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legolasbozo
01-19-2013, 01:18 PM
A man drew a gun and aimed at an ethnic Turkish politician who was delivering a speech on Saturday during a congress of his party in Sofia, the Bulgarian capital.
The man jumped on the stage and pointed his gun at Ahmed Dogan, the leader of the Movement for Rights and Freedoms (MRF), but he could not fire his weapon and just seconds later he was knocked down by party members to the ground.
Television footage showed the man jumping out of the audience and interrupting a speech by 58-year-old Dogan, who has led the party for almost a quarter of a century. Security guards were seen beating and kicking the attacker.
It was not immediately clear why the assailant could not fire his gun and how he got passed the security to enter the hall where nearly 3,000 people were gathered for the congress.
Party members captured the assailant after a brief on-stage scuffle and handed him over to the security forces.
MRF's Deputy Chairman Lutfi Mestan said Dogan was in good condition.
MRF represents Bulgaria's nearly 600,000 ethnic Turks who make up 8.8 percent of the population.
The liberal MRF party represents ethnic Turks and other Muslims who make up about 12 percent of Bulgaria's 7.3 million-strong population.
Dogan is seen as one of Balkan country's most influential political figures. The MRF was a junior partner in the previous Socialist-led cabinet.
During his speech, Dogan was expected to announce that he was leaving his post and to lend support for HÖH Deputy Chairman Lütfi Mestan.
Attacker identified as a 25-year-old man with initials O.E. from the coastal city of Burgas, the press office of the Bulgarian Interior Ministry announced.
He was carrying a gas pistol and two knives. The 25-year-old man has a criminal record for hooliganism, causing physical injuries and robbery.

video: IeOTy84j3Y0

Dengizik
01-19-2013, 01:22 PM
Attacker is Turkish too.

legolasbozo
01-19-2013, 01:25 PM
Attacker is Turkish too.


Then it is really bad, if turks are in a conflict among themselves.

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 01:25 PM
I almost got excited that turks started killing eachother,and it turned out that the gun was a gas pistol:D

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 01:28 PM
BTW check out how they started kicking the guy in front of the cameras...

You cant see this kind of tribe mentality even in the Amazon forests.

video below

http://btvnews.bg/bulgaria/incidenti/opryaha-pistolet-v-cheloto-na-dogan.html

Onur
01-19-2013, 01:31 PM
It`s obvious that the security guards and police failed big time. How come they allowed him to enter to the building with a gun and two knives? How come he reached to the stage with a gun in his hand while the leader doing his speech? Why they didn't take him out immediately but kept him on the stage for a long time and let people unleash their anger on him?

The attacker clearly spoke Turkish and he has Turkish name, so he is probably a Turk or a Pomak. We will see how things will develop and who encouraged him to do this act. He could have killed Ahmed Dogan and he tried to pull the trigger but probably it stuck.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is encouraged by anti-Turkish Bulgarian intelligence or the former secret service agents who currently runs the ATAKA and VMRO-BG parties.

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 01:36 PM
It`s obvious that the security guards and police failed big time. How come they allowed him to enter to the building with a gun and two knives? How come he reached to the stage with a gun in his hand while the leader doing his speech? Why they didn't take him out immediately but kept him on the stage for a long time and let people unleash their anger on him?

The attacker clearly spoke Turkish and he has Turkish name, so he is probably a Turk or a Pomak. We will see how things will develop and who encouraged him to do this act. He could have killed Ahmed Dogan and he tried to pull the trigger but probably it stuck.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is encouraged by anti-Turkish Bulgarian intelligence or the former secret service agents who currently runs the ATAKA and VMRO-BG parties.

You need to inform youreself more about stuff!

Ahmed Dogan-the leader was a spy for the bulgarian communist secret service!

It was a GAS pistol!:picard1:
How can you kill someone with a gas pistol?!

And he is from the same party!
He has olso been a member of the youth organization of MRF!

This is just a typical prelection scenario.

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 01:45 PM
Onurogly thinks Bulgaria is like Turkey.
Secret service encourage murders and stuff LMFAO!
Like they killed those kurdish activists in Paris...

And the bulgarian intelligence will send this 25 year old Oktay Enimehmedov,in front of everyone with a gas pistol that he couldnt even fire.:D

Dengizik
01-19-2013, 01:47 PM
You need to inform youreself more about stuff!

Ahmed Dogan-the leader was a spy for the bulgarian communist secret service!

It was a GAS pistol!:picard1:
How can you kill someone with a gas pistol?!

And he is from the same party!
He has olso been a member of the youth organization of MRF!

This is just a typical prelection scenario.

Its a makarov pistol:

http://markgreaneybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Makarov380.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarov_pistol

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 01:58 PM
Its a makarov pistol:

http://markgreaneybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Makarov380.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarov_pistol

Nope

Its a EKOL VOLGA-gas pistol made in Turkiye

http://www.dnevnik.bg/shimg/zx450y250_1987104.jpg

Dengizik
01-19-2013, 02:05 PM
Nope

Its a EKOL VOLGA-gas pistol made in Turkiye



So its proven this attempt was a theatre?

legolasbozo
01-19-2013, 02:15 PM
As bugaresh said, i don't know whether true or not, if Turkish leader is a spy of Bulgarian government somebody wanted to give a message to him. Because if anyone attempt to kill, it is obvious that assassin could reach so close to him so main purpose is not killing, everybody knows that it won't happen with an air gun. İ don't know, this case is stinks.

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 02:16 PM
Cant believe they would be so stupid to make it so amateurish.:D

Only the beating at the end seemed real.

But going up on the scene with a gas pistol and cant pull the trigger its just...:D

This has to be someones scenario,we should wait a while to see what the official results will say.

Oldby
01-19-2013, 02:17 PM
http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/16097357/481/normal/a51f6f3d8b01e/attentatsman2.jpg
http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/16097358/481/normal/da91abaf481d9/attentatsman1.jpg

He doesnt look very turkish to me..

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 02:21 PM
This is getting funnier by the minute!

It turns out that this guys brother is Metin Enimehmedov-winner of a Ferrari on a bulgarian quiz show

http://www.slavishow.com/content/uploads/2012/03/metin.jpg

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 02:27 PM
As bugaresh said, i don't know whether true or not, if Turkish leader is a spy of Bulgarian government somebody wanted to give a message to him. Because if anyone attempt to kill, it is obvious that assassin could reach so close to him so main purpose is not killing, everybody knows that it won't happen with an air gun. İ don't know, this case is stinks.
Lustration process that went on in Bulgaria showed everyone who worked for the service.

Ahmed Dogan was one of them.
As well as the leader of VMRO.
The former president as well.

And tons of other politicians.

denz
01-19-2013, 02:31 PM
Even if it is a teathre, Ahmet Dogan doesnt seem the actor who want take the first place.

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 02:39 PM
He got it

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59580_524361277586100_367604549_n.jpg

purple
01-19-2013, 03:30 PM
The whole thing was made up. They are now showing a TV special for the whole scene.



Hopefully we don't turn into Kosovo, because recently there are too much of those attacks in Bulgaria..with the Israeli tourists, now this (even though it's obviously fake)..

purple
01-19-2013, 03:33 PM
It`s obvious that the security guards and police failed big time. How come they allowed him to enter to the building with a gun and two knives? How come he reached to the stage with a gun in his hand while the leader doing his speech? Why they didn't take him out immediately but kept him on the stage for a long time and let people unleash their anger on him?

The attacker clearly spoke Turkish and he has Turkish name, so he is probably a Turk or a Pomak. We will see how things will develop and who encouraged him to do this act. He could have killed Ahmed Dogan and he tried to pull the trigger but probably it stuck.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is encouraged by anti-Turkish Bulgarian intelligence or the former secret service agents who currently runs the ATAKA and VMRO-BG parties.


LOL, this has nothing to do with Ataka or any other nationalistic party. This was apparently made up :picard2: You can't seriously believe this was real..

Adrian
01-19-2013, 04:58 PM
The whole thing was made up. They are now showing a TV special for the whole scene.



Hopefully we don't turn into Kosovo, because recently there are too much of those attacks in Bulgaria..with the Israeli tourists, now this (even though it's obviously fake)..

Kosovo is one of the most peaceful countries in the Balkans, in terms of these kind of problems, you dumb!

What on earth has Kosovo to do with this thread!

Archduke
01-19-2013, 05:14 PM
Kosovo is one of the most peaceful countries in the Balkans, in terms of these kind of problems, you dumb!

What on earth has Kosovo to do with this thread!

She probably meant that there could be a danger for second Kosovo on the Balkans - Turkish puppet state within the borders of Bulgaria.

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 05:27 PM
An empty pistol
for voters with an empty brain

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/150661_320652118036674_18078173_n.jpg

Adrian
01-19-2013, 05:34 PM
She probably meant that there could be a danger for second Kosovo on the Balkans - Turkish puppet state within the borders of Bulgaria.

One more reason to categorize her as dumb!

morski
01-19-2013, 05:44 PM
An empty pistol
for voters with an empty brain

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/150661_320652118036674_18078173_n.jpg

:thumb001::D

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 05:47 PM
Check out the comments on this turkish site.

They are ccusing Bulgaria of ethnic repression against turks.:D

Stupid turko brains.
It just makes me sick when someone plays the ethnic card for everything,now even for this.

Turks act as if they are niggers from South Africa.

http://www.radikal.com.tr/Radikal.aspx?aType=RadikalDetayV3&ArticleID=1117635&CategoryID=81


Bulgarların etnik olarak örgütlenmesi 1800'lü yıllarda başlamıştır ve o günden bu yana bu milliyetçiliğin itici gücü Türk düşmanlığı temelinde yükseldi ve bu devam ediyor. Yaklaşık 1 Milyon Türk baskı, zulüm ve katliamlarla birlikte kaçmaya zorlanmış,sürgün edilmiştir. Azınlık durumuna düşen ama siyasal mücadelelerinde yılmayan Türkler Ahmet Doğan'nın liderliğinde HÖH ile bugün parlementoda yerlerini almışlar ve sadece Bulgaristan'daki Türk toplumu için değil tüm Bulgaristan için çalışmakta, daha da kökleşmektedir. Saldırgan Bulgar Milliyetçiliğinin gözü dönmüş tetikçilerinin arkasında sindirme politikalarının devamını savunan güçleri Türkler boşa çıkaracaklardır. Ahmet Doğan'a büyük geçmiş olsun derken, devlet ve millet olarak konunun takipçisi olduğumuzu Bulgarların bilmesi gerekir. Türklere uygulanan açık ve gizli zulüme son verilmelidir.

purple
01-19-2013, 06:11 PM
Kosovo is one of the most peaceful countries in the Balkans, in terms of these kind of problems, you dumb!

What on earth has Kosovo to do with this thread!


And actually Kosovo has something to do with this thread. It's on the Balkan peninsula where ethnic conflicts are something quite usual.

Such problems like this (with the attack) provoke further questions whether Turks and Bulgarians really live in peace all those years, or political parties intentionally promote violence and hatred between different ethnic groups. How this makes me dumb?

Lithium
01-19-2013, 06:15 PM
The whole thing was fake. Every single time before the elections something "dramatic" happens with Dogan. He made a nice show for the liberals from Europe.

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 06:59 PM
I can say just one thing after all the news and statements I read today

http://www.dnevnik.bg/shimg/cbig_1920561.jpg

morski
01-19-2013, 07:03 PM
I can say just one thing after all the news and statements I read today

http://www.dnevnik.bg/shimg/cbig_1920561.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UrunB7i9SJw/TE0fEoxe0iI/AAAAAAAABjE/ZKdhfh4Je1Q/s1600/DMC_0715.JPG

Trun
01-19-2013, 07:11 PM
All of you are wrong. Theatre? Absolutely not. This has logical explanation.

The brother of one of the most famous Turks in Bulgaria attacking another of the most famous Turks in Bulgaria?

Just some "the most famous Turk in Bulgaria" duel between Metin and Dogan...and the former sent his brother.

Typical Turkish dumb behavior. Now genius detectives like me can solve the case with ease. If Metin had sent his second cousin instead, it would have been much more mysterious :icon_ask:

Hayalet
01-19-2013, 07:17 PM
How exactly would Dogan benefit from such a set-up?

morski
01-19-2013, 07:20 PM
How exactly would Dogan benefit from such a set-up?

They are afraid of loosing popular support. This hoax is supposed to consolidate their voters.

Archduke
01-19-2013, 07:20 PM
How exactly would Dogan benefit from such a set-up?

1. The Western world will view him and Turks in Bulgaria overall as victims

2. There are elections after few months.

purple
01-19-2013, 07:22 PM
Ще ударят срещу ГЕРБ:rolleyes:

ioan assen
01-19-2013, 07:25 PM
It looks like an action movie. I dont know what to think but I wouldnt be surprised if its directed by Dogan himself with the motive Morski pointed out.

Hayalet
01-19-2013, 07:28 PM
They are afraid of loosing popular support. This hoax is supposed to consolidate their voters.
Except the identity of the assailant was immediately revealed. And I don't see how they could have hoped to keep it a secret.

Incal
01-19-2013, 07:31 PM
Why are there still Turks in Bulgaria? Or were Greeks the only ones who did population exchanges with the Turks? (I guess there should not be many Bulgars in Anatolia to start with but still).

morski
01-19-2013, 07:32 PM
Except the identity of the assailant was immediately revealed. And I don't see how they could have hoped to keep it a secret.

The identity of the assailant doesn't really matter.

Virtuous
01-19-2013, 07:34 PM
Impossible to fail when you're that close, it's obvious that it was planned to fail. Must have been paid well to get beaten the shit out of.

First thing I thought of when I saw that pistol was a Makarov indeed.

morski
01-19-2013, 07:35 PM
Why are there still Turks in Bulgaria? Or were Greeks the only ones who did population exchanges with the Turks? (I guess there should not be many Bulgars in Anatolia to start with but still).

Although Turks were the subject of different forms of repression throughout the years, none were so severe as to totally ethnic cleanse them, unlike what happened to the Bulgarians of Eastern Thrace in 1913.

morski
01-19-2013, 07:40 PM
Impossible to fail when you're that close, it's obvious that it was planned to fail. Must have been paid well to get beaten the shit out of.

First thing I thought of when I saw that pistol was a Makarov indeed.

The type of the gun is totally irrelevant since it wasn't even loaded, no cartridge-clip.

Hayalet
01-19-2013, 07:40 PM
The identity of the assailant doesn't really matter.
How doesn't it matter? How could they have planned to present this a move by Bulgarian extremists if the man is a Turk?

morski
01-19-2013, 07:45 PM
How doesn't it matter? How could they have planned to present this a move by Bulgarian extremists if the man is a Turk?

It doesn't need to be presented as a move by Bulgarian extremists. It's enough that their founder and leader for 28 years was attacked. Besides, I expect all kind of rumours and speculations to enter the public domain now, like what one of the Turkish members mentioned earlier - that the assailant was working for the Bulgarian secret services.:D:picard1:

Virtuous
01-19-2013, 07:46 PM
The type of the gun is totally irrelevant since it wasn't even loaded, no cartridge-clip.

I know, I agree.

legolasbozo
01-19-2013, 07:54 PM
i read comments in here, they make sense but think about it, if Turkish leader wanted to benefit of this assassination attempt, and gather sympathy of Europeans and Turks
he would hire a bulgarian, so he can unite the Turks with this fake assassination. And as we can see, there isn't any clip in the gun, but it may be felt when bodyguards jumped at assassin. These are all theories, i don't know the leader, maybe once he did the same show.

Virtuous
01-19-2013, 07:56 PM
Looks Slavic to me, not Turk (the so called assassin).

morski
01-19-2013, 07:59 PM
i read comments in here, they make sense but think about it, if Turkish leader wanted to benefit of this assassination attempt, and gather sympathy of Europeans and Turks
he would hire a bulgarian, so he can unite the Turks with this fake assassination. And as we can see, there isn't any clip in the gun, but it may be felt when bodyguards jumped at assassin. These are all theories, i don't know the leader, maybe once he did the same show.

Maybe it's just some intra-communal feud. Wherever lots of money is involved all moral scruples disappear.

Dengizik
01-19-2013, 08:00 PM
Looks Slavic to me, not Turk (the so called assassin).

Pomak probably. (Muslim Bulgarian)

morski
01-19-2013, 08:00 PM
Looks Slavic to me, not Turk (the so called assassin).

Most Bulgarian Turks look like Bulgarians actually.

purple
01-19-2013, 08:00 PM
And the police and the delegates (!!!!!) started beating the guy in front of camera..How inappropriate and wrong is this:confused:

morski
01-19-2013, 08:02 PM
And the police and the delegates (!!!!!) started beating the guy in front of camera..How inappropriate and wrong is this:confused:

It's highly appropriate, imo.

Lithium
01-19-2013, 08:02 PM
The so called attacker is a pomak as far as I know. Also I am sure that not many Turks will know or care about the attacker's ethnicity. A big percent of the Turks who vote do not even live here and they also don't speak Bulgarian. Dogan's goal was to be presented as both hero and a victim in front of the European liberals who were at the conference.

Virtuous
01-19-2013, 08:05 PM
Pomak probably. (Muslim Bulgarian)



Most Bulgarian Turks look like Bulgarians actually.

Mmkay. I am sure people are not stupid enough to buy into this assassination attempt BS.

morski
01-19-2013, 08:05 PM
The so called attacker is a pomak as far as I know. Also I am sure that not many Turks will know or care about the attacker's ethnicity. A big percent of the Turks who vote do not even live here and they also don't speak Bulgarian. Dogan's goal was to be presented as both hero and a victim in front of the European liberals who were at the conference.

He had to go in a dramatic way, now, hadn't he.:D The fucker's been the leader of the party for 28 years, like a fucking Arab dictator or what not.:D

purple
01-19-2013, 08:05 PM
But the DELEGATES, damn it!!!

morski
01-19-2013, 08:07 PM
But the DELEGATES, damn it!!!

Responsible citizens.:thumb001:

purple
01-19-2013, 08:08 PM
Guy's from Burgas, Slaveykov

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 08:09 PM
They are afraid of loosing popular support. This hoax is supposed to consolidate their voters.

It all seems so amateurish,thats why I dont see how can it be a set up...

Trun
01-19-2013, 08:10 PM
He had to go in a dramatic way, now, hadn't he.:D The fucker's been the leader of the party for 28 years, like a fucking Arab dictator or what not.:D

Shaih Ahmed Dogan Al-Izmet.

Virtuous
01-19-2013, 08:11 PM
It all seems so amateurish,thats why I dont see how can it be a set up...

maybe he was an amateur and he was unknowingly given a fake/unloaded pistol.

I mean, without him knowing.

morski
01-19-2013, 08:12 PM
Guy's from Burgas, Slaveykov

Hardcore Burgas Meden Rudnik!

pU7omEERcVI

Руенските амуджи са бруталисти!:D

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 08:16 PM
The idiotic media even published pictures of the apartment where the attacker lives with his family.

One more reason why I cant be put into thinking this is just a set up,I mean who would agree on pulling himself into something like this?

http://85.14.28.164/d/images/slideshows/0000031061-middle.jpg

http://85.14.28.164/d/images/slideshows/0000031060-middle.jpg

http://85.14.28.164/d/images/slideshows/0000031058-middle.jpg

http://85.14.28.164/d/images/slideshows/0000031055-middle.jpg

Trun
01-19-2013, 08:16 PM
I think I found "behind the scenes" general repetition video.

1G9Pd52Dp-M

Adrian
01-19-2013, 08:18 PM
And actually Kosovo has something to do with this thread. It's on the Balkan peninsula where ethnic conflicts are something quite usual.

Find me single Balkan country that is immune regarding inter-ethnic problems!
The Kosovo war ended 12 years ago but, but some ignorant, like your own, still think that here is continuing the war.
Unlike other countries in the Balkans, Kosovo has the most liberal constitution possible. There is no international convention of human rights, and especially the one about minorities, which is not included in the constitution. If you read the constitution of Kosovo you will understand that minorities are positively discriminated. Therefore your example was dumb.


Such problems like this (with the attack) provoke further questions whether Turks and Bulgarians really live in peace all those years, or political parties intentionally promote violence and hatred between different ethnic groups. How this makes me dumb?

It is out of my business how Turks and Bulgarians manage the situation. What I do know is that you don't have the slightest idea about current situation in Kosovo. Every inter-ethnic problem, depending on which state occurs, has its own specifics. To compare the case that is being discussed in this thread with the case of Kosovo you must be dumb.
You go even further, mentioning Kosovo in the context of attack against Israelis in Bulgaria. Only your brain knows how such parallel can be drawn, when we consider that the attacks against foreigners in Kosovo, during the last 12 years, are almost nonexistent.

Archduke
01-19-2013, 08:20 PM
The idiotic media even published pictures of the apartment where the attacker lives with his family.

Ahh it seems that im neighbour with the person who tried to kill Dogan. :cool:

morski
01-19-2013, 08:25 PM
Ahh it seems that im neighbour with the person who tried to kill Dogan. :cool:

Do you have something to do with this? Is it because TA Turks got you banned?:D

Bugarash 1893
01-19-2013, 08:31 PM
Find me single Balkan country that is immune regarding inter-ethnic problems!
The Kosovo war ended 12 years ago but, but some ignorant, like your own, still think that here is continuing the war.
Unlike other countries in the Balkans, Kosovo has the most liberal constitution possible. There is no international convention of human rights, and especially the one about minorities, which is not included in the constitution. If you read the constitution of Kosovo you will understand that minorities are positively discriminated. Therefore your example was dumb.


The war ended and you declared indipendence but Kosovo is still an open issue.

Half of the world doesnt recognize it,it is not an UN member.
And you have no control over the North.

You need to solve at least one of these issues in order to say the situation there is calm.

RussiaPrussia
01-19-2013, 09:15 PM
http://rt.com/s/tmp/officers-bloodied-year-leader.jpg

they broke his nose after to save their lives

east
01-19-2013, 11:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROKeovPE744

Tonight's the night we'll make history,
as sure as dogs can fly
And I'll take any risk to tie back the hands of time
And stay with you here to night
So take your seats and don't be late,
we need your spirits high
To turn on these theatre lights
and brighten the darkest skies
Here at the Paradise.…:)

xajapa
01-20-2013, 12:15 AM
I think I found "behind the scenes" general repetition video.

1G9Pd52Dp-M
Yes. The old man sure seemed to hold his own against a big, young guy in the fracas that followed.

Adrian
01-20-2013, 10:16 AM
The war ended and you declared indipendence but Kosovo is still an open issue.

Half of the world doesnt recognize it,it is not an UN member.
And you have no control over the North.

You need to solve at least one of these issues in order to say the situation there is calm.

None of these is an example with which can be made comparisons with the issue of the Turks in Bulgaria.

In Brussels are being held meetings between the Prime Minister of Kosovo and Serbia, and the issue is being resolved by agreement. The last meeting was held yesterday and negotiations are going on the right track -

http://www.pressonline.rs/sw4i/thumbnail/tviter-dacic.jpg?thumbId=900680
PM of Serbia, Lady Ashton, PM of Kosovo

Regarding other parts of Kosovo, which are inhabited by minorities, the problems are almost nonexistent.

For this thread is completely irrelevant how many countries have recognized Kosovo. Here we are talking about inter-ethnic relations and Kosovo is not the best example to be taken in negative aspect. Upon completion of negotiations in Brussels, roughly in August of this year, Kosovo will serve as a model for the regulation of all inter-ethnic problems in the Balkans.

Bugarash 1893
01-20-2013, 10:56 AM
None of these is an example with which can be made comparisons with the issue of the Turks in Bulgaria.

In Brussels are being held meetings between the Prime Minister of Kosovo and Serbia, and the issue is being resolved by agreement. The last meeting was held yesterday and negotiations are going on the right track -

http://www.pressonline.rs/sw4i/thumbnail/tviter-dacic.jpg?thumbId=900680
PM of Serbia, Lady Ashton, PM of Kosovo

Regarding other parts of Kosovo, which are inhabited by minorities, the problems are almost nonexistent.

For this thread is completely irrelevant how many countries have recognized Kosovo. Here we are talking about inter-ethnic relations and Kosovo is not the best example to be taken in negative aspect. Upon completion of negotiations in Brussels, roughly in August of this year, Kosovo will serve as a model for the regulation of all inter-ethnic problems in the Balkans.

LOL:picard1:

You're talking about Kosovo for christ's sake!:D
Model,example,leader WTF,get back on earth.

You are still living in that post indipendence atmosphere and thats why now you're enlarging the rights of serbs,as time flies,things will change.

Now you dont see it as a big deal because you think you received much much more than you gave in,but you just wait.

Same goes about the economic situation.
As soon the post independence feeling,the achivment of the great dream of an independent Kosovo wears off,you will see...

And besides,there is still strong inter-ethnic hatred in Kosovo.
Albanians hate Serbs and Serbs hate your guts.

Now you will get another Republic Srpska in the North just like there is one in Bosnia.Your leaders are selling you out in Brussels.

Seryously,I havent seen bigger puppets to the west than the albanian leaders.

Especially the ones in Kosovo and Macedonia.

Adrian
01-20-2013, 04:11 PM
LOL:picard1:

You're talking about Kosovo for christ's sake!:D
Model,example,leader WTF,get back on earth.

You are still living in that post indipendence atmosphere and thats why now you're enlarging the rights of serbs,as time flies,things will change.

Now you dont see it as a big deal because you think you received much much more than you gave in,but you just wait.

Same goes about the economic situation.
As soon the post independence feeling,the achivment of the great dream of an independent Kosovo wears off,you will see...

And besides,there is still strong inter-ethnic hatred in Kosovo.
Albanians hate Serbs and Serbs hate your guts.

Now you will get another Republic Srpska in the North just like there is one in Bosnia.Your leaders are selling you out in Brussels.

Seryously,I havent seen bigger puppets to the west than the albanian leaders.

Especially the ones in Kosovo and Macedonia.

:picard2:

Now you have began to deal with the predictions of the future?

Nostradamus is jelly. LOL

In Kosovo will not happen any Republika Srpska. In this case would open Pandora's box and the Balkan borders will change in each country. From this Albanians would benefit mostly. But, I repeat, none of these will happen currently.

Regarding brilliant relations with the U.S. and other non-Slavic countries- I must say that we are very happy about this fact. We are surrounded by Slavs, and it is normal to have non-Slavic partners like USA, UK, Germany, France, Italy, etc.

Bugarash 1893
01-22-2013, 09:42 AM
Looks like Oktay is of the bulgarian kind:D

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530771_4785206161739_1314210500_n.jpg

Onur
01-26-2013, 01:08 PM
Here are some articles i just saw in Bulgarian media;


Bulgarian media claims that the Bulgarians wants "ethnic Turks" to be probed because they beat down the attacker;
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=147041


Bulgarian media also claims that the Bulgarian Turks supports the attacker;
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=147051


Bulgarian interior min.; "Lynch of Dogan's attacker shows his party's face"!;
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=147059


Bulgarian prosecutors hurried to charge members of the Turkish party for beating down Dogan's attacker;
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=147045


Bulgarian MPs from other parties rushes to defend the attacker as his lawyer for free of charge;
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=147043


And finally, Bulgarian Parliament Fails to Condemn Dogan Assassination Attempt (!!!);
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=147134


while the new leader of Turkish party complains about the attempts to turn Dogan's attacker into some kind of martyr and also complains about the prosecutors who charges him for only hooliganism;
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=147121



These articles does a good summery of the situation of ethnic Turks who lives in Bulgaria and what kind of ill behavior and hostility they have to endure from Bulgarian elite.

Lithium
01-26-2013, 01:12 PM
There is no place for Turks and fake Turks in Bulgaria's ruling elite. Turks aren't discriminated by Bulgarians but the other way around is quite common in pred. muslim infected places. For example in Kurdjali it's really hard to go into a shop and order in Bulgarian.

Proto-Shaman
01-26-2013, 01:30 PM
lol something evilish is going on here... Vatican? :rolleyes:

Jizo
01-27-2013, 12:19 PM
He he Oktay is almost like a Bulgarian hero- Great plan,poor actions and almost got killed by Turkish fundamentalist he he

Jizo
01-27-2013, 12:20 PM
Also he was not a robber, but a drug dealer. Dogan efendi deserves a Oscar for his pathetic performance

east
01-29-2013, 06:38 PM
These articles does a good summery of the situation of ethnic Turks who lives in Bulgaria and what kind of ill behavior and hostility they have to endure from Bulgarian elite.

Your conlusion is wrong , dear. HOH and Dogan do not represent all Bulgarian Turks, because not all etnic Turks vote him. His voters are living in villages, he and his company goes around and scare them with new "Revival proces". Poor villagers believe him and vote. Educated people and living in cities understood 20 years ago what a sh*t is he and dont vote him. Appr. 30% of Bulgarian Turks vote other party, not HOH.
This party was created by securiy services of Commie party to gather the vote of BG Turks. After 1990 when democracy came in Bulgaria, were established a lot of new democratic parties - liberals and right wings. The mood of BG Turks was strongly agains Commie party - BKP, which change its name to BSP. The BG Turks never at all would not vote this party. And here is the catch. HOH gathers vote of BG Turks, thinking vote Dogan. At real Dogan playing on the side of BSP. The thruth rise when HOH, BSP and NDSV made coaliton cabinet and ruled 2005-2009. This the greatest proov that Dogan is part of Commies. Thats why normal people don't love him. He joined ours ex-torturers. Don't cry for him, he is a trash.