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east
12-16-2012, 09:02 PM
Students from Harvard University in the U.S. have almost perfect scores on tests SAT . They have to be proven bright young people. This means they are able to get into Harvard and should not have a problem with a simple logical question, right?

Try to solve the following logic puzzle.

Bat and ball cost $ 1.10.

The bat costs $ 1 more than the ball.

How much is the ball?

If you think the answer is "10 cents", then you are wrong. And most students "Harvard" have precisely this effect.
Your turn. Count. :)

Sultan Suleiman
12-16-2012, 09:12 PM
x = cost of ball
cost of bat = x + 1
total cost = 1.10 = x + (x + 1) = 2x + 1
2x = 0.10
x = 0.05

So the ball cost 0.05, the bat costs 1 dollar more than the ball, 1.05, and the total is 1.05 + .05 = 1.10

Thank you google :)

Absinthe
12-16-2012, 09:13 PM
$1.05 (bat) + $.05 (ball) = $1.10 total price for both? :) It's simpler than it sounds but very confusing indeed...

Graham
12-16-2012, 09:20 PM
That would give you $1.20

So 5c

Anglojew
12-16-2012, 09:24 PM
People assume its easy so don't think about the wording.

east
12-16-2012, 09:36 PM
I will keep silence till tomorrow :)

Insuperable
12-16-2012, 09:40 PM
Apricity>Harvard

Scarlet Ibis
12-17-2012, 01:21 AM
Oops. My first hunch was $0.10 for the ball, and $1.00 for the bat.

$1.00 is only $0.90 more than $0.10, but you know....mental shortcuts and all.

Piparskeggr
12-17-2012, 01:29 AM
Students from Harvard University in the U.S. have almost perfect scores on tests SAT . They have to be proven bright young people. This means they are able to get into Harvard and should not have a problem with a simple logical question, right?

Try to solve the following logic puzzle.

Bat and ball cost $ 1.10.

The bat costs $ 1 more than the ball.

How much is the ball?

If you think the answer is "10 cents", then you are wrong. And most students "Harvard" have precisely this effect.
Your turn. Count. :)

$1.05 for the bat, $.05 for the ball (answered before reading the rest of the thread, took about half a minute of thinking)

Caismeachd
12-17-2012, 01:35 AM
I couldn't get it. I have a high IQ and scored ok on my SAT but my brain is too impulsive for that stuff.

Graham
12-17-2012, 01:56 AM
...mental shortcuts and all.

Exactly what it is. Could have answered differently, if asked verbally.

Geminus
12-17-2012, 10:37 AM
It's really simple if you write it down like in Vrhbosnian Vanguard's post, which is the best method in most of these kind of questions.
But the intuitive answer of most would be that that the ball costs 10 cents. I guess the human brain naturally just isn't made for solving such questions ;)

east
12-17-2012, 11:36 AM
It's really simple if you write it down like in Vrhbosnian Vanguard's post, which is the best method in most of these kind of questions.
But the intuitive answer of most would be that that the ball costs 10 cents. I guess the human brain naturally just isn't made for solving such questions ;)

:)
There is little catch - the numbers 1.10 and 1. First human reaction is to subtract 1 from 1.10, so comes the easy answer 0.10 $. ;)

Sarmatian
12-17-2012, 11:59 AM
It's very simple arithmetic task. Take the price difference (1$) off the total price and divide by two (the number of products) to get the price of the cheapest one (the ball).

Honestly if Harvard students find it difficult to solve I think US education system is far behind of ex-Soviet school in maths. That is something I withness myself. An average kid of Russian immigrants is far superior to an average Westerner in math but falling behind in social sciences.

Hayalet
12-17-2012, 12:15 PM
If you think the answer is "10 cents", then you are wrong.
I don't see why or how anyone would say 10 cents unless they are forced to give an answer in milliseconds. And there is no way Harvard students will get this wrong, typical Internet urban legend.

Sarmatian
12-17-2012, 12:33 PM
I don't see why or how anyone would say 10 cents unless they are forced to give an answer in milliseconds. And there is no way Harvard students will get this wrong, typical Internet urban legend.

The 'obvious' simplicity of the task is pretty much forcing people into temptation to give an answer in milliseconds. Otherwise people feel they may be labelled thick and retarded. As result they give impulsive answer which appears to be wrong for most of people.

As for Harvard students it may as well be true. They may excel in complicated formulas but as result they often lack the flexibility of mind required to solve such a simple but tricky tasks.

east
12-17-2012, 12:49 PM
I don't see why or how anyone would say 10 cents unless they are forced to give an answer in milliseconds. And there is no way Harvard students will get this wrong, typical Internet urban legend.

Here is the source. There you will find answer of your question and professional comment.

http://www.businessinsider.com/question-that-harvard-students-get-wrong-2012-12

Hayalet
12-17-2012, 12:53 PM
^ Very strange. This doesn't even seem similar to one of them brain teasers to me.

Leon_C
12-17-2012, 01:43 PM
Most Harvard students are going to answer impulsively the first answer that comes to their head because they know they are smart, then they probably think for a few seconds and realise they are wrong, first time I saw this I thought the ball was 10c but then I thought about it and realised it was 5c

Trun
12-17-2012, 02:13 PM
Doubt a Harvard student would mistake that, no matter how absent-minded they are.

Stefan
12-17-2012, 02:17 PM
I doubt somebody with a perfect Math SAT score (or far below perfect) can't get this question.

Kazimiera
12-17-2012, 02:17 PM
Huh? I don't get it despite explanations. Maths was never a strong point of mine.

east
12-17-2012, 07:24 PM
Huh? I don't get it despite explanations. Maths was never a strong point of mine.

But for sure you have your another strong point. :thumb001:

Scarlet Ibis
12-17-2012, 09:08 PM
I think some people might be missing the point. It's not that Harvard students aren't intelligent enough to understand the actual answer. The point, like the article states, is that people tend to answer such questions quickly, and intuitively, with mental shortcuts, possibly because they're overconfident when it comes to answering seemingly easy questions.

dado
12-17-2012, 09:11 PM
i saw it too late...we should have a whole thread for solving this puzzles

east
12-18-2012, 05:34 AM
i saw it too late...we should have a whole thread for solving this puzzles

I think we have such a thread