Oghuz Tribes of Anatolia

[Pecheneg]

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The number of the Oghuz tribes varied in time. During the second half of the 11th century there were 22 main Oghuz tribes according to Mahmud of Kashgar, but Rashid-al-Din listed 24 Oghuz tribes at the beginning of the 14th century.




Tamga (stamp/seal) of Oghuz Tribes
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http://www.anadoluasiretleri.com/Page.php?pid=10
According to the Ottoman tax archives, in a study conducted by Prof Dr Yusuf Halacoglu, 1.140.000 nomadic Turkmen tents/households/families were recorded. (16th - 17th centuries)



another nice source;
http://edergi.manas.edu.kg/index.php/jtcs/article/view/1007/650



Locations of Oghuz tribes
These maps are mainly based on the "Tahrir Defters" and don't forget that maps only include "nomadic Turks" not sedentary ones. (16th-17th centuries)



Alayundlu
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Avshar
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Bayad
http://i47.tinypic.com/6zrcc8.jpg





Bayundur/Bayındır
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Beg-dili
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Chepni
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Chunkar-Barak
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Dodurga
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Döğer
http://i49.tinypic.com/35mkv84.jpg





Eymür
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Iğdir
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Kargyn
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[Pecheneg]

Kayı
http://i50.tinypic.com/2v8ho9s.jpg





Kınık
http://i50.tinypic.com/20jgrj5.jpg





Pecheneg
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Salur/Salgur
http://i49.tinypic.com/2znpcsz.jpg





Varsak
http://i46.tinypic.com/2gucrww.jpg




Yaparlı-Chavundur-Karaevli
http://i49.tinypic.com/9pubnb.jpg





Yazyr-Yazır
http://i47.tinypic.com/2hoiopi.jpg





Yıva
http://i50.tinypic.com/34jdtad.jpg




Yüreğir-Yuregir
http://i47.tinypic.com/euoqyu.jpg







names of nomadic groups according to regions
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[Azalea]

Varsak
http://i46.tinypic.com/2gucrww.jpg

:victory0:

[Dengizik]

there is a town in adana named yüreğir. :)

[Pecheneg]

Varsak
http://i46.tinypic.com/2gucrww.jpg

:victory0:

Varsak rulez :D




btw, nomadic/Yörük Turks of Balkans and their locations
http://i45.tinypic.com/29zrjpw.jpg

[TheMagnificent]

I wonder what tribes Manavlar are part of, since we are called that way. I know there are different theories on that.

[Pecheneg]

there is a town in adana named yüreğir. :)

Most probably named after Yüreğir tribe, here you can see, adana is one of the provinces that Yüreğir tribe mostly settled.
Yüreğir-Yuregir
http://i47.tinypic.com/euoqyu.jpg

[Pecheneg]

I wonder what tribes Manavlar are part of, since we are called that way. I know there are different theories on that.

Benim bildiğim Yörük/Göçebe olmayan batı anadolu Türklerine verilen genel ad "Manav". Önceden Yörük olupta yerleşik hayata geçince "manav" diye anılan birçok köy mevcut mesela.

[Onur]

The Seljuk empire`s monarchy was from Kınık tribe. Btw Kınık is a district in Izmir for centuries and most likely founded by their descendants even before Ottoman era.

The founders of Ottoman empire was from Kayi tribe and their tamga was same as the tamga of Ashina clan of Gokturks and Dulo tribe of Bulgars;

http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/52/kay%C4%B1_37310.jpg

[Partizan]

Well, despite being Ahıska Turkish from fathers' side, there is an Oghuz link from my dad's paternal side(based on what I know from a relative's research and the Kizilbash Turkmen link he found). Also there are only two places with our old family title, one in Artvin/Şavşat(our hometown), one in Kilis. A family in Kilis has the same surname with our old family title(Osmanlı'daki aile lakabı) and those guys claim to be Karakeçili Turkmens.

[Pecheneg]

Mongol(green) -Kypchak(yellow) -Arab (red) tribes
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[Cannabis Sativa]

Mongol(green) -Kypchak(yellow) -Arab (red) tribes
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Reminds me of Partizan's worst dream ever.

[Pecheneg]

I forgot to post Büğdüz-Alkaevli
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[Partizan]

Mongol(green) -Kypchak(yellow) -Arab (red) tribes
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Are Kypchaks here Nogais and Tatars? Despite there is no linguistic evidence, many sources assume that Ahıska Turks are remnants of Kipchaks in Georgia.

[Pecheneg]

Are Kypchaks here Nogais and Tatars?
It can't be since these maps are based on 16th-17th century Ottoman Archival Datas.


as for Mongol tribes in anatolia; (aka Kara Tatars) - They are remnants of Ilkhanate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qaraei

They arrived in the Middle East as part of the Mongol Army when their chief Baiju was the Mongol Commander who invaded Transcaucasia, Anatolia and parts of Persia.
In Turkey they mixed with the native population of Sivas, Kayseri who were Turkmen, while Timur who had invaded the Ottoman Empire moved some 40,000 of them to (Damghan and Torbat-e Heydarieh in Khorasan and also his capital Samarqand).





Despite there is no linguistic evidence, many sources assume that Ahıska Turks are remnants of Kipchaks in Georgia.
They are most probably descendants of 40.000 Cuman-Kypchaq families that Georgian King hired as mercenary warriors in 12th century..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipchaks_in_Georgia

40,000 Cuman-Kipchak families under Otrak moved to settle in Georgia. According to the agreement, each Cuman-Kipchak family was to contribute a fully armed soldier to the Georgian army. They were given land, rearmed and became a regular force under the direct control of the king. Five thousand men were enrolled in the royal guards; the remainder were posted chiefly to frontier regions confronting the Seljuk Turks. They led a semi-nomadic way of life, wintering in the Kartlian lowlands in central Georgia, and carrying out their summertime duties along the foothills of the Caucasus.

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The Meskhetian Turks, a large Muslim community deported from Georgia under the Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin in 1944, also claim sometimes that the medieval Cumans-Kipchaks of Georgia may have been one of their possible ancestors.[4]

^ Yunusov, Arif. The Akhiska (Meskhetian Turks): Twice Deported People. "Central Asia and Caucasus" (Lulea, Sweden), 1999 # 1(2), p. 162-165 (in Russian).

[Su]

Silifke'de hangi tribeler var? Kac tane? Isimlari nelerdir? Ozellikle eskiden Yoruk gibi yasamis -mesela 100 yil evvel- ama suan sehirlesmis Yoruklerinin kolunun adi nedir?

[Pecheneg]

Silifke'de hangi tribeler var? Kac tane? Isimlari nelerdir? Ozellikle eskiden Yoruk gibi yasamis -mesela 100 yil evvel- ama suan sehirlesmis Yoruklerinin kolunun adi nedir?

Hangi İlçede hangi boylar var onu söylemek zor. :)
Ama haritalara baktıysan çoğu ilde neredeyse her boydan insan var. Zaten Selçuklu ve Osmanlı aynı boya mensup aşiretlerin kümelenmesine izin vermemiş, anadolu'nun her köşesine dağıtmış tehdit oluşturmasınlar diye.
Akdenizdekilerin çoğunu Avşar, Varsak ve Yüreğir oluşturuyor haritaya göre.
Karadenizde Çepniler yoğunlaşmış mesela. Senin baba tarafın yörük değil miydi? Ona sorsana ya da dedene onlar bilir aşiretin adını.

[Siberian Cold Breeze]

Benim merak ettiğim bu Oğuz konfederasyonu nasıl oluştu..Mesela bazı boylardan sözediliyor Oğuzlara katıldı diye ..Başlangıçta sayıları 24 değildi bazı boylar sonradan Oğuzlara katılmış.Bu nasıl gerçekleşiyor ,niye bazı boylar Oğuz'lara katılıyor.Bu bir çeşit anlaşma ile mi oluyor.

[Pecheneg]

Benim merak ettiğim bu Oğuz konfederasyonu nasıl oluştu..Mesela bazı boylardan sözediliyor Oğuzlara katıldı diye ..Başlangıçta sayıları 24 değildi bazı boylar sonradan Oğuzlara katılmış.Bu nasıl gerçekleşiyor ,niye bazı boylar Oğuz'lara katılıyor.Bu bir çeşit anlaşma ile mi oluyor.
Peçeneklere böyle diyorlar mesela. Oğuzlar Peçenekleri yendikden sonra Peçeneklerin bazı oymakları Oğuzlara katılmış ve Oğuzların 24 boyundan biri olan Peçenek boyunu oluşturmuş. Kalanları da zaten Karadeniz'in kuzeyinden Balkanlara geçmiş.

Aynı şekilde Kırım'ın 7 boyundan (yedisan/cetsan) birisinin adı Kıpçak. (Şırın Barın Kıpçak Argın Mangıt Katay Alçın). Muhtemelen Altınordu zamanında Nogay Tatarlarına katılan Kıpçaklar oluşturmuş bu boyu.


http://www.anadoluasiretleri.com/Page.php?pid=26
Yine birçok farklı boy ve aşiretin bir araya gelmesiyle orta anadolu'dan doğu anadolu'ya kadar yayılmış Boz Ulus Türkmenleri oluşmuş.
hane sayısı 35.226, yani kabaca 150-200 bin kişi.
http://i48.tinypic.com/e88fw3.png


Uluyörük var bu Boz Ulustan da büyük bir grup.
Hane sayısı 41.000
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Daha da kalabalıkları İçel(Mersin) Türkmenleri
68.000 hane
http://i46.tinypic.com/2eusya9.png

(tabi bunlar 16.-17. yüzyıllarda günümüzde değil)




Ama nasıl anlaşıp nasıl birlik kurmuşlar bilmiyorum. :D

[Onur]

Benim merak ettiğim bu Oğuz konfederasyonu nasıl oluştu..Mesela bazı boylardan sözediliyor Oğuzlara katıldı diye ..Başlangıçta sayıları 24 değildi bazı boylar sonradan Oğuzlara katılmış.Bu nasıl gerçekleşiyor ,niye bazı boylar Oğuz'lara katılıyor.Bu bir çeşit anlaşma ile mi oluyor.
Bunlar tarihin karanlık tarafları ama neden olduğunu tahmin etmek zor değil. Biliyorsun zorluklar insanları birleştirir, eğer işler rahatsa bu seferde insanlar daha küçük gruplara bölünür, bireyselleşir, birbirinden uzaklaşırlar.

Muhtemelen bir savaş tehditine karşı korunmak ya da başka bir zengin bölgeyi ele geçirebilmek için güç birliği oluşturma arzusudur. Belki bu sebeble iki farkı boyun arasında yapılan evliliklerde katılmalar sağlamış olabilir.

[Hudayar]

I don't know my own tribe sadly. I'm from Tokat.

[Hudayar]

Also Avshar is the biggest tribe in Turkey :D And they're numerous in Tokat. Maybe i'm Avshar? Nader Shah would be proud

https://camo.derpicdn.net/110834a376c409b69c3f7097bad356325a3547af?url=http% 3A%2F%2Firanpoliticsclub.net%2Fphotos%2FU18-Afsharid%2Fimages%2FNader%2520Shah%2520the%2520Gre at%2520of%2520Afsharid%2520Dynasty%2520of%2520Iran %252018%2520AD.jpg

[Hudayar]

Varsak rulez :D




btw, nomadic/Yörük Turks of Balkans and their locations
http://i45.tinypic.com/29zrjpw.jpg

Didn't know there were Yörüks in Istanbul :D

[Hudayar]

I think i've learned my own tribe

in Tokat, Almus (where both of my parents were born), there's only one tribe and it's Kınık according to these sources http://anadoluturkmenleri.com/kinik-boyu/ and http://anadoluturkmenleri.com/tokat-turkmenleri/. Seljuk Empire (both Anatolian Seljuks and Great Seljuk) was founded by the Kınık tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%B1n%C4%B1k_(tribe). There's even a village called "Kınık" but they're not from there. I'm obviously not 100% sure but i'm probably Kınık because there's no other tribe.

Always liked Seljuks :D
https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.337028071.9750/flat,800x800,075,f.u1.jpg

[Fedora]

I think i've learned my own tribe

in Tokat, Almus (where both of my parents were born), there's only one tribe and it's Kınık according to these sources http://anadoluturkmenleri.com/kinik-boyu/ and http://anadoluturkmenleri.com/tokat-turkmenleri/. Seljuk Empire (both Anatolian Seljuks and Great Seljuk) was founded by the Kınık tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%B1n%C4%B1k_(tribe). There's even a village called "Kınık" but they're not from there. I'm obviously not 100% sure but i'm probably Kınık because there's no other tribe.

Always liked Seljuks :D
https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.337028071.9750/flat,800x800,075,f.u1.jpg

Where do these guys get those informations though? Were they recorded by the Ottomans? There areno tribal people where I'm from

[Hudayar]

Where do these guys get those informations though? Were they recorded by the Ottomans? There areno tribal people where I'm from

In the Ottoman tax archives every nomadic tribe was recorded for tax reasons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc3jqZdE6O0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsNE-d4GDk