Do you want your country to leave EU?

[B01AB20]

I read here many opinions of european members of EU states disliking the EU.
Me for example, I'd like the EU to vanish into air or at least my country to leave.
So for curiosity purposes I have post a poll where you can vote if you want your country to leave the EU, or not.
If you're not from an EU member state is senseless to vote in the poll.

[Szegedist]

Yes, and according to the latest poll so do the majority of my countrymen.

[Sippola]

Hey man, where's the poll? :)

[alfieb]

Yes. I would prefer Med Union with Spain, Italy, Greece, etc.

[Damião de Góis]

I don't know how life would be without the EU, since it's the only reality i know. I think a more immediate option would be leaving the Euro.

[B01AB20]

Hey man, where's the poll? :)

I can see it now...

but you're american, maybe is for that that you don't see it. :cool:

last european technology man.

[Sippola]

I can see it now...

but you're american, maybe is for that that you don't see it. :cool:

last european technology man.

Haha...I see it now....yes, you are correct in that we are behind everyone when it comes to technology...



EDIT: ok, I voted because I am still a Finn.

[ButlerKing]

YES! E.U is clearly collapsing.

[Žołnir]

I am neutral altho atm Slovenia more benefits EU membership than not. Imo most problems in my country are of domestic origin not resoult of EU + crisis is world wide. There are certantly many issues with EU which i would change however.

[B01AB20]

I don't know how life would be without the EU, since it's the only reality i know. I think a more immediate option would be leaving the Euro.

you should vote NO then.

it's more about a radical rejection of EU.

you would change some things, like everybody else I guess, but you would prefer be better in than out.

[B01AB20]

Yes. I would prefer Med Union with Spain, Italy, Greece, etc.

etc = morroco. algeria, egypt, turkey...?

or have you changed your maind about a 'Med Union'?

remember your thread about the med union of Sarcozy...

[Germanicus]

The continued membership of the EU is destroying Britain, we should vote for leaving it as soon as the conservative goverment implements a vote for the British public.
Mass immigration, and the European human rights have destroyed Britains moral fibre, and the uniqueness of being British, and it will never be he same again, unless we become an island race again and deport the foreigners from our culture.



I cannot vote in the poll because the App above it is interfering with it!!!!!

[GermanisedSlav]

the countries with a fucked up eceonomy should leave that only ,germany,france etc stay..

[Virtuous]

Nope. Reasons are: Our economy is growing pretty well (because we manage well), we're receiving help and subsidies for projects within regulations, it gives us voice and helps us communicate better with our mainland friends.

[Germanicus]

Nope. Reasons are: Our economy is growing pretty well (because we manage well), we're receiving help and subsidies for projects within regulations, it gives us voice and helps us communicate better with our mainland friends.

In fairness Malta your little island contributes nothing at all to the Eu, it is little shit kicking places like Malta that receives all the benefits from larger states and tax payers like myself.
Malta for years has been a donkey economy like Spain and Portugal, Ireland and the like.!!!!

[Baluarte]

Yes. I would prefer Med Union with Spain, Italy, Greece, etc.

I agree wholeheartedly with you. That union could work.
Hell, it might even one day include the French if they ever stop being such uptight arrogant cunts.
It should however have a strong Greco-latin cultural foundation so to not include later Maghrebian things.

Remains to be said though, that no single currency should exist, nor single government. Pre-Maastrict Europe could be a good cooperation model.

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On topic:

I'm not an European so I cannot really opine, yet, if it helps, a lot of people I know including my girlfriend want their countries to stay in the European Union, but do not want to make part of the Euro zone, more or less like Sweden/Denmark.

[member]

I think my country could learn a lot from richer EU countries so that the people would be more satisfied, richer and happier in and with their own country.

But I don't like obsession wth gays and blacks. There was this concert on tv called mES Europa (mes - we, ES - EU) which translates as we EU are Europe. That show promoted the rights of blacks and other non white people. It was financed by EU obviously. You could think that the only condition in order to be European is to accept blacks and co. in all possible ways. As if being European circulates about your views on blacks exceptionally. Why don't they better talk that many Europeans can't properly tell where this or that European country is located, etc. instead of showing that circus. And let me note that those blacks and others have been living in my country only for several years. They wouldn't be accepted as locals or just generally Europeans anywhere!

[B01AB20]

The continued membership of the EU is destroying Britain, we should vote for leaving it as soon as the conservative goverment implements a vote for the British public.
Mass immigration, and the European human rights have destroyed Britains moral fibre, and the uniqueness of being British, and it will never be he same again, unless we become an island race again and deport the foreigners from our culture.

Well, I had the impresion that the U.K. is by their own the most politically correct and immigrant (the darker the better:p) lover country you can imagine, no need the EU for that.




I cannot vote in the poll because the App above it is interfering with it!!!!!

the evil propaganda man.:cool:

[B01AB20]

Nope. Reasons are: Our economy is growing pretty well (because we manage well), we're receiving help and subsidies for projects within regulations, it gives us voice and helps us communicate better with our mainland friends.

respectable reasons.

[B01AB20]

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On topic:

I'm not an European so I cannot really opine, yet, if it helps, a lot of people I know including my girlfriend want their countries to stay in the European Union, but do not want to make part of the Euro zone, more or less like Sweden/Denmark.

What I read about the matter is, EU needs more economic, fiscal and politic integration... and that means, more euro and more power for the powerful ones, or better the powerful one... germany, the rest are simply obedient pawns or directly slaves or germany....

NO, Gracias.

[Virtuous]

In fairness Malta your little island contributes nothing at all to the Eu, it is little shit kicking places like Malta that receives all the benefits from larger states and tax payers like myself.
Malta for years has been a donkey economy like Spain and Portugal, Ireland and the like.!!!!

Shit places like Malta that don't contribute to EU? What are you on about?

We had to give our part to bail Greece's banks like everyone did, we always loaned money within the limits consented, we are a hotspot for tourism and companies investing in technology/research. Do you think that if we were as shitty as you think Malta would have joined EU in the first place?

Go take your egotistical ignorant speech elsewhere because if your country or other countries within the Eurozone are going bankrupt it's because of the Politicians' greediness and inability to manage the budget well.

[Graham]

The continued membership of the EU is destroying Britain,

The Conservatives & Labour are doing a good job of destroying the UK also.

Osborne & his austerity, it's driving up the debt-GDP % & dropped the credit rating, first since 1978! Labour put us all in the debt mess, with long term loans like the PFI's. These hugely long term loan deals. We'll never pay back.

Is it the EU's fault, that we've let in migrants, from outside the EU? Pakistan & Africa.

You can't blame the banks or the EU for everything, British mentality.

[B01AB20]

I think my country could learn a lot from richer EU countries so that the people would be more satisfied, richer and happier in and with their own country.

But I don't like obsession wth gays and blacks. There was this concert on tv called mES Europa (mes - we, ES - EU) which translates as we EU are Europe. That show promoted the rights of blacks and other non white people. It was financed by EU obviously. You could think that the only condition in order to be European is to accept blacks and co. in all possible ways. As if being European circulates about your views on blacks exceptionally. Why don't they better talk that many Europeans can't properly tell where this or that European country is located, etc. instead of showing that circus. And let me note that those blacks and others have been living in my country only for several years. They wouldn't be accepted as locals or just generally Europeans anywhere!

don't know about this particular affair, but theorically EU organizations are a reflection of EU parliament, and EU parliament is a reflection of what european people vote.

I mean there are ultra right wing politicians in EU, but the liberal leftists are the majority by now.

[Virtuous]

don't know about this particular affair, but theorically EU organizations are a reflection of EU parliament, and EU parliament is a reflection of what european people vote.

I mean there are ultra right wing politicians in EU, but the liberal leftists are the majority by now.

Socialists with false promises and as Graham said cultural Marxists are destroying EU.

[Lusos]

[QUOTE=ironman;1399934]The continued membership of the EU is destroying Britain, we should vote for leaving it as soon as the conservative goverment implements a vote for the British public.
Mass immigration, and the European human rights have destroyed Britains moral fibre, and the uniqueness of being British, and it will never be he same again, unless we become an island race again and deport the foreigners from our culture.


Mass immigration-True.But It's not an EU problem as most of the immigrants In England are from outside Europe.

" European human rights have destroyed Britains moral fibre"
I completely agree but I would extend the damage to almost every Euro Nation.
Human rights=Compensation=Easy Money=Lawyer dream.


I think EU is good in a few aspects.The primary and fundamental problem for me,is that of someone else that not even speaks my Language,does not In some cases I'm sure never put foot into Portugal.And they came along and impose rules and shit.
And lately that"The Findus and others Toxic Horse meat for Beef should be given to the Poor"

[Graham]

Voted to leave the EU, only for one reason;

I don't like big countries with a centralised power.

That's the way I see the EU going.

[member]

don't know about this particular affair, but theorically EU organizations are a reflection of EU parliament, and EU parliament is a reflection of what european people vote.

I mean there are ultra right wing politicians in EU, but the liberal leftists are the majority by now.

Western Europeans are more tolerant indeed but the problem is people in my country think differently. There are many negative issues going on of course, but I don't think that EU should be overly trying to shape our ethnic identity or lack of it. Western Europeans, nor their politicians shouldn't be deciding such internal questions. In reality I don't think the mentioned example means a lot but it still looks funny. We are too conservative (though the young and educated city dwellers lean towards the liberal side). When my people voted for joing EU, they thought more about the economical side and reduction of corruption, etc. Gays and stuff like that, it is not even accepted to talk about them, they're irrelevant.

[B01AB20]

Western Europeans are more tolerant indeed but the problem is people in my country think differently. There are many negative issues going on of course, but I don't think that EU should be overly trying to shape our ethnic identity or lack of it. Western Europeans, nor their politicians shouldn't be deciding such internal questions. In reality I don't think the mentioned example means a lot but it still looks funny. We are too conservative (though the young and educated city dwellers lean towards the liberal side). When my people voted for joing EU, they thought more about the economical side and reduction of corruption, etc. Gays and stuff like that, it is not even accepted to talk about them, they're irrelevant.

Do you think it's a cuestion of western versus eastern european mentality?

I don't think so; look at Spain, the country come from a long conservative quasi-religious militar dictatorship for over 40 years, and look at us now; gays, feminazis and multiculturalists are almost the only voices allowed to spread their ideology into society... and I don't have the impression that west europe forced Spain to become such a 'progressive' country, it was an internal affair, mainly owed to the 8 years of progressive goverments of socialist Zapatero.

Be aware of the lithuanians Zapateros and don't fear west-europe... which is becoming more and more right-wing every election; even the socialist frenchis in power now are more anti-immigrant that Sarcozy was.

[EnglishNS14]

The EU is anti-democratic and corrupt as it gets. I suppose the original idea for it's foundation was Ok, but it's now gained increasingly overwhelming power and is just a club for unelected bureaucrats and self-serving hypocrites. None of these leaders care about us, the European People.

Britain should withdraw from the EU, definitely, and it's only a matter of time before we do. UKIP who I agree with on most things but are generally far too moderate for me, are gaining increasing support, rapidly, and anti-EU sentiment is gladly flourishing.

The negatives of being a member of the EU far outweigh the positives. Norway and Switzerland are not members of the superstate and look at them! Both prosperous, wealthy Nations. Are you telling me the EU is necessary for Britain? Give me a break.

As for the Euro, it was always doomed to fail.

[gold_fenix]

it is clear that the EU has failed, the euro was a total disaster

[Graham]

it is clear that the EU has failed, the euro was a total disaster

A currency Union only works, if all countries can agree to give away their financial independence & agree to be regulated. Otherwise, doesn't work. As has been found.

[Germanicus]

[QUOTE=B01AB20;1400245]Well, I had the impresion that the U.K. is by their own the most politically correct and immigrant (the darker the better:p) lover country you can imagine. /[QUOTE]

I cannot deny this fact, it is political and and global conspiracy to force ethnics amongst the nationals of countries, forcing down the wages and weaken the trades unions.

[Peikko]

I oppose EU, because it's very undemocratic and power is too centralized. A smal advanced country like Finland should never be in a union with big countries like Germany and France who basically have united to make all the decisions. Now the rest of us can just watch and obey.

Finland never broke the fiscal rules. The others did (including France and Germany at the beginning of 2000s). Finland has contributed to bail outs more than most countries (relative to the size of the economy). What a great deal it has been.

[Corvus]

Yes that would be great. I am sick of this club. I no longer want to be ruled by anonymous institutions who just care
for the great multinational cooperations and intend to destroy the autonomy of the single nations.

[Grenzland]

Destroy the EU now!

Give back the independence and stop controlling my country!

[Virtuous]

I want European Unity, lots of things are good with EU but many things are not, such as what Corvus said.

[Grenzland]

Nothing against a European cooperation, but not with this system. There is no hope for the EU. Better to end this now.

[Virtuous]

Nothing against a European cooperation, but not with this system. There is no hope for the EU. Better to end this now.

Lets look at it in this way, unfortunately we are a minority within a brainwashed majority that vote for their own Prime Ministers and MEP's, people can overthrow any leader whenever they want, so essentially it's the people themselves the problem. So what if we elect the right MEP's?

[Graham]

I know some hate the open borders, but I think that's one of the EU's strong points.

[Leliana]

I want Germany and Austria to leave EU and Eurozone, everything has become a burden and source of stress and dislike. :stop00010: A freer and more loose Northern European Community could work better.

[Shkembe Chorba]

Euroscepticism would soon be dead.

National countries are supported in EU, so noting not to like here.

[Roy]

No, leaving would make no sense for Poland.

[Baluarte]

Euroscepticism would soon be dead.

National countries are supported in EU, so noting not to like here.

:picard2: Beyond naive. Needs a new word.

[Graus]

We should dissolve the current union and just have free trade instead.

[Baluarte]

We should dissolve the current union and just have free trade instead.

That still doesn't fix the competitivity problems of a lot of countries. Free trade is a problem in itself. It's a domination tool since the days of the British Empire.

[Graus]

That still doesn't fix the competitivity problems of a lot of countries. Free trade is a problem in itself. It's a domination tool since the days of the British Empire.

And I care for that as a German, because.....? Its in the interest of my nation, at least on a European scale.

[RussiaPrussia]

i want my country to change this organisation

[Shkembe Chorba]

:picard2: Beyond naive. Needs a new word.
You are from Cyprus, I dont expect to have other opinion on the subject.

[Baluarte]

Even a person from the Solomon Islands with a shred of common sense wouldn't say "Euroscepticism will soon be dead"

[Shkembe Chorba]

Okay.

[Grenzland]

Euroscepticism would soon be dead.


Why? Because the EU makes everything better?

[Shkembe Chorba]

Because in recession the hope and the faith in institution decreases.

I believe in self-regulation.

[Baluarte]

Because in recession the hope and the faith in institution decreases.

I believe in self-regulation.

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/uploads/2/TIMEpersonOfTheYearUsefulIdiot.jpg

[Shkembe Chorba]

Meh.

You wont change a shit.

[Baluarte]

Not the point of what I'm saying. True, the EU will continue doing what it does regardless of what any of us thinks.
The difference is that useful idiots legitimize it and allow it to replenish its political capital.

[Ivan Kramskoï]

Most of the decison made by the UE harm europeans ( quite an irony), with the empoverishment due to debt crisis and also immigration of non white and its consequences (islamisation, miscegention ...)
So yes

[The Lawspeaker]

I want Germany and Austria to leave EU and Eurozone, everything has become a burden and source of stress and dislike. :stop00010: A freer and more loose Northern European Community could work better.

As soon as Germany walks out so should we. In fact: we should walk out together. Both Germany and the Low Countries have earned nothing from the EU and only lost a great deal.

[Shkembe Chorba]

http://i.imm.io/182qe.jpeg

[Grenzland]

If Germany leaves the EU there will no longer be an EU...

[B01AB20]

If Germany leaves the EU there will no longer be an EU...

and what are you waiting for?

[Comte Arnau]

I read here many opinions of european members of EU states disliking the EU.
Me for example, I'd like the EU to vanish into air or at least my country to leave.
So for curiosity purposes I have post a poll where you can vote if you want your country to leave the EU, or not.
If you're not from an EU member state is senseless to vote in the poll.

Well, you know which the fastest way to be outside the EU would be for us Catalonians, right? :whistle:

[B01AB20]

^^ yeah, but I try not to think much about it, two opposing premises in the same mind are self-destructive, must choose one, and I have chosen not to be indepentist, but if independence comes some day and with that the 'out of the EU' too it would be a consolation for me, although I'd like better live 10 or 15 years after that scenario. The early years of an independent and out of EU catalonia would be very fucked economic and political times I think.

[Albion]

We should leave the EU, but continue to trade with Europe but also seek greater trade ties around the world. Our trade is too dependent upon the EU and America, we need to get trading with the Commonwealth and China more.