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Útrám
12-29-2012, 12:09 PM
http://www.eutimes.net/2012/12/french-government-cuts-immigrants-welfare-by-83/


It seems that migration policies of a leading country in Europe, France, are seriously changing. The country is no longer able to hold back the crowd of migrants, many of whom do not want to integrate into the social and economic life of their new home country. The upcoming radical changes for migrants were announced by French Interior Minister Manuel Valls.
After a meeting on the National Immigration and Integration, French Interior Minister Manuel Valls announced significant changes in the country’s migration policy. The government will reduce financial assistance to immigrants, and this reduction will be substantial. Starting March 1 of next year, French immigrant benefits will be reduced by 83 percent. The amount of compensation to immigrants who voluntarily want to return home will be also reduced. If earlier the government paid 300 euros for every adult and 100 euros for every minor, in March of 2013 these amounts will be reduced to 50 and 30 euros, respectively.
One of the main provisions of the new immigration rules in France is the reduction of unemployment benefits. New rules will directly affect many of the immigrants who do not want to be of real assistance to the country and whose main goal is the existence at the expense of French taxpayers. Now immigrants who are EU citizens receive an allowance of 2,000 euros per adult and 1,000 euros per child.
Under the new policy, according to Valls, the payments will be reduced to 500 and 200 euros, respectively. Manuel Valls said that the previous immigration policy did not lead to the desired effect, and the existing outreach programs for immigrants do not work as they were expected to, therefore, the rules must be changed. If this is not done, the costs for the maintenance of migrants now paid by the French Treasury will continue to devastate the economy of France that is already suffering from the crisis caused by international factors.
Earlier this year, during the election campaign in France, Nicolas Sarkozy, the then President, strongly advocated for the changes in migration policies in France. He stated that the delays could adversely affect the entire domestic policy of France. Francois Hollande, the current President of France and at that time the main opponent of Sarkozy, spoke on the subject more softly, avoiding naming any specific measures. Does this mean that life itself supports the statements of the eccentric ex-president of France?
According to the National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies, in the second half of 2010, France was home to over five million migrant workers, or about 8 percent of the total population. The largest number of migrants arriving in France, according to the data for 2007, was from Algeria, Morocco and Portugal. In 2011, French citizenship was granted to 66,000 people. It is getting increasingly more difficult for the government to provide financial assistance to migrants, given that many of them do not work or study. In fact, this is not surprising given the amount of aid that the government was ready to provide to its new citizens.
With a growing number of migrants, mainly from Muslim countries, France is experiencing many internal problems. They include rising unemployment and crime, and increasingly greater sums of money from the state treasury spent on support of migrants and their families, which has a detrimental effect on the economy. Finally, France is simply awash with the migrant population with an alien ideology, reluctant to accept European values ​​and often hostile.
Sooner or later, the government had to take measures. It seems that the time has come. On the wave of changes in French policy towards migrants, in 2007 Nicolas Sarkozy won presidential elections. Since his arrival to power, the government began to pursue a policy of the so-called selective migration, whose aim was to attract to France mainly skilled personnel. Under Sarkozy a quota system was introduced in the country that determined the number of required workers. In March of 2012, during the presidential campaign, Nicolas Sarkozy reiterated the importance of addressing domestic problems of migrants. Sarkozy, a son of an immigrant from Hungary, suggested cutting the amount of social assistance provided to migrants and reducing the number of issued residence permits by 50%. In addition, he threatened that France would leave the Schengen Treaty in order to prevent infiltration of unwanted migrants into the country.
Francois Hollande, the current president of France, was not that radical in his vision of the issues associated with migrants. He was not ready to control all categories of migrants, but in March of 2012 called for limiting migration for economic reasons. It looks like it is the economic conditions that are forcing the French authorities to toughen the policy towards migrants. This is indicated, in particular, by the disappointing data in the Global Competitiveness Report on the state of competitiveness of France, which the government discussed in November. According to the report, the competitiveness of the French industry is falling. In 2000, the share of industry in the economy of the country accounted for 18 percent, and now – 12.5 percent as companies are going bankrupt. In part, it is due to the heavy burden of social security contributions that businesses are required to make. French business payroll taxes are among the highest in the world at approximately 50 percent. It could not have been different because the country had to feed a large number of migrants.
In March of 2012 Sarkozy suggested reducing the number of migrants from 180 thousand to 100 thousand. A significant decrease in the number of migrants could be expected in five years. It seems that the government of Hollande has adopted such measures and is moving towards action.
A significant decrease in the amounts allocated for subsidies for migrants might be somewhat effective. The treasury will have more resources that can be allocated to job creation and overall economic recovery. There is a likelihood that the reduction in benefits will be an incentive for some workers to step up their job search.
There is another side to the coin. Many migrants, especially those from Arab countries-former colonies of France, are used to living on government subsidies. They have been doing it for years, and have been teaching their children this model of social behavior. According to the National Institute of Statistical Studies, children from immigrant families tend to be weaker students than their peers who are not immigrants. This is especially true for migrants from Turkey. In the labor market, only 14 percent of children of immigrants attain high social positions.
Reduction of benefits would hurt many migrant families. Will this provoke antisocial behavior where migrants would outpour their anger in the streets of French cities, destroying everything around them? Will the migrant riots of 2007 be repeated? There is an obvious need in new approaches towards migration policy. However, in their implementation the government should take into account various possible consequences. Only a balanced approach will lead to positive results.

Lithium
12-29-2012, 12:24 PM
That's great. I hope some of them will leave Europe.

Stefan
12-29-2012, 12:34 PM
One of the main provisions of the new immigration rules in France is the reduction of unemployment benefits. New rules will directly affect many of the immigrants who do not want to be of real assistance to the country and whose main goal is the existence at the expense of French taxpayers. Now immigrants who are EU citizens receive an allowance of 2,000 euros per adult and 1,000 euros per child.

I assume that 2,000 euros and 1,000 euros is per month. I am still baffled by the welfare states of Europe and the huge amounts of money given. I know that expenses are more in Europe, generally, but wow is that a lot of money given to these people who aren't working. In Pennsylvania a citizen (or legal immigrant) gets at most 275 Euros (364 dollars) in unemployment (cash) if they have three children and then 300 - 400 euros in food stamps, which can only be used on food. That's about fifteen times less than the numbers given here. And you can only be on unemployment for something like 6-8 months.

I guess the recession is good for something, though. :D

edit: Ah some U.S states are just as "generous." California gives $422 per week. Might have to do with the costs of living.

Virtuous
12-29-2012, 12:36 PM
Bravo, about fucking time.

sevruk
12-29-2012, 01:06 PM
Wake up France!

Laubach
12-29-2012, 05:19 PM
I assume that 2,000 euros and 1,000 euros is per month. I am still baffled by the welfare states of Europe and the huge amounts of money given. I know that expenses are more in Europe, generally, but wow is that a lot of money given to these people who aren't working. In Pennsylvania a citizen (or legal immigrant) gets at most 275 Euros (364 dollars) in unemployment (cash) if they have three children and then 300 - 400 euros in food stamps, which can only be used on food. That's about fifteen times less than the numbers given here. And you can only be on unemployment for something like 6-8 months.

I guess the recession is good for something, though. :D

edit: Ah some U.S states are just as "generous." California gives $422 per week. Might have to do with the costs of living.

I totally agree with you. But the scenario will be even worst for the immigrants

Hochmeister
12-29-2012, 05:50 PM
:thumb001:

Sikeliot
12-29-2012, 07:09 PM
Now the US and every other country needs to do the same.

Incal
12-30-2012, 05:29 AM
Good news.

arcticwolf
12-30-2012, 05:37 AM
About fucking time! :rolleyes:

eeroli
12-31-2012, 05:48 AM
No. This is bad. Now they are (not) coming to finland. Italy, Germany, England, Sweden and Spain are rich countries who need skilled workers, without them their economy will collapse. Poor finland, okay take em take em all you fuckers.

Útrám
12-31-2012, 02:52 PM
No. This is bad. Now they are (not) coming to finland. Italy, Germany, England, Sweden and Spain are rich countries who need skilled workers, without them their economy will collapse. Poor finland, okay take em take em all you fuckers.

I believe people should jump off the "blame the immigrant" bandwagon. You're barking up the wrong tree, the problem lies with immigration policies.

Linet
12-31-2012, 02:59 PM
Bravo France :thumbs:

eeroli
12-31-2012, 03:41 PM
Actually i was trying to be sarcastic. Sorry.

Graham
12-31-2012, 03:42 PM
Good old left, local people, Socialism.

MissProvocateur
12-31-2012, 03:49 PM
Excellent news! I hope other European nations wake up as well! :)

Day = made

Quorra
01-01-2013, 03:46 AM
The amount of compensation to immigrants who voluntarily want to return home will be also reduced.

Sorry to be cynical everyone but this is not great news.

Believe it or not Muslims can work and they will work if forced to. They aren't going to leave.

The west, to non-westerners is like a BMW car or designer clothes. It's a country upgrade and they will continue to come in the amount that France condones plus some more. How ever many France brings in a year, there is millions more who'd like to.

It's nice to force them off welfare, but it's not going to save France.

Lemon Kush
01-01-2013, 04:08 AM
It's good that this is happening. The welfare benefits in Western Europe and Canada have always been disproportionately higher than anywhere in the world and many immigrants take advantage of this and put the country further in debt.

Luigi Galleani
01-03-2013, 12:34 PM
Expect more rioting and burning of automobiles in the city of Paris or other French metropolitan areas by random "youth" in the streets?

More job security for French police officers and firefighters.

Útrám
01-04-2013, 12:37 AM
Expect more rioting and burning of automobiles in the city of Paris or other French metropolitan areas by random "youth" in the streets?


That's a probable possibility, but if it's handled accordingly then I don't foresee any significant problems.
During the civil unrest of 2005, the French authorities made the crucial mistake of underestimating the intensity of the riot, thus refusing to deploy its military.

The French armed forces are one of the most powerful militaries in the world, and could easily bring an end to some hoodlum riot. They could even send in the legionnaires and let their properly-configured Algerians own other Algerians. :cool:

In before outdated "The French are surrendering" jokes.

Graham
01-04-2013, 01:05 AM
When are the millionaires going to riot?

Russian Gerard Depardieu won't

Luigi Galleani
01-04-2013, 07:41 AM
When are the millionaires going to riot?

Russian Gerard Depardieu won't

Yeah, I heard he is enjoying some Smirnoff with the Kremlin elite over there already.

Žołnir
01-04-2013, 08:42 AM
Good! And i tought socialists were evil! :icon_cool: I wouldn't cut welfare only for immigrants however. I would cut all welfare there is! :)

Sultan Suleiman
01-04-2013, 03:10 PM
It was about time :P

Sultan Suleiman
01-04-2013, 03:13 PM
When did the Frenchies grow balls?

SilverKnight
01-04-2013, 05:03 PM
I see this more in Europe for some reason, here in the US all immigrants are not categorized in one group there's the illegal and the legal immigrant, there's nothing wrong with giving a hand to an law-biding hardworking tax payer immigrant, but when it comes to pouring all of our resources/ money for illegal immigrants who at most times don't want to integrate then that's when we have a problem sir !

safinator
01-04-2013, 08:53 PM
Everywhere should be like this.

MarkyMark
01-05-2013, 03:37 AM
Watch them repal the act after 1 month and 15 days.

Relevant:

http://i.imgur.com/RZyyY.png