The Term British should it be banned?

[Creeping Death]

British people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people)
The complex history of the formation of the United Kingdom created a "particular sense of nationhood and belonging" in Britain;[24] Britishness came to be "superimposed on to much older identities", and the English, Scottish and Welsh "remain in many ways distinct peoples in cultural terms", giving rise to resistance to British identity.[26] Because of longstanding ethno-sectarian divisions, British identity in Northern Ireland is controversial, but it is held with strong conviction by unionists.
This description fully falls within the definition of multiuculturalism.

mul⋅ti⋅cul⋅tur⋅al (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/multicultural)
–adjective of, pertaining to, or representing several different cultures or cultural elements: a multicultural society.
This is becoming evident to many as non whites

Britishness and ethnic diversity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britishness#Britishness_and_ethnic_diversity)

In 2007, the majority of people in many non-white ethnic groups living in Great Britain described their national identity as British, English, Scottish or Welsh. This included 87% of people with mixed heritage, 85% of Black Caribbeans, and eight in ten Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Non-whites were more likely to describe themselves as British than whites. Only one-third of people from the White British group described themselves as British; with many respondents preferring to call themselves English, Welsh or Scottish.
I believe the term British should be deemed multicultural and not allowed on this forum.

[Loki]

I believe the term British should be deemed multicultural and not allowed on this forum.

We don't do censorship, all words/terms are allowed.

[Vulpix]

Censorship sucks.

[Creeping Death]

But the term violates Apricitys 'Forum Rules & Mission Statement'.

[Vulpix]

Only according to your interpretation.

[Brännvin]

But the term violates Apricitys 'Forum Rules & Mission Statement'.

But the term does not mean it is spreading the multiculturalism.

[Creeping Death]

Only according to your interpretation.
Apricitys interpretation seems quite clear to me.

3. This is a board for people of European heritage. We will not tolerate: pro-multiculturalism, pro-miscegenation, anti-Germanic or anti-Nordic views. Views, ideas, and contributions that are hostile to Europeans or their heritage are not permitted.
Thats a very sharp definition, and Brirtish is multicultural and it is hostile to Europeans.

[Jarl]

Thats a very sharp definition, and Brirtish is multicultural and it is hostile to Europeans.

No. "British", as in its original meaning, should refer to the historical context and the ethnicities which inhabited Britain for the most part of its history. The fact that British government "hijacked" the term and bestows it freely upon various races and people bears no significance here. No law can change history.

[Nodens]

While the agenda is painfully transparent, he does have a point of sorts. Use of the term 'British' to describe one's nationality is really only correct if one is a citizen of Roman Britannia. Like it or not, the term does posses an Imperialist connotation, as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is by no means a nation-state, but an empire consisting of several nations in which one in particular fulfills a dominant role.

Edit: One could construct a Meta-Ethnicity that includes all 'natives' of the British Isles.

[Loki]

While the agenda is painfully transparent, he does have a point of sorts.

No he doesn't. Even if a term "violates" our mission statement, it can still be used. We don't censor ideas. Free discussion. He can discuss the benefits of multiculturalism too, if he wants. ;)

[Nodens]

No he doesn't. Even if a term "violates" our mission statement, it can still be used. We don't censor ideas. Free discussion.

Certainly not in regards to censorship, but careless use of language can have unforeseen consequences.


He can discuss the benefits of multiculturalism too, if he wants. ;)

Well, in that case...:icon_twisted:

[Loki]

Certainly not in regards to censorship, but careless use of language can have unforeseen consequences.


Yes, like getting banned ... :laugh:

[Nodens]

Yes, like getting banned ... :laugh:

Heh, unforeseen only for the bind. And my 'Thanks' button seems to be broken.

[Amarantine]

:eek:

[Æmeric]

NO!

British is a legitimate blanket term for the (native) inhabitants of Great Britain & the Loyalist of Ulster. And in some parts of the world, like America & Canada, the various ethnicities of Britain have intermarried to the extent that some people are in fact 'British' by ethnicity. If any group should be annoyed by the phrase British it should be the English, because they are the ones most aften refered to as British, while the Scots, Welsh & Irish still maintain a seperate distinct identity. That is the liability of being the dominant group.

Whle you're at it while don't you try & get some other labels banned. Like European, that could stand for an inhabitant of the EU, a multicultural union. Or what about Spanish? Why should the Basque & Cataluns be lumped together with the Castilians?

The real reason you want 'British' banned is because many people equate it with 'English' & you hate the English.

Irish is starting to become a multicultural term (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6251094.stm) & there really are Black Irish. (http://www.lauraizibor.com/):ranger:

[Cenél nEógain]

They're not going to ban the term 'British' (I laugh at people who insist there is such thing as British ethnicity, the Indians must be happy then), if they do nothing about rampant orangeism on the board, which is steeped in masonry, nigger membership and Jewish fetishism. That sort of thing is perfectly fine. But any form of Irish Nationalism, a direct anti-thesis of zionist rot, and it is hunted down and trolled out. Brian, don't waste your time. WASP politics are incompatible with Irish National Socialism.

[Loki]

They're not going to ban the term 'British' (I laugh at people who insist there is such thing as British ethnicity, the Indians must be happy then), if they do nothing about rampant orangeism on the board, which is steeped in masonry, nigger membership and Jewish fetishism. That sort of thing is perfectly fine. But any form of Irish Nationalism, a direct anti-thesis of zionist rot, and it is hunted down and trolled out. Brian, don't waste your time. WASP politics are incompatible with Irish National Socialism.

Why does the forum have to have either one or the other? :) How about having everyone on board to air their views? I would love to see some good debate around this topic. But it can't be had if you guys keep on running away! ;)

[Æmeric]

A few other tems that could be misinterpreted as 'multiculutural':

Scandinavian; Lumps Swedes, Norwegians & Danes together. Some people think it includes Finns.:eek:

Celt; This is generally taken to include Irish Catholics, Scots Presbyterians, Welsh, Cornish & Breton. Celt should be banned also.

Swiss; There is no such thing as Swiss, most of them are German with a few French & Italian speakers. And a little group called the Romansh.

German; Is there such a thing as a German? There are Saxons, Franconians, Bavarians, Swabians, Prussians etc... Isn't German just a multicultural term used to justified forcing them all to lived together in one multicultural nation?

[Cenél nEógain]

Isn't it always the mongrels who start saying, 'Is there such thing as ***** race'? No wait, its the democrats and communists.

[Absinthe]

I think the term "European" should also be banned on the accounts of being a multiculturalist notion. :grumpy:

The Apricity should be renamed

"A forum for Cultural & Ethnic English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, German, French, Finnish, Estonian, Latvian, Icelandic, Hungarian, Italian, Russian, Ukrainian, Flemish, Walloon, Spanish, Greek, Bulgarian, Serbian, Polish, Anglosaxon American, Celtic American, Italian American, German American, Anglosaxon Canadian, French Canadian, Dutch South African, and Anglosaxon Australian Preservation."

So how'bout 'dat? :thumbs

[Goidelic]

The term British has been in use 302 years to ban it now would cause historical inaccuracies. Most often the term British is used during and after 1707 to designate the English. How many use British to describe the Welsh or Scots? It seems that British is used to describe the Germanic English, rather than Celtic Welsh and Celtic Scottish, who are also technically British. I personally use the term for my distant 18th-19th century English roots and use Irish for my more closer 19th-20th century recent roots.

[Germanicus]

Yes, like getting banned ... :laugh:

What does it take for Brian to be banned Loki..... members to leave because they have had enough of Brian and his language and rudeness? Please.... Brian takes you for a joke, do not play by his rules.

[007]

How many use British to describe the Welsh or Scots?

Most of the British. ;)

[Äike]

What does it take for Brian to be banned Loki..... members to leave because they have had enough of Brian and his language and rudeness? Please.... Brian takes you for a joke, do not play by his rules.

Your efforts are meaningless, there's a member here, who has scared away several other members and he's not banned. So the banning of Brian is quite impossible(if no double standards exist in this forum).

[Paleo]

some people like to be known as British, and some Scottish, Irish, welsh and English. people have the right to choose these (what i see as) superficial identities.

some times i call myself British, sometimes Scottish, i put "Scoto-Boere", if I'm taking the piss (usually on unwanted job applications) it depends on what more convenient at the time.

[Poltergeist]

This description fully falls within the definition of multiuculturalism.

[QUOTE]Britishness and ethnic diversity

In 2007, the majority of people in many non-white ethnic groups living in Great Britain described their national identity as British, English, Scottish or Welsh. This included 87% of people with mixed heritage, 85% of Black Caribbeans, and eight in ten Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Non-whites were more likely to describe themselves as British than whites. Only one-third of people from the White British group described themselves as British; with many respondents preferring to call themselves English, Welsh or Scottish.

This is becoming evident to many as non whites

I believe the term British should be deemed multicultural and not allowed on this forum.

Come on! We all now you are just copy-pasting the retarded ideas, "arguments" and concepts of the frustrated owner of the Moorish nationalist forum Stirpes.

[Goidelic]

Wikipedia authors & other sites claiming the ethnic British/English are mixed race. :rolleyes:

"There has been a black presence in England since at least the 16th century due to the slave trade and an Indian presence since the mid 19th century because of the British Raj.[56] Black and Asian proportions have grown in England as immigration from the British Empire and the subsequent Commonwealth of Nations was encouraged due to labour shortages during post-war rebuilding.[57] In 2006, an estimated 591,000 migrants arrived to live in the UK for at least a year,[58] while 400,000 people emigrated from the UK for a year or more.[59][60] The largest group of arrivals was people from the Indian subcontinent.[61] While one result of this immigration has been incidents of racial tension, such as the Brixton and Bradford riots, there has also been considerable intermarriage; the 2001 census recorded that 1.31% of England's population call themselves "Mixed",[62] and The Sunday Times reported in 2007 that mixed race people are likely to be the largest ethnic minority in the UK by 2020.[63]"

"Interracial marriage was fairly common in Britain since the 17th century, when the British East India Company began bringing over thousands of Indian scholars, lascars and workers (mostly Bengali and/or Muslim) to Britain. Most married and cohabited with local white British women and girls, due to the absence of Indian women in Britain at the time."

"And in this country this has been going on since the 16th century. In the 17th and 18th centuries fashionable rich ladies liked to have slaves as ornaments, and black lovers in their beds. One of these, Soubise from St Kitts, was adored by the Duchess of Queensberry and was the toast of fashionable London."

"Britain is and has always been a mixed race society. Early in our history we were invaded by Roman, Saxon, Viking and Norman armies and later Africans were brought to Britain by force in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries as slaves or servants. Over the years, thousands of people have arrived in Britain as refugees from France, Ireland, Russia, and other countries, escaping from persecution or famine in their own countries."

[Jarl]

"Interracial marriage was fairly common in Britain since the 17th century, when the British East India Company began bringing over thousands of Indian scholars, lascars and workers (mostly Bengali and/or Muslim) to Britain. Most married and cohabited with local white British women and girls, due to the absence of Indian women in Britain at the time."

Is this really true?


"And in this country this has been going on since the 16th century. In the 17th and 18th centuries fashionable rich ladies liked to have slaves as ornaments, and black lovers in their beds. One of these, Soubise from St Kitts, was adored by the Duchess of Queensberry and was the toast of fashionable London."

LOL! :D


"Britain is and has always been a mixed race society. Early in our history we were invaded by Roman, Saxon, Viking and Norman armies and later Africans were brought to Britain by force in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries as slaves or servants. Over the years, thousands of people have arrived in Britain as refugees from France, Ireland, Russia, and other countries, escaping from persecution or famine in their own countries."

Roman, Saxon, Viking and Norman as the best proof of a mixed-race society.

[Æmeric]

"Interracial marriage was fairly common in Britain since the 17th century, when the British East India Company began bringing over thousands of Indian scholars, lascars and workers (mostly Bengali and/or Muslim) to Britain. Most married and cohabited with local white British women and girls, due to the absence of Indian women in Britain at the time."There would have been no reason to bring 'thousands' of Indian laborers to pre-20th century Britain. There was no shortage of labor & besides Ireland & the Irish were much nearer. The is just a rewriting of history, to justify the current racial situation in Britain caused by immigration from the subcontinent. There are Anglo-Indians who have come to Britain but the would have been rare before Indian independence.

[Goidelic]

"And in this country this has been going on since the 16th century. In the 17th and 18th centuries fashionable rich ladies liked to have slaves as ornaments, and black lovers in their beds. One of these, Soubise from St Kitts, was adored by the Duchess of Queensberry and was the toast of fashionable London."

Sorry, I just burst out laughing when I read that on a site and had to post it. :D:D:D:tongue:tongue:tongue:tongue

[Goidelic]

There would have been no reason to bring 'thousands' of Indian laborers to pre-20th century Britain. There was no shortage of labor & besides Ireland & the Irish were much nearer. The is just a rewriting of history, to justify the current racial situation in Britain caused by immigration from the subcontinent. There are Anglo-Indians who have come to Britain but the would have been rare before Indian independence.

Yeah, the site wasn't from a Rastafarian one a .uk site, but I think it was from a Rastafarian who wrote the artlcle, Æmeric. Rastafarians are notorious for claming English have always been mixed race. :tongue;)

[Beorn]

The term British should it be banned?

No. If it does, then by the same reasoning set out by the OP, the terms like Irish should also be banished and put away.

I doubt that somehow even that troll would succumb to that extreme.

[Creeping Death]

if they do nothing about rampant orangeism on the board, which is steeped in masonry, nigger membership and Jewish fetishism.
Its swarming with Niggers the Orange movement and on this forum British Multuculturalist collaborators never expose the Jew for what he is, they side with the Zionist Death Machine.

But any form of Irish Nationalism, a direct anti-thesis of zionist rot, and it is hunted down and trolled out. Brian, don't waste your time. WASP politics are incompatible with Irish National Socialism.
Irish Nationalism The True White Resistance

Eire awake.

[SwordoftheVistula]

If any group should be annoyed by the phrase British it should be the English

I lost the link, but for laughs I was going to post a news story here which referred to "English Prime Minister Gordon Brown" (he is Scottish)


Its swarming with Niggers the Orange movement

That must be why they burn down mosques and run gypsies out of the country.

Sinn Fein is a pro-immigration movement (as long as the 'immigrants' aren't English).


I do think that terms like 'British', 'Swiss', 'American' etc should not be allowed in the 'ethnicity' field since they are not ethnicities, nor should people be allowed to put something as their 'location' if they do not actually currently reside in that place.

[Beorn]

Irish Nationalism The True White Resistance




http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/424875599_42d228a728.jpg?v=0


Makes you wonder.

[007]

Is this really true?


No

[Arahari]

The term is exceedingly ancient and refers to the pre-Roman Cymric population of Britain and if you value the teachings of L. Austine Waddell it has an even more ancient Aryan origin which is alluded to in the writings of Nennius and Geoffrey of Monmouth.
The Germanic and Celtic populations of Britain have a common racial origin and their lives and destinies are intertwined by thousands of years of history.
Also the whole notion of `banning` is unAryan and semitic in nature.

[SwordoftheVistula]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/424875599_42d228a728.jpg?v=0


Makes you wonder.


Do they even have jews in Ireland, and have they ever? I suspect that shirt is from an American of half Irish, half Jewish ancestry; of which there are a number do to proximity in urban areas of the northeast.

[Beorn]

No, Ireland has had more Jews than any other country in the British Isles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ireland

Whilst us English were trying our best to expel the Jew from our lands, the Irish were fully embracing them. You need only look at the typical rhetoric of your average pseudo-Irish nationalist to notice the depths to which this epoch of their history warped the outgoing politics of their souls.

[Arahari]

Its swarming with Niggers the Orange movement and on this forum British Multuculturalist collaborators never expose the Jew for what he is, they side with the Zionist Death Machine.

Irish Nationalism The True White Resistance

Eire awake.

The Irish are the only Aryan people with the guts to resist zionist imperialism. I salute them and the noble IRA.:thumbs up

[Beorn]

The IRA are the closest thing us Westerners come to a Marxist (read: Jewish) outfit.

[SwordoftheVistula]

...resist zionist imperialism. I salute them and the noble IRA.:thumbs up

Aren't a number of their principles marxist? Both of Marx's grandfathers were rabbis, dontcha know :thumb001:

[Arahari]

Aren't a number of their principles marxist? Both of Marx's grandfathers were rabbis, dontcha know :thumb001:

In what way are the principles of the IRA `marxist`?
You are also digressing. The point that I seek to emphasise is that the IRA which traces its root to the ancient pre-xtian Irish Fianna[the equivalent of the Germanic commitatus] is an excellent example of Aryans fighting to resist zionist tyranny in the time honoured fashion.
The only thing that came close to this is The Order in the USA.

[Creeping Death]

Whilst us English were trying our best to expel the Jew from our lands,
You are Jewish.

and with having Jewish relatives
:mad:, I got you converso I knew you were not white, explains all that badgering me about be anti Jewish and your liking for dark women.

the Irish were fully embracing them.
The British according to your source brought the Jews into Ireland:

By 1232, there was probably a Jewish community in Ireland, as a grant of July 28, 1232 by King Henry III to Peter de Rivel gives him the office of Treasurer and Chancellor of the Irish Exchequer, the king's ports and coast, and also "the custody of the King's Judaism in Ireland"

[Creeping Death]

In what way are the principles of the IRA `marxist`?
You are also digressing. The point that I seek to emphasise is that the IRA which traces its root to the ancient pre-xtian Irish Fianna[the equivalent of the Germanic commitatus] is an excellent example of Aryans fighting to resist zionist tyranny in the time honoured fashion.
The only thing that came close to this is The Order in the USA.
The IRA are not Marxist at all, I know I have family well entrenched within Irish resistance. Recall Cromwell was the General Lord Protector who made a pact with the expelled Jews of Spain. The Irish have been resisting Judeo-British Multiculturalism for centuries.

[Beorn]

You're an idiot, Brian.

I still await you here with my "stop being silly stick".

[Creeping Death]

You're an idiot, Brian.
Your a Jew, Wat.

[Ulf]

Your a Jew, Wat.

It's you're (http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You%27re-and-Your).

[Creeping Death]

It's you're (http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You%27re-and-Your).
Thanks for the spell check much appreciated.

[Beorn]

Your a Jew, Wat.

YOU'RE ;)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3430/mstick.jpg

[Ulf]

Thanks for the spell check much appreciated.

Actually, I think it was a grammar check, as nothing was technically spelled wrong.

[SwordoftheVistula]

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/after-ira-failure-adams-eyes-cabinet-posts-470607.html

IN 1970 when Sean MacStiofain, the IRA chief of staff, led some angry Sinn Fein delegates out of a Dublin hotel, Gerry Adams, then aged 21, remained in his seat at the party's Ard Fheis.

Adams, however, has disputed this version of events, much as he disputes his past IRA membership. It does seem that he refused, initially, to follow the dissidents. Three months later, however, he changed his mind.

He joined the breakaway republican group which was unhappy with the IRA's Marxist tendencies, with its willingness to contest elections, and its lack of interest in the armed struggle as the only means of achieving Irish unity.

[Poltergeist]

The term Brian Foley should be banned.

[Alcuin52]

Why is 'British' considered a 'multicultural' epithet, yet 'European' not?