Mali War France's Invasion Begins, Algeria Involved

[SilverKnight]

Mali War France's Invasion Begins Against its own Created
Rebel Groups, Algeria Involved.

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[Vasconcelos]

Allez le bleus!

[Anglojew]

Where are the anti-war protesters?

France criticises America for every war but has been involved in something like 25 military actions since 1945.

[Tages]

What is the strategic importance of Mali for France? In other words, why is this place even worth 'saving'?

[poiuytrewq0987]

What is the strategic importance of Mali for France? In other words, why is this place even worth 'saving'?

Because the Al Qaeda is actually involved with the recent events in West Africa. It's vying to have a successful Islamic rebellion to happen like the one in Mali is happening so it can have a launching pad for it to organize and train and send terrorists to various targets. I think that is reason enough to intervene and crush any form of Islamic rebellion in West Africa.

[Vasconcelos]

Because the guys on the offensive are buddies of the Al-Qaeda, and their victory implies a security threat for France.

[Petersburg]

What is the strategic importance of Mali for France? In other words, why is this place even worth 'saving'?
It's one of their colonies, their sphere of influence, they have lots of troops and bases there.
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[Rouxinol]

The French intervention was requested by Mali's government. So, anyone using the label "invasion" or "colonial" should rephrase it.

[Loki]

Good luck to France :thumb001: It's their traditional influence sphere.

[Vasconcelos]

It's one of their colonies, their sphere of influence, they have lots of troops and bases there.

And citizens.

[Petersburg]

Also, all those countries are the part of French economic, poor guys work hard for nothing :)

[Loki]

Where are the anti-war protesters?

France criticises America for every war but has been involved in something like 25 military actions since 1945.

The current French government is actually very pro-American ... more so than the UK.

[Petersburg]

The current French government is actually very pro-American ... more so than the UK.

How can the UK be pro-American, if USA is a hegemon and UK is a sub-hegemon? They're enemies.

[Loki]

How can the UK be pro-American, if USA is a hegemon and UK is a sub-hegemon? They're enemies.

They're not enemies, they have a 'special relationship'.

[poiuytrewq0987]

They're not enemies, they have a 'special relationship'.

What kind of special relationship?

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[SilverKnight]

What is the strategic importance of Mali for France? In other words, why is this place even worth 'saving'?




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Watch the video please he'll explain everything the way it is.

[Anglojew]

The current French government is actually very pro-American ... more so than the UK.

The socialists might be "Pro-American" while Obama is in power but I bet if the Republicans were in power they'd go back to their old ways.

[Graham]

UK news reported that the French had been struggling & were asking for British help.

[Ouistreham]

What is the strategic importance of Mali for France? In other words, why is this place even worth 'saving'?

Central Africa is of zero economic importance to us.

On the other hand, the build-up of Islamic terrorism in the area makes it potentially the most dangerous place in the world. Muslim extremists virtually control most of Libya, the South of Algeria and large parts of Nigeria (remember that those countries are plenty of oil resources). Mali stands right in the middle. If it were to fall into Islamist hands, you would have an immense "Sahelistan", some kind of Afghanistan with strategic oil reserves over an area as large as Australia.

[Albion]

Where are the anti-war protesters?

France criticises America for every war but has been involved in something like 25 military actions since 1945.

Because it's France everyone is interested in how it does and supportive of it reasserting itself. If it was America or America plus the UK or NATO as a whole it would be evil of course.


The current French government is actually very pro-American ... more so than the UK.

Right........ :rolleyes:


How can the UK be pro-American, if USA is a hegemon and UK is a sub-hegemon? They're enemies.

Because we're a sub-hegemon of America, helping it project power instead of working against it. The junior partner in an alliance despite being the senior country.

[RussiaPrussia]

this war is good, because its islamic extremists like the FSA or lybian rebels who are financed by saudi arabia and cia. It just prooves european countries dont need nato to make such operations.

Saudi arabia wants radicalize the whole region including europe. All the salafists in germany are sponsored by Saudi Arabia.

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[InvaderNat]

What is the strategic importance of Mali for France? In other words, why is this place even worth 'saving'?

Gold! Gold! and more Gold! :( Not a single European life should be wasted on this little backwater shithole.

[Prime Number]

Hollande promised an end to the "Françafrique" neo-colonial relationship with Africa yet this action exposes the French pseudo-Socialist bourgeois government, even the right-wing politician Marine Le Pen has called French military involvement in Mali "legitimate".

Mali is in the heart of the resource-rich Sahel, home to valuable oil, uranium, and gold. French energy company Areva has mined thousands of tons of uranium in neighboring Niger, holding a monopoly on uranium mines there for decades whilst Niger remains one of the poorest countries in the world. Mali is Africa's third largest producer of gold, which is controlled mostly by Canadian companies. France is seeking closer ties with the bourgeois Algerian government, home to immense natural gas reserves. This is also a handy distraction from Hollande's attacks on the French proletariat, as his new reforms make it easier for employers to cut wages and dismiss employees.

The Tuareg people are a minority ethnic group of West Africa and have for decades struggled for self-determination and national liberation from the borders imposed on them by colonial empires. Their homeland makes up northern Mali, as well as much of Niger and smaller areas of other countries. The National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad, which is a secular movement, declared an independent Azawad during last April which the French government called "null and void". They said they could expel the Islamists if the international community recognized the independence of Azawad and have clashed with the forces of Ansar Dine on numerous occasions.

[Ouistreham]

this war is good, because its islamic extremists like the FSA or lybian rebels who are financed by saudi arabia and cia. It just prooves european countries dont need nato to make such operations.

Saudi arabia wants radicalize the whole region including europe. All the salafists in germany are sponsored by Saudi Arabia.

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For which reason no much help is to be expected from the U.S. of A. and their Limey lapdog.

Fuck NATO.

[Geni]

What is the strategic importance of Mali for France? In other words, why is this place even worth 'saving'?

Uranium for France central nuclear man...

[Albion]

For which reason no much help is to be expected from the U.S. of A. and their Limey lapdog.

Fuck NATO.

Mali isn't any of our business, it's your back yard not ours.

[SilverKnight]

this war is good, because its islamic extremists like the FSA or lybian rebels who are financed by saudi arabia and cia. It just prooves european countries dont need nato to make such operations.

Saudi arabia wants radicalize the whole region including europe. All the salafists in germany are sponsored by Saudi Arabia.

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People, it's all part of Ponzi scheme, there' n real value in the dollar not sure about Euro, but the dollar is artificially created, they need gold to bail US and Europe, Mali is part of this plan as well as Syria, is all about stealing not just from these people, murdering kids and women but also raping us here in the west. So it's not all "candy and flowers" for us :)


wake up... Watch this video

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[Loki]

this war is good, because its islamic extremists like the FSA or lybian rebels who are financed by saudi arabia and cia. It just prooves european countries dont need nato to make such operations.


You cannot be serious. Why would the CIA finance Islamic extremists :picard1:

[SKYNET]

this war is good, because its islamic extremists like the FSA or lybian rebels who are financed by saudi arabia and cia.




I thought the CIA workers were always against an islamic extremists, wtf now?? :confused:

[Hesperión]

You cannot be serious. Why would the CIA finance Islamic extremists :picard1:Why did they train and finance Al Qaeda in its early stages?

Also, with the so-called war against terror in Iraq they overthrew a secular government, Saddam's, which had no links with Al Qaeda or any Islamic terrorism. In fact if Saddam had fallen in the hands of Al Qaeda his fate would have been the same.

Now islamic extremism is rampant in Iraq, unlike what it was back with Saddam.

Syria is also a secular government, non suspect of being friendly to islamic extremism.

[Kemalisté]

Well, I will not really praise France about this, since it's well-obvious that it's not like France really cares about Mali or something. They still see it as a colony of them and does not miss any opportunity to intervene.

[SilverKnight]

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[Albion]

France is at least showing that it is able to project military power abroad though, even if Mali is quite a small conflict. The support it's had from its allies is counts, but it is still essentially a French operation with Mali. I suppose it shows that they actually do still retain power in their sphere of influence other than economic.

[archangel]

lol frenh army are known to be surrendered by others,i am wondered when will they surrender to mali warriors:)

[Albion]

lol frenh army are known to be surrendered by others,i am wondered when will they surrender to mali warriors:)

It was different in WWII, the attackers were German. When you consider this it is understandable, they probably had bad memories. :D
Anyway, France is credible as a military power. It makes much of its own equipment and is rather well equipped and has the ability to move troops around the world and supply them quite effectively. Before WWII it had a strong military, it is kind of sad that it gave up so quickly.

[archangel]

who said germans are good warriors?lol joke but you are right france can supply their army and can make their own weapons but they have some obsolete planes such as mirage f1 which they use even in mali

[evon]

What kind of special relationship?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rSW5VaVLpD4#t=125s

Time should be 02:05 for the right comment on British-American relations.


Why did they train and finance Al Qaeda in its early stages?


They used the idea of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" versus the Soviets. It was a different time with different ideologies, the modern Islamist terrorists did not yet exist at that time as we know it..


who said germans are good warriors?lol joke but you are right france can supply their army and can make their own weapons but they have some obsolete planes such as mirage f1 which they use even in mali

Mirage f1 should be sufficient enough against primitive Islamist rebels.