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evon
01-28-2013, 05:44 PM
http://sciencenordic.com/norways-problem-immigration

The horror, this kind of article is just going to make the debate even more polarized. The problem with this article is that it creates a bond between sceptics to immigration with Racism full stop, its also badly written in terms of listing sources and so on, and saying that UK has no immigration problems of this nature is about as false as saying there grows potato’s on the moon, i have lived in England and have seen and experienced racism there many times, much worse then his "old lady" argument..

Well, one thing is clear, he will send many more voters towards FRP, the party he bashes in this article, which is whom will win this year no doubt...

Gimpicus
01-28-2013, 05:48 PM
I didn't know there is immigrants in Norway. I thought its full of ice white people there.

evon
01-28-2013, 05:53 PM
I didn't know there is immigrants in Norway. I thought its full of ice white people there.

I think about ca 500 000 of our 5 million citizens is immigrants...

Peyrol
01-28-2013, 05:55 PM
I didn't know there is immigrants in Norway. I thought its full of ice white people there.

What would you expect from one of the world's most advanced countries?

Marbeor
01-28-2013, 05:57 PM
If you have wealth you also get people who want to profit of your wealth.

American_Hispanist
01-28-2013, 06:00 PM
You have to breakdown where the immigrants come from. some of the ppl in this forum think that all of those immigrants are MENAs or a bunch of milk-chocolate somalis.

evon
01-28-2013, 06:07 PM
You have to breakdown where the immigrants come from. some of the ppl in this forum think that all of those immigrants are MENAs or a bunch of milk-chocolate somalis.

good overview:


Immigrants by country of origin
Rank Country of origin[26] Population (2001)[27] Population (2012)[2]
1. Poland 6,432 72,103
2. Sweden 23,010 36,578
3. Pakistan 23,581 32,737
4. Somalia 10,107 29,395
5. Iraq 12,357 28,935
6. Germany 9,448 25,683
7. Lithuania 378 23,941
8. Vietnam 15,880 20,871
9. Denmark 19,049 19,823
10. Iran 11,016 17,913
11. Russia 3,749 16,833
12. Turkey 10,990 16,742
13. Philippines 5,885 16,431
14. Bosnia-Herzegovina 12,944 16,338
15. Thailand 3,738 14,398
16. Sri Lanka 10,335 14,293
17. United Kingdom 10,925 13,959
18. Kosovo 0 [28] 13,700
19. Afghanistan 1,346 13,219
20. India 6,140 10,830
21. Eritrea 813 9,566
22. Morocco 5,719 8,591
23. China, People's Republic of 3,654 8,458
24. United States 7,253 8,013
25. Chile 6,491 7,782
26. Netherlands 3,848 7,557
27. Iceland 3,756 7,125
28. Latvia 385 6,973
29. Romania 1,054 6,869
30. Finland 6,776 6,660
31. Ethiopia 2,803 6,405
32. France 2,350 4,716
33. Estonia 342 3,817
34. Palestinian Territory 64 3,593
35. Burma 63 3,527
36. Croatia 1,863 3,451
37. Macedonia, Republic of 789 3,364
38. Ukraine 399 3,343
39. Bulgaria 842 3,337
40. Brazil 824 3,327
41. Serbia 0 [28] 3,278
42. Spain 1,382 3,132
43. Hungary 1,666 2,948
44. Slovakia 207 2,959
45. Lebanon 1,613 2,566
46. Italy 1,265 2,513
47. Syria 860 2,311
48. Congo, Democratic Republic of 276 2,284
49. Ghana 1,355 2,165
50. Sudan 433 1,991
51. Czech Republic 557 1,780
52. Canada 1,120 1,666
53. Algeria 927 1,569
54. Gambia 1,050 1,525
55. Nigeria 541 1,577
56. Portugal 704 1,557
57. Kenya 689 1,420
58. Colombia 604 1,460
59. Australia 609 1,363
60. Indonesia 405 1,343
61. Switzerland 922 1,318
62. Burundi 69 1,249
63. Tunisia 648 1,174
64. Liberia 29 1,163
65. Peru 492 1,136
66. Austria 768 1,123
67. Greece 533 1,035
68. Nepal 157 1,013
69. Belgium 595 994
70. Uganda 501 977
71. Egypt 413 933
71. Bangladesh 490 933
72. Mexico 358 916
73. South Korea 393 898
74. Japan 562 864
75. Cuba 286 847
76. Hong Kong 742 843
77. South Africa 491 840
78. Belarus 134 839
79. Ireland 445 824
80. Kazakhstan 60 813
81. Tanzania 464 796
82. Faroe Islands 770 787
83. Venezuela 152 781
84. Argentina 378 766
85. Dominican Republic 276 716
86. Rwanda 218 710
87. Israel 485 642
88. Albania 156 598
89. Sierra Leone 247 593
90. Cameroon 83 574
91. Malaysia 257 573
92. Azerbaijan 95 538
93. Cambodia 277 519
94. Cape Verde 297 514
95. Jordan 144 478
96. New Zealand 252 473
97. Angola 96 464
98. Moldova 43 443
99. Libya 62 434
100. Uzbekistan 35 414
101. Ecuador 174 408
102. Montenegro 0 [28] 405
103. Kuwait 133 402
104. Singapore 220 391
105. Zambia 114 351
106. Yemen 51 323
107. Saudi Arabia 47 309
108. Côte d'Ivoire 110 276
109. Armenia 47 275
110. Bolivia 134 272
111. Bhutan 10 264
111. Slovenia 53 264
112. Trinidad and Tobago 204 262
113. Senegal 83 250
114. Georgia 47 248
115. Taiwan 113 244
116. Zimbabwe 119 226
117. United Arab Emirates 33 224
118. Mauritius 181 215
119. Uruguay 167 211
120. Madagascar 141 210
121. El Salvador 134 209
121. Guinea 39 203
122. Congo, Republic of 60 189
123. Kyrgyzstan 6 173
124. Guatemala 81 167
125. Jamaica 73 152
125. Nicaragua 78 146
126. Togo 80 143
127. Mozambique 72 142
128. Honduras 64 100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

Pakistan and Somalia is high on that scale...

American_Hispanist
01-28-2013, 06:12 PM
good overview:


Immigrants by country of origin
Rank Country of origin[26] Population (2001)[27] Population (2012)[2]
1. Poland 6,432 72,103
2. Sweden 23,010 36,578
3. Pakistan 23,581 32,737
4. Somalia 10,107 29,395
5. Iraq 12,357 28,935
6. Germany 9,448 25,683
7. Lithuania 378 23,941
8. Vietnam 15,880 20,871
9. Denmark 19,049 19,823
10. Iran 11,016 17,913
11. Russia 3,749 16,833
12. Turkey 10,990 16,742
13. Philippines 5,885 16,431
14. Bosnia-Herzegovina 12,944 16,338
15. Thailand 3,738 14,398
16. Sri Lanka 10,335 14,293
17. United Kingdom 10,925 13,959
18. Kosovo 0 [28] 13,700
19. Afghanistan 1,346 13,219
20. India 6,140 10,830
21. Eritrea 813 9,566
22. Morocco 5,719 8,591
23. China, People's Republic of 3,654 8,458
24. United States 7,253 8,013
25. Chile 6,491 7,782
26. Netherlands 3,848 7,557
27. Iceland 3,756 7,125
28. Latvia 385 6,973
29. Romania 1,054 6,869
30. Finland 6,776 6,660
31. Ethiopia 2,803 6,405
32. France 2,350 4,716
33. Estonia 342 3,817
34. Palestinian Territory 64 3,593
35. Burma 63 3,527
36. Croatia 1,863 3,451
37. Macedonia, Republic of 789 3,364
38. Ukraine 399 3,343
39. Bulgaria 842 3,337
40. Brazil 824 3,327
41. Serbia 0 [28] 3,278
42. Spain 1,382 3,132
43. Hungary 1,666 2,948
44. Slovakia 207 2,959
45. Lebanon 1,613 2,566
46. Italy 1,265 2,513
47. Syria 860 2,311
48. Congo, Democratic Republic of 276 2,284
49. Ghana 1,355 2,165
50. Sudan 433 1,991
51. Czech Republic 557 1,780
52. Canada 1,120 1,666
53. Algeria 927 1,569
54. Gambia 1,050 1,525
55. Nigeria 541 1,577
56. Portugal 704 1,557
57. Kenya 689 1,420
58. Colombia 604 1,460
59. Australia 609 1,363
60. Indonesia 405 1,343
61. Switzerland 922 1,318
62. Burundi 69 1,249
63. Tunisia 648 1,174
64. Liberia 29 1,163
65. Peru 492 1,136
66. Austria 768 1,123
67. Greece 533 1,035
68. Nepal 157 1,013
69. Belgium 595 994
70. Uganda 501 977
71. Egypt 413 933
71. Bangladesh 490 933
72. Mexico 358 916
73. South Korea 393 898
74. Japan 562 864
75. Cuba 286 847
76. Hong Kong 742 843
77. South Africa 491 840
78. Belarus 134 839
79. Ireland 445 824
80. Kazakhstan 60 813
81. Tanzania 464 796
82. Faroe Islands 770 787
83. Venezuela 152 781
84. Argentina 378 766
85. Dominican Republic 276 716
86. Rwanda 218 710
87. Israel 485 642
88. Albania 156 598
89. Sierra Leone 247 593
90. Cameroon 83 574
91. Malaysia 257 573
92. Azerbaijan 95 538
93. Cambodia 277 519
94. Cape Verde 297 514
95. Jordan 144 478
96. New Zealand 252 473
97. Angola 96 464
98. Moldova 43 443
99. Libya 62 434
100. Uzbekistan 35 414
101. Ecuador 174 408
102. Montenegro 0 [28] 405
103. Kuwait 133 402
104. Singapore 220 391
105. Zambia 114 351
106. Yemen 51 323
107. Saudi Arabia 47 309
108. Côte d'Ivoire 110 276
109. Armenia 47 275
110. Bolivia 134 272
111. Bhutan 10 264
111. Slovenia 53 264
112. Trinidad and Tobago 204 262
113. Senegal 83 250
114. Georgia 47 248
115. Taiwan 113 244
116. Zimbabwe 119 226
117. United Arab Emirates 33 224
118. Mauritius 181 215
119. Uruguay 167 211
120. Madagascar 141 210
121. El Salvador 134 209
121. Guinea 39 203
122. Congo, Republic of 60 189
123. Kyrgyzstan 6 173
124. Guatemala 81 167
125. Jamaica 73 152
125. Nicaragua 78 146
126. Togo 80 143
127. Mozambique 72 142
128. Honduras 64 100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

Pakistan and Somalia is high on that scale...

Thank you for the breakdown of the immigrant groups. :)

From what it looks like, the majority of the immigrants are from other Euro countries, but with significant groups of MENAs, somalis, and Anatolians.

Marbeor
01-28-2013, 06:23 PM
Actually Moroccons are worse than Somalis. At least in my country

Austo
01-28-2013, 06:24 PM
I think that all european countries have problems with immigrants (non european) , because always more and more come, because of stupid politicians who let everbody come in the country.

My honest opinion is that it wont take many more years, until there will be christian suicide bombers.

evon
01-28-2013, 06:25 PM
Thank you for the breakdown of the immigrant groups. :)

From what it looks like, the majority of the immigrants are from other Euro countries, but with significant groups of MENAs, somalis, and Anatolians.

See, also this is only from 2001, not listen those whom came as far back as the 60-70's..

More East Asians then Anatolian, but i dont care so much about ethnic background (though western Europeans immigration is more likely to be skilled labour, rather then non-skilled labour, which we dont need), the problem i have with immigration is that we have enough now, our society cant absorb anymore without conflict, and we already have seen conflict arising from riots:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Anti-Israel_riots_in_Norway

And of course ABB's terror:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

Our society needs a long period of stabilization..hence why immigration needs to stop now..