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Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 07:57 PM
http://www.amnesty.org.tr/userfiles/image/odtu_erdogan_protesto-manset.jpg


As Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan visited Middle Eastern Technical University (METU) on 18 December 2012 for the launch ceremony of the Göktürk 2 satellite at a space technology research institute, hundreds of METU students gathered in the campus center to protest the ceremony.

Prior to Erdogan's arrival, approximately 3,000 police officers and eight armoured vehicles were deployed to the campus.

"The police were casting teargas canisters at students every 30 seconds. They were even harshly attacking as the students were retreating. The police might be seeking revenge for previous student protests," METU Professor Ferdan Ergut told BIANET. "Professors gathered on the steps of the University President's Office until the police left the campus at 7:30 p.m."

While several students were reported injured by the teargas, the exact number has yet to be announced.

According to CNN Türk, the teargas smoke spread to areas of the campus area where classes are held, and dozens of students were photographed vomiting and fainting.

"We recommend all students who have been subjected to police brutality tonight to visit our office for alternative medical reports to file a lawsuit," the Human Rights Foundation of Turkey announced on Facebook.

According to information gleaned in part from sendika.org and muhalefet.org, anti-terror police teams subsequently raided several apartments on the morning of 21 December, detaining students who protested the prime minister's visit to the university.

The authorities have said the detained students have been charged with assaulting police officers and violations of protest and gathering regulations. The police raid was executed according to Article 10 of Turkey's Anti-Terror Act by order of Chief Prosecutor Sadik Bayindir, who previously prosecuted faculty of medicine students on terrorism charges.

Student groups around Turkey have raised their voices against the police brutality at METU via solidarity protests in which the police, once again, intervened.

In Adana province, many student groups were subjected to police brutality with plastic bullets and teargas, leaving dozens wounded. In Mersin province, university students gathered on the steps of the university president's building to raise their voices.

In Eskisehir province, police put up barricades and threw teargas canisters at hundreds of protestors near the Anadolu University entrance. Students who managed to reach the university building were reportedly assaulted by private security staff and their demands to meet the university president were rejected.

Similar protests occurred at university campuses in Izmir, Trabzon and Kocaeli.

Look at Erdogan who labelled Assad and Gaddafi as a dictator, but he can't even enter a university without 3,000 heavy armoured polices and vehicles as he is afraid of his own people. Your end is close, fascist American dog!

Obama should have been there as well along with his puppet and listened to the thousands shouting as " Yankee go home! "

Now, one of my biggest regrets in my life was not being able to be there... It was the greatest and most effective youth protest ever after '50s-60s against a government!

Sky earth
12-27-2012, 08:08 PM
Hopefully the Turks won't vote for Erdogan in the next election in Turkey. His foreign policy fails so heavy that it's unbelievable. He is just disgusting with his islamist and backward attitudes. Turkey needs a president like Atatürk but not the fascist Erdogan.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 08:11 PM
Hopefully the Turks won't vote for Erdogan in the next election in Turkey. His foreign policy fails so heavy that it's unbelievable. He is just disgusting with his islamist and backward attitudes. Turkey needs a president like Atatürk but not the fascist Erdogan.

I don't know about the people but the fact is %70 of the youth hate him. The credibility of the election results are questionable anyway; the only path is popular revolution!

Partizan
12-27-2012, 08:11 PM
I am not pro-Erdogan but separatist "Bianet" reporting it and protesters being marginal leftists(place PKK sympathizers) sound fishy to me.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 08:14 PM
I am not pro-Erdogan but separatist "Bianet" reporting it and protesters being marginal leftists(place PKK sympathizers) sound fishy to me.

You sound like a typical ülkücü MHP guy now. And what do you mean by "marginal leftist" ? do you consider yourself as a leftist in the first place with your pan-türkist views ?

Oh, no wonder even Hitler classified himself as a socialist.

Partizan
12-27-2012, 08:31 PM
You sound like a typical ülkücü MHP guy now.

Just common sense.


And what do you mean by "marginal leftist" ?

DHKP-C, TİKKO and such stuff. Which are harmful and radical.


do you consider yourself as a leftist in the first place with your pan-türkist views ?

I am:

Economically Socialist
Aware of class fight
Dialectic Materialist

BUT, I am nationalist about both domestic and foreign affairs. Or rather to say that, I am a Nationalist with some Socialist methodology. Because only Socialism can fit Nationalism economically and socially.


Oh, no wonder even Hitler classified himself as a socialist.

His "National Socialism" was some sort of Corporatism actually, next!

Onur
12-27-2012, 08:33 PM
There shouldn't be any distinction or separation when it comes to protest against AKP and their policies. Whether revolutionist leftists, rightists or whatever, everyone must be united against AKP, Gulen movement and their tentacles in judiciary, police force and all other positions otherwise they will keep settling into all the important positions and never leave.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 08:34 PM
http://haber.sol.org.tr/sites/default/files/fotograf/odtu-erdogan-eylem.jpg

Science-selling imperialist warmongerer tayyip, GET OUT OF ODTÜ!

Partizan
12-27-2012, 08:36 PM
There shouldn't be any distinction or separation when it comes to protest against AKP and their policies. Whether revolutionist leftists, rightists or whatever, everyone must be united against AKP, Gulen movement and their tentacles in judiciary, police force and all other positions otherwise they will keep settling into all the important positions and never leave.

Gulen Movement is actually against AKP too, do not you check Zaman? Many writers in it started to criticize AKP.

I guess, the important one is doing right one for country. If Kurdish fascists complain about AKP for righteous KCK arrests, if Liberal/Separatist Taraf do the same, if ex-AKP supporter liboş lobby turned opposite to AKP, than there is something changing.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 08:39 PM
Just common sense.

Too bad you have something in common with those who murdered our youth waving American flags.


DHKP-C, TİKKO and such stuff. Which are harmful and radical.

Can you prove that any of those protesters had a connection to those organizations ? oh, it's not like the organizations you are affiliated with are not harmful to the peace and unity of our society anyway, with their racist ethnic-targeting and pro-coup slogans in order to manipulate the protests organized by real leftist organizations.


I am:

Economically Socialist
Aware of class fight
Dialectic Materialist

BUT, I am nationalist about both domestic and foreign affairs. Or rather to say that, I am a Nationalist with some Socialist methodology. Because only Socialism can fit Nationalism economically and socially.

So, you seem to follow national socialism, a made up ideology-thing of Hitler.

Cannabis Sativa
12-27-2012, 08:46 PM
ODTÜ-the devil's den is just an exception but nothing else. I hope Erdoğan destroys that fuckin piece of shit place which is no longer a university but mostly a far-left shithole at its best. ODTÜ must turn into a real university which can compete in region-wide. Most private universities are far better than ODTÜ in many cases. I can even support privatization of such universities. The only thing that can make them better is kicking ultra left antique bastard professors from university and recruit new ones.

Onur
12-27-2012, 08:50 PM
Gulen Movement is actually against AKP too, do not you check Zaman? Many writers in it started to criticize AKP.
No, they are not. It`s just some AKP people thinks like Gulenists are controlling more power than they should have had, thats it. So it`s just a competition over who will get the biggest slice from the cake.

They are totally dependent to each other, so this binds them forever.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 08:50 PM
ODTÜ-the devil's den is just an exception but nothing else. I hope Erdoğan destroys that fuckin piece of shit place which is no longer a university but mostly a far-left shithole at its best. ODTÜ must turn into a real university which can compete in region-wide. Most private universities are far better than ODTÜ in many cases. I can even support privatization of such universities. The only thing that can make them better is kicking ultra left antique bastard professors from university and recruit new ones.

Then why don't you go there and try to make them ? it's easy to talk sitting on your ass. Don't worry, considering that they didn't even let your dear prime minister walk into their university, they would surely put you in your place as well.

ODTÜ is now more than a university, it's the headquarters of the youth resistance against AKP, America and their fascist collaborators just like you. We all saw how Erdogan was trembling with fear and trying to protect himself with 3,000 heavily armed police, how desperate :D

Partizan
12-27-2012, 08:57 PM
Too bad you have something in common with those who murdered our youth waving American flags.

It is in the past, I have many "ülkücü" friends from university who know I am a leftist but "not like the ones they know.". BTW PKK supporter traitors organized sitting strike for terrorists in so-called hunger strike and none of pseudo-Kemalist/TGB guys did something. Ülkücüs created a counter-demonstration, I don't agree with those guys about everything but they are more patriotic than so-called Kemalists of us(ADD/TGB/new CHP...)


Can you prove that any of those protesters had a connection to those organizations ?

http://www.f5haber.com/haberdar/odtu-lu-elebaslari-bakin-kimler-haberi-3558092/

One of the rare times I agree with Erdogan.


oh, it's not like the organizations you are affiliated with are not harmful to the peace and unity of our society anyway, with their racist ethnic-targeting and pro-coup slogans in order to manipulate the protests organized by real leftist organizations.

Ehem, Gökçe Fırat answered those wrong accusations on us:

http://www.turksolu.org/43/perincek43.htm

http://www.turksolu.org/383/basyazi383.htm (actually your anti-propaganda about TürkSolu harms the arrested professors, along with us)



So, you seem to follow national socialism, a made up ideology-thing of Hitler.

Nope. National Socialism= Corporatism I am no way a Corporatist, I support Socialist method.

Hayalet
12-27-2012, 09:00 PM
If the PM can't tolerate protests, he should just stay away from universities. And ODTÜ is usually either the best or the second best Turkish university in international rankings.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 09:07 PM
Once again you so-called leftists eventually siding with Erdogan at some issue confirms that we are on the true path. Can anybody show me if this TürkSolu or those nazi-inspired organizations had the smallest contribution to the resistance against AKP ? where were they when CHP, TGB and IP were breaking down the barricades and being hit by pepper spray ? it's not like they suffered from government brutality at all, as they do not constitute a serious threat to them.

We are on the true path; because we are the targets of counter-revolutionary Ataturk-hater government, not them. Even this alone is enough to ratify this fact.

Cannabis Sativa
12-27-2012, 09:23 PM
Then why don't you go there and try to make them ? it's easy to talk sitting on your ass. Don't worry, considering that they didn't even let your dear prime minister walk into their university, they would surely put you in your place as well.

ODTÜ is now more than a university, it's the headquarters of the youth resistance against AKP, America and their fascist collaborators just like you. We all saw how Erdogan was trembling with fear and trying to protect himself with 3,000 heavily armed police, how desperate :D

As far as i support police brutality against commies in ODTÜ, i do not need to do something. And Erdoğan will make something better. Now he has all the power, i can foresee in a near future that craphole will be privatized and will be a real university and not some hippie bastards' playground. Not to mention ODTÜ is the best place where i can find left hand prostitute girls. :thumb001:

ODTÜ cannot even be top 250 universities in the world, because they do anything except education. They do not educate people but brainwash ignorant kids with their leftard fractions inside. Privatization of ODTÜ will be better in most aspects. 5000 TL annually per student can relatively decrease the government budget being wasted on some kurd or leftist shit. Best thing is only Turks with money will attend that university anyway. And guess what When your elitist suckers are behind the bars you will not do anything.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 09:30 PM
As far as i support police brutality against commies in ODTÜ, i do not need to do something. And Erdoğan will make something better. Now he has all the power, i can foresee in a near future that craphole will be privatized and will be a real university and not some hippie bastards' playground. Not to mention ODTÜ is the best place where i can find left hand prostitute girls. :thumb001:

ODTÜ cannot even be top 250 universities in the world, because they do anything except education. They do not educate people but brainwash ignorant kids with their leftard fractions inside. Privatization of ODTÜ will be better in most aspects. 5000 TL annually per student can relatively decrease the government budget being wasted on some kurd or leftist shit. Best thing is only Turks with money will attend that university anyway. And guess what When your elitist suckers are behind the bars you will not do anything.

You are pathethic. People like you are never respected anywhere, because they always recline upon the powerful authority. It doesn't matter how much of police brutality we face, or whether we perish in prisons or not, at least; we have ideals to fight for to the end, and if necessary die for. You, and people like you don't. That's what makes you worthless parasites.

Partizan
12-27-2012, 09:35 PM
Once again you so-called leftists eventually siding with Erdogan at some issue confirms that we are on the true path.

Well, for us there is no "personal hate" for a special politician. Our politics are based on benefits of Turkey and whole Turk nation.


Can anybody show me if this TürkSolu or those nazi-inspired organizations had the smallest contribution to the resistance against AKP ?

http://www.internethaber.com/said-i-nursi-filmine-protesto-319178h.htm

Well, in its Gala, one of my friends(Who I sold some newspapers and books together with her yesterday) shouted those slogans you read in article ONLY WITH ONE PERSON ELSE. Can you do it in a saloon fulled with Nurcus?

BTW, more important one is, Kurdish separatists hate us as hell:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.208405552562977.50852.155679444502255&type=1&comment_id=1935981&offset=0&total_comments=7 (Sırrı Süreyya's personal page)

Osman Baydemir:

https://www.facebook.com/baydemir/posts/453025491409886

From Özgür Gündem:

http://www.ozgur-gundem.com/index.php?haberID=23127&haberBaslik=T%C3%BCrksolu%20de%C4%9Fil%20T%C3%BCrk %20fa%C5%9Fisti!&categoryID=2&action=haber_detay&module=nuce

However, Aydınlık does not even mention PKK as terrorists. We know your past:

http://www.turksolu.org/162/foto/aponun-tampona-cevabi.jpg

http://www.turksolu.org/162/foto/apo-turkiyle-halki.jpg

http://www.turksolu.org/162/foto/apo-kurtluk-aski-yok.jpg

http://www.turksolu.org/162/foto/aponun-bahar-politikalari.jpg

Even in one of his books which is still published in Kaynak Yayınları, Perinçek claims Atatürk promised for "autonomy" to Kurds, it is biggest lie of Kurdish fascists/pseudo-Socialists and liboş team.


where were they when CHP, TGB and IP were breaking down the barricades and being hit by pepper spray ? it's not like they suffered from government brutality at all, as they do not constitute a serious threat to them.

We were not empty either:

tWP1N6G8kEo

We were not going to join pro-PKK Perinçek's manipulative rally, of course.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 09:38 PM
I don't really care about so-called leftists and kemalists accusing the protesters of anarchism and terrorism just because they threw stones on the polices (which is justified, considering the fact that police is already corrupt who beat people to death for fun). In fact; it's the mission that was given to the Turkish youth by Ataturk.

The Turkish Youth are the owner and guardian of the Reforms and the Republic. They are convinced to the necessity and correctness of these, more than anyone else. They have assimilated the Reforms and the form of the government. The instant they notice a slightest or greatest quirk, or an attitude, which would weaken those, they will not say:
“This country has its police, its gendarme, its justice organization”
With their hands, stones, sticks and arms, whatever available, they will defend their own creation.
The police will come, ignore the actual criminals, capture them as the guilty.
They will think that
“The police is not yet the police of the reforms and the republic”

but will never ask for mercy. The courts will prosecute them. They will think again:
“So, the justice organization needs to be improved, re-structured suitable to fit the regime”

they will think.
They will be jailed. Although they will appeal by way of legal means, they will not bombard the premier and the congress with telegrams, asking for their mercy to be released, to have preferential treatment for having been innocent and not guilty.
They will say:
“I did the necessities of my beliefs and convictions. I am right in my interference and action. If I have ended up here unfairly, it is my responsibility to correct the causes and influences, which resulted in this injustice."

This is my understanding of the Turkish Young and the Turkish Youth.

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

Don't worry forefather, we will never give up following your path!

Lathander
12-27-2012, 09:39 PM
It doesn't matter how much of police brutality we face, or whether we perish in prisons or not, at least; we have ideals to fight for to the end, and if necessary die for.

Well,actually you don't.Some communists claimed themselves Kemalist to look more patriotic and take more votes.They indoctrinated many idiots and you are one of these idiots.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 09:46 PM
Well,actually you don't.Some communists claimed themselves Kemalist to look more patriotic and take more votes.They indoctrinated many idiots and you are one of these idiots.

Communists ? I'm not a communist. Nor my movement ever claimed to be communist.

And no, we don't need the votes and the support of right-wing fascists. Our support mainly comes from the '60s socialist generation.

Cannabis Sativa
12-27-2012, 09:46 PM
You are pathethic. People like you are never respected anywhere, because they always recline upon the powerful authority. It doesn't matter how much of police brutality we face, or whether we perish in prisons or not, at least; we have ideals to fight for to the end, and if necessary die for. You, and people like you don't. That's what makes you worthless parasites.

:( You broke my heart, leftist girls from your hometown find me extremely hot since they get free beer in turn of free pussy. Well, just to remind you; if those worthless parasites doesn't pay their taxmoney, you cannot get any scholarship or something else from universities or YÖK(In other words, leeching government funds with passion while biting the hands feeding you). Let me tell you your ideals; luring the country into funny dictatorships proud of their starvin' Marvins. Path to North Korea lol. :D

Partizan
12-27-2012, 09:49 PM
I don't really care about so-called leftists and kemalists accusing the protesters of anarchism and terrorism just because they threw stones on the polices (which is justified, considering the fact that police is already corrupt who beat people to death for fun). In fact; it's the mission that was given to the Turkish youth by Ataturk.

The Turkish Youth are the owner and guardian of the Reforms and the Republic. They are convinced to the necessity and correctness of these, more than anyone else. They have assimilated the Reforms and the form of the government. The instant they notice a slightest or greatest quirk, or an attitude, which would weaken those, they will not say:
“This country has its police, its gendarme, its justice organization”
With their hands, stones, sticks and arms, whatever available, they will defend their own creation.
The police will come, ignore the actual criminals, capture them as the guilty.
They will think that
“The police is not yet the police of the reforms and the republic”

but will never ask for mercy. The courts will prosecute them. They will think again:
“So, the justice organization needs to be improved, re-structured suitable to fit the regime”

they will think.
They will be jailed. Although they will appeal by way of legal means, they will not bombard the premier and the congress with telegrams, asking for their mercy to be released, to have preferential treatment for having been innocent and not guilty.
They will say:
“I did the necessities of my beliefs and convictions. I am right in my interference and action. If I have ended up here unfairly, it is my responsibility to correct the causes and influences, which resulted in this injustice."

This is my understanding of the Turkish Young and the Turkish Youth.

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

Don't worry forefather, we will never give up following your path!

Atatürk said it to Turkish Youth, not to those guys who have no respect for his Language Revolution:

http://blog.penajans.com/wp-content/uploads/546648_444905902187178_134409553_n-300x200.jpg

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 09:51 PM
:( You broke my heart, leftist girls from your hometown find me extremely hot since they get free beer in turn of free pussy. Well, just to remind you; if those worthless parasites doesn't pay their taxmoney, you cannot get any scholarship or something else from universities or YÖK(In other words, leeching government funds with passion while biting the hands feeding you). Let me tell you your ideals; luring the country into funny dictatorships proud of their starvin' Marvins. Path to North Korea lol. :D

Your always specifically attacking women's honour indicates how disgusting perverted you are.

ah bir de karşıma çıkıp kadınların namusuna laf atmaya çalışsan

Lathander
12-27-2012, 09:57 PM
Communists ? I'm not a communist. Nor my movement ever claimed to be communist.


That is the problem.You are psuedo-communists but claim to be Kemalist.


And no, we don't need the votes and the support of right-wing fascists. Our support mainly comes from the '60s socialist generation.

They joined the PKK or became liberal as far as I know.

Lathander
12-27-2012, 10:00 PM
Your always specifically attacking women's honour indicates how disgusting perverted you are.

ah bir de karşıma çıkıp kadınların namusuna laf atmaya çalışsan

biji serok devrimin,şehid namırın.

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 10:00 PM
biji serok devrimin,şehid namırın.

hadi işine dürzü

Cannabis Sativa
12-27-2012, 10:02 PM
Your always specifically attacking women's honour indicates how disgusting perverted you are.

ah bir de karşıma çıkıp kadınların namusuna laf atmaya çalışsan

I am not guilty because Tunceli girls are that horny. Onlarla ne minder güreşi tuttum ben okulda bir bilsen. :p

Kemalisté
12-27-2012, 10:04 PM
I am not guilty because Tunceli girls are that horny. Onlarla ne minder güreşi tuttum ben okulda bir bilsen. :p

Dikkat et Dersim'e yolun düşmesin de orada sana başka bir şey tutturmasınlar.