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Anglojew
01-15-2013, 02:23 AM
If you could, which European (I know someone will say Israel because I'm Jewish but let's stick to Europe) countries would you get rid of eg would you merge Northern Ireland with Ireland or give Kosovo back to Serbia?

Which European countries borders would you change? eg Would you give Prussia back to Germany?

Which European countries would you create? eg Would you make "Lombardia"
(by breaking up Italy)?

http://www.staypoland.com/images/mapa-historyczna_en.jpg

Virtuous
01-15-2013, 02:32 AM
I would get rid of Malta, that tiny insignificant piece of rock in the Mediterranean. But then again Malta isn't in Europe, it's North Africa...oooh bummer.

Comte Arnau
01-15-2013, 02:34 AM
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Äike
01-15-2013, 02:37 AM
1. Split up Kosovo between Albania and Serbia following ethnic borders

2. Unite Northern-Ireland with Ireland, I think that religion isn't a good enough reason to be ruled by the UK.

3. Unite Germany and Austria

4. Make Russia give back occupied territories to Finland, Estonia and Latvia.

4. Unite Romania and Moldova

5. Give independence to the different autonomous republics in Russia, like Udmurtia etc.

6. Split up Belgium between France and The Netherlands

7. Make Latvia give back Estonia a handful of small towns to Estonia that were majority Estonian in 1920 Also, uniting Valga/Valka under Estonian rule.

8. Give back Hungary some neighboring Hungarian territories.

Sikeliot
01-15-2013, 02:43 AM
1. Give Northern Ireland to Ireland.
2. Catalunya independent.
3. Basque Country independent.
4. Galicia part of Portugal.
5. Occitania formed from parts of southern France and northern Italy.
6. Calabria, Apulia, Basilicata, and Sicily unite (I decided to let the Maltese enjoy their sovereignty and accept the historical fate) and abandon the standard Italian for their dialects.

MarkyMark
01-15-2013, 02:43 AM
Splitting up the European countries will just promote more European border wars, and contribute to a declining population.

Personally I would revive the Austro-Hungarian Empire, make a new sort of Greco-Roman hybrid country, unite Portugal and Spain, and unite Norway and Sweden. Now of course I understand there can be big differences among people in the same region(ie: Portugal and Spain) but as long as there is a province or state system to accomodate that I see nothing wrong with my plan.

Lemon Kush
01-15-2013, 02:45 AM
I'd merge Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, because they're all pretty much the same people just divided by religion. Also I would merge Bulgaria and Macedonia for the same reason and give Eastern Thrace back to Bulgaria.

Comte Arnau
01-15-2013, 02:55 AM
Now of course I understand there can be big differences among people in the same region(ie: Portugal and Spain) but as long as there is a province or state system to accomodate that I see nothing wrong with my plan.

There has already been such a system and it hasn't worked. The Portuguese would never rejoin Spain, while Catalonia and the Basque Country will soon secede.

Anglojew
01-15-2013, 02:59 AM
I would get rid of Malta, that tiny insignificant piece of rock in the Mediterranean. But then again Malta isn't in Europe, it's North Africa...oooh bummer.

I think Malta is counted in Europe so I'd make it as big as Sardinia.

Anglojew
01-15-2013, 05:12 AM
http://oi48.tinypic.com/301po3n.jpg

Interesting map.

Lappland is interesting as is Silesia.

Anglojew
01-15-2013, 05:13 AM
I'd merge Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, because they're all pretty much the same people just divided by religion. Also I would merge Bulgaria and Macedonia for the same reason and give Eastern Thrace back to Bulgaria.

New Yugoslavia?

Methmatician
01-15-2013, 05:30 AM
New Yugoslavia?

That's what I would do, assuming I (as God) can manipulate people's attitudes toward it.

Anglojew
01-15-2013, 05:33 AM
That's what I would do, assuming I (as God) can manipulate people's attitudes toward it.

Are you from there? Why wouldn't it end up in civil war again?

King Claus
01-15-2013, 05:36 AM
give prussia back to the germans and give romania to arabia.

Anglojew
01-15-2013, 05:38 AM
give prussia back to the germans and give romania to arabia.

Do you mean Bessarabia?

King Claus
01-15-2013, 05:40 AM
i don't know what that is though :p

Methmatician
01-15-2013, 05:43 AM
Are you from there? Why wouldn't it end up in civil war again?

Because I am God, and can make people get along.

Lemon Kush
01-15-2013, 06:10 AM
Are you from there? Why wouldn't it end up in civil war again?

You're probably right about that. I'd still give Bulgaria all it's lost territories back, also I'd divide Belgium in two giving the southern part to France, northern part to the Netherlands, and the small German speaking part to Germany.

RussiaPrussia
01-19-2013, 05:19 AM
1. I would divide germany between south and north, north will be prussia.

kalinengrad and the baltics would go to prussia.

2. Ukraine and belarus, kazakstan will go to russia, capital will be kiev.

3. Czech and slovaks one state.

4. Greece, cyprus, georgia, armenia, serbia and all the balkans will become byzantinium empire again and all of istanbul will be the capital.

5. Kurdistan independent country.

6. Turkey becomes aizerbaidschan and north cypruss.

7. chechenya Independent country

8. Belgian german province goes to prussia.

9. Transnistra will go to russia and the rest of moldovia to romania.

EagleAtHeart
01-19-2013, 05:27 AM
Every thread from you is to stir up trouble between Europeans and ostracize them. Divide and conquer. This is what makes Jews so reviled, yet you come here and do the same.

Incal
01-19-2013, 07:15 AM
1. Split up Kosovo between Albania and Serbia following ethnic borders

2. Unite Northern-Ireland with Ireland, I think that religion isn't a good enough reason to be ruled by the UK.

3. Unite Germany and Austria

4. Make Russia give back occupied territories to Finland, Estonia and Latvia.

4. Unite Romania and Moldova

5. Give independence to the different autonomous republics in Russia, like Udmurtia etc.

6. Split up Belgium between France and The Netherlands

7. Make Latvia give back Estonia a handful of small towns to Estonia that were majority Estonian in 1920 Also, uniting Valga/Valka under Estonian rule.

8. Give back Hungary some neighboring Hungarian territories.

I agree point by point.

Dacul
01-19-2013, 07:30 AM
If you could, which European (I know someone will say Israel because I'm Jewish but let's stick to Europe) countries would you get rid of eg would you merge Northern Ireland with Ireland or give Kosovo back to Serbia?

Which European countries borders would you change? eg Would you give Prussia back to Germany?

Which European countries would you create? eg Would you make "Lombardia"
(by breaking up Italy)?

http://www.staypoland.com/images/mapa-historyczna_en.jpg

I do not want to play God,I am not jewized enough to have that level of arogance.
Freaking idiot,untermenschen,your arogance speaks from you.

bella1407
01-19-2013, 06:35 PM
1.Kosovo to Serbia,albanians with "president of Kosovo" back to Albania.
2.Lwów(today Ukraine) to Poland.
3.Crimea to Russia.
4.Wilno("Vilnius") to Poland.
5.Unite Romania and Moldova .
6.Unite North. Ireland with Ireland.
7.Give independence to Catalonia.
8.Cyprus to Greece,non-european turks back to non-european Turkey.
9.Karabakh to Armenia.

Peyrol
01-19-2013, 06:38 PM
http://oi48.tinypic.com/301po3n.jpg

Dividing Italy will be more ''funny'' in this way:

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/2398/italiapostunitariacopia.jpg

Damiăo de Góis
01-19-2013, 06:42 PM
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What would we do to the spanish speaking people of Galicia? That Portugal + Galician join wouldn't be a trivial one.

Riki
01-19-2013, 06:44 PM
There's enough shit as It Is.
The more one stirs shit the more It stinks.

Slycooper
01-19-2013, 06:46 PM
Galicia imo if it is not independent should be with Portugal rather than Spain. It's debatable if Galicia even speaks a diff language.

Damiăo de Góis
01-19-2013, 06:48 PM
Galicia imo if it is not independent should be with Portugal rather than Spain. It's debatable if Galicia even speaks a diff language.

Nowadays, galicians speak spanish for the most part.. and they have done so since some centuries.

And yes, galician is a little different from portuguese.

Cail
01-19-2013, 06:48 PM
Basically break down all the states down to the level of about the size of a Swiss canton, institute direct democracy in each of them, then let them reunite based on mutual consent (referendums) as they see fit.

Slycooper
01-19-2013, 06:50 PM
Nowadays, galicians speak spanish for the most part.. and they have done so since some centuries.

And yes, galician is a little different from portuguese.

I quess after a while they can start to speak Portuguese. After sometime. Or just get back there Galician. But honestly. I think if they are to be with anyone in the Iberian Peninsula it should be Portugal not Spain.

Peyrol
01-19-2013, 06:54 PM
Is Mirandes language still alive?

Rouxinol
01-19-2013, 07:05 PM
Is Mirandes language still alive?

It's like a living fossil. It's taught as an option in some schools in Trás-os-Montes. But most likely you won't hear it spoken on the streets.

Peyrol
01-19-2013, 07:06 PM
It's like a living fossil. It's taught as an option in some schools in Trás-os-Montes. But most likely you won't hear it spoken on the streets.

Just like latin in the italian scholastic system :D

Permafrost
01-19-2013, 07:09 PM
I think I'll pass, cuz for sure if I played God with the European map I would offend all of my neighbours and maybe even my neighbour's neighbours :D

Gospodine
01-19-2013, 07:15 PM
Basically break down all the states down to the level of about the size of a Swiss canton, institute direct democracy in each of them, then let them reunite based on mutual consent (referendums) as they see fit.

Dear God, no. It would be even easier for the EU to swallow up countries than it is now.

Riki
01-19-2013, 07:26 PM
Nowadays, galicians speak spanish for the most part.. and they have done so since some centuries.

And yes, galician is a little different from portuguese.

And the Dates for the Division from Galician-Portuguese to individual Lang.
It's earlier then thought.
Newly discovered documents in Portuguese.

1175 - Notícia de Fiadores.

http://cvc.instituto-camoes.pt/tempolingua/fiador.jpg

Cail
01-19-2013, 07:28 PM
Dear God, no. It would be even easier for the EU to swallow up countries than it is now.

EU would be dismantled too in that scenario. After reuniting in any configuration of states those cantones would desire, said states would be able to reform EU if they want to (via plebiscite) or form any other supranational union. Direct democracy is the name of the game.

bella1407
01-19-2013, 07:36 PM
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Vasconcelos
01-19-2013, 07:38 PM
I disagree with "Galicia joining Portugal" as that indicates that one side is more significant than the other. If there was to be a union, it would have been on the grounds of a new country, with new institutions, new administration, and perhaps with a reintegration of both languages.

I don't think most people in both countries would want it, though.

Gospodine
01-19-2013, 07:43 PM
EU would be dismantled too in that scenario. After reuniting in any configuration of states those cantones would desire, said states would be able to reform EU if they want to (via plebiscite) or form any other supranational union. Direct democracy is the name of the game.

Divided and conquered quasi-states are ripe for exploitation by larger, imperialistic powers.

E.g. Balkanization and the Former Yugoslavia. Yeah we all have our own patch of land and we never have consensus on anything. End result? Privatization by stealth and economic slavery.

It's a bad road to go down...

Prime Number
01-20-2013, 03:48 AM
I would firstly dismantle the right-wing EU which enforces "free" markets and free movement of labor.

I see no point in clashing bourgeois nationalisms against each other, so these changes would be dependent on a proletarian nationalist uprising and socialist governments:

N. Ireland to be reunited with the RoI.
Independent Republics of England (inc. Wales) and Scotland (inc. Isle of Man)
Independence for the Basque nation, Catalonia, Castille, and Galicia.
Russia, Little Russia, and White Russia reunited.
Independence for Flanders.
Wallonia to unite with France.

Annihilus
01-20-2013, 04:07 AM
I would resurrect 1.000.000 Neanderthals and give them 100 years technological advantage and well, watch the show:D

Anglojew
01-20-2013, 05:46 AM
I would firstly dismantle the right-wing EU which enforces "free" markets and free movement of labor.

I see no point in clashing bourgeois nationalisms against each other, so these changes would be dependent on a proletarian nationalist uprising and socialist governments:

N. Ireland to be reunited with the RoI.
Independent Republics of England (inc. Wales) and Scotland (inc. Isle of Man)
Independence for the Basque nation, Catalonia, Castille, and Galicia.
Russia, Little Russia, and White Russia reunited.
Independence for Flanders.
Wallonia to unite with France.

I've never heard the EU be described as right wing before.

Unknown European
05-13-2020, 03:34 PM
What do you guys think about the Republic of North Macedonia?

pulstar
05-13-2020, 03:36 PM
What do you guys think about the Republic of North Macedonia?

Best... country... ever...