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Kazimiera
02-08-2013, 08:22 PM
All U.S. citizens, including babies, will receive a mandatory microchip soon. This is not some dark conspiracy; it has been openly discussed and placed in various pieces of legislation for decades by Republicans and Democrats, beginning in 1974. A microchip implant is in the Obama health care bill. However, most people miss seeing that because it is written using ambiguous and technical language. The language defines a microchip implant as, “A class II device that is implantable.” According to the government’s own definition, the term, “A Class II device that is implantable,” is a transponder or RFID chip. Therefore it is a microchip!

http://dpi.studioxx.org/demo/images/10/verichipcorp1.jpg

However, it is important to understand that Obama did not originate the plan to microchip all American citizens of the population. Ultimately, President Obama is not the problem regarding the microchip implant! The Republicans planned for the microchip implant before Obama ever entered the White House. In reality, this merely demonstrates that the distinction between Democrats and Republicans is almost entirely meaningless. Both parties serve the agenda of the global elites who issue instructions to the elected officials they put in power to do their bidding. The ultimate goal is to microchip the entire population of planet earth and in nations like India, a microchip implant in their nation I.D. card, has been distributed to hundreds of millions of people.

It was not President Obama, a Democrat, but Tommy Thompson, a Republican Governor from Wisconsin and the former Secretary of Health and Human Services, who pushed for the microchip under President Bush. Tommy Thompson supported the Verichip, which is a microchip implant, presented as a “useful tool in sharing medical information.” Thompson sat on the board of directors of Verichip’s company Applied Digital Solutions, which is now known as PositiveID. In 2007, Thompson resigned from the board of the company.

Ironically, while Thompson worked to microchip the U.S. population, he personally refused to receive a microchip implant himself. Thompson, who is a pro-life activist and claims to have Christian religious beliefs, worked to implement a microchip implant, which many Christians believe could lead to the mark of the beast in the Book of Revelation, Chapter 13. It is staggering to see the number of political leaders who profess to be Christians and yet who are the very same people who promote legislation that undermines their Christian belief system. The reason for this seeming contradiction is that the majority of so-called “Christian” politicians do not have a Biblical worldview. Their understanding of God’s Word is superficial and often not genuine, which is a reflection of the lack of good Bible teaching in the pulpits of America. We have entire denominations and churches who actually forbid the teaching of Bible prophecy and the Book of Revelation, which is the official policy of Communist China as well!

The root problem in America is not an economic or political one. It is not the responsibility of politicians to understand the theological and prophetic implications of a microchip implant. It is the responsibility of the church to educate both the public and elected officials about what the Bible has to say about the “mark of the beast” and how a microchip implant, parallels the description of the “mark of the beast” in Revelation 13. The root problem in America, is an apostate Church, which has chosen to reject God’s Word, especially in areas of prophecy. The history of Israel is an account of the cycles of judgment and restoration they went through based on their rejection of God’s Word, or repentance. But the root problem for Israel was always the collective rejection of God’s Word and choosing to worship idols.

Although, America is not Israel, the Pilgrims and Puritans did enter into a Covenant with God over America and we seem to see similar cycles repeated. There can be no reformation, revival or Great Awakening without direct acknowledgement of this central problem in American Christianity. Economic, political and cultural problems are always a symptom of a deeper spiritual problem. For example, when any nation begins to look at their government to be God, or their political leaders to be a Messiah, this is idolatry. The first of the Ten Commandments states, “Thou shall have no other Gods before me.” Exodus 20:3 The violation of this Commandment, always leads to economic, social and political destruction.

In 2012, VeriTeQ Acquisition Corporation, a marketer of implantable RFID technologies for patient identification and sensor applications, announced it had acquired the VeriChip implantable microchip and related technologies, and Health Link personal health record from PositiveID Corporation. VeriTeQ is majority owned and headed up, by Scott R. Silverman, former Chairman and CEO of PositiveID and VeriChip Corporation. PositiveID has retained an ownership interest in VeriTeQ.

On March 8, 2007, Tommy G. Thompson, an independent member of the Board of Directors of VeriChip, submitted a letter to the Company expressing his interest in taking a leave of absence from the Board of Directors in order to devote his full time and efforts to running for President as the Republican candidate of the United States.

In the Obama Health Care Bill, the need for a microchip implant first came up in H.R. 3200 section 2521, Pgs. 100-1007, paragraph 1. Tracing the need for a microchip implant in the various Health Care Bills can be confusing because of the changes and different bills involved. For example, with H.R.3590, America thought it was free of a ‘Healthcare System’ that would create a national medical registry and the population to be tagged with implantable RFID chips. But a second heath care related bill called “The Reconciliation Act of 2010” (2300 pages) was passed by the Senate on March 25th after being passed by the House on March 21st. In the text of the 2300 page bill, which our elected representatives, both Republicans and Democrats did not read, in section 2521, the creation of a National Medical Device Registry is enacted. This is portrayed as a registry to collect safety data on medical devices such as pacemakers and to put the safety data in a publicly accessible national electronic database. However, that is distinctly misleading.

In the section entitled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521 – National Medical Device Registry, it states:

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

The language conceals the fact, that it provides the structure for making America the first nation in the world that would require every U.S. citizen to receive an implanted radio-frequency (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling medical care. There are those that say the current legislation does not say this. But, the current legislation and laws surrounding the Health Care Bill are still in the process of being written. As such one cannot conclude that the microchip implant is simply going to disappear!

When Joe Biden, a Senator at the time asks Justice John Roberts at a Confirmation Hearing:

"Can a miniature tag be implanted into a human body to track his every movement? You will rule on that, mark my words, before your tenure is over."

The cat is out of the bag! Many of our elected officials know what the plan is.

You can dance around all the fine print in the legal language, but you cannot escape the fact that there is a plan to microchip the population. The truth is that if the global elites have their way, you are going to be implanted with a Radio Frequency Transponder (RFID Chip). Radio-frequency identification (RFID) employs the use of a wireless non-contact system, using radio-frequency electromagnetic fields to transmit data from a microchip, biochip or a microscopic technology called a nano-chip, for the purposes of automatic identification and tracking. The nano-chip is so small, you could be given one during a vaccination and never even know it! I am not advocating that all vaccinations are bad. But, you better know what they are injecting into your blood stream!

Nano-technology requires no battery and is powered by the electromagnetic fields used to read them. Some chips can use a local power source or even the electricity in your body and can broadcast radio waves (electromagnetic radiation) at radio frequencies.

The plan to microchip the U.S. population goes back a lot farther than Bush or Obama. In a testimony called “Microchip Implants and Cybernetics 12-6-1,” in 1974, a Congressional testimony from Dr. Jose Delgado stated, “We need a program of PSYCHOSURGERY for political control of our society.” Dr. Jose M. Delgado Professor of Neuropsychiatry, Yale University Medical Records, Number 26, Vol. 118 February 1974. Delgado said, “Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. We must electrically control the brain.”

Zbigniew Brzezinski who is a founder of the Trilateral Commission, and former National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter advocated a technological dictatorship. "In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities effectively exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason."
In 1970, in his book he wrote while a professor at Columbia University, entitled, “Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era,” Brzezinski made the following statement :

"Political strategists are tempted to exploit research on the brain and human behavior. Geophysicist Gordon J.F. MacDonald, a specialist in problems of warfare, says accurately-timed, artificially-excited electronic strokes could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the earth ... in this way one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period."

" ... no matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages, to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades." This is already being used with EMF waves coming from satellites, remote transmitters, television, cell phones, computers and other sources.”

“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values (like liberty and democracy). Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. This is happening now with technologies so advanced, that the average America does not know they exist. We are as the science fiction Robert Heinlein said, “A Stranger in a Strange Land.”

Aldous Huxley, H.G. Wells, Bertrand Russell and other Fabian socialists, wrote about his scientific dictatorship in the late 1800s, where society would be ruled by an elite, or a scientific dictatorship. Our world has become a planetary matrix where, with few exceptions, people are under the influence of highly sophisticated mind control, implemented by technologies that they don’t even know exist.

In Revelation 13:16-18, it talks about the False Prophet working with the Antichrist: “And he caused all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six.” I explain this in my 3-DVD series, “Are You Ready for the Coming One World Government, One World Economic System and the Coming One World Religion?”

This gives a scientific elite total control over mass populations, creates a nation of robots and total electronic mind control. This is just the beginning of the brave new world of microchip technology. The science fiction writer, Philip K. Dick, wrote many movies that deal with these subjects including “Minority Report,” “Total Recall,” “Blade Runner, “Adjustment Bureau,” and “A Scanner Darkly.” The microchip is the world of science fiction and prophecy in which we now live.

http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul136.htm

Smaland
02-08-2013, 08:42 PM
9) And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10) The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11) And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 14:9-11 (King James Version)

Germanicus
02-08-2013, 09:06 PM
We should implement micro chipping in the Uk before the Bulgarians and Turks swamp us and bring our national health service to its knees.

Just90
02-08-2013, 09:16 PM
Lol funny and the title it's so misleading , All Americans ? Funny too :picard1:

Sikeliot
02-08-2013, 09:17 PM
TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT CONTROL. fuck that.

Adrian
02-08-2013, 09:20 PM
Ironically, while Thompson worked to microchip the U.S. population, he personally refused to receive a microchip implant himself.

Well, this explains a lot.

larali
02-08-2013, 09:21 PM
Right. I can see the Biblical rice-storing far-right militia taking this real well.

Kazimiera
02-08-2013, 09:22 PM
Lol funny and the title it's so misleading , All Americans ? Funny too :picard1:

How so?

Stefan
02-08-2013, 09:24 PM
It would be at that moment when they try to put something in me, as if I'm their manufactured product, when I would say enough is enough and meet force with force. Absolutely horrific, and people wonder why we don't trust D.C and the people who congregate there with aims to rule.

Jägerstaffel
02-08-2013, 09:26 PM
LOL. Doubtful.

Žołnir
02-08-2013, 09:28 PM
My father constantly talks about it. I mean wtf. I hope this isnt real. :eek:

RussiaPrussia
02-08-2013, 09:30 PM
really disgusting i hope europe never hits it.

Just90
02-08-2013, 09:31 PM
How so?

The title it's misleading cause it says " all Americans " like if all Americans were gonna let the government put a chip inside or we were gonna be forced too

And it's funny cause that'll never happen . We are not that brain washed and ignorant to let the government or Obama care put some unknown chip in our body

Pontios
02-08-2013, 09:34 PM
I would rather die than wear this. Never in this world will I have anything similar to this. Let me remind every Orthodox here, that this is against our religion.

larali
02-08-2013, 09:35 PM
I rather agree with Just90. Anyone who thinks it's a possibility that All Americans will have to do this-- obviously doesn't live in the South. ;)

Germanicus
02-08-2013, 09:36 PM
TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT CONTROL. fuck that.

Spoken like a dumb young person that does not have the pleasure of seeing his hard earned tax dollars wasted on some people who are not entitled to welfare?

Stefan
02-08-2013, 09:37 PM
I rather agree with Just90. Anyone who thinks it's a possibility that All Americans will have to do this-- obviously doesn't live in the South. ;)

The problem is not that Americans might do this, but because our oligarchy is thinking of it. It reflects the type of people our founders didn't want in government.

Pontios
02-08-2013, 09:38 PM
Spoken like a dumb young person that does not have the pleasure of seeing his hard earned tax dollars wasted on some people who are not entitled to welfare?

? Would you want to be microchipped like an animal? We do not. If you want to be treated like some animal, you can be the first one to get one of these microchips.

Kazimiera
02-08-2013, 09:39 PM
According to this site: http://www.yuriyandinna.com/2012/11/obamacare-and-the-2013-rfid-microchip/

http://www.yuriyandinna.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/obamacare-chip-mark-of-the-beast1.jpg

The Internet is blowing up with wild rumors of an upcoming mandatory micro-chipping. The not-so-electronic rumor mill is also spinning in overdrive. I’ve had numerous people tell (warn) me of the upcoming Mark of the Beast, sponsored by Obama. Some are fearful, others are angry, all are sure that Obama is pushing through the 666 microchip. One elderly woman recently warned me that this would all happen by March 2013! Another, a young woman, stated online that this Obamacare chip is not the true mark of the beast, but will also be an act of satan worship and damn your soul to hell. These rumors keep picking up speed.

There are numerous reasons why people like conspiracy theories. Yet the biggest danger is that once we embark full-on into wacky-world, when something serious does happen, no one will listen to us because we have “cried wolf” a bazillion times in the past. So let’s be normal, please. Here is why this microchip this is a big joke:

1. The bill with the ‘Medical Device Registry’ was not passed into law

The emails/posts usually reference bill HR3200 as legalizing a special registry that mandates everyone to be chipped and recorded in the Medical Device Registry. HR3200 was a very early draft of the Obamacare law that was rejected. There have been numerous revisions of the Obamacare legislation, and the final version (HR 3962) that was passed by congress has nothing at all mentioning “biomedical devices” or a Registry. We are dealing with a discarded rough draft that made it to the internet. It carries as much legal weight as toilet paper.


2. The bill rough draft had nothing to do with RFID microchips

This purported Registry covers medical devices used in patients not microchips used for banking, identification, or Satan worship. It was stated that “class II” or “class III” biomedical devices are actually chips implanted under your skin. The classes have nothing to do with what type of device it is, only with how much safety checks it must go through before doctors can provide patients with such a device. Some real examples of class II and III devices include: physiologic monitors, x-ray systems, gas analyzers, pumps, replacement heart valves, silicone gel-filled breast implants, and pacemakers.


3. It would not have forced or mandated anyone to obtain anything

There was nothing in the language that said “all citizens and residents must be on the Medical Device Registry.” Instead it was something created only for patients who use such medical devices. Most Americans would have been unaffected and not have known anything about this. This would not have forced anyone to get a chip any more than it forced anyone to get a hip replacement surgery. Biomedical devices are voluntary things people use for a health benefit.


4. The whole idea was only drawn up to regulate medical devices, not people

Here is the actual language used “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.” The whole point was to collect safety data about different brands of devices (such as two different kinds of pacemakers) to track the long term effectiveness of these devices. There is nothing about planting chips that brainwash and control people, only a blurb about making sure defective medical devices are put out of business.


5. Such a “mass chipping” could not happen without massive civil war

America started from the very beginning as a “free country” but true universal freedom is impossible in a sinful, fallen world. Even our great country has always limited greatest freedom to a certain group of people. In culture one group gets a “freedom” and by that “freedom” limits a second group. For example, slaves and Native Americans were not free to live as they wanted, yet the charlatans and slave traders were free to do what they wanted. Slave-owners wanted the “freedom” to own slaves, but the only way they could maintain this is by limiting another person’s freedom. When America took away the “freedom” to own slaves, a civil war ensued. It took 620,000 lives (more than all American casualties in all historic wars combined) to instantly take away the “freedom” to own slaves. If that’s the case, imagine the war it would take to instantly make everyone into a slave! There are close to 3 million soldiers and on active duty and on reserve. Since 1998, there have been 151 million background checks for gun purchases. About half of all Americans own guns. I’d love to see someone try to forcefully micro-chip 150 million people with guns. That is absurd, illogical, and quite impossible.


Truth is, this ridiculous microchip idea is a red herring that distracts us from a very slow and gradual cultural shift that is redefining morality and prosecuting Christian values. And by naively believing such lies as this microchip rubbish, we are showing ourselves to be as untrustworthy and ignorant as some think we are. By this we are heaping kindling to the fires of secularism.

Pontios
02-08-2013, 09:39 PM
The problem is not that Americans might do this, but because our oligarchy is thinking of it. It reflects the type of people our founders didn't want in government.

The founding fathers are rolling in their graves from anger right now.

Pontios
02-08-2013, 09:40 PM
According to this site: http://www.yuriyandinna.com/2012/11/obamacare-and-the-2013-rfid-microchip/


It starts with just an idea, and leads on to become a reality. People get used to the idea and start to consider it, and after that it becomes a reality. Just like our media today, 50 years ago seeing someone being murdered on TV with blood everywhere, that was something extremely horrid, but today, we see it everyday and we are used to it. Same with these chips, we will see them everyday and hear about them, and deny them, but one day most of us will just accept them.

Stefan
02-08-2013, 09:40 PM
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The founding fathers are rolling in their graves from anger right now.

Unfortunately progressives don't care what the founding fathers think. They just care about controlling people and controlling society with the aim of creating their utopias.

Germanicus
02-08-2013, 09:41 PM
The problem is not that Americans might do this, but because our oligarchy is thinking of it. It reflects the type of people our founders didn't want in government.

so you"d rather see the tax payers of America funding every illegal and non deserving individual that jumps the fence??? get real Stefan!!!

Stefan
02-08-2013, 09:42 PM
so you"d rather see the tax payers of America funding every illegal a\nd non deserving individual that jumps the fence??? get real Stefan!!!

Well, if you know a single thing about my political views you'd know that I don't agree with the state stealing money from people and giving it to others. I'm consistent though, and I also don't think the state has a single entitlement to a hair on my body, I believe in something called liberty.

Pontios
02-08-2013, 09:43 PM
so you"d rather see the tax payers of America funding every illegal and non deserving individual that jumps the fence??? get real Stefan!!!

I would rather see the tax payers of America doing what is for America. We did not say for them to fund every illegal immigrant and non deserving individual. That is just an excuse. You are looking at 2 different bad things rather than to find a solution. I would rather have my money go to illegal immigrants, because that is what most of us used to be. We came and built America, Americans did not build America, we Europeans did.

RussiaPrussia
02-08-2013, 09:49 PM
so you"d rather see the tax payers of America funding every illegal and non deserving individual that jumps the fence??? get real Stefan!!!

dude your some wicked control freak

Lemon Kush
02-08-2013, 10:01 PM
Is this serious?!?!?!?!? Just another step to the New World Order. Total control of a country's population. The government will now be able to track where you are and what you're doing 24/7 365. What you purchase, everything you do will be documented. This microchip is indeed the mark of the beast especially if you do it VOLUNTARILY. Are freedoms are at stake folks. But of course most of the sheeple will accept getting microchipped.

Illancha
02-08-2013, 10:06 PM
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) states that "All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights" (Article 1) and that "no one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms" (Article 4).

askra
02-08-2013, 10:09 PM
I don't see it as something weird. Microchips are everywhere, so having a microchip under my skin rather that inside the dentity card , passport, credit card, and drive licence is a great idea. At least people will never lose their identity documents in future. :D

Pontios
02-08-2013, 10:10 PM
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) states that "All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights" (Article 1) and that "no one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms" (Article 4).

Human Rights?? What's that? :lol: It only affects countries that aren't friends with the US and all of US's puppets. They never care for human rights unless they have some financial opportunity or advantage from it.

Sippola
02-08-2013, 10:11 PM
There are so many private citizens with guns in the U.S, and enough citizens who will refuse this, that there will be a civil war before something like this can take place.

Although on the surface it may seem that liberals rule here, the liberals own far fewer guns than the conservatives.

Yeah, yeah, the conservatives may be part of this plan as well, but most gun owners probably are not for it. I see a big problem here.

Stefan
02-08-2013, 10:12 PM
There are so many private citizens with guns in the U.S, and enough citizens who will refuse this, that there will be a civil war before something like this can take place.

Although on the surface it may seem that liberals rule here, the liberals own far fewer guns than the conservatives.

Yeah, yeah, the conservatives may be part of this plan as well, but most gun owners probably are not for it. I see a big problem here.

Well they're working on that. That's precisely why they want gun control and especially registration. Then we can all be good slaves.

Germanicus
02-09-2013, 11:50 AM
? Would you want to be microchipped like an animal? We do not. If you want to be treated like some animal, you can be the first one to get one of these microchips.

I am all for it, the foreigners here in the UK who are milking the system are robbing the honest hard working people, how do you stop it!! Surely the goverments must take radical steps to eradicate thus foreign malignant growth that is slowly taking over?????
It is liberal types like you and Stefan that bury your heads in the sand to the steps that must be taken to alter the illegals mind frame from entering our countries???

Leliana
02-09-2013, 12:41 PM
It reminds me so much of:

http://www.beskrovnyy.com/images/1984/1984-4.jpg

http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/obey.jpg

http://criticallycorrectblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/big-brother-watching-obamacartoon.jpg

SkyBurn
02-09-2013, 12:46 PM
To be honest, I don't see why the idea is that horrible if used responsibly. To me, it seems like the good would outweigh the bad.

Then again, I did skim most of the article.

Stefan
02-09-2013, 05:46 PM
To be honest, I don't see why the idea is that horrible if used responsibly. To me, it seems like the good would outweigh the bad.

Then again, I did skim most of the article.

It is not good vs. bad. It's about people having ABSOLUTE power over their own bodies. Any mandatory alteration of their body from an outside party is a HUGE infringement on their liberties and it contradicts every single thing that created our federation and states. It is a breach of our contract with both governments.

Germanicus
02-09-2013, 06:21 PM
It is not good vs. bad. It's about people having ABSOLUTE power over their own bodies. Any mandatory alteration of their body from an outside party is a HUGE infringement on their liberties and it contradicts every single thing that created our federation and states. It is a breach of our contract with both governments.

Liberal thinking like yours has destroyed most countries boundaries Stefan

Stefan
02-09-2013, 06:25 PM
Liberal thinking like yours has destroyed most countries boundaries Stefan

I don't care, to be honest. I would never want to live in a fascist country in which I'm owned by my government for the sole purpose of ethnic purity. There are other ways, implemented by society not the state, for which people can remain ethnically stable and demographically numerous. Please spread your propaganda to somebody else, really. The U.S has embraced (true) liberalism since its inception, and it was only the role of Marxists that has affected our demographics detrimentally. Otherwise, there would be no motivation or reason for leeches to come to a free-market society without a welfare-state.

Germanicus
02-09-2013, 06:30 PM
I don't care, to be honest. I would never want to live in a fascist country in which I'm owned by my government for the sole purpose of ethnic purity. There are other ways, implemented by society not the state, for which people can remain ethnically stable and demographically numerous. Please spread your propaganda to somebody else, really. The U.S has embraced (true) liberalism since its inception, and it was only the role of Marxists that has affected our demographics detrimentally. Otherwise, there would be no motivation or reason for leeches to come to a free-market society without a welfare-state.

When Obama got the health care bill accepted in the senate it was pushed through on the inclusion, and acceptance of this technology.

Stefan
02-09-2013, 06:35 PM
When Obama got the health care bill accepted in the senate it was pushed through on the inclusion, and acceptance of this technology.

It was removed in the final revision. Which is a good thing (even as a registry of individuals using medical devices, it's intrusive on privacy.)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1363991&postcount=19


1. The bill with the ‘Medical Device Registry’ was not passed into law

The emails/posts usually reference bill HR3200 as legalizing a special registry that mandates everyone to be chipped and recorded in the Medical Device Registry. HR3200 was a very early draft of the Obamacare law that was rejected. There have been numerous revisions of the Obamacare legislation, and the final version (HR 3962) that was passed by congress has nothing at all mentioning “biomedical devices” or a Registry. We are dealing with a discarded rough draft that made it to the internet. It carries as much legal weight as toilet paper.

I don't see your point though. Plenty of stuff that is passed in D.C is disgusting, authoritarian, and intrusive on the freedoms once enjoyed by Americans, just so D.C can control and manipulate the country to their benefit. In a classical liberal/libertarian society such influence would not be possible.

StonyArabia
02-09-2013, 06:35 PM
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Mason8
01-02-2014, 06:51 PM
I can talk about the benefits of implanting RFID :

The great potential of this is the shift wireless data and power without being chained to the source of inner strength. Opens gateway to many implantable devices, which require Scored skin to act. Imagine implants for people with vision problems or hearing, do not require cables leave skin, or blood test facility, nestled beneath the skin, and can get information in real time to an external device.

I do not see any problems with the RFID itself. Issues around technology are always social and political. Whether the government states that everyone go through labeling or they will be deported, so there it no real connection with RFID ... they could have just as easily, requiring fingerprints or DNA.

people who understand technology and the ability to get control over it, do not fear. Not only do they understand it, they can control it.

Prisoner Of Ice
01-02-2014, 07:01 PM
The title it's misleading cause it says " all Americans " like if all Americans were gonna let the government put a chip inside or we were gonna be forced too

And it's funny cause that'll never happen . We are not that brain washed and ignorant to let the government or Obama care put some unknown chip in our body

I don't know, it's amazing what people have tolerated so far.

CordedWhelp
01-02-2014, 07:05 PM
I don't know, it's amazing what people have tolerated so far.

True...people will be coaxed to accept this...add some motivation involving security and/or benefit and/or convenience, and there you go.

The method involves very gradual shift. Of course...twenty years ago (ten even?) there would be more resistance to this.