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Lyfing
08-03-2009, 04:35 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Hammars_%28I%29.JPG

It can be a really nice thing to see stories remembered in a symbolic fashion. Other posts of mine such as this one (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=67479&postcount=14) and that one (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73308&postcount=40) go to show my take on the matter..

The Stora Hammar Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stora_Hammar_stone) is just such a thing. It is said to tell the legend of Hildr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_Hildr)

Hildr is a Valkyrie..


Hrist and Mist the horn shall bear me,
Skeggjold and Skogul;
but Hild and Thruth, Hlokk and Herfjotur,
Goll and Geironul,
Randgrith and Rathgrith and Reginleif,
to the einherjar ale shall bear.

Grimnismal 37, Hollander trans.

A simple short to the point telling of the story goes like this..


Hogne and Hild

A king by name Hogne had a daughter by name Hild. Her a king, by name Hedin, son of Hjarrande, made a prisoner of war, while King Hogne had fared to the trysting of the kings. But when he learned that there had been harrying in his kingdom, and that his daughter had been taken away, he rode with his army in search of Hedin, and learned that he had sailed northward along the coast. When King Hogne came to Norway, he found out that Hedin had sailed westward into the sea. Then Hogne sailed after him to the Orkneys. And when he came to the island called Ha, then Hedin was there before him with his host. Then Hild went to meet her father, and offered him as a reconciliation from Hedin a necklace; but if he was not willing to accept this, she said that Hedin was prepared for a battle, and Hogne might expect no clemency from him. Hogne answered his daughter harshly. When she returned to Hedin, she told him that Hogne would not be reconciled, and bade him busk himself for the battle. And so both parties did; they landed on the island and marshaled their hosts. Then Hedin called to Hogne, his father-in-law, offering him a reconciliation and much gold as a ransom. Hogne answered: Too late do you offer to make peace with me, for now I have drawn the sword Dainsleif, which was smithied by the dwarfs, and must be the death of a man whenever it is drawn; its blows never miss the mark, and the wounds made by it never heal. Said Hedin: You boast the sword, but not the victory. That I call a good sword that is always faithful to its master. Then they began the battle which is called the Hjadninga-vig (the slaying of the Hedinians); they fought the whole day, and in the evening the kings fared back to their ships. But in the night Hild went to the battlefield, and waked up with sorcery all the dead that had fallen. The next day the kings went to the battlefield and fought, and so did also they who had fallen the day before. Thus the battle continued from day to day; and all they who fell, and all the swords that lay on the field of battle, and all the shields, became stone. But as soon as day dawned all the dead arose again and fought, and all the weapons became new again, and in songs it is said that the Hjadnings will so continue until Ragnarok.

http://www.northvegr.org/lore/prose2/033.php

For more stories and some more insight see this wikipedia thing.. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_Hildr)

There is a whole bunch to this one that I will ponder on much more..

The notion of Valhalla is some notion. They say we held the gravemound to be where we should be with our family. Lest we might be haunting. There being no separation of body and soul, and no where to even find or put in it's proper place the person who went a warring, we came up with Valhalla. All of that has to do with the community anyway. The family tree (Yggdrasil) trembles. Let us prepare for Ragnarok.

Thoughts or anything else fellow Heathens..??

Later,
-Lyfing

qwero
12-19-2010, 04:09 PM
How do You think this hummer (http://qwerto.com/tors-hammer-pendant-black-leather-p-103.html) is same or something different with different story

or this one (http://qwerto.com/bronze-pendant-black-leather-tors-hammer-p-105.html) copy from original from Tallin historical museum

Thanks

Germanicus
12-19-2010, 07:01 PM
It's interesting because in this scene there is depicted a valknut.
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n449/ruffusruffcut/Tangelgarda_Odin.jpg
Due to the Norwegian name for the symbol, valknuter, and the fact that the symbol appears on picture stones with Odin and on burial gifts in the Oseberg ship burial, Rudolf Simek states that the symbol may have been associated with religious practices surrounding death. Some speculation has been put forward relating the Suebian knot hair style recorded by Tacitus to the valknut.

The Valknut (Old Norse valr, "slain warriors" + knut, "knot") is a symbol consisting of three interlocked triangles, and appears on various Germanic objects. A number of theories have been proposed for its significance.

Bloodeagle
12-19-2010, 07:13 PM
I took my username from this scene. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png/334px-Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png) http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sacrificial_scene_on_Hammars_%28II%29.png)
A section from the Stora Hammars I stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stora_Hammars_stones) from Gotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotland), Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden). The illustration shows a man lying on his belly with another man using a weapon on his back. There is a Valknut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valknut) above him, and two eagles, one of which is held by a man to the right.