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bladieblah
01-23-2013, 03:04 AM
Height: 6'3

http://st-listas.20minutos.es/images/2009-08/135385/1535268_640px.jpg?1251459708

http://www.alarab.net/data/news/2012/03/29/446233/20120329114726201110231124351732_5_1250440633.jpg

http://www.resimbul.com/sonuc/d/dovme/dovme-sozleri-ingilizce/dovme-sozleri-ingilizce-fb44a0.jpg

http://cdn.publishme.se/cdn/5-1/1678636/images/2010/lskling_72488143.jpg

http://www.source.ba/galerije/slike/turcin%205.jpg

http://www.source.ba/galerije/slike/turcin%201.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/10hj2fr.jpg

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32700000/Kivanc-Tatlitug-s-smile-turkish-actors-and-actresses-32742922-306-306.jpg

http://g.mynet.com/i/9/108426-kivanc-tatlitug--15.jpg

His name is Kivanc Tatlitug :) To me he looks almost Scandinavian..I think he would be able to pass as being a Swede actually. But he also looks like he could be Greek. But he is fully Turkish, and from the south of the country.

Äike
01-23-2013, 03:24 AM
I was to south-Turkey 2 years ago and all Turks that I saw looked like Arabs, dark-skinned etc.

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 03:26 AM
he is the reason i look turkish serials :D

he looks germanic

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 03:27 AM
I was to south-Turkey 2 years ago and all Turks that I saw looked like Arabs, dark-skinned etc.

I think it depends really. I have known some Turks who have dark hair and olive skin, but then others who are natural blondes, with hazel and even blue eyes, though they where usually from the north. I think there is a lot of variety in Turkey.

Incal
01-23-2013, 07:18 AM
The guy is genetically european. His parents moved to Turkey and he was born there.

Dengizik
01-23-2013, 07:19 AM
The guy is genetically european. His parents moved to Turkey and he was born there.

Source: ass

Incal
01-23-2013, 07:27 AM
Source: ass

It's pretty well known. They post him every once and then on anthro forums. His ancestry is Bosnian I think.

finþaų
01-23-2013, 07:33 AM
Fake blondism.

Pred. Cromagnoid with Nordoid influences.

legolasbozo
01-23-2013, 09:57 AM
The guy is genetically european. His parents moved to Turkey and he was born there.
A man from latim america know turkish man better than us. He just plaayed as a bosnian-turkish character for marketing soap operas to balkans but everybody say he has bosnian roots. Seiously what do you know about turks? İf a turk is blond then must have balkan anchestery. This guy has arabic roots, how about that? A blond arab, no way right? İ lived in adana, where is he from, get over this stereotype cliches.

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 09:59 AM
A man from latim america know turkish man better than us. He just plaayed as a bosnian-turkish character for marketing soap operas to balkans but everybody say he has bosnian roots. Seiously what do you know about turks? İf a turk is blond then must have balkan anchestery. This guy has arabic roots, how about that? A blond arab, no way right? İ lived in adana, where is he from, get over this stereotype cliches.

hos ancestors are from mostar

finþaų
01-23-2013, 10:00 AM
He is obviously not naturally blond, just look at those swarthy roots.

Turkophagos
01-23-2013, 10:05 AM
Bosnian.

That's how real Turks look like:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__8EQ7zYX1g4/SYrT4HCbbvI/AAAAAAAAAic/fHzD59H6EVo/s320/laz_burnu.jpg

Hayalet
01-23-2013, 10:08 AM
Bosnian.

That's how real Turks look like:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__8EQ7zYX1g4/SYrT4HCbbvI/AAAAAAAAAic/fHzD59H6EVo/s320/laz_burnu.jpg
That man is from Artvin and quite possibly a Laz.

The actor in the OP with his brother, btw:

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/786512/z0/01/9daf3fcc.jpg

He is obviously Bosnian while his brother is Turkish.

Siberian Cold Breeze
01-23-2013, 10:08 AM
Bosnian.

That's how real Turks look like:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__8EQ7zYX1g4/SYrT4HCbbvI/AAAAAAAAAic/fHzD59H6EVo/s320/laz_burnu.jpg

That's a Laz
Why do you make fun of your Europid brother? Shame on you :mad:

Equilibrium
01-23-2013, 10:10 AM
His father has probably Bosnian ancestry, his mother is from Adana. His mother and and his brother are really swarthy, could be Arab ancestry from his mothers side.

So he is not fully European genetically. Still his phenotype is obviously resulting from his European ancestry.

Turkophagos
01-23-2013, 10:13 AM
That's a Laz
Why do you make fun of your Europid brother? Shame on you :mad:

Laz = Muslim Georgians, so yeah, my bad.

Turks:

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/people/Abdul-Hamid%20II%20%281906%29.jpg

http://www.egedesonsoz.com/haber_images/37Z_%C4%B0lknur-Denizli.jpg

ümit
01-23-2013, 10:19 AM
It's pretty well known. They post him every once and then on anthro forums. His ancestry is Bosnian I think.

There are more than 20 threads about him in anthropology forums.
Like I said in Turkish group,just google Tatlıtuğ and Boşnak,you can see the all 23.200 results.

And watch this,in an interview he says his ancestry goes back to Bosnia and Yugoslavia;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHW0JoEgvqE

Twistedmind
01-23-2013, 10:26 AM
His eyebrows are also blonde. I dont know, he could be genuine blonde.

Hayalet
01-23-2013, 10:28 AM
Laz = Muslim Georgians, so yeah, my bad.
No, there are Muslim Georgians that are not Laz.


Turks:

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/photolib/people/Abdul-Hamid%20II%20%281906%29.jpg
Product of a lineage which did not have Turkish wives for 300 years. Had an Armenian mother himself.

Äike
01-23-2013, 10:29 AM
His eyebrows are also blonde. I dont know, he could be genuine blonde.

He has brown hair, not blond.

Twistedmind
01-23-2013, 10:30 AM
I have brown hair. And his is not brown. Hardly could pass as light brown. (on this pictures it is)

Absinthe
01-23-2013, 10:31 AM
His ancestry is Bosnian, even I know that :p

Twistedmind
01-23-2013, 10:35 AM
Hm, I did some Google query:

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24000000/K-van-Tatl-tu-kivanc-tatlitug-24002060-630-720.jpg

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/24600000/Kivanc-Tatlitug-Mavi-Jeans-kivanc-tatlitug-24613659-454-681.jpg

He have light to medium brown on this pics.

Drawing-slim
01-23-2013, 11:03 AM
So freaking what. The average turk should be better looking, for his looks are typical soap-opera face.

Onur
01-23-2013, 12:08 PM
Laz = Muslim Georgians, so yeah, my bad.

No, there are Muslim Georgians that are not Laz.
And there was 10.000s of orthodox Laz who ended up in Greece after population exchange in 1923.

Look for the early census reports between 1930-1960 in Macedonia, Greece. There was 10.000s of Laz speakers in Greece back then. Ofc stupid Turkophagos doesn't know this and thinks like all the Laz supposedly lives in Turkey.

Turkophagos
01-23-2013, 01:15 PM
And there was 10.000s of orthodox Laz who ended up in Greece after population exchange in 1923.

Look for the early census reports between 1930-1960 in Macedonia, Greece. There was 10.000s of Laz speakers in Greece back then. Ofc stupid Turkophagos doesn't know this and thinks like all the Laz supposedly lives in Turkey.

What you call "Laz" is the Pontian Greeks, who speak a Greek dialect and not a Kartvelian one. Ofc stupid Onur doesn't know that turks call all black sea people (muslim Karadenizlis, real Laz, Pontians) "Lazs".

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 02:31 PM
Some more examples of blonde Turks:

Bade Iscil:

http://i2.listal.com/image/1519201/600full-bade-iscil.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PwOwA.jpg

http://www.modakare.com/wp-content/uploads/bade-iscil.jpg

http://s.cdn.acunn.com/upload/haber/bade-iscil-400_1013496446501098ab815fa.jpg

Gizem Karaca:

http://si5.org/images/2012/03/gizem-karaca-7.jpg

http://magazimedya.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gizem-karaca.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ij3RcbVa0Ho/UL9BehFoWcI/AAAAAAAAFec/YpNke9IB9DE/s1600/gizem+karaca+foto%C4%9Fraf%C4%B1.jpg

Ozgur Cevik:

http://www.ziranbula.com/fotograf/ozgur-cevik-resimleri-1186.jpg

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/5786555/zgr+evik+ozgurey6.jpg

http://www.resimdeki.com/foto//ozgur-cevik-resimleri-794.jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9600000/ozgur-cevik-yabanci-damat-9682963-384-288.jpg

Lemon Kush
01-23-2013, 02:37 PM
All these "blonde" Turks are more than likely to Bulgarian or Yugoslav ancestors or be of full European descent and just born in Turkey.

Rastko
01-23-2013, 02:39 PM
He is from old Turkish family.

Recent Balkan roots were marketing trick.

finþaų
01-23-2013, 02:48 PM
Some more examples of blonde Turks:

Bade Iscil:

http://i2.listal.com/image/1519201/600full-bade-iscil.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PwOwA.jpg

http://www.modakare.com/wp-content/uploads/bade-iscil.jpg

http://s.cdn.acunn.com/upload/haber/bade-iscil-400_1013496446501098ab815fa.jpg

Gizem Karaca:

http://si5.org/images/2012/03/gizem-karaca-7.jpg

http://magazimedya.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gizem-karaca.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ij3RcbVa0Ho/UL9BehFoWcI/AAAAAAAAFec/YpNke9IB9DE/s1600/gizem+karaca+foto%C4%9Fraf%C4%B1.jpg

Ozgur Cevik:

http://www.ziranbula.com/fotograf/ozgur-cevik-resimleri-1186.jpg

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/5786555/zgr+evik+ozgurey6.jpg

http://www.resimdeki.com/foto//ozgur-cevik-resimleri-794.jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9600000/ozgur-cevik-yabanci-damat-9682963-384-288.jpg

At least two of these have brown hair.

Edit: at least three; Bade İşçil is peroxide-altered too.

http://i.imgur.com/jPFjSZL.jpg

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 03:09 PM
Some more blonde/light haired turks:

Gulcin Ergul:

http://imageshack.us/a/img509/4972/ggggggkb9.jpg

http://cdnvideo.cnnturk.com/Temp/Thumbnails/47858-640x480-100-0-634451320840000000-thumb.jpg

Gulben Ergen

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/010/871/0001087171_500.jpg

http://www.magazinci.com/pic_lib/bigSize/2008-09-14_gulben_ergen_fan_001.jpg

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/j4t5-PbgCnw/0.jpg

Aysun Kayaci:

http://cassetv.com/pic/artist/b/850a1e34-e53a-4a7f-855e-0ad5d94fcaa1_4f822827907002_24517819.jpg

http://www.eglencediyari.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/gelin-aysun-a-prenses-kuaforu-2747241.jpeg

http://img5.mynet.com/mgz/ece-mikrofon_640.jpg

Mustafa Kemal Atturk:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3118/2925373180_a2d2271b60.jpg

Other examples I found on google:

http://www.dizifix.com/kisi_album_img/515e4ae524a0abfa3c9fb49bb212b824l.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/3881023806_327c21b107.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2641/3880227105_348923b465.jpg

Just90
01-23-2013, 03:25 PM
Why are ppl so obsess with blondes and show that they are common in their country ? It's hilarious
You don't see that here in USA

In fact , it's been shown time after time that woman and the majority of ppl prefer swarthy Italians , Spaniards and Turkish over " blonds "
Yet ppl from those countries get so offended if you dare to mention something like that

Like I said , very funny and quite weird

Siberian Cold Breeze
01-23-2013, 03:39 PM
All these "blonde" Turks are more than likely to Bulgarian or Yugoslav ancestors or be of full European descent and just born in Turkey.

Nope
They are Turkish reptilian/shapeshifters ;)

they all turn dark after 8 :cool:

Siberian Cold Breeze
01-23-2013, 03:45 PM
Why are ppl so obsess with blondes and show that they are common in their country ? It's hilarious
You don't see that here in USA

In fact , it's been shown time after time that woman and the majority of ppl prefer swarthy Italians , Spaniards and Turkish over " blonds "
Yet ppl from those countries get so offended if you dare to mention something like that

Like I said , very funny and quite weird

We didn't open this thread ,now are the ones obsessed with blonds?

very nice indeed ..

Actually if you look at these blonds family ,usually the other members of family are not blond ..Some Turkish families have one or two blond/ more light pigmented people ,rest of them are usual types.. not a surprise..

legolasbozo
01-23-2013, 04:30 PM
You guys really weird, when there appear a blond turk you guys reacted "certainly has balkan roots." There is a guy, from my province. A small central anatolian city, i personally know him and i'm pretty sure he has no balkan roots, i can give his facebook account and he can answer you, but his english worth than me so don't use specific definitions. i'm sure you would fit him nowhere except scandinavia, so nobody would insist balkan claim. Here we go.



http://c1301.hizliresim.com/15/r/j8mzb.jpg

http://c1301.hizliresim.com/15/r/j8mu7.jpg

http://c1301.hizliresim.com/15/r/j8muw.jpg

you see, what do you think for him, where can he fit easily? İ think you guys missed the point, Turks came to Anatolia 1071, and we didn't find an evacuated or isolated area, that folks did not evaporated. there were ancient peoples in here. So your light feature turk has to be balkanian relation (Especially Bulgars, come on they are the darkest with albanians) argument is really annoying, trust me. Stop this crap please.

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 04:34 PM
bladie you probably should not use the girls as most can be fake blondes,use blonde guys

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 04:46 PM
You guys really weird, when there appear a blond turk you guys reacted "certainly has balkan roots." There is a guy, from my province. A small central anatolian city, i personally know him and i'm pretty sure he has no balkan roots, i can give his facebook account and he can answer you, but his english worth than me so don't use specific definitions. i'm sure you would fit him anywhere except scandinavia. Here we go.


İ think you guys missed the point, Turks came to Anatolia 1071, and we didn't find an evacuated or isolated area, there were ancient peoples in here. So your light feature turk has to balkanian root argument is really bullshit, trust me.

"http://c1301.hizliresim.com/15/r/j8mtj.jpg

http://c1301.hizliresim.com/15/r/j8mu7.jpg

http://c1301.hizliresim.com/15/r/j8muw.jpg

I completely agree :) I have known numerous Turks over the years with naturally blonde hair and light eyes (usually hazel/green, sometimes blue). I also find it a bit silly that there are some people who cannot comprehend that a Turkish person can be naturally blonde, or have pale skin, without definetly having lied about their ancestry and being Balkan or whatever in actuallity. In actuality the whole topic isn't really that important, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss every Turk with blond hair as being originally Balkan and being a liar, because that is just not the case.

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 07:48 PM
bladie you probably should not use the girls as most can be fake blondes,use blonde guys

I don't know about the celebrities, but as for the two girls I posted who I know, I know they both have light hair naturally. The first girl I posted who I know is a complete natural blonde, the other had very blonde hair growing up, now her hair is naturally a dark blonde/light brown shade.

Tyfani
01-23-2013, 07:49 PM
He doesnt look like Turk. He could be German or even Swedish.

Azalea
01-23-2013, 07:54 PM
I was to south-Turkey 2 years ago and all Turks that I saw looked like Arabs, dark-skinned etc.

Actually you didn't leave your hotel much. That's what you said at ABF. Yet, you keep repeating the same bullshit over and over again. So for the 10th time already: Staying one week in a Turkish resort in one touristic city where most of the 'Turks' you interacted with are Kurdish immigrants from Eastern Turkey doesn't make you an expert on Turkish phenotypes or Turkey. So please, just stick with your 'Estonians are Nordic propaganda' and stfu about Turkey.

Azalea
01-23-2013, 08:02 PM
That man is from Artvin and quite possibly a Laz.

The actor in the OP with his brother, btw:

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/786512/z0/01/9daf3fcc.jpg

He is obviously Bosnian while his brother is Turkish.

Obviously. :D

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 08:06 PM
Obviously. :D

the one got probably moms genes other fathers :D

Bridie
01-23-2013, 08:08 PM
Looks Russian to me.

Tyfani
01-23-2013, 08:10 PM
Looks Russian to me.

Could be...

Mans not hot
01-23-2013, 08:10 PM
Looks Russian to me.
He look like depigmented Balkan Slavic than Russian.

Tyfani
01-23-2013, 08:12 PM
No, he doesnt look Balkanic at all.

legolasbozo
01-23-2013, 08:15 PM
You are the one that is full of crap, middle eastern shitface.

http://i.qkme.me/3osrj1.jpg

Twistedmind
01-23-2013, 08:22 PM
No, he doesnt look Balkanic at all.

Acctually he does. That's how fair South Slavs look a like. ;)

Azalea
01-23-2013, 08:25 PM
Too many threads about Kivanc. Time for a new Southern Turk. Anyone wants to classify this Southern Turkish man?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1317114#post1317114

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 09:36 PM
His mother and his brother:

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/sisadfs/kivo.jpg

I think it is pretty obvious his mother is of Turkish descent. Tatlitug is also a Turkish surname, so I'm pretty sure his father is Turkish too.

Here's proof it is a Turkish surname:

http://lastnames.myheritage.com/last-name/tatl%C4%B1tu%C4%9F

Based on data from around the world, it says on myheritage.com that 100% of the data they have on people with the last name Tatiltug are from people who originate in Turkey.

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 09:39 PM
His mother and his brother:

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/sisadfs/kivo.jpg

I think it is pretty obvious his mother is of Turkish descent. Tatlitug is also a Turkish surname, so I'm pretty sure his father is Turkish too.

Here's proof it is a Turkish surname:

http://lastnames.myheritage.com/last-name/tatl%C4%B1tu%C4%9F

Based on data from around the world, it says on myheritage.com that 100% of the data they have on people with the last name Tatiltug are from people who originate in Turkey.

his father looks 100% bosnian though as i have seen pictures of him

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 09:40 PM
http://www.wang-chang.com/phpmyadmin/locale/fi/kivanc-tatlitug-brother-name-697.jpg

Him as a teenager, pretty obvious he is a natural blonde.

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 09:41 PM
his father looks 100% bosnian though as i have seen pictures of him

Maybe his father is Bosnian, but it's a bit odd that he would have such a Turkish surname, but who knows.

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 09:43 PM
Maybe his father is Bosnian, but it's a bit odd that he would have such a Turkish surname, but who knows.

Most bosniaks changed names after they came to Turkey

Tyfani
01-23-2013, 09:44 PM
He took after his mom obviously

Virtuous
01-23-2013, 09:45 PM
Picking an exception from the average looking people in a Country.

Claiming he's typical.

????

Profit.

TheMagnificent
01-23-2013, 09:50 PM
his father looks 100% bosnian though as i have seen pictures of him

His father:

http://galeri.milliyet.com.tr/2009/12/4Unlulerin_aile_albumu/6.jpg

Doesn't look typical Bosnian to me; at least not 100%. I would rather guess him as Tatar. But whatever, this has been discussed too often already. :p


Picking an exception from the average looking people in a Country.

Claiming he's typical.

????

Profit.

Nobody does?

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 09:52 PM
His father:

http://galeri.milliyet.com.tr/2009/12/4Unlulerin_aile_albumu/6.jpg

Doesn't look typical Bosnian to me; at least not 100%. I would rather guess him as Tatar. But whatever, this has been discussed to often already. :p

I am sure i know better how typical bosniaks looks like,he looks like yourt average bosniak of 60-70 years

Tyfani
01-23-2013, 09:52 PM
I thought his father was the darker one, if its this one, then there is great resemblance.

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 09:55 PM
I thought his father was the darker one, if its this one, then there is great resemblance.

if his father did not look like this,i am sure i would say his mom cheated :D:picard1:

Virtuous
01-23-2013, 09:56 PM
Are blondes so rare in Turkey that it becomes a fierce forum debate :laugh:?

Hurrem sultana
01-23-2013, 09:58 PM
Are blondes so rare in Turkey that it becomes a fierce forum debate :laugh:?

no i am sure not but all i say is he looks bosnian

Dengizik
01-23-2013, 09:58 PM
Are blondes so rare in Turkey that it becomes a fierce forum debate :laugh:?

Says half ayrab xD

I heard people who knows arabic can understand maltese too xD

Virtuous
01-23-2013, 10:01 PM
Says half ayrab xD

I heard people who knows arabic can understand maltese too xD

Oh my..my, did I hit a wrong nerve? Maybe you are genetically and culturally not European enough to join the European Union? I know that feel...OH WAIT, I DON'T! :D

Azalea
01-23-2013, 10:01 PM
Are blondes so rare in Turkey that it becomes a fierce forum debate :laugh:?

Well blondes a la Kivanc are definitely not that common but the reason for these threads and discussions to get this fierce is a stereotype getting crushed rather than blondes being that rare.

bladieblah
01-23-2013, 10:03 PM
http://1.2.3.13/bmi/img25.imageshack.us/img25/9127/kivofamilyha2.jpg

His father on the far right. Bear in mind, often children will take after one parent a lot more than the other.
Take this part Cypriot British TV presenter:

http://media.mademan.com/chickipedia/uploaded_photos/4/4b/jasmine-harman-165570_thumb_585x795.jpeg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5mTKQBIx4bg/TI46koxFgCI/AAAAAAAAAIs/ISSjrkKrG9Y/s1600/XJasmine+Harman_2.JPG

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ld/karate_kid_london_premiere_arrivals_5_150710/jasmine_harman_5514463.jpg

http://www.aplaceinthesun.com/Portals/2/Skins/apitsorange//coverflow-data/celebs/jasmine/Jasmine-Harman-8.jpg

Clearly she looks very European, but here is her mother:

http://mendyour.co.uk/hobson/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/jasmine-harmen-photo.png

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/jasmine_with_mum_second_500.jpg

http://abelmoir.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/jasmine-mother.jpg?w=490

http://live-imagecollect.s3.amazonaws.com/preview/2036/570bddec250992e

Same thing goes for this British girlband member Natasha Hamilton:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KBLFBdZsHYg/T-O464cc6qI/AAAAAAAABZM/3Ik7phg9CfY/s1600/Atomic+Kitten+wallpapers+05.JPG

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00368/SNF0901CFBB_368624a.jpg
http://www.mabinty.com/m-pages/natasha_hamilton/902hd_Natasha_Hamilton_nha018.JPG

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/AyQoqaO0S0g/0.jpg

With her parents:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/526/50478787eb9.png


His father I think could pass for being Turkish. His eye shape and facial features remind me a lot of the father of a Turkish friend I had. Added to that, his father has a typical Turkish surname. I think his father is probably a light Turk, and he has taken after him a lot, lot more so than his mother. These things happen. I hardly look anything like my mother

Loki
01-23-2013, 10:04 PM
I was to south-Turkey 2 years ago and all Turks that I saw looked like Arabs, dark-skinned etc.

In Central Anatolia and Northern Anatolia the people are lighter.

Mans not hot
01-23-2013, 10:05 PM
Most of these blondes wouldn't consider as blondes by Polish standards.

iNird
01-23-2013, 10:10 PM
I have twin brothers and one of them is blonde haired Nordid type and the other one is a darker hair and swarthier Pontid-Dinarid type.

BTW, the Turkish actor's brother looks like a gypsy IMO.

Azalea
01-23-2013, 10:11 PM
His brother looks just typical Eastern/Southern Turkish. Quite Mid Eastern. Nothing Gypsy looking about him.

Incal
01-23-2013, 11:47 PM
Oh my..my, did I hit a wrong nerve? Maybe you are genetically and culturally not European enough to join the European Union? I know that feel...OH WAIT, I DON'T! :D

To be a supposed orthodox FYROMian he's kissing muslim turkish balls really bad. Something fishy in here... and I'm not talking about the balls xD

Midori
01-24-2013, 01:32 AM
To be a supposed orthodox FYROMian he's kissing muslim turkish balls really bad. Something fishy in here... and I'm not talking about the balls xD

I doubt he's Macedonian, he seems like a troll. And his name sounds Islamic.

Probably a Turk or Albanian from Macedonia.

Dacul
01-24-2013, 01:57 AM
From the turkic tribes that settled in Romania,cumans were darker haired and eyed and maybe a little dark skinned (but take into consideration that they were north and east asians,so dark means more light than a southern european) and pechenegs that were very light skinned,blue eyed and blonde.
The current population of Turkey are mostly genetically not turks but southern europeans mixed with caucasians.
But I think there are still people in Turkey that preserve the original lightness of old turks,but very very few.
Also,in Turkey when it was Byzantine Empire was the varangian guard and it seems some ancestry from those remained also.

Hurrem sultana
01-24-2013, 02:25 AM
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5221/5770289265_2883f975af_z.jpg


she is very typical i think`

Dacul
01-24-2013, 02:29 AM
^
She has amber eyes.
It is said that this eye color is more encountered at caucasian people.

Dacul
01-24-2013, 02:31 AM
Here are some real turks,more exactly some altaians:
http://turk-media.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Altaians.jpg
Turkey,no offense,are no turks.

Twistedmind
01-24-2013, 02:33 AM
Varangians were Eastern Slavs, Norsmen and Englishmen.

Siberian Cold Breeze
01-24-2013, 05:18 PM
Dengizik is really a very Islamic name, Attila's son :rolleyes:
So is Oktay ( Turkish form of Ögedey -Ogedai):thumb001:

bladieblah
01-24-2013, 11:30 PM
bump

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 12:32 AM
This acctor had admited he has albanian blood, maybe that explains why he is white, but the people in turkey are heavily mixed, his brother looks like a gypsy.

Hoca
04-30-2013, 12:37 AM
His father is Bosniak and his mother Turkish.

tEhSaint
04-30-2013, 12:37 AM
^ yeah that's true, there is a family pic where his bro looks like a gypo.

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 12:40 AM
However he is a big tool of erdogan's propaganda with those turkish serials that have conquered europe, especially the fucked up wogy penislua of balkan

ChocolateFace
04-30-2013, 12:42 AM
Noric/CM

Looks Albanian. Good chance he has Albanian roots.

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 12:44 AM
Noric/CM

Looks Albanian. Good chance he has Albanian roots.

He is turkish, there are 10 million '' albanians'' in turkey who are the biggest turkish nationalists.

Hoca
04-30-2013, 12:47 AM
LOL, Albanians claim him too? Albanians are not very known for being white.

Only famous Albanian in Turkey I know is Hakan
http://www.nkfu.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hakan-sukur-7.jpg
Doesn't look white to me. Generally Slav look more stereotypical white than Albanians.

Guapo
04-30-2013, 12:48 AM
LOL, Albanians claim him too? Albanians are not very known for being white.

Only famous Albanian in Turkey I know
Doesn't look white to me. Generally Slav look more stereotypical white than Albanians.

Lol real Albanians are woggy like Greeks. Blonde Alboz are Albanized Slavs. Hakan looks typical Albanian

wvwvw
04-30-2013, 12:50 AM
Noric/CM

Looks Albanian. Good chance he has Albanian roots.

He looks rather Serb. But his brother looks Albanian I agree.

ChocolateFace
04-30-2013, 12:51 AM
He looks more Albanian then Slavic

ChocolateFace
04-30-2013, 12:59 AM
This guy looks like Albanian Mergim Doqaj

http://i.imgur.com/sB4PidG.jpg


This is an aryan/germanic appearance that is common among Albanians. Not an Asiatic Slavic appearance.

wvwvw
04-30-2013, 01:02 AM
This guy looks like Albanian Mergim Doqaj

http://i.imgur.com/sB4PidG.jpg


This is an aryan/germanic appearance that is common among Albanians. Not an Asiatic Slavic appearance.

Looks like an Albanized Greek :chin:

tEhSaint
04-30-2013, 01:03 AM
Looks like an Albanized Greek :chin:

Albanization, coz he is swarthy eh? :D

Issy
04-30-2013, 01:05 AM
This acctor had admited he has albanian blood, maybe that explains why he is white, but the people in turkey are heavily mixed, his brother looks like a gypsy.

Really where? Seriously this claiming everything to be Nordic/Albanian is getting ridiculous. Who the hell are you trying to claim Turks anyway?

The Lawspeaker
04-30-2013, 01:05 AM
Alright you lot. Knock it off. I am closing this thread for the time being. I will open it at my own discretion.

The Lawspeaker
04-30-2013, 01:09 AM
Alright you lot. I am reopening the thread and the first that slips up: I'll string you up you by the balls. Got it ? O.K kids, go and play again.

ChocolateFace
04-30-2013, 01:14 AM
Looks like an Albanized Greek :chin:

You Greeks look nothing like this at all.

This is a common Albanian appearance.

He is Kosovar Albanian.

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 01:18 AM
looooool mergim doqaj hos nothing to do with orthodox turks



32666

Guapo
04-30-2013, 01:37 AM
You Greeks look nothing like this at all.

This is a common Albanian appearance.

He is Kosovar Albanian.

who?

Guapo
04-30-2013, 01:39 AM
looooool mergim doqaj hos nothing to do with orthodox turks



32666

he looks like a half-depigmented paki.

Wheres your pic, pussy??

ChocolateFace
04-30-2013, 01:39 AM
who?

The Albanian guy I posted earlier.

wvwvw
04-30-2013, 01:40 AM
who?

We look nothing like Hakan. We look like this

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zsWZyMDOu-0/ToTl27gecQI/AAAAAAAAhGk/vJWhwlS9HZ4/s1600/2.jpg

rashka
04-30-2013, 02:10 AM
LOL, Albanians claim him too? Albanians are not very known for being white.

Only famous Albanian in Turkey I know is Hakan
http://www.nkfu.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hakan-sukur-7.jpg
Doesn't look white to me. Generally Slav look more stereotypical white than Albanians.

Compare with this Turk with slavic roots from Serbia.
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/_np/3224/8193224.jpg

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 02:15 AM
We look nothing like Hakan. We look like this

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zsWZyMDOu-0/ToTl27gecQI/AAAAAAAAhGk/vJWhwlS9HZ4/s1600/2.jpg

nooo too white for you

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 02:16 AM
Compare with this Turk with slavic roots from Serbia.
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/_np/3224/8193224.jpg

must be a slavicised albanian or hungarian

Guapo
04-30-2013, 12:11 PM
must be a slavicised albanian or hungarian

:confused: you're so stupid and probably swarthier than Araberori

wvwvw
04-30-2013, 04:15 PM
:confused: you're so stupid and probably swarthier than Araberori

One of the most racist Albanians in this forum posted his pic and he looked literally gypsy. So I had to laugh hard at how this gypsy was calling everyone gypsy all this time. It can't be a coincidence, the swarthier the more racist an Albo becomes.

sido
04-30-2013, 04:17 PM
he is Bosniak

mr. logan
04-30-2013, 04:25 PM
West baltid semitic.

Hoca
04-30-2013, 05:01 PM
he is Bosniak

yes, but only partly

he is half Bosniak, half Turkish

Hayalet
04-30-2013, 05:06 PM
His Bosniak ancestry might be quarter rather than half: He says his paternal grandmother was from Sarajevo, so probably Bosniak. Paternal grandfather from the former Yugoslavia too, but it's not clear where exactly.

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 05:08 PM
One of the most racist Albanians in this forum posted his pic and he looked literally gypsy. So I had to laugh hard at how this gypsy was calling everyone gypsy all this time. It can't be a coincidence, the swarthier the more racist an Albo becomes.

When a greek nigger like you called Arberori a gypsy ( with pale skin and regular features) that means that greeks are 130% turks, in fact half of you are arabids, I have seen thousands of you.... that means that you arabid are hypocrite, arabids should be honest, because they are the demoformed creatures of nature

Kastrioti1443
04-30-2013, 05:09 PM
:confused: you're so stupid and probably swarthier than Araberori

Arbeori is whiter than you, I do not get this reactions from you serbian negros, you are the darkest people of balkan and you still dare to talk.

I am a nordic god in front of serbs.

denz
04-30-2013, 05:10 PM
, he is both Bosnia and turkish root made him famous.

Ianus
01-04-2014, 06:30 PM
Nordic+CM

Mehmet
01-04-2014, 06:33 PM
He's Bosnian from Mostar.
Not Turk.

Looks sub-nordid.

Rattata
01-04-2014, 06:35 PM
He's Bosnian from Mostar.
Not Turk.

Looks sub-nordid.

His mother is turkish. He doesn't look balkanite. Probaply some light balkanite with turk med-turanid features created this look. He has non-dinaric look.

lianohortaroudia
04-27-2014, 12:02 AM
To all the people denying he is of Bosnian descent, there you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHW0JoEgvqE

He didn't say anything about being Albanian so please stop claiming him :) He said he Bosnian and Yugoslavian descent and his father's side of the family came to Turkey after World War 2. His mother's side is Turkish though.

Here he is when he was a little boy :P No, his hair isn't dyed, you can see his childhood pictures
http://www.turknostalji.com/galeriler/2/kivanc-tatlitugun-cocukluk-resmi-859.jpg
http://s.acunn.com/upload/galeri/1_210811569050210c3973952.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JmpmqoL-1cs/UfnyBDTVfpI/AAAAAAAABTs/0epkduTccnw/s1600/52514.jpg

He also has a blonde sister named Melis.

Ivan Kramskoï
05-10-2014, 11:54 AM
Must probably have slavic blood in his veins, perhaps due to the slave trade from the balkans or muslims balkanites immigrants in the beginning of the 20th century.

Leon_C
05-10-2014, 11:59 AM
Nordid and Faelid, looks slimilar to David Beckham in the first photo.

Chichic
05-10-2014, 12:08 PM
He is Bosnian and not Turkish. His name is Kivanc Tatlitug. He looks South Slavic.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
05-10-2014, 12:08 PM
looks nordic to me

Danishmend
05-10-2014, 12:10 PM
I'm tired of seeing this guy every anthroforum i go, seriously

Kemalisté
05-10-2014, 12:14 PM
I'm tired of seeing this guy every anthroforum i go, seriously

Seeing Blonde and blue-eyed Turks make these racist scums really mad, which makes me laugh my ass off. :D

Danishmend
05-10-2014, 12:19 PM
Even some Afghans have Nordic traits, what's all the fuss about?

Chichic
05-10-2014, 12:20 PM
Seeing Blonde and blue-eyed Turks make these racist scums really mad, which makes me laugh my ass off. :D

No, he's Bosnian, not Turkish.

Kemalisté
05-10-2014, 12:22 PM
No, he's Bosnian, not Turkish.

He's a Turkish citizen who was born in Turkey. Butthurt much? with that mentality %90 of the population of USA cannot be considered American. Now go and blow your own small dick, fag.

He's only half-Bosnian btw.

wvwvw
05-10-2014, 12:26 PM
No, he's Bosnian, not Turkish.

He's Turkish by blood too. Isn't his maternal side Turkish from central Turkey ?

Danishmend
05-10-2014, 12:28 PM
No, he's Bosnian, not Turkish.
He is a Turkish citizen and also half-Turkish by blood. But you are not German at all

Chichic
05-10-2014, 12:48 PM
He's Turkish by blood too. Isn't his maternal side Turkish from central Turkey ?

No, he's obviously Bosnian and he just claims to be Turkish due to his Turkish audience.

Alphawolf
05-10-2014, 12:49 PM
He is Bosnian and not Turkish. His name is Kivanc Tatlitug. He looks South Slavic.

His great grandmother was from Bosnia. That does not make im Bosnian at all. He's Turkish!

wvwvw
05-10-2014, 12:55 PM
No, he's obviously Bosnian and he just claims to be Turkish due to his Turkish audience.

His mother looks Turkish

Chichic
05-10-2014, 12:56 PM
His great grandmother was from Bosnia. That does not make im Bosnian at all. He's Turkish!

No, he looks Bosnian, not Turkish. He is of Bosnian descent.

Alphawolf
05-10-2014, 01:12 PM
No, he looks Bosnian, not Turkish. He is of Bosnian descent.

No, he looks Proto-Turkish. I would like to frame his Turkish face and put him in a glass cabinet in the turkish-museum.

Sky earth
05-10-2014, 01:27 PM
No, he looks Proto-Turkish. I would like to frame his Turkish face and put him in a glass cabinet in the turkish-museum.

Lol at "Proto-Turkish" as we don't even know how the first Turks look like

Chichic
05-10-2014, 01:28 PM
No, he looks Proto-Turkish. I would like to frame his Turkish face and put him in a glass cabinet in the turkish-museum.

No, he looks Bosnian, but I can see a slight Turkish influence as well.

http://clubs.pathfinder.gr/getphoto.php?album=369794&pic_id=1

Chichic
05-10-2014, 02:06 PM
Even some Afghans have Nordic traits, what's all the fuss about?

Because Turks are normally not Dalofaelid + Nordid.

Danishmend
05-10-2014, 02:16 PM
Because Turks are normally not Dalofaelid + Nordid.

As i said earlier, i hope he fucks your mother and gets her pregnant so that your wet dream (having nordic siblings) may come true

Azalea
05-11-2014, 04:25 PM
No, he's Bosnian, not Turkish.

Question, are you only claiming him as Bosnian or the rest of his family too?

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/786512/z0/01/9daf3fcc.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E7xoPFH0ow8/UUSlUgNILeI/AAAAAAAACbM/kK34IQ_8YGU/s1600/kivo.jpg

Xanthias
05-11-2014, 04:38 PM
do I dream or has he armenoid influences ?

and he isn't really handsome.

Chichic
05-12-2014, 04:05 AM
Question, are you only claiming him as Bosnian or the rest of his family too?

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/786512/z0/01/9daf3fcc.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-E7xoPFH0ow8/UUSlUgNILeI/AAAAAAAACbM/kK34IQ_8YGU/s1600/kivo.jpg

No, but he has mentioned in an interview that his grandparents were Yugoslavs which have moved to Turkey.

Azalea
05-13-2014, 09:49 AM
'No' is not an answer to my question.

His paternal ancestry is from the Balkans indeed, his mother however is plain Turkish from Anatolia. When someone mentioned this to you, you disagreed and answered like this:


No, he's obviously Bosnian and he just claims to be Turkish due to his Turkish audience.

So, after seeing his dark family members, I ask you, is his mother and brother also obviously Bosnian who claim to be Turkish due to his Turkish audience?

Ultra
05-13-2014, 10:11 AM
Strange. He must be(partly) the result of some ancient genetic throwback.

Hadouken
05-13-2014, 10:36 AM
Strange. He must be(partly) the result of some ancient genetic throwback.

or maybe it is due to the fact that Turks are not exactly Nigerians or Indonesians ?

I have seen a lot of siblings like this ...nothing unusual

Kakasoids and such yao

Ultra
05-13-2014, 11:15 AM
or maybe it is due to the fact that Turks are not exactly Nigerians or Indonesians ?

I have seen a lot of siblings like this ...nothing unusual

Kakasoids and such yao
Blond Turks are a FUCKING MINORITY. Seriously. I've never seen a blond Turk in real-life personally and I have met and seen a fuckload of Turks. This is usually what they look like.

http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2100-2/photos/1370381934-turkish-people-protest-in-solidarity-with-ankara-demonstrators_2120112.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg

http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/3500-7/photos/1387922621-turkish-people-ask-government-to-resign_3555737.jpg


Almost all Turks here like to talk about how many blonde Turks there are and how they have blond Turk relatives yet they themselves are all SWARTHY OR CHINKY-EYED AS FUCK.

Hadouken
05-13-2014, 11:26 AM
Blond Turks are a FUCKING MINORITY. Seriously. I've never seen a blond Turk in real-life personally and I have met and seen a fuckload of Turks. This is usually what they look like.

http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2100-2/photos/1370381934-turkish-people-protest-in-solidarity-with-ankara-demonstrators_2120112.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Turkish_people_in_Belgium.jpg

http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/3500-7/photos/1387922621-turkish-people-ask-government-to-resign_3555737.jpg


Almost all Turks here like to talk about how many blonde Turks there are and how they have blond Turk relatives yet they themselves are all SWARTHY OR CHINKY-EYED AS FUCK.

of course people like Kivanc Tatlitug are not typical

but light people are not as atypical as ignorant westerners think either

and I think I know and have seen more Turks than you so you can believe me

anyway the fact of the matter is that most turks dont even care about blondeness ....they neither judge it negatively in general people are just how they are but darker men are seen more masculine (especially by females) in general compared to western blonde men that is a fact so you blondies are not seen as highly as you think and shouldnt assume that turks or other west asian people are admiring you

only because you guys think that you are "Übermensch" it doesnt mean that others agree and want to be like you .....not everybody is like the nihilist / zara / übermensch

so chill bro

Ultra
05-13-2014, 11:49 AM
of course people like Kivanc Tatlitug are not typical

but light people are not as atypical as ignorant westerners think either

and I think I know and have seen more Turks than you so you can believe me

anyway the fact of the matter is that most turks dont even care about blondeness ....they neither judge it negatively in general people are just how they are but darker men are seen more masculine (especially by females) that is a fact so you blondies are not seen as highly as you think

only because you guys think that you are Übermensch it doesnt mean that others agree and want to be like you .....not everybody is like the nihilist / zara / übermensch

so chill bro
I never said anything about superiority or überness here. But I noticed a tendency here on this forum for Turks to want to "whitewash" themselves and to insult users from the Caucasus, Iran and a few others based on their supposedly much more darker pigmentation and exotic features. In reality Turks are just as swarthy if not swarthier compared to mentioned countries and they overlap quite a lot with the other Middle-Eastern countries too in terms of phenotype. I just find it pathetic especially when they start talking about how "blonde Turks" is not a rare sight.

Danishmend
05-13-2014, 11:58 AM
I never said anything about superiority or überness here. But I noticed a tendency here on this forum for Turks to want to "whitewash" themselves and to insult users from the Caucasus, Iran and a few others based on their supposedly much more darker pigmentation and exotic features. In reality Turks are just as swarthy if not swarthier compared to mentioned countries and they overlap quite a lot with the other Middle-Eastern countries too in terms of phenotype. I just find it pathetic especially when they start talking about how "blonde Turks" is not a rare sight.

I've yet to see a single Turk doing such things, you sound like an adolescent girl who thinks everyone is jealous of her, everyone wants to be like her

Ultra
05-13-2014, 12:02 PM
I've never seen a single Turk doing such things, you sound like an adolescent girl who thinks everyone is jealous of her, everyone wants to be like her
Then you need a pair of new glasses, grandpa.

Hadouken
05-13-2014, 12:04 PM
I never said anything about superiority or überness here. But I noticed a tendency here on this forum for Turks to want to "whitewash" themselves and to insult users from the Caucasus, Iran and a few others based on their supposedly much more darker pigmentation and exotic features. In reality Turks are just as swarthy if not swarthier compared to mentioned countries and they overlap quite a lot with the other Middle-Eastern countries too in terms of phenotype. I just find it pathetic especially when they start talking about how "blonde Turks" is not a rare sight.

it seemed as if you tried to say that they want to be associated with you thats why I mentioned überness etc. which is not rarerly used in this forum ;) if I misunderstood you then I apologize

however only because there are a few turks here who do have some sort of silly agenda you shouldnt assume that most turks think that way

Like I said blondeness is not a big issue at all but there are definitely more light pigmented people in turkey than westerners generally think but probably less than the few idiots you are talking about claim and the fact that there ARE light people is neither a bad nor a good thing...it just IS and like I said people are just how they are ...it would be boring if we all looked the same . And btw. : being "light" or "blonde" is also quite objective ...I mean you will hardly find people that look like graham in turkey lol

Danishmend
05-13-2014, 12:09 PM
Then you need a pair of new glasses, grandpa.

You should not make things up instead

Chichic
05-13-2014, 02:13 PM
Strange. He must be(partly) the result of some ancient genetic throwback.

Yes, from his Yugoslav grandparents.

Prisoner Of Ice
05-13-2014, 07:26 PM
Any blond turk is just leftover from thousands of years ago or imported baltic/greek slave remnant.

Kiyant
05-13-2014, 07:29 PM
Any blond turk is just leftover from thousands of years ago or imported baltic/greek slave remnant.

Not really

Peikko
05-13-2014, 07:38 PM
Does anyone know the story of Semih Kaya, the football player? Does he have Balkan ancestry or something? He looks very northern, even has a light beard.
http://www.tff.org/Resources/TFF/Images/00000013/TamSaha/96-Ekim-2012/Semih-Kaya-4.jpg

Also, another European looking Turk is Tchéky Karyo. He usually plays French in movies. He's half Greek:
http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/4/13/14/4/@/61614-tcheky-karyo-637x0-1.jpg

Danishmend
05-13-2014, 08:12 PM
Any blond turk is just leftover from thousands of years ago or imported baltic/greek slave remnant.

Brilliant post professor, just like this one


Because they have no real achievements to claim. Blacks in America can't even really claim Africa, being some semitic tribes who moved into africa 2k-3k years ago and darkened up when they mixed with pygmies. Arabs can claim nothing at all.

Greeks are not famous for their blonde hair either, you must be confusing them with Hollywood actors from the movie '300'. It's actually the other way around

Xanthias
05-13-2014, 08:23 PM
I never said anything about superiority or überness here. But I noticed a tendency here on this forum for Turks to want to "whitewash" themselves and to insult users from the Caucasus, Iran and a few others based on their supposedly much more darker pigmentation and exotic features. In reality Turks are just as swarthy if not swarthier compared to mentioned countries and they overlap quite a lot with the other Middle-Eastern countries too in terms of phenotype. I just find it pathetic especially when they start talking about how "blonde Turks" is not a rare sight.

I can't aggre more with this post, 1000 likes for this, and I bet Turks in Germany aren't there for "whitewashing" themselfes.

ALSh
05-13-2014, 08:36 PM
Propably he has Albanian or Bosnian roots.

Sikeliot
05-13-2014, 08:54 PM
He is probably half Bosnian, Albanian or Greek.

Danishmend
05-13-2014, 09:02 PM
I can't aggre more with this post, 1000 likes for this, and I bet Turks in Germany aren't there for "whitewashing" themselfes.

That was a nice blowjob Lord Xerxes



he's momy is Rum (Anatolian christian). The Rums are different than greek . Greek are Yunan people . Rum are Anatolian people. (Pontians called theirself Rum)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BBm

No she isn't, moron

Danishmend
05-13-2014, 09:10 PM
He is probably half Bosnian, Albanian or Greek.

This must be the 10.000th thread about him on anthroforas (all of them created by non-Turks, interestingly) and you still pretend that you don't know he is 1/4 (or 1/2) Bosniak. I know he doesn't look typical Turk, but i also know he doesn't look Greek/Albanian at all either

lianohortaroudia
05-15-2014, 09:35 PM
He never said he is Albanian or Greek.