Bosniaks in Turkey

[Hurrem sultana]

http://medya.todayszaman.com/todayszaman/2011/06/05/bosniak.jpgBosnians in Bayrampaşa build edifices and fountains that have the characteristics of Bosnian architecture.



Bosnian communities in İstanbul continue to cling to the roots of their ancestors decades after first migrating to Turkey. Emerging at the end of the 19th and the start of the 20th century, Bosnian Muslims settled in large numbers, predominantly in the northwestern region of Marmara.
Today, thousands curiously are keeping their old Bosniak traditions alive.

Throughout Turkey there are towns named after Bosnia and its surrounding regions. İstanbul’s largest Bosniak population is located in Bayrampaşa, where almost all residents have Bosniak or Balkan ancestry.

Walking through the streets of Bayrampaşa, it is not unusual to hear Bosnian being spoken. Multiple replicas of the famous Old Bridge of Mostar are spread throughout the town. It is full of constant reminders that one is walking through a Bosniak part of İstanbul.

This particular community also differs from most in Turkey because a large portion of its residents are tall with light skin, eyes and hair. Many say that that is how they are recognized as Bosniaks.

To keep the spirit of the their culture alive even today, the residents of Bayrampaşa have associations and organize events to keep a constant tie with Bosnia, Sandzak, Macedonia and other Balkan regions where there is a large Bosniak population.

Wedding ceremonies are celebrated in a highly traditional manner. Everything from the dancing to the clothing is preserved and done as it was hundreds of years ago.

The small but famous Sancak Sports Club is also located in Bayrampaşa. Founded in 2005, it has already contributed seven basketball stars to the Turkish national team, as well as to other Turkish leagues. Club owner and former Turkish national player Zülfü Kosut says that the fact that so many Bosniaks are tall makes for a wide selection of talent in basketball. He also adds that most of the players speak Bosnian. This, he says, helps when they are calling out the game plan amongst each other on the court.

Other organizations such as the Bosna-Sandzak Association, work hard to keep certain traditions alive within the community. Contacts with the homeland are inevitable because there are always aspects that will keep their traditional roots dear and close to heart. The president of the association, Zahit Büyükbayrak, was happy to say that Bosniaks from all over the world have been visiting Bayrampaşa and strengthening ties. Many forms of charity also maintains cooperation with their homeland.

“We are always on call; this association is always open to whoever may need help. Though we focus a lot on keeping ties with Bosnia and Sandzak, and doing many charity drives and other forms of help for that region, we never turn our backs on someone who needs us, even outside the Balkans.” Büyükbayrak said.

When asked what they, as a community, think is key to keeping the Bosniak traditions alive in the future, they all agree on language.

“Our grandparents never spoke any Turkish, they always spoke to us in Bosnian, but now it’s easier for us and our children to communicate in Turkish, so unfortunately the Bosnian language is slowly starting to fade in some households.” Bekir Yaşar, owner of the family business Hot Dizayn said.

However, after the Balkan conflict in the 1990s, Turkish and Bosnian ties strengthened.

The Bosniak Balkan Federation plays another important role for the Bosniaks living within Turkey. They are the umbrella for all Balkan societies in the country. Organizing meetings and maintaining the overall organization of the Bosniaks and their communities. Founded in 2003 by Ahmed Kemal Baysak, it connects six main cities, İzmir, Adana, Adapazarı, İnegöl, Karamüsel and Sefaköy as well as 10 other associations.

The main goal of the Bosniak Balkan Federation is to better cultural and social as well economic relations with the Balkans. Additionally, it shows support from the Bosniaks in Turkey. They work for an overall goal of achieving a stronger Bosniak population and community all over the world.

[Hurrem sultana]

Bosnian news about bosniaks in Turkey

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[Hurrem sultana]

Very interesting program,but i cant find the whole :) these people speak very good bosnian you would never say they did not even see Bosnia,the oldest women dont even speak turkish

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[dralos]

they dont look that light and tall to be seen as uber folks in turkey:D

[Hurrem sultana]

they dont look that light and tall to be seen as uber folks in turkey:D

:picard1: leave my thread

[dralos]

we have democracy here in apricity not Islamic law

[Hurrem sultana]

This particular community also differs from most in Turkey because a large portion of its residents are tall with light skin, eyes and hair. Many say that that is how they are recognized as Bosniaks.


;) :D

[dralos]

the video dissaproves that

[Hurrem sultana]

the video shows old people

[Mraz]

Is the % of Bosniaks that moved to Turkey when the Austrians annexed Bosnia known?
Dralos weren't you supposed to be banned 4 days?

[dralos]

look from 1:59:D and you see that they show young ones too

[dralos]

Is the % of Bosniaks that moved to Turkey when the Austrians annexed Bosnia known?
Dralos weren't you supposed to be banned 4 days?
i'm unbannable and btw i wasnt online:D

[Hurrem sultana]

Is the % of Bosniaks that moved to Turkey when the Austrians annexed Bosnia known?
Dralos weren't you supposed to be banned 4 days?

I have no idea but i guess many ,apparently more bosniaks in Turkey than Bosnia

[Don Arb]

Very interesting program,but i cant find the whole :) these people speak very good bosnian you would never say they did not even see Bosnia,the oldest women dont even speak turkish

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Bosniak women do the same as albanian women sitting around the table cooking all the day for 50 family members, that's the only career allowed for women in Turkey and all of them are covered wtf

[Dengizik]

Bosniak women do the same as albanian women sitting around the table cooking all the day for 50 family members, that's the only career allowed for women in Turkey and all of them are covered wtf

In the 1930s, Turkey gave full political rights to women, including the right to elect and be elected locally (in 1930) and nationwide (in 1934). (when the time albanian women even dont allowed go out home).

Your all posts bullshit. and you are the definition of bullshit. :thumb001:

[Hurrem sultana]

a village in Turkey showing bosniak kids with bosnian flag..awww so cute :)

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2333/resim084mo2.jpg

[Partizan]

In the 1930s, Turkey gave full political rights to women, including the right to elect and be elected locally (in 1930) and nationwide (in 1934). (when the time albanian women even dont allowed go out home).

Your all posts bullshit. and you are the definition of bullshit. :thumb001:

Also the first female fighter pilot in the World was a Turkish woman, Sabiha Gökçen! :thumb001:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg/200px-Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg

Meanwhile in Albania:

http://www.travelfunny.com/funny-pictures/funny-europe/funny-albania-01.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

Also the first female fighter pilot in the World was a Turkish woman, Sabiha Gökçen! :thumb001:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg/200px-Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg

Meanwhile in Albania:

http://www.travelfunny.com/funny-pictures/funny-europe/funny-albania-01.jpg

Actually she was part Bosniak,her mother was bosniak

[Partizan]

Actually she was part Bosniak,her mother was bosniak

I know. However she was from Turkey and was a member of Turkish army.

[Hurrem sultana]

I know. However she was from Turkey and was a member of Turkish army.

Hahah,but when you mention it on a thread about bosniaks from Turkey,it deserves to be mentioned:thumb001:

[Fabian]

In the 1930s, Turkey gave full political rights to women, including the right to elect and be elected locally (in 1930) and nationwide (in 1934). (when the time albanian women even dont allowed go out home).

Your all posts bullshit. and you are the definition of bullshit. :thumb001:

Yes women in Albania have more rights, that is generally the trend in secular societies...

The average Balkan patriarch is a gentlemen compared to the typical Anatolian mutt.

[Hurrem sultana]

Yes women in Albania have more rights, that is generally the trend in secular societies...

The average Balkan patriarch is a gentlemen compared to the typical Anatolian mutt.

Seriously dude,in Bosnia when a man is known to be very strict people say he is a "real siptar",you are known to be cruel against your women..at least before

[dralos]

Seriously dude,in Bosnia when a man is known to be very strict people say he is a "real siptar",you are known to be cruel against your women..at least before
bosniaks are like serbs when it comes to alboz so you're super biased lol
and you are very primitive people lol:D

[Hurrem sultana]

bosniaks are like serbs when it comes to alboz so you're super biased lol
and you are very primitive people lol:D

I know one bosnian woman who used to be married to an albanian,he would not let her go out alone EVER

:eek:

[Mraz]

It looks like you got a lot of serbian husbands there! and muslim bosniak trash got 4 wifes at home, you have no right on this.

There are no Bosniak with 4 women, and even if it happens, the guy who do that would be very very brave.

[Cannabis Sativa]

Also the first female fighter pilot in the World was a Turkish woman, Sabiha Gökçen! :thumb001:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg/200px-Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg

Damn, my favourite. She has been the worst nightmare of kıros. My grandfather has supported her with the artillery brigade in Çarsancak District of Tunceli in 1937. Peace be upon her.

[TheMagnificent]

Bosniak women do the same as albanian women sitting around the table cooking all the day for 50 family members, that's the only career allowed for women in Turkey and all of them are covered wtf

Turkey has a higher proportion of female professors than any of the EU countries (about 25%) and nearly half of other academic staff are female. Also the proportion of women in engineering is higher than in many other European countries.
Source: http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/document_library/pdf_06/turkey-research-funding_en.pdf

Besides, we have had a female prime minister, Tansu Çiller, which is something that not many countries can say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tansu_%C3%87iller

[Fabian]

There are no Bosniak with 4 women, and even if it happens, the guy who do that would be very very brave.

Good to hear, polygamy is a plague. In practice outside some very rare exceptions it will infringe a women's basic rights.

[Onur]

:picard1:

No we are proud of our own culture,you see theese people still having bosnian flags in Turkey,,,even their parents never saw Bosnia ;)
Albos are trying to destroy your beautiful thread. Try not to be fooled by them please.

[Annihilus]

Also the first female fighter pilot in the World was a Turkish woman, Sabiha Gökçen! :thumb001:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg/200px-Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg

She was orphan and adopted by Ataturk afaik. Not sure what she was, some say Armenian.

[Don Arb]

Turkey has a higher proportion of female professors than any of the EU countries (about 25%) and nearly half of other academic staff are female. Also the proportion of women in engineering is higher than in many other European countries.
Source: http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/document_library/pdf_06/turkey-research-funding_en.pdf

Besides, we have had a female prime minister, Tansu Çiller, which is something that not many countries can say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tansu_%C3%87iller

you cant hide the fact that you are islamic society dude and thats what your lifestyle is,your women mostly are covered thats the truth, you shouldnt be ashamed of your islamic culture and traditions

[Partizan]

She was orphan and adopted by Ataturk afaik. Not sure what she was, some say Armenian.

Nah, she had a family but she was poor, this article explains enough:

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/ermeni-iddiasini--ilk-ucus-tarihi-curuttu/guncel/haberdetayarsiv/29.01.2010/265366/default.htm?ver=15


Dünyanın ilk kadın savaş pilotu ünvanına sahip, Atatürkün manevi kızı Sabiha Gökçenin Ermeni olduğu iddialarına bir tepki de, 22 Mart 2004te TRTde gösterilecek "Sabiha Gökçen Türk Kızı, Gök Kızı, Atatürk Kızı" adlı belgeseli hazırlayan yapımcı Gülşah Çelikerden geldi. Çeliker, "Üç yıl boyunca yaptığım araştırma sırasında, Gökçenin Ermeni olduğuna dair hiçbir bulguya rastlamadım" dedi. İddianın yer aldığı haberde birçok hata olduğunu anlatan Çeliker, "Gökçen iddia edildiği gibi 5-6 yaşında evlat edinilseydi, 1935te uçtuğu zaman 15 yaşında olması gerekirdi. Oysa 1935te 22 yaşındaydı" diye konuştu. Sabiha Gökçenin yazar Oktay Verel tarafından kaleme alınan ve Türk Hava Kurumu tarafından kitaplaştırılan anılarında ailesi hakkında geniş bilgi verildiğini, Edirne Deftardarı babası Hafız İzzet Beyin Jön Türk olduğu gerekçesiyle Bursaya sürüldüğünü belirten Çeliker sözlerini şöyle sürdürdü:"Babasının ilk evliliğinden Şefik ve Nazime adlı iki çocuğu vardır. Annesi Hayriye Hanımın da ilk evliliğinden Neşet ve Nafia adlı iki çocukları bulunmaktadır. Babasıyla annesi evlenir. İlk çocuklarının adını Saime koyarlar. Bu arada annesinin oğlu Neşetin de Mukaddes adında bir çocuğu dünyaya gelmiştir. Torun sahibi annesi Sabiha Gökçene hamile kalır. Onu istemez ama düşürmeyi başaramaz. 22 Mart 1913te Sabiha Gökçen dünyaya gelir." Babası Bursaya sürüldü Çeliker, Gökçenin Atatürkle tanışmasını da şöyle aktardı: "1925te bir yurt gezisine çıkan Atatürk, Bursada bir hafta kalacaktır. Gökçenin yanında kaldığı abisi Neşet de, Atatürkün kalacağı köşke koruma olarak girer. Atatürk köşkte olduğu bir sırada Gökçen tüm korumaları atlatarak Atatürke ulaşır. Atatürk kızın bu cesareti karşısında onun kim olduğunu öğrenmek ister ve yanına çağırır. Konuşurlar ve Atatürk, Sabihayı evlat edinmek istediğini söyler. Abisi Neşeti çağırır. Abi de buna izin verir." 1925te evlat edindi İddia, Genelkurmay ve THKyı kızdırdı Genelkurmay Başkanlığı, Sabiha Gökçenin, Atatürkün Türk kadınının Türk toplumu içinde bulunmasını istediği yeri gösteren bir sembol olduğunu belirterek, böyle bir sembolü tartışmaya açmanın milli bütünlüğe ve toplumsal barışa katkısı bulunmayacağını ifade etti. Konuyla ilgili açıklamada, "Bir iddiayı, milli duygu ve değerleri de kötüye kullanarak yayımlamanın habercilik olarak nitelendirilmesini kabul edilemez. Son zamanlarda Türk medyasının bir bölümünde sağlıksız, tehlikeli düşüncelere sorumsuzca yer verildiği kaygıyla izlenmektedir" ifadeleri kullanıldı. Türk Hava Kurumu (THK) Genel Sekreteri emekli Hava Pilot Tuğgeneral Ahmet Ergönen imzasıyla THK adına yapılan açıklamada da şöyle denildi: "Gökçen hakkındaki bu iddia, önceden bilindiği halde neden sağlığında ortaya atılmamış, ona neden cevap hakkı tanınmamıştır? Bu durum, işin planlı olduğunu göstermektedir." Açıklamada, Gökçenin anılarının yer aldığı kitap ve nüfus kütüğü araştırmalarından elde edilen bilgi ve belgelerin de medya kuruluşlarına gönderileceği vurgulandı. Planlı bir çalışma Ailesini biliyorum, iddiaların aslı yok Atatürkün manevi kızı Ülkü Adatepe, dün eşi Öke Adatepe ve Gökçeni yakından tanıyan gazeteci yazar Orhan Karaveliyle basın toplantısı düzenledi. Adatepe, "Çok sevdiğim ablam büyük haksızlığa uğradığı için basın açıklaması yapmak istedim. Gökçen, ilk eşimden dolayı, çocuklarımın akrabasıdır. Tüm ailesini biliyorum. İddiaların aslı yok" dedi. "Atatürkün ismini şerefiyle taşıyan muhterem bir insana böyle iftiralar atılması beni üzdü" diyen Adatepe, Gökçenin ailesinden yaşayan kimse kalmadığı için yasal yollara başvurma hakkının da olmadığını söyledi. Orhan Karaveli de, "Gökçen Ermeni, Rum, Musevi veya İtalyan olabilirdi. Bunlara karşı değiliz ama böyle bir şey yok" diye konuştu. Dava açacak akraba yok.


Only source of the Armenian claim is Agos, an Armenian nationalist/chauvinist newspaper.

[dado]

nice story about bosniak in argentina....he spoke bosnian only with his father and it's amaizing how good his bosnian is

he came in bosnia just to meet his family

his father was probably with nazis so he escaped for Argentina and started his family there


meet Ramon Hošić

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[Hurrem sultana]

Ramon :D


otkud bosnjaci u Argentini?

[dado]

@ bosnian aka luna :)

well there is not too much of them in latin america...i guess his father was nazi so he escaped there

[Sultan Suleiman]

They are Turks, not Bosniaks.

Just as your children after a generation will be Swedes, deal with it. :coffee:

[Hurrem sultana]

They are Turks, not Bosniaks.

Just as your children after a generation will be Swedes, deal with it. :coffee:

Depends if they speak bosnian and feel bosnian:rolleyes:

[Sultan Suleiman]

Depends if they speak bosnian and feel bosnian:rolleyes:

In the end they will be assimilated under two generations my dear S*l*hson :rolleyes:

[Mraz]

I think I don't care if my offsprings are assimilated or not, I'd put them to the mosque at an early age and make sure they frequent the most radical imams :laugh:

[dralos]

I think I don't care if my offsprings are assimilated or not, I'd put them to the mosque at an early age and make sure they frequent the most radical imams :laugh:
moroccan style:D

[Loki]

Depends if they speak bosnian and feel bosnian:rolleyes:

They might feel half ... something else :D

[Mraz]

moroccan style:D

Nope, I'd forbid them to go for any native, only headscarf and religious women, if they want a native, then they'd have to convert them :laugh:
If I have daughters, I'd trade them for a new car or something.

[dralos]

Nope, I'd forbid them to go for any native, only headscarf and religious women, if they want a native, then they'd have to convert them :laugh:
If I have daughters, I'd trade them for a new car or something.
thats the way,in flanders you have your mosque:D

[Mraz]

thats the way,in flanders you have your mosque:D

Here too, but no hot chicks among the prayers :(

[dralos]

Here too, but no hot chicks among the prayers :(
they keep the hot ones away from the predators,the mosque is like a water source where lions watch for preys:D

[Mraz]

they keep the hot ones away from the predators,the mosque is like a water source where lions watch for preys:D

If it keeps this way, I'll finish as Mrazoglu :D

[dralos]

If it keeps this way, I'll finish as Mrazoglu :D
ahahhahhaah:D

[alb0zfinest]

Also the first female fighter pilot in the World was a Turkish woman, Sabiha Gökçen! :thumb001:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg/200px-Sabiha_g%C3%B6k%C3%A7en.jpg

Meanwhile in Albania:

http://www.travelfunny.com/funny-pictures/funny-europe/funny-albania-01.jpg

Again,as always, talking garbage without knowing anything.
Do you know that the president of Kosova is a woman. Do you know how many women are in the Albanian parliament and kosovar one? do you know how many women serve in the Kosovo and Albanian police force?

[Hurrem sultana]

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[teodor11]

They are Turks, not Bosniaks.

Just as your children after a generation will be Swedes, deal with it. :coffee:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHB01rtwwzk