINO
10 GRECO
11 BRUNO
12 GALLO
13 CONTI
14 DE LUCA
15 MANCINI
16 COSTA
17 GIORDANO
18 RIZZO
19 LOMBARDI
20 MORETTI
21 BARBIERI
22 FONTANA
23 SANTORO
24 MARIANI
25 RINALDI
26 CARUSO
27 FERRARA
28 GALLI
29 MARTINI
30 LEONE
31 LONGO
32 GENTILE
33 MARTINELLI
34 VITALE
35 LOMBARDO
36 SERRA
37 COPPOLA
38 DE SANTIS
39 D'ANGELO
40 MARCHETTI
41 PARISI
42 VILLA
43 CONTE
44 FERRARO
45 FERRI
46 FABBRI
47 BIANCO
48 MARINI
49 GRASSO
50 VALENTINI
51 MESSINA

I expected more similarity with Corsica.
Except for Rossi (obviously), Mariani and Marchetti, the set of most common Corsican patronyms (those registered at birth in the years 1966-1990) is remarkably different:

1 ALBERTINI
2 LUCIANI
3 MATTEI
4 ROSSI
5 CASANOVA
6 POLI
7 PAOLI
8 SANTONI
9 BARTOLI
10 LECA
11 FILIPPI
12 PIETRI
13 AGOSTINI
14 MARIANI
15 ANDREANI
16 GRAZIANI
17 ORSINI
18 NICOLAI
19 COSTA
20 GIUDICELLI
21 POGGI
22 CESARI
23 MONDOLONI
24 COLOMBANI
25 SUSINI
26 TORRE
27 COLONNA
28 BATTESTI
29 BERNARDINI
30 PASQUALINI
31 SANTUCCI
32 FRANCESCHI
33 GRIMALDI
34 PIERI
35 PERETTI
36 MORETTI
37 MARCHETTI
38 SANNA
39 CASTELLI
40 SANTINI
41 ALFONSI
42 CARLOTTI
43 GERONIMI
44 DOMINICI
45 SAVELLI
46 MARTINETTI
47 ACQUAVIVA
48 RENUCCI
49 FERNANDEZ
50 ORSONI

http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/hitreg.cgi?periode=4&code=09

Names ending in -i are dominant. Must be the Tuscan parentage (I have noticed than endings in -o or -a are rather Northern and/or Southern Italian).

[Scandalf]

I don't know how this thread could have gone five pages without the fact that she's an ethnic Sicilian and was Miss Sicily prior to becoming Miss Italy even coming up once. Even Sardinia is being discussed, which has nothing at all to do with her. Funny.

Anyway, she is gorgeous, and I'm not only saying that because she is from Catania. I would think the same if she were from Crotone or Catanzaro.

Sti catanesi...

[Longobarda]

Pinto is a very tipical southern italian surnames (mean ''Painted'')

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi-prov/P/PINTO.gif

She is sicilian

[Longobarda]

I always thought it was a Portuguese surname..

Pinto is a hebrew surname

[Longobarda]

Top 50 surnames here:

1 ROSSI
2 RUSSO
3 FERRARI
4 ESPOSITO
5 BIANCHI
6 ROMANO
7 COLOMBO
8 RICCI
9 MARINO
10 GRECO
11 BRUNO
12 GALLO
13 CONTI
14 DE LUCA
15 MANCINI
16 COSTA
17 GIORDANO
18 RIZZO
19 LOMBARDI
20 MORETTI
21 BARBIERI
22 FONTANA
23 SANTORO
24 MARIANI
25 RINALDI
26 CARUSO
27 FERRARA
28 GALLI
29 MARTINI
30 LEONE
31 LONGO
32 GENTILE
33 MARTINELLI
34 VITALE
35 LOMBARDO
36 SERRA
37 COPPOLA
38 DE SANTIS
39 D'ANGELO
40 MARCHETTI
41 PARISI
42 VILLA
43 CONTE
44 FERRARO
45 FERRI
46 FABBRI
47 BIANCO
48 MARINI
49 GRASSO
50 VALENTINI
51 MESSINA

Here where? No central-northern Italy surnames?

[Damião de Góis]

Pinto is a hebrew surname

No it's not. Apparently it exists in Portugal, Spain and Italy but the highest incidence is in Portugal:

http://forebears.io/surnames/pinto#nations2014

Seems to be a northern portuguese surname:

http://locatemyname.com/portugal/Pinto

[Longobarda]

No it's not. Apparently it exists in Portugal, Spain and Italy but the highest incidence is in Portugal:

http://forebears.io/surnames/pinto#nations2014

Seems to be a northern portuguese surname:

http://locatemyname.com/portugal/Pinto

I know. But it is a hebrew surname

[Damião de Góis]

I know. But it is a hebrew surname

You are mistaken about this. What makes you think it's hebrew? What would be the hebrew equivalent btw?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I know. But it is a hebrew surname

No, it's not. This should be very simple to understand: Sephardic Jews adopted Portuguese and Spanish surnames (Pinto, Perera/Pereira, etc.). German Jews adopted German surnames (such as Rosenberg, Glass, etc.) It would take you less than a few minutes to do this research yourself but you're incredibly lazy.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Here where? No central-northern Italy surnames?

What are you babbling about, fool? A number of surnames listed there appear as some of the most popular surnames in Lombardy, such as Rossi, Fontana, Colombo, etc.
http://www.italianames.com/lombardy-last-names.php

You should spend less time discussing foreign nations and begin learning about your own.

[Mens-Sarda]

No it's not. Apparently it exists in Portugal, Spain and Italy but the highest incidence is in Portugal:

http://forebears.io/surnames/pinto#nations2014

Seems to be a northern portuguese surname:

http://locatemyname.com/portugal/Pinto

There are similar surnames also in Sardinia (obviously in our Sardinian language, not in Italian) it seems that they are pan-romance surnames :

Pintus or Pintadu (painted)
Pintore (painter)

[Vigilance]

No, it's not. This should be very simple to understand: Sephardic Jews adopted Portuguese and Spanish surnames (Pinto, Perera/Pereira, etc.). German Jews adopted German surnames (such as Rosenberg, Glass, etc.) It would take you less than a few minutes to do this research yourself but you're incredibly lazy.

It seems to me that Jews usually took the most common surnames or upperclass surnames of the natives rather than going for unorthodox/creative surnames.

Pinto, D'Silva, D'Souza, Pereira, very very common names of Eurasians in Singapore.

[Longobarda]

You are mistaken about this. What makes you think it's hebrew? What would be the hebrew equivalent btw?

I found it in a hebrew cognomix. There is not a hebrew equivalent. They use "Pinto" as it is used in the relevant countries. There are hebrew surnames which are spanish, portuguese, italian, french, german etc. For eample hebrews have surnames which trace their profession (Zapatero, Smith, etc., just as an example), or plants and flowers (Parra, Cerezo etc.) or their origin cities or nations (Rimini, Espana, Valencia etc.) or metals (Rubino, Goldin, Goldstein, Platero etc.). This in a brief resumen.

[Longobarda]

What are you babbling about, fool? A number of surnames listed there appear as some of the most popular surnames in Lombardy, such as Rossi, Fontana, Colombo, etc.
http://www.italianames.com/lombardy-last-names.php

You should spend less time discussing foreign nations and begin learning about your own.

Rossi, Fontana and Colombo are spread in all the peninsula.

Typical northern italian surnames? Parodi, Brambilla, Lissoni, Longoni, Locatelli, Venier, Fini etc. etc.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Rossi, Fontana and Colombo are spread in all the peninsula.

Typical northern italian surnames? Parodi, Brambilla, Lissoni, Longoni, Locatelli, Venier, Fini etc. etc.

The list of surnames the person posted are the most common surnames in Italy. Obviously if a surname is only common in one region it is unlikely to show up in the top 50. Do you understand now? It's not complicated to understand.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

It seems to me that Jews usually took the most common surnames or upperclass surnames of the natives rather than going for unorthodox/creative surnames.

Pinto, D'Silva, D'Souza, Pereira, very very common names of Eurasians in Singapore.

Sephardic Jews often took surnames that touched on nature for some reason (Pereira/Perera, Silva, Flores). Patronymic surnames appear (to me but I haven't looked deeply into it) less common.

[Longobarda]

The list of surnames the person posted are the most common surnames in Italy. Obviously if a surname is only common in one region it is unlikely to show up in the top 50. Do you understand now? It's not complicated to understand.

It is enough that YOU understand. Us, very normal people, are not lucky like you, genius of arts, maths and sciences.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

It is enough that YOU understand. Us, very normal people, are not lucky like you, genius of arts, maths and sciences.

I guarantee no one else had difficulty understanding the obvious because it is obvious.