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Su
01-19-2013, 10:49 PM
Feel free and post it and let's compare it, my newest results are:

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j474/london110685/genetics/2_time_part1.png

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j474/london110685/genetics/2_time_part2.png

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j474/london110685/genetics/2_time_part3.png

In numbers:


Most likely fit is 6.2% (+- 0.8%) Mideast (all North Africa)

and 88.7% (+- 2.1%) Mideast (all Turkish)

which is 94.9% total Mideast

and 5.1% (+- 1.4%) Europe (all Northeast Europe)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Mozabite= 0.056 Turkish= 0.885 Chuvash= 0.059 or

Moroccan= 0.076 Turkish= 0.854 Chuvash= 0.071 or

Mozabite= 0.058 Turkish= 0.902 Russian= 0.041 or

Mozabite= 0.058 Turkish= 0.907 Finland= 0.035

In this newest results he guessed me as NE Turk or Caucasus but I am neither from NE Turkey nor Caucasus. Bad guessed.:D

orangepulp
01-20-2013, 02:41 PM
Updated Mcdonalds results:


Most likely fit is 92.6% (+- 0.6%) Mideast (all Caucasus Area)
and 7.4% (+- 0.6%) E. Asia (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top

Armenian= 0.933 Yakut= 0.067 or
Armenian= 0.917 Altai= 0.083 or
Armenian= 0.930 Buryat= 0.070 or
Armenian= 0.923 MongolaC= 0.077

Second most likely fit is 88.8% (+- 0.0%) Mideast (all Caucasus Area)
and 11.2% (+- 0.0%) S. Asia (all Central Asia)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top

Armenian= 0.888 Hazara= 0.112 or
Armenian= 0.888 Uygur= 0.112

It also tests, with a passable but not so good fit, as plain Turkish.

It is clearly from the Caucasus area, just not exactly one of our
three comparison populations from there (Armenian, Georgian, Adygei).

Doug McDonald

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8383/orangepulpfull201203260.png

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8383/orangepulpfull201203260.png
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6199/genomeorangepulpfull201.png


In the new update he said I am Caucasus like but not like The samples he has ( Georgian Adygei, Armenian), he also said I am not the best example of a Turk.

Su
01-20-2013, 03:04 PM
Updated Mcdonalds results:


Most likely fit is 92.6% (+- 0.6%) Mideast (all Caucasus Area)
and 7.4% (+- 0.6%) E. Asia (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top

Armenian= 0.933 Yakut= 0.067 or
Armenian= 0.917 Altai= 0.083 or
Armenian= 0.930 Buryat= 0.070 or
Armenian= 0.923 MongolaC= 0.077

Second most likely fit is 88.8% (+- 0.0%) Mideast (all Caucasus Area)
and 11.2% (+- 0.0%) S. Asia (all Central Asia)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top

Armenian= 0.888 Hazara= 0.112 or
Armenian= 0.888 Uygur= 0.112

[B]It also tests, with a passable but not so good fit, as plain Turkish.

It is clearly from the Caucasus area, just not exactly one of our
three comparison populations from there (Armenian, Georgian, Adygei).


In the new update he said I am Caucasus like but not like samples he has ( Georgian Adygei, Armenian), he also said I am not the best example of a Turk.

I will email him today and ask him what is supposed to be the best example for a Turk based on his software analyze.

orangepulp
01-20-2013, 03:05 PM
I will email him today and ask him what is supposed to be the best example for a Turk based on his software analyze.

Yea that would be great!!!

Su
01-20-2013, 03:09 PM
I sent the email like 2 min ago:


I was just wondering what combination of admixture is "typical" or "best example" for a Turk?

Also what is the are / country for the population sample for Mozabite?

Let's wait and see, how his software "calculates " the Turks :laugh:

orangepulp
01-22-2013, 05:26 AM
My aunts results:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8361/asasacu.png
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9332/sasang.png
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/5277/ananan.png


Most likely fit is 100% Armenian (Caucasus Area)
which is 100% total Mideast

The location error = 0.007628 with 1 group


The following are possible populations,

most likely at the top:


The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Armenian= 1.000


and indeed it looks very very plain Armenian.


Doug McDonald


My aunts spots on the map are the same as my spot except I have a spot in South Asia ( actually looks central Asia to me). She plots with Armenians, I plot between Turks and Georgians. Comparing our results I wonder where my dad would plot?

Loki
01-22-2013, 05:41 AM
Your aunt is on your mom's side? Then your dad must be quite high Mongoloid, I think.

Loki
01-22-2013, 05:43 AM
Let's wait and see, how his software "calculates " the Turks :laugh:

I think Turks vary ... there is probably not many 'typical Turks' as they are quite heterogenous, but I guess one goes on averages.

orangepulp
01-22-2013, 05:49 AM
Your aunt is on your mom's side? Then your dad must be quite high Mongoloid, I think.

I don't know really??

My West Asian results are higher than the average Turk but my mongolian is identical with the average Turk. I think my dad is a dominatly Anatolian and Turkic mix where as my maternal side are almost completely preTurkic. My dad must be closer to an average Turk. I have a feeling my dads mongolian is identical with mines considering that my aunt hardly scored any. My dad could be like 20% Turkic perhaps?

Yes, my aunt is my moms sister.

Loki
01-22-2013, 05:49 AM
Is it worth resending my stuff to McDonald?

orangepulp
01-22-2013, 05:52 AM
Is it worth resending my stuff to McDonald?

It is. Please send your results again and post them here.

Su
01-22-2013, 05:58 AM
Yea that would be great!!!

He didn't answer my email :cry1: :cry2:

Loki
01-22-2013, 06:07 AM
It is. Please send your results again and post them here.

Done! Now the wait :D

Azalea
01-22-2013, 07:40 PM
Newest McDonald Results:


Most likely fit is 23.4% (+- 4.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)

and 14.1% (+- 1.3%) E. Asia (various subcontinents)

and 62.5% (+- 4.4%) Mideast (all Iran)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Tuscan= 0.312 Yakut= 0.138 Iranian= 0.549 or

Sardinia= 0.182 Yakut= 0.133 Iranian= 0.686 or

Sardinia= 0.206 Altai= 0.170 Iranian= 0.624 or

Sardinia= 0.197 Buryat= 0.142 Iranian= 0.661 or

Italian= 0.270 Yakut= 0.135 Iranian= 0.595 or

Spain= 0.238 Yakut= 0.131 Iranian= 0.631



and is VERY interesting. You will note that that the green spot on the map is in the Caspian Sea. I;ve never seen that before. Also, on the rotating plot you are in a position that normally would indicate a very significant Native American part, but the chromosome plot is very clear that there is none ... that tiny green spot is wrong, and is actually Siberian. All this tells me
that the average should be more northerly on the map, perhaps on the Russian/Kazakhstan border. I suspect some sort of
ethnic Russian in that area with some Siberian roots.
Of course it could be some sort of complicated mix, but both
parents would still be from that general description.

Eeh? :D

The results of his program speak for themself though. :)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8213/8406717208_533600bb96_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8497/8406717210_d851bcfc01_z.jpg

evon
01-22-2013, 07:44 PM
How long ago is it since you sent it in last time Ashina? as i think i have done it 3 times now, dont want to pester him again and again if its the same results :P

PS: i fixed your broken sentences when quoting McDonald..

Azalea
01-22-2013, 07:45 PM
Probably a year or so? :P

evon
01-22-2013, 07:47 PM
Probably a year or so? :P

Thanks, i will send him all my family again as last time was Feb 2012..again thanks for letting me know! Seems he has updated his samples alot :D

Azalea
01-22-2013, 07:48 PM
Good luck. :D

Annihilus
01-22-2013, 08:11 PM
I need to resend mine because I can't find them anymore. Can someone pm me his email?

evon
01-22-2013, 08:53 PM
Turkish from near Konya:


Most likely fit is 97.5% (+- 0.3%) Mideast (all Turkish)
and 2.5% (+- 0.3%) E. Asia (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Turkish= 0.976 Japanese= 0.024 or
Turkish= 0.975 Mongolia= 0.025 or
Turkish= 0.976 North Ha= 0.024 or
Turkish= 0.975 Tu= 0.025 or
Turkish= 0.973 Buryat= 0.027 or
Turkish= 0.970 MongolaC= 0.030 or
Turkish= 0.978 South Ha= 0.022 or
Turkish= 0.976 Yakut= 0.024 or
Turkish= 0.969 Altai= 0.031 or
Turkish= 0.979 Lahu= 0.021
Second most likely fit is 97.9% (+- 1.9%) Mideast (all Turkish)
and 2.1% (+- 1.9%) S. Asia (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Turkish= 0.959 Uygur= 0.041 or
Turkish= 0.961 Hazara= 0.039 or
Turkish= 0.997 S_India= 0.003 or
Turkish= 1.000 Pathan= 0.000

This one looks Trukish or else its an amazingly close match due to being
a complicated mix. I'm giving the percentages of the various
"continents" from the chromosome paintings:

Euro 47
Mideast 46
South Asian 2
Native American 0.3 but likely really Siberian
African 1
East Asian 3

which is not unusual for that part of the world but is more mixed than
lots of Turks from Ankara, who tend to have the sum of Euro plus Mideast
nearer 97%.

Doug McDonald

http://imageshack.us/a/img832/8656/tr2bga2.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img708/6110/tr2txtbga1.png

Very much updated from last time..did not have African segments before..I think she surely has Chinese based ancestry due to her AF results giving her two Chinese cousins, but i wonder which ethnic group/s in China this is, as one is half Taiwanese i am guessing Han or another North Chinese people?

Su
01-22-2013, 09:29 PM
Ashina I m jelly of your results :cry: :D although I have got like 10 percent mongoloid he never mentions it seperately.

Azalea
01-22-2013, 09:31 PM
Yours is hidden in the Turkish and Chuvash. :P

Maleficent
01-22-2013, 09:32 PM
Most likely fit is 19.3% (+- 12.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 80.7% (+- 12.4%) Middle East (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions, most likely at the top:
English=0.159 Jewish=0.841 or
Irish=0.138 Jewish=0.862 or
French=0.521 Palestin=0.479 or
French=0.189 Jewish=0.811 or
Hungary=0.169 Jewish=0.831 or
Lithuani=0.101 Jewish=0.899 or
Finland=0.099 Jewish=0.901 or
Belorus=0.116 Jewish=0.884 or
Romania=0.243 Jewish=0.757

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7793/fairyprincesspca.png

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1862/fairyprincessmap.png

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/3482/fairyprincesschromosome.png

7eleven
01-22-2013, 10:32 PM
Im only about 1/3 West Asian but here is my McDonald map

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/5388/newarkgoldfull201209141.png

The Exiled King
01-23-2013, 01:23 PM
Im only about 1/3 West Asian but here is my McDonald map

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/5388/newarkgoldfull201209141.png

Your map is extremely similar to mine.

7eleven
01-23-2013, 10:35 PM
Your map is extremely similar to mine.

Can I see it please? :thumb001:

The Exiled King
01-24-2013, 01:58 PM
Can I see it please? :thumb001:

http://s15.postimage.org/b4ks3e7rv/bganew.png

7eleven
01-26-2013, 02:47 AM
http://s15.postimage.org/b4ks3e7rv/bganew.png

Wow damn you were right, what is your ancestry??

The Exiled King
01-26-2013, 02:59 AM
Wow damn you were right, what is your ancestry??

25% Central Italian, 25% Sicilian, then the rest is German (mostly from the Rhineland/Baden-Wurttemberg with a little bit coming from Silesia), French (mainly Alsatian), Irish, English, Welsh, and Dutch. Note: I am 2nd mostly German abt. 30-40%.

7eleven
01-26-2013, 03:11 AM
25% Central Italian, 25% Sicilian, then the rest is German (mostly from the Rhineland/Baden-Wurttemberg with a little bit coming from Silesia), French (mainly Alsatian), Irish, English, Welsh, and Dutch. Note: I am 2nd mostly German abt. 30-40%.

Ok very interesting btw. Can I please see the rest of your McDonald results?

The Exiled King
01-26-2013, 04:03 AM
Ok very interesting btw. Can I please see the rest of your McDonald results?



French= 0.558 Jewish= 0.442 or
English= 0.453 Jewish= 0.547 or
French= 0.723 Druze= 0.277 or
French= 0.749 Palestin= 0.251 or
French= 0.653 Cypriot= 0.347
Second most likely fit is 78.5% (+- 10.6%) Europe (all Southern Europe)
and 21.5% (+- 10.6%) Europe (various subcontinents)
which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Tuscan= 0.855 Lithuani= 0.145 or
Tuscan= 0.547 Romania= 0.453 or
Tuscan= 0.731 Hungary= 0.269 or
Tuscan= 0.860 Russian= 0.140 or
Tuscan= 0.829 Belorus= 0.171 or
Tuscan= 0.862 Finland= 0.138 or
Tuscan= 0.809 Irish= 0.191

http://s19.postimage.org/oam4cdh6r/Ancestry_Painting.png

Like all the other tests be it Dodecad, Eurogenes, etc. I always usually match Ashkenazi Jews obviously from my Italian/Sicilian input. I don't have any recent Jewish ancestry but I have found distant traces of Italkim ancestry.