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Fortis in Arduis
02-12-2013, 06:31 AM
After extensive searching on YouTube I found only three relevant videos by the same makeup artist, which show great skill and give good advice.

I will list the points most interesting to me after each video.






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdDXptnOWj0


The use of stippling and a black water-based paint to masculinise and define the jaw with stubble is genius


Like very much the squaring off of any feminine roundness from the jaw line with a dark contouring shade





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmUXF_W21Rc


The brick-red blush is a natural-looking shade, applied to the upper cheeks under the eyes, rather than out to the sides to highlight high cheek bones, and in a way which squares rather than rounds the forehead. It hits the bridge of the nose as the sun would. It looks so natural, unlike pink or coral etc.


The bronzer is used on the sides of the face to narrow (masculinise) and to tan the bridge of the nose as would the sun





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njbLlYu7AQs


Really interesting contouring and highlighting patterns.


Male contouring of the cheekbone goes down either side of the mouth to emphasise a stronger jaw, and a longer lower face


Highlighting to strengthen and widen the mid section of the nose, which would visually narrow both the tip and the bridge! Very clever indeed


The artist applied the blusher too high up and too far from the centre for my tastes. It should (in my book) have been that red-brick shade as in the second video.




Tips of my own...




Fake tan


Apply a good highlighting shade/concealer on the outer corner of your eye and upper eyelid to hide any redness. This is also a reverse of the feminine darker outer corner of the eye emphasis.


Highlight the 'milk line' above the top lip, and the philtral columns with carefully placed lines of highlight which are then blended very slightly


After finishing with powder, remove excess makeup from the lips with vaseline and a cotton bud to create a healthy-looking discreet edge around the lips


Square the chin using a highlighting shade; a feminine chin is more triangular


Emphasise the brow (bossing) using a highlighting shade above the eyebrows, where appropriate


Highlight the inner corner of the eye for a healthy fresh look, shade the crease of the inner corner slightly, shade under the lashes at the outer corner of each eye slightly, and also a tiny bit on the top lids on the inner corner near the lash line. This is almost a total reverse of the feminine eye make-up pattern


Darken, define and possibly thicken the eyebrows downwards with a shade of eyebrow powder identical to the natural colour, emphasising the inner and central brows, the opposite of creating a feminine arched brow





What is attractive in a male face?



Broad forehead


Relatively longer lower face


Prominent chin and brow


Chiseled jaw and defined cheekbones


Red and yellow tones in the skin

randomguy1235
02-12-2013, 06:32 AM
Be prepared for the "u phaggot that's GAYYYYYYY" posts

Siberian Cold Breeze
02-12-2013, 07:08 AM
paint to masculinise

must be the key words of man make up

Snchpnz
02-12-2013, 09:04 AM
Yeah, I guess that might work if you are going out at night to a club or a dark restaurant where people can't really see much detail. If a man walks outside during the day wearing makeup he's going to look like a freak with a serious case of gayface.

Fortis in Arduis
02-12-2013, 09:20 AM
Yeah, I guess that might work if you are going out at night to a club or a dark restaurant where people can't really see much detail. If a man walks outside during the day wearing makeup he's going to look like a freak with a serious case of gayface.

The artist discusses its use in wedding photography and most high-profile politicians wear a face of slap.

For during the day I would suggest fake tan, tinted moisturiser, and a matte powder with a tiny bit of coverage that no-one would see, and maybe one of those YSL Touche Eclat concealer pens, and dusting off with some bronzing powder.

When I worked as a club promoter I piled on super thick layers of stage greasepaint and powdered a dusting of mauve corrective powder on top of it all, to look fresh under the lights, and no-one noticed that I was wearing any at all.

This is what the artist says:


How far you go with men's makeup is completely up to you. Granted i don't want people to say "look he's got foundation on" ... i want people to think i look really good. Thats it. For me - thats what makeup is all about - looking good.

Each step here is optional. They all build onto one another so take what you like and leave the rest behind.

Men wear makeup. Film stars wear markup. News readers wear makeup. And now more men in the street are wearing makeup.

I never ever ever recommend a liquid foundation for men unless they are completely shaven (face) and even then i prefer powders (mineral etc...) because they look more natural. You never want to ever looked caked in makeup. This is about enhancing what you naturally have.

Mineral foundation comes in many varieties but try and get one that is matte based or unless you have very dry skin or prefer the "moist" look then go for the original. Bare escentuals is my favourite one to use on men. It doesn't collect in the beards and looks natural.

Using blush is a scary thing but when done correctly it will give you the illusion of instant health and sun tanned skin - when combined with bronzer. The reason i use NARS exhibit A is because its brick red. All tanned skins has some form of "burn" to it. Using a colour this bright will really make you look like you've been outside in the sun. Or even on a cold winters day will make you look like you've been out for a crisp walk.

All products should contain NO SHIMMER. Mens skin should be totally matte and have no shimmer or glitter. Using products with shimmer or glitter will really draw attention to what you're doing.

Contouring the beard is completely optional but if you're fair or want to really go to town on "designer stubble" this is the way to do it. It can also help hide a double check and sharpen up the jaw line. I love this trick. However you do need some amount of stubble to begin with. WIthout this it will look "fake" upon closer inspection.

Curling your lashes can open up the eyes and give them a more awake look. Lightly coating them with a waterproof liquid liner will give the impression of black lashes without screaming "mascara" because they won't look thicker only darker. Great for fair haired gentlemen (like myself).

NOTE: NEVER EVER EVER MESS WITH YOUR EYEBROWS TOO MUCH!

Here are the steps:

1. Apply a mineral foundation or pressed powder all over the face with a kabuki brush or big fluffy brush.

2. Apply Nars Exhibit A blush to the cheek bones, bridge of the nose and temples.

3. Blend that in with the mineral foundation or pressed powder.

4. Use a bronzer around the outer part of the face. Temples. Sides of face (outer cheeks), jaw line, neck and bridge of nose.

5. Contour your beard with a black or brown product designed for this area.

6. Curl lashes.

7. Apply a waterproof liquid liner to the lashes.

Products used:

MAC Fix +
Bare Escentuals Mineral Foundation (original) in golden Beige
NARS Exhibit A blush
Bare Escentuals Faux Tan (original)
Grimas Watercolour Black (for beard)
Cozette Eyebrow Wand
MAC Eyelash Curler
MAC Pen Eyeliner (black)

Fortis in Arduis
02-18-2013, 03:39 AM
According to research at the University of Regensburg, this:





http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_sexy.jpghttp://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_unsexy.jpg

The prototypic male face of high attractiveness / The prototypic male face of low attractiveness
("sexy face") / ("unsexy face")



Browner skin


Narrower facial shape


Less fat


Fuller and more symmetrical lips


Darker eye brows


More and darker lashes


Upper half of the face broader in relation to the lower


Higher cheek bones


Prominent lower jaw


More prominent chin


No receding brows


Thinner lids


No wrinkles between nose and corner of the mouth




http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/prototypen.htm

ButlerKing
02-18-2013, 03:42 AM
That's very low class for a man to do.

I dislike when men have such vanity for themselves.

RussiaPrussia
02-18-2013, 03:48 AM
According to research at the University of Regensburg, this:





http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_sexy.jpghttp://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_unsexy.jpg

The prototypic male face of high attractiveness / The prototypic male face of low attractiveness
("sexy face") / ("unsexy face")



Browner skin


Narrower facial shape


Less fat


Fuller and more symmetrical lips


Darker eye brows


More and darker lashes


Upper half of the face broader in relation to the lower


Higher cheek bones


Prominent lower jaw


More prominent chin


No receding brows


Thinner lids


No wrinkles between nose and corner of the mouth




http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/prototypen.htm

i have seen many ones who look like nerds with the left face structures, the right one is more masculine. I am not a women, so i cant argue for them but thats my opinion.

Caismeachd
02-18-2013, 03:50 AM
He doesn't really look all that much different in the before and after but I'm sure it might help when he's at the gay clubs and there is dark and flash lighting. When I lived in SF I had a gay coworker that would wear makeup and contact lenses.

I wonder what women would think of a heterosexual man who wears makeup? If you spent the night with the guy and he kissed you and his makeup rubbed off on you what would you think about it?

PeacefulCaribbeanDutch
02-18-2013, 03:51 AM
women are getting so hot these days its hard for men to keep up :P but this is a bit strange

Jamal Hernandez
02-18-2013, 03:54 AM
This is gay unnecessary, and certainly everybody would notice it.

However you can still use men skin products without being gay.

My Favorites:
http://smashmaterials.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Biotherm-Men.jpg

http://manface.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/high-recharge-eye-shot.jpg

Fortis in Arduis
02-18-2013, 04:04 AM
The following answer comes from research into facial feminisation:


http://www.virtualffs.co.uk/my%20FFS%20thesis%20images/prototype-double-animation.gif


The easiest way for a human to see the differences between 2 faces is to superimpose them and flick between them so I have animated the images to do this

Lets now look at the differences between male and female faces feature by feature as revealed by the prototypes combined with the established scientific research.



1. Hairline:
The female hairline is higher in the middle, lower in the corners and has a rounded shape. The male hairline is lower in the middle, higher in the corners and has more of a square or “M” shape.



2. Forehead:
The male forehead has a bony ridge running across it at about eyebrow level (brow bossing) while the female forehead is smoother and flatter. The female forehead is also more vertical while the male forehead tends to slope backwards a little. Male foreheads are more likely to have more pronounced vertical ridges (temporal lines) running up either side. The profile prototype suggests that the area above the bossing in the male may be slightly indented but I would want to see more profile prototypes to be sure about that.



3. Eyebrows:
The top edge of the eyebrows is at about the same height (or very slightly higher in females in a minority of prototypes) but female eyebrows are thinner so that the bottom edge of the eyebrow sits in a noticeably higher position and creates a bigger gap between the eye and the eyebrow. This gives the erroneous impression that women's eyebrows are significantly higher than men's rather than mainly thinner. The gap between the eyebrows is wider in females but this is likely again to be down to plucking.



4. Eyes:
Females have larger eyes in proportion to the face and the eyes have a more open expression with the top lid lifted a little more than in the male. The prototypes suggest that females have a stronger “canthal tilt” than males which means that female eyes are more slanted from the outer corners down to the inner corners than male eyes are. Internally, female orbits tend to be larger in proportion to the rest of the face and more rounded while male orbits tend to be smaller and more square. The inner edge of the orbit is sharper and rougher in females than in males. These differences in the orbits are unlikely to be relevant to FFS. In white people, the base of the nose seems to be about the same width as the eye for females but somewhat wider than the eye in males.



5. Cheeks:
The fleshy part or “apple” of female cheeks contains more fat than the male and is therefore fuller and rounder – male cheeks tend to be much more hollow here. The width of the cheekbones is about the same in men and women when compared to the distance between the eyes. Internally, the female cheekbone reaches back as far as the opening of the ear and the male cheekbone reaches a little further back than the opening of the ear. The male cheekbone is also thicker. These internal differences are unlikely to be relevant in FFS – I believe the apple of the cheeks is the key and therefore that the emphasis in FFS should be on fat grafts to the apple of the cheeks rather than augmentation of the cheekbone with implants.



6. Nose:
In the front view, the nose is narrower in females with smaller, less flared nostrils. There is some evidence from prototypes that the columella (the bit between the nostrils) sits a little lower relative to the nostrils in females. In the profile view, the base of the female nose has more of an upwards angle than the male. The female nose has a shorter (more blunt) tip than the male. The male nasion (the area where the nose meets the forehead) stands further forwards of the eyes than in the female because the nose is larger. Internally the nasal aperture in the skull in higher and narrower in males with a sharper angle where the 2 sides meet at the top.



7 Mouth:
The female mouth sits in a higher position than the male mouth. In the frontal view, the prototypes suggest that the female's lower lip has slightly more of a "V" shape while the lower lip of males is a little more "U" shaped. I have not seen that mentioned in any other studies. However, this difference is very small and may be irrelevant in FFS. Male and female mouths are actually very similar in the frontal view with very similar sized areas of vermilion exposed. This lead me to question why fuller lips “seem” more feminine but we can see the answer to that in the profile view of the prototype where the female lips are fatter, bulging forwards (anteriorly) a little more than male lips despite the amount of vermillion exposed being pretty much the same in the frontal view. I have not seen this mentioned in any other studies. In real life we would see the additional fullness from the front also because we see in 3D - it's only in a 2D frontal picture that the fullness is invisible. A lip lift which rolls the top lip out exposing more vermilion is still relevant in FFS because although women don't actually have a greater exposure of vermilion, having a little more exposed could help give the impression of fullness.

When a woman's mouth is open, her upper incisors are more likely to be exposed by a few mm than in the male. Internally, the male palate is proportionately wider than the female palate though this is largely irrelevant in FFS.

Males tend to have more pronounced and therefore more noticeable muscles around the mouth. The particular muscles that show are the obicularis oris which encircles the mouth and to a lesser extent, the triangularis which sits outside and below the corners of the mouth. The projection of the obicularis oris is emphasised by the hollowness of the apple of the cheeks in males.



8. Chin:
The female chin is shorter and narrower than the male chin. The prototypes suggest that the female chin is rounded rather than slightly pointed or almond shaped as some people believe. This mistaken belief may be based on the fact that internally, the female chin is somewhat pointed and this is therefore how it is often described in studies. The more relevant view for us in FFS is the external view and in that, the female chin is rounded. The male chin tends to be more square with a flat base an 2 corners.

The prototypes suggest that the male chin projects forwards a little more than the female chin if you compare to the nearest relevant landmark which is the area between the nose and top lip (this is relevant because it gives a clear vertical line by which the eye can judge the chin protrusion). I have not found any other studies yet giving male and female chin protrusion figures.

I have made a small study that suggests chin clefts might be a little more common in men than women. This simply involved counting the chin clefts on 50 male and 50 female faces – all randomly selected and I found that 58% of males had a visible cleft against 38% of women. This may be partly to do with the extra layer of fat that women have although that is just a guess. If it is down to that then hormones might reduce a mild cleft a little. More importantly, although they are a little more common on men they are still very common on women – so common in fact that a chin cleft can not really be considered a masculinity in my opinion. For this reason I do not think that they are an important consideration in FFS and are really more of personal preference issue. I would like to see more studies on the frequency of chin clefts in males and females as I feel my study is too small at the moment to be fully reliable.

The profile prototypes also suggest that the line between the chin and neck is fairly flat in females and slopes down a little from front to back a little in males. I suspect this is not particularly relevant in feminisation as it is not an area we see clearly in most interactions. This may be an anomaly in my prototypes so I would like to see more profile prototypes to verify this.



9. Jaw:
The female jaw is more delicate being vertically shorter and narrower. If you look at a male jaw from the side, the ramus (the vertical part at the back) is taller and more upright making the jaw into a right angle with a sharp corner. The female ramus is shorter, slopes backwards a little and has a rounded corner. Males often have more pronounced masseter muscles. Many people expect mens jaws to be wider in relation to their cheeks than women's but in fact women's cheeks are actually only a tiny bit wider than male's in relation to the jaw. This is too small a difference to really be significant and reduction of the masseter muscles from estrogen is likely to be enough to bring an average jaw to cheek width ratio into female norms. As I mentioned in part 1, I believe that the importance of the jaw is sometimes overstated in FFS because the corners are reasonably well hidden; they do not play a major role in gender recognition and wide jaws with aquare corners are very common on attractive women.



10. Neck:
The male neck is thicker than the female neck and males often have a visible Adam's apple. However, despite what many people believe, women often have a small but visible Adam's apple



11. Ears:
The prototypes suggest that male ears stick out more. I feel this is largely irrelevant for FFS but It is interesting.



12. Skin:
Female skin is paler than male skin in all ethnic groups and has a softer texture. Male skin is thicker and more oily than female skin,



13. Beard:
Males generally have a beard and therefore a beard shadow.



14 Other Differences:
The ridges and protrusions where muscles attach to the bones are generally more pronounced in the male skull. Examples include the "mastoid process" that protrudes below the ears and and the "inion" which is a bump on the back of the head and the female skull overall is smaller and more delicate than the male.



Controversies?

Well possibly: firstly I've shown that the male hairline is not higher than the female in the middle; secondly that female eyebrows are not or are only very slightly higher than the male; thirdly that male jaws are not significantly wider in proportion to the cheeks than female jaws.

There is more to male and female facial differences than individual features and in the next section we will look at how features relate to each other.

http://www.virtualffs.co.uk/My_Facial_Feminisation_Thesis_Part_4_Sexual_Dimorp hism_of_the_Face_Feature_by_Feature.html

RussiaPrussia
02-18-2013, 04:05 AM
women are getting so hot these days its hard for men to keep up :P but this is a bit strange

its media perception, simple dont hunt for every women at every time, if men would stop trying to hit on everything we would be treated more nicely by women.

Fortis in Arduis
02-18-2013, 04:55 AM
i have seen many ones who look like nerds with the left face structures, the right one is more masculine. I am not a women, so i cant argue for them but thats my opinion.

This research proved that attactiveness =/= average facial composites, which is interesting.

I am not sure if the test subjects who rated the images were male, female, homo or hetero, but to me:

This guy looks pleasant:

http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_sexy.jpg

and this guy is more fat in the face and pasty, with thinning eyebrows and a receding hairline:

http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_unsexy.jpg

:shrug:

I am not sure where masculinity affects male attractiveness, but research showed that attractive traits were almost identical between men and women with the following attractive traits being ascribed solely to women:


Slightly bigger distance of eyes

Dark, but thinner eye brows

Longer lashes

Narrower nose



and these solely to men:


More symmetrical lips

Upper half of the face broader in relation to the lower

Prominent lower jaw

More prominent chin

No wrinkles between nose and corner of the mouth

No receding hair line


Many attractive women have prominent jaws, and this research into attractiveness did not cover facial sexual dimorphism as a factor, so far as I can see.

iNird
02-18-2013, 05:01 AM
OP is a phaggot.

Fortis in Arduis
02-18-2013, 06:25 AM
Fake tan


Eyebrows tinted a shade darker


Eyelashes tinted a shade darker


Haircut which might flatter a receding hairline


Facial topiary to emphasise the lower jaw and chin


I once had my eyelashes tinted a shade darker and it looked a little strong, but no-one noticed except I.

This is where Anders Behring Breivik went so wrong; he should have tinted his eyebrows and eyelashes as well as tanning and applying foundation if the aim was to look like this:



http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_sexy.jpg

Sexy



as opposed to this:



http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/prototypen/m_unsexy.jpg

Unsexy

This composite average of less-attractive faces has:



Pasty complexion


Lighter eye brows


Fewer, lighter eyelashes


Less prominent lower jaw


Less prominent chin


Receding hairline

larali
02-18-2013, 09:40 PM
Hm, better show hub this video.

EagleAtHeart
02-21-2013, 01:50 AM
I use concealer under my eyes, but it looks natural. That's as far as I'll go with make up though

Oneeye
02-21-2013, 02:36 AM
Make sure that you keep your make up "spartan" enough to all fit in your man-purse...

Fortis in Arduis
06-04-2013, 01:51 PM
Well, fake-tanning and tinting my brows and lashes to a darker brown colour has been successful for me.

I am employing the same Kryolan greasepaint that I have had for the last ten years, applied with a damp sponge and finished with loose invisible powder. I use three different shades, one as a general base, which I might mix with the darker shade if I am tanned, and then another lighter shade to highlight the milk line above the top lip, to brighten the eye area and the chin, and a darker shade to contour the temples and narrow the face. When all that is done I might define the eyebrows with some charcoal-brown eyebrow powder and possibly put some down on the outer lower lashes and shade the crease of the inner eye fold. I might use the same shade on the lash line of the inner upper eyelid. Putting a cerise pencil to the upper eyelids near the tear ducts seems to brighten the eyes, then finally, I highlight the inner corner of the eyes with a lighter light-reflecting powder, and apply some brick-red rouge to the cheekbones, in line with the eyes and a touch on the forehead above the eyebrows and on the bridge of nose and chin. It works.

mr. logan
06-04-2013, 01:59 PM
mr. bateman tells me he wants to have sex with you.
Anyways, women must see makeup fast. So I guess this is from School of Guidos manual.

morski
06-04-2013, 02:05 PM
Male make-up:

http://cdn04.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gosling-black/ryan-gosling-black-eye-07.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NaRAwyVrlKc/TA9hYdM-doI/AAAAAAAAAHY/EZbeDIIfVAs/s1600/IMG_0673.JPG
http://www.timescolonist.com/polopoly_fs/1.92161.1363388721!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_563/ondc234-315-2013-130649-high-jpg.jpg
http://content5.videojug.com/85/85762dfa-ca98-4837-1ae1-ff0008c9d406/how-to-get-rid-of-a-hickey.WidePlayer.jpg?v2

morski
06-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Or just:

https://sites.google.com/a/beardleague.org/rva/meet-the-league/travis-oliver/Travis%20Oliver%20headshot1.JPG

Fortis in Arduis
06-04-2013, 02:11 PM
I might post some photos of my face just before I tint my lashes four weeks from now, and then show everything from the fake-tanning to the finished face. I think that it would make sense then, and you could see how it is done.