Jackson's DNA Tribes Results

[Jackson]

Did this some time ago, so it's the old version. Realised i didn't post these here before. Doesn't make a great deal of sense, it seems to get me as northern European but that's about it. The breakdown seems very similar to Dodecad V3, if Indus Valley is included as an extra, similar to Gedrosia component.

Not very useful overall, unfortunately.

98.34% European
1.66% Middle Eastern
0.00% Native American
0.00% Sub-Saharan African
0.00% South Asian
0.00% East Asian
0.00% North Asian

51.35% Northwest European
22.43% Iberian
12.82% Baltic-Urals
8.48% Indus Valley
1.97% North African
1.77% Caucasus-Anatolian
1.17% Arabian

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[Albion]

1.66% wog. GTFO. :D
It's probably Neolithic.

I'm waiting for my FTDNA ones back, they're pretty slow. I should know by the end of February.

[Cristiano viejo]

Let's see if I understand this...
According that... are you not white? :confused:

And the Iberian component, from where come (I know, from Iberia, but WHY?)? :confused:

[Mans not hot]

Let's see if I understand this...
According that... are you not white? :confused:
What kind of stupid question is that? ''White' term is meaningless.

[Atlantic Islander]

Let's see if I understand this...
According that... are you not white? :confused:

And the Iberian component, from where come (I know, from Iberia, but WHY?)? :confused:

:picard1:

You're kidding right? You should see what Spanish and Portuguese score on it. You would not be pleased.

[Lábaru]

22.43% Übermensch/Conquistador, congratulations :)

[Atlantic Islander]

Not very useful overall, unfortunately.



I agree.

[Jackson]

1.66% wog. GTFO. :D
It's probably Neolithic.

I'm waiting for my FTDNA ones back, they're pretty slow. I should know by the end of February.

Hehe yeah might be. I know from other tests i have the most MENA show up out of all my family - It gets less with every generation lol. Although it's possible there is some distant Italian, French or German ancestry on my mother's side.

Hopefully you will get the results back soon. You should start a thread where we can guess your Y-DNA and MT-DNA :P. Will be pretty cool when you do get them back though.

[Cristiano viejo]

What kind of stupid question is that? ''White' term is meaningless.

If you say it... :rolleyes:
white term will be meaningless for you, not for me :thumb001:

[Mans not hot]

If you say it... :rolleyes:
white term will be meaningless for you, not for me :thumb001:
Seriously? You are hilarious. xD

[Jackson]

Let's see if I understand this...
According that... are you not white? :confused:

And the Iberian component, from where come (I know, from Iberia, but WHY?)? :confused:

Haha, well according to the heat map i'm most similar to the reddest and orange dots, and least to the blue and purple. I'm most distant from Mbuti peoples. Although it's quite inaccurate, as apparently i'm just as likely to be Belarusian as Irish or British - Top matches lol. The worldwide thing with the dots seems the least inaccurate as it seems to put me in or near the British Isles.

Well the component for Iberia looks to cover much of the Mediterranean, and it seems similar to the Mediterranean component in Dodecad V3, and the NW Euro is similar to the West Euro in Dodecad V3, and the Baltic-Urals similar to East Euro. The Indus valley is a bit odd, but could be equivalent to 'Gedrosia' component in some calculators.

[Jackson]

22.43% Übermensch/Conquistador, congratulations :)

Thank you good sir. :thumb001:

[Jackson]

Thanks for the comments.

It's broadly similar to some other tools, but not as good. Seeing as you can use the GEDmatch tools for free if you already have data, then this seems a bit not worth it. But they have updated it since so it should be better.

Anyway, more information is always useful. :)

Edit: Although looking at it, the 'dots' map places me as Dutch, which is the same as in Dodecad and Eurogenes generally speaking. It's like a lower-resolution version of those i guess.

[Damião de Góis]

Howcome you're so far from England on the similarity table? Any theories?

[Albion]

Howcome you're so far from England on the similarity table? Any theories?

Yes, DNA tribes is crap and widely acknowledged as such.

[Jackson]

Howcome you're so far from England on the similarity table? Any theories?

Most likely what Albion says to be honest. I know i'm a bit atypical for English anyway, but they usually come within my top 3-4 populations at least, being more likely to be Belarusian, Lithuanian, Scandinavian or Italian than English is a bit mad. :tongue

I did spend some time looking over this and trying to rationalize why this might be, but couldn't come to any sensible conclusion.

[Atlantic Islander]

Yes, DNA tribes is crap and widely acknowledged as such.

THIS.

[Artek]

You no English, Slavic brotha

[Jackson]

You no English, Slavic brotha

Hehe :D

Well it looks like i have some eastern European ancestry somewhere (on all the tests), so maybe i should add Slavic to my meta ethnicity. But i don't know where it's from. :P

[Albion]

Hehe :D

Well it looks like i have some eastern European ancestry somewhere (on all the tests), so maybe i should add Slavic to my meta ethnicity. But i don't know where it's from. :P

There are some old theories about a few Wends among the Danes that settled Anglia, although they're unsubstantiated.

[Jackson]

There are some old theories about a few Wends among the Danes that settled Anglia, although they're unsubstantiated.

Interesting. I suppose that's possible. Although i might need to have a lot of ancestry from the particular areas they settled in for it to show up i suppose.

My mother and her sister generally get a few % above average for east European stuff, and on 23&me Ancestry composition, my aunt shows up about 1.1% Eastern European, and my mother 0.4% Finnish (although that remains the same at all levels of confidence). However they also have a bit increased Caucasus and Mediterranean, so it might be something more central-European like Swiss, North Italian or Austrian, or Czech perhaps.

[Artek]

There are some old theories about a few Wends among the Danes that settled Anglia, although they're unsubstantiated.
There is a very low but still present Corded Ware input in England (most evidently in a certain R1a-Z283/Z282/Z280 and M458(?) sublineages which were probably accidentally took with Danes and others to England in small numbers.) We cannot exlude that L664+(northwestern) R1a type was also an another type of Corded Ware offshoot. Z284 is most clearly brought by Vikings.
Still, the influence is marginal and I believe that it's rather some kind of a bug/coincidence in your case.

[Jackson]

There is a very low but still present Corded Ware input in England (most evidently in a certain R1a-Z283/Z282/Z280 and M458(?) sublineages which were probably accidentally took with Danes and others to England in small numbers.) We cannot exlude that L664+(northwestern) R1a type was also an another type of Corded Ware offshoot. Z284 is most clearly brought by Vikings.
Still, the influence is marginal and I believe that it's rather some kind of a bug/coincidence in your case.

It's interesting when you consider that many of the soldiers of (I think Harald Bluetooth? Maybe not..) had grown up in Poland according to isotope analysis also. Seems there is some history between Slavic and Germanic peoples, apart from the Goths supposedly.

[Albion]

It's interesting when you consider that many of the soldiers of (I think Harald Bluetooth? Maybe not..) had grown up in Poland according to isotope analysis also. Seems there is some history between Slavic and Germanic peoples, apart from the Goths supposedly.

Germanics were beginning to move in on Wendish areas at around this time. Wends had moved in when these formerly Germanic areas became depopulated an absorbed the remnants of the Germanics there. "Germans" began moving eastwards again though, but Flemish, Dutch, Danes and other Germanic peoples played some role as well. Danes tried to control the Baltic coast.

[Artek]

Germanics were beginning to move in on Wendish areas at around this time. Wends had moved in when these formerly Germanic areas became depopulated an absorbed the remnants of the Germanics there. "Germans" began moving eastwards again though, but Flemish, Dutch, Danes and other Germanic peoples played some role as well. Danes tried to control the Baltic coast.
Well, that's an official point of view that I don't partially agree with. Anyway I can't prove my point very much too, since Polish archeologists are quite new into an aDNA research :(

I don't believe in such fast re-population of "depopulated former-Germanic lands", also genetic markers doesn't signify movement of the "Slavs"(or Wends)from the East.

[Jackson]

Well, that's an official point of view that I don't partially agree with. Anyway I can't prove my point very much too, since Polish archeologists are quite new into an aDNA research :(

I don't believe in such fast re-population of "depopulated former-Germanic lands", also genetic markers doesn't signify movement of the "Slavs"(or Wends)from the East.

There's a similar discussion going on on a thread on 'A Genetic Genaeology Community', quite heated at times. It's a really difficult question to answer in some respects - We know from IBD that Poland and pretty much all other Slavic countries are very related to each other, much like a a population growing and then expanding rapidly - But on the other hand while according to archaeology there is a clear break between the pre-Slavic and Slavic periods in Poland (looks like significant lack in material culture apparently), it doesn't look like they came from the east.

How is the break in material culture explained, and the disappearance of East Germanic regions? If modern Slavs were acculturated from the east by a small group, and then rapidly expanded south and east, how would we explain the break in material culture? On the other hand you are right, there seems to be a lack of genetic evidence pointing to a Slavic expansion from the east.

I find this all a really confusing, and interesting, scenario. I'm sure you know much more about it than me though, so i won't say more than i have.

[Pallantides]

98.34% European
1.66% Middle Eastern


99.15% European
0.85% Native American



51.35% Northwest European
22.43% Iberian
12.82% Baltic-Urals
8.48% Indus Valley
1.97% North African
1.77% Caucasus-Anatolian
1.17% Arabian



67.39% Northwest-European
30.75% Baltic-Urals
1.08% Arctic
0.71% Mesoamerican
0.07% Oceanian



* Anyway DNAtribes isn't really good, I used their free offer for Eurogenes participants.

[Jackson]

99.15% European
0.85% Native American




67.39% Northwest-European
30.75% Baltic-Urals
1.08% Arctic
0.71% Mesoamerican
0.07% Oceanian



* Anyway DNAtribes isn't really good, I used their free offer for Eurogenes participants.

Same here.

A bit of me is tempted to get them for my family members i've tested, but i know that would be very expensive and not worth it.

[Aredhel]

99.15% European
0.85% Native American




67.39% Northwest-European
30.75% Baltic-Urals
1.08% Arctic
0.71% Mesoamerican
0.07% Oceanian



* Anyway DNAtribes isn't really good, I used their free offer for Eurogenes participants.

Native american in denial :p :D

just joking :D

[Mazik]

67.39% Northwest-European
30.75% Baltic-Urals
1.08% Arctic
0.71% Mesoamerican
0.07% Oceanian

* Anyway DNAtribes isn't really good, I used their free offer for Eurogenes participants.

No wog (Iberian)? :confused: I had 12.6% of it on DNA tribes.

[Albion]

Well, that's an official point of view that I don't partially agree with. Anyway I can't prove my point very much too, since Polish archeologists are quite new into an aDNA research :(

I don't believe in such fast re-population of "depopulated former-Germanic lands", also genetic markers doesn't signify movement of the "Slavs"(or Wends)from the East.

You wouldn't agree, you're Polish. ;)

[Pallantides]

No wog (Iberian)? :confused: I had 12.6% of it on DNA tribes.

nada!

[Graham]

Still don't know what to make of DNATribes. Got my results a while back.

[Atlantic Islander]

Still don't know what to make of DNATribes.

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