Classify Sicilians from Trapani. Where do they fit best?

[Sikeliot]

Trapani is the western most province of Sicily. Their history is interesting in that they have seen all of the following groups:

- Elymians, who were Anatolians
- Phoenicians, from Lebanon
- Ancient Greek settlements
- Moorish settlement from Tunisia
- Settlements from northern Italy following the Moors

And I added Spanish to the poll option too just as another point of reference. Where do they fit best?

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[Scholarios]

as usual, generally like Greeks. Some Peloponessians, some more Aegean islands. A few have some detectable Berberish ancestry possibly.

[Sikeliot]

What is interesting is that region had the least Greek settlement of the whole island. But the first people there were Anatolian.

[Scholarios]

What is interesting is that region had the least Greek settlement of the whole island. But the first people there were Anatolian.




Well, then we have to go into some stuff that will make some Greeks upset again. That is, that some Greeks are not "pure Dorians" or whatever. Some Aegean islanders like Kalymnians and Rhodians(who I spoke of tonight) have Carian ancestry. This is of course very very old and dates before the Greek Dark Ages, but it's still some truth to it.

[Sikeliot]

Well, then we have to go into some stuff that will make some Greeks upset again. That is, that some Greeks are not "pure Dorians" or whatever. Some Aegean islanders like Kalymnians and Rhodians(who I spoke of tonight) have Carian ancestry. This is of course very very old and dates before the Greek Dark Ages, but it's still some truth to it.

Who are Carians?

This guy (who is in one of the pictures above) looks very "Greek islander" to me, like a face that I see frequently when I look for pictures from Rhodes.

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[rashka]

A lot of them have that Berid look. I could detect some SSA from the faces.

[Scholarios]

Who are Carians?

This guy (who is in one of the pictures above) looks very "Greek islander" to me, like a face that I see frequently when I look for pictures from Rhodes.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carians

Herodotos, father of History was at least part Carian. So who can say he isn't Greek?

and the fellow in the photo could be Greek islanders, Cretans(who I consider a little bit separate from Aegean islanders) or from some place in Peloponesse.(i think like Southern Lakonian guy)

[rashka]

Is this couple Sicilian?
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[Queen B]

Not all of them could fit in Greece, actually.

[Scholarios]

I trust Dandelion's opinion a lot, which one do you think would not fit in Greece especially?

[Sikeliot]

Fifth woman down and the last one would be the ones I will guess she won't think look Greek.

[Queen B]

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They could fit in Greece, but I wouldn't guess them as Greeks , like in my first guess. The girl looks like blake lively in brunnete version


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The guy can easily pass as Greek, the girl is very Italian (according to the Italian tourists I have seen over the years in Greece)


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They look Levant.


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The guy would easily pass as Greek, the woman looks more Iberian though.


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She can't pass in Greece. Wouldn't suprise me as Spanish or Portuguese.


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Can pass in Greece.


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He looks very Sicilian.Nothing more nothing less. The girl's photo isn't that clear to say.


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More like an Armenian.


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Very strange angle to say, but I think she could pass here.


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Yeap, tottaly fit in Greece.


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She looks like a Jew, he look Italian.


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The guy could fit in Balkans, including Greece. The girls could fit in Balkans and Albania, but she doesn't strike me as Greek


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Yeap, could easily pass. She reminds me of someone


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Yeap

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Photo is not very clear, actually

[Sikeliot]

This one to me looks Berber/NW African, and could be Canarian Spanish too.

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