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Chip Huntington
12-27-2012, 06:56 PM
Firstly, let us speak of the nature and purpose of sex.

The immediate answer to the question of what is the purpose of sex would be procreation - to continue the species. Of course, this would be correct, and it is why sex is an immensely pleasurable experience for both men and women - to encourage procreation. However, the idea that homosexuality is ‘wrong’ because homosexuals don’t or can’t procreate is unsound – not to mention for the reason that homosexuals possess the right ‘equipment’ necessary for procreation – but since they only make up a small percentage of the population, there is no danger of the species becoming extinct due to homosexuality. Furthermore, almost everyone possesses a libido, and for some it is incredibly powerful and consuming that it is satisfied. Some even say that sexual energy is the greatest driving force of humans. The clitoris of a woman is an organ there solely for pleasure via sexual stimulation. For humans, either by design of God or nature, sex must also be for pleasure as well as procreation.

The male and female anatonomy are complimentary, the erectile tissue and the glans of the male penis serves the same function as the female clitoris - they are equivalent organs. The pleasurable aspect of sex is down to the stimulation of these organs. It cannot be true that sex is pleasurable purely for the sake of procreation since not all sexual pleasure is derived from penetration. Mutual masturbation and oral sex is common between couples, both heterosexual and homosexual, for instance.

Procreation in humans happens in such a way that pleasure is given to both man and woman through the genital stimulation that occurs as a consequence from penetration - the actual act of penetration is incidental to the pleasure recieved. By the nature of the sperm and of our reproductive systems, penetrative sex is necessary for procreation - semen cannot be ejaculated and later placed inside the woman. Natural impregnation necessitates ejaculation into the woman from the man via penetration thereby both the man and the woman recieve incidental pleasure.

Both man and woman are therefore designed anatonomically and biologically to have sex for pleasure. That the pleasures of sex derive from genital stimulation and not necessarily vaginal penetration alone, means that there is nothing unnatural about homosexual relations per se. Homosexual acts are, therefore, as pleasurable and as biologically and anatomically valid as heterosexual acts.

However, the anus is not a genital organ. The anus is not a vagina. Anal sex has been outlawed and condemned throughout history since it is a psuedo-sexual act as the anus is used as a proxy-vagina. It is also passive and effeminate, it makes one man a 'bitch' - a pseudo-woman. Homosexuals who engage in anal sex are actually engaging in a form of psuedo-heterosex. Gays have made it the common conception that to be gay you must have anal sex - this is wrong and confusing - many homosexuals don't like anal sex and won't go near it.

Anal sex was outlawed because it debases masculinity, the preferred method of same-sex love in Greece (and other cultures) was to rub penises together and, whilst facing each other, rubbing the penis in the inner thighs - frottage or frot. Homosexual acts in nature and other animals are well recorded, but they are most commonly a form of frot, NOT anal sex.

Homosexuality does not feminize men – the opposite is the case. Homosexuality is about the love of manliness and masculinity; it is only love for the feminine that can feminize men. Who is the most masculine, but a man who by virtue of his love of manliness – also loves the soul and beauty of men?

A mutual love of manliness can join men as warriors in a sacred bond of love and friendship, and of ultra-masculinity, and of unity and equality that only lovers may share, this being necessary for an efficient and strong-willed military unit – a brotherhood of masculinity with a warrior’s creed and with high morale like the Sacred Band of Thebes, or even Ernst Röhm's Sturmabteilung. Their fighting and warrior spirit is emphasised through their mutual love and friendship that also inspires courage and bravery of the warrior ethos. Lovers who fight by each other’s side will most brilliantly serve their nation and race as they would surely fight and die for their beloved as they share such a unique and strong lifelong bond.

Moreover, that sex is merely for procreation is a purely a materialistic view that also neglects the importance of culture in human societies. Since they are not restrained by the same demands of procreation and family pressures that heterosexuals are, they are more able to devote themselves to pursuing intelligence, art and culture. One can make note of many geniuses that never begat children or ‘bothered’ with family life, and the many great artists who were or have been reputed to have been homosexual or bisexual such as: Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, Jean-Baptiste Lully, Beethoven, Chopin, Lord Byron, Oscar Wilde, Marcel Proust and so on. Homosexuals whilst a small group of any population have greatly shaped all great cultures and civilizations. Same-sex lovers are more inclined to art, culture and genius.

Both genius and homosexuality are produced only in small numbers in any population, and homosexuals/bisexuals are freer to develop their genius and propagate culture – whereas purely heterosexuals propagate the race. Love should be viewed in a more transcendent way, an appreciation of beauty in a more abstract way with no problems if the source of the beauty is from the male or the female – love without obligation of the material, but also without fear of the material.

Leon_C
12-27-2012, 07:33 PM
I think male homosexuals are superior, not so much females as women are of more value to reproduction than men as one man can impregnate many women but only one woman can be impregnated by one man every 9 months. Female homosexuality puts the continuation of a species at greater risk than male homosexuality.

Fortis in Arduis
12-27-2012, 07:47 PM
I think male homosexuals are superior, not so much females as women are of more value to reproduction than men as one man can impregnate many women but only one woman can be impregnated by one man every 9 months. Female homosexuality puts the continuation of a species at greater risk than male homosexuality.

Yes, but lesbians can still rear children, and can be excellent mothers.

Not that I would think of them as superior; anyone can drive a tractor and wear dungarees. j/k

Virtuous
12-27-2012, 07:48 PM
White, Catholic, Hetero, Dumb, Shaved and Proud.

1stLightHorse
05-13-2013, 03:05 AM
Firstly, let us speak of the nature and purpose of sex.

The immediate answer to the question of what is the purpose of sex would be procreation - to continue the species. Of course, this would be correct, and it is why sex is an immensely pleasurable experience for both men and women - to encourage procreation. However, the idea that homosexuality is ‘wrong’ because homosexuals don’t or can’t procreate is unsound – not to mention for the reason that homosexuals possess the right ‘equipment’ necessary for procreation – but since they only make up a small percentage of the population, there is no danger of the species becoming extinct due to homosexuality. Furthermore, almost everyone possesses a libido, and for some it is incredibly powerful and consuming that it is satisfied. Some even say that sexual energy is the greatest driving force of humans. The clitoris of a woman is an organ there solely for pleasure via sexual stimulation. For humans, either by design of God or nature, sex must also be for pleasure as well as procreation.

The male and female anatonomy are complimentary, the erectile tissue and the glans of the male penis serves the same function as the female clitoris - they are equivalent organs. The pleasurable aspect of sex is down to the stimulation of these organs. It cannot be true that sex is pleasurable purely for the sake of procreation since not all sexual pleasure is derived from penetration. Mutual masturbation and oral sex is common between couples, both heterosexual and homosexual, for instance.

Procreation in humans happens in such a way that pleasure is given to both man and woman through the genital stimulation that occurs as a consequence from penetration - the actual act of penetration is incidental to the pleasure recieved. By the nature of the sperm and of our reproductive systems, penetrative sex is necessary for procreation - semen cannot be ejaculated and later placed inside the woman. Natural impregnation necessitates ejaculation into the woman from the man via penetration thereby both the man and the woman recieve incidental pleasure.

Both man and woman are therefore designed anatonomically and biologically to have sex for pleasure. That the pleasures of sex derive from genital stimulation and not necessarily vaginal penetration alone, means that there is nothing unnatural about homosexual relations per se. Homosexual acts are, therefore, as pleasurable and as biologically and anatomically valid as heterosexual acts.

However, the anus is not a genital organ. The anus is not a vagina. Anal sex has been outlawed and condemned throughout history since it is a psuedo-sexual act as the anus is used as a proxy-vagina. It is also passive and effeminate, it makes one man a 'bitch' - a pseudo-woman. Homosexuals who engage in anal sex are actually engaging in a form of psuedo-heterosex. Gays have made it the common conception that to be gay you must have anal sex - this is wrong and confusing - many homosexuals don't like anal sex and won't go near it.

Anal sex was outlawed because it debases masculinity, the preferred method of same-sex love in Greece (and other cultures) was to rub penises together and, whilst facing each other, rubbing the penis in the inner thighs - frottage or frot. Homosexual acts in nature and other animals are well recorded, but they are most commonly a form of frot, NOT anal sex.

Homosexuality does not feminize men – the opposite is the case. Homosexuality is about the love of manliness and masculinity; it is only love for the feminine that can feminize men. Who is the most masculine, but a man who by virtue of his love of manliness – also loves the soul and beauty of men?

A mutual love of manliness can join men as warriors in a sacred bond of love and friendship, and of ultra-masculinity, and of unity and equality that only lovers may share, this being necessary for an efficient and strong-willed military unit – a brotherhood of masculinity with a warrior’s creed and with high morale like the Sacred Band of Thebes, or even Ernst Röhm's Sturmabteilung. Their fighting and warrior spirit is emphasised through their mutual love and friendship that also inspires courage and bravery of the warrior ethos. Lovers who fight by each other’s side will most brilliantly serve their nation and race as they would surely fight and die for their beloved as they share such a unique and strong lifelong bond.

Moreover, that sex is merely for procreation is a purely a materialistic view that also neglects the importance of culture in human societies. Since they are not restrained by the same demands of procreation and family pressures that heterosexuals are, they are more able to devote themselves to pursuing intelligence, art and culture. One can make note of many geniuses that never begat children or ‘bothered’ with family life, and the many great artists who were or have been reputed to have been homosexual or bisexual such as: Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, Jean-Baptiste Lully, Beethoven, Chopin, Lord Byron, Oscar Wilde, Marcel Proust and so on. Homosexuals whilst a small group of any population have greatly shaped all great cultures and civilizations. Same-sex lovers are more inclined to art, culture and genius.

Both genius and homosexuality are produced only in small numbers in any population, and homosexuals/bisexuals are freer to develop their genius and propagate culture – whereas purely heterosexuals propagate the race. Love should be viewed in a more transcendent way, an appreciation of beauty in a more abstract way with no problems if the source of the beauty is from the male or the female – love without obligation of the material, but also without fear of the material.

Exactly, this was a huge learning curve when i found this out.

A lot of homosexuals in fact (i have come to realise) are almost asexual in their habits and value the bonding and emotional process that occurs with other men. Two men are capable of reaching higher levels of bonding than male/female, because the male gender is more physical. For example, if i want to go running 20 kilometres, or do some powerlifting or even some sparring, not many women are capable of doing this. Men can 'hang' with each other so to speak and it creates a new level of aesthetic bonding only possible between men.

The male mind works in a way that is compatible with other men. When testosterone combines into energy and action, it is complemented by more testosterone (other men) which results in greater ideas and even further action. The effects of an estrogenic personality in this mix, tends to hamper progress in activity.

Kastrioti1443
05-13-2013, 03:08 AM
lool

Aredhel
05-13-2013, 03:12 AM
Some Greek philosophers as Plato believed that the love between two men was the purest form of love that it could be found. In Ancient Greece male homosexuality was approved since females just were useful to procreate, even some personalities like Alexander the Great had some male lovers.

alfieb
05-13-2013, 03:15 AM
Some Greek philosophers as Plato believed that the love between two men was the purest form of love that it could be found. In Ancient Greece male homosexuality was approved since females just were useful to procreate, even some personalities like Alexander the Great had some male lovers.

He also had a wives and a son.

Homosexuality as we know it today did not exist in Ancient Greece. While there were certainly same-sex relationships, there was no concept of just being gay.

Anglojew
05-13-2013, 07:53 AM
No, they're a flamboyant and creative evolutionary dead-end. They might serve a certain evolutionary function though as they seem to be generally more intelligent, energetic and productive than he average breeder.