A possible North American Union: What would be the benefits (if any) of such?

[Aemma]

Ok, motivated by a comment that Loki posted more tongue-in-cheek than anything else (I'm hoping anyway :D) , I thought I'd keep this question fairly open-ended in order to elicit as many responses as possible and not stifle discussion or healthy debate.

I'm interested in EVERYONE's responses actually; this is not meant to be limited to North Americans. In all honesty, my interest is two-fold here. Firstly, I am sincerely interested in finding out how North Americans from either side of the 49th parallel feel about this issue. All conspiracy theories aside, our politics have been heading in this direction for quite some while and that much more so since the events of 9/11. My second area of interest is to get a perspective from non-North Americans. Since participating in international fora, I've acquired the distinct impression (rightly or wrongly) that most non-North Americans have a poor concept of the separateness of Canada and the USA. This is not a criticism please understand but an observation that time has borne out on a fairly regular basis. But more important than getting a sense of non-North Americans' sense of North America, I would really be interested in eliciting your responses with respect to such a union and its (possible/potential) impact on Europe.

Ok, tall order I know but I hope that people have something to offer to this thread. And as I said, I appreciate any and all responses from any of our members. :)

Cheers and thanks. I'll wait for a few responses before I add my two-bits.

:)...Aemma

[Æmeric]

An NAU would be beneficial to one-world socialists. For people like me there would be no benefit. Another 100 million Mexicans, free to wander from the Isthmus of Tehuantapec to the Yukon.:rolleyes2: And those Canadians! I bet 9 out-of-ten of them would have voted for Obama (with the exception of Albertans). No thanks!

[Aemma]

An NAU would be beneficial to one-world socialists. For people like me there would be no benefit. Another 100 million Mexicans, free to wander from the Isthmus of Tehuantapec to the Yukon.:rolleyes2: And those Canadians! I bet 9 out-of-ten of them would have voted for Obama (with the exception of Albertans). No thanks!

LMAO! Well you know us all too well Aemeric. ;) You're right there. :D

[Piparskeggr]

My first rejoinder to such supposition is, qui bono?

Pip

[Atlas]

Aren't Mexicans in the Southwest rather pro-conservative, Æmeric ?

[Zardoz]

An NAU would be beneficial to one-world socialists. For people like me there would be no benefit. Another 100 million Mexicans, free to wander from the Isthmus of Tehuantapec to the Yukon.:rolleyes2: And those Canadians! I bet 9 out-of-ten of them would have voted for Obama (with the exception of Albertans). No thanks!

I think you're looking for the Free Republic web site; just Google "I hate Canada" and you'll find it no problem. :coffee:

[Sol Invictus]

Lou Dobbs reports on the NAU

Unconstitutional and treasonous.

T74VA3xU0EA

[Æmeric]

Aren't Mexicans in the Southwest rather pro-conservative, Æmeric ?

NO!

They may be pro-gun. But they are also pro-entitlement. They want as much welfare as those anchor-babies can provide. They are pro-immigration, since that usually means more Latinos. Though they prefer their own kind, there have been some nasty ethinc feuds in the US, e.g Mexicans vs. Salvadorans. They are pro-Hispanicization. And they are anti-Anglo-Saxon & most do not hide it.

If you mean are Mexicans social conservatives? Not really. I don't think many support gay marriage. But illegitimacy is pretty high among Mexicans. And many of them take advantage of abortion. Just because they are nominally Catholics doesn't mean they are good Catholics - whatever that is. And Catholicism in Mexico & the rest of Latina America has been mixed with pre-Columbian Aboriginal beliefs & sometimes with African religious rites.

[007]

If the Union included Mexico, no thanks, we get enough beaners as it is. Joining the US would give Canadians the Second Amendment and unrestricted access to the American market. The US would get a shitload of oil and other natural resources and 30 million mostly white people, but as Aemeric pointed out, most of them might have voted for Obama.

[Karaten]

A union would only benefit Mexico, and seriously tear down US and Canada, so the goods may be there if you are Mexican, especially if Socialist, at least for a short period of time, but for everyone else it would be disastrous.

Anyone who is Socialist and supports the union is nuts, as the cost for already in place policies to maintain those extra citizens would heavily out weigh what we gain from Mexico, not to mention what other absurdly expensive policies are about to be passed.

Right now, Liberals and Socialists use the "2% own the majority of the wealth" line. Well, just wait until that 2% becomes a majority of America and even owning a house leads you suspect to serious taxation to give handouts to the people in Mexico.

[Rudy]

It would benefit the US to dump our debt on Canada.:wink

It benefits the industrialist to have more cheap labor, and less taxes. It benefits the elites to keep the nation divided, so they can never unite.

My state has had all of it's laws translated to Spanish for several years now, but the NAU is behind schedule. In some of the big plants in the Midwest, you cannot get a job unless you can speak Spanish.

[Piparskeggr]

My bosses wouldn't like it if they heard me, but I usually answer the "do you speak Spanish" question from customers, usually from the "anchor baby" child with "escuse, no capisco" in imitation of my grandfather Antonio, or a simple "no."

All of my forebears came here from Europe to become Americans (as did Anita's), including learning the common language and trying to assimilate, while keeping a good measure of pride in where they were from.

What's so hard about that?

[Barreldriver]

If the Union included Mexico, no thanks, we get enough beaners as it is. Joining the US would give Canadians the Second Amendment and unrestricted access to the American market. The US would get a shitload of oil and other natural resources and 30 million mostly white people, but as Aemeric pointed out, most of them might have voted for Obama.

Most Americans voted for Obama. :P So what do we have to lose? A few Canadians of Anglo stock would do us well, and possibly some of those darned French speakers :D.

And, the Mexicans can stay in Central America.

[Æmeric]

Most Americans voted for Obama.
He got 52.9%, with some assistance from ACORN. A 4% swing in the other direction & he would have lost.

[Zardoz]

This Canadian of Anglo-Saxon stock prefers to stay just that - Canadian. To hell with any "North American Union"! :no no



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