North Korea not a Marxist State but a Fascist one

[RussiaPrussia]

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/292562-1

[Vesuvian Sky]

Juche


The Juche Idea, sometimes spelled Chuch'e (Chosŏn'gŭl: 주체; Hancha: 主體; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]), is a political thesis of Kim Il-sung which says that the Korean masses are the masters of the country's development. From the 1950s to the 1970s, Kim and other party theorists such as Hwang Jang-yop elaborated the Juche Idea into a set of principles that the government uses to justify its policy decisions. Among these are a strong military posture and reliance on Korean national resources. The name comes from juche, the Korean translation for the philosophical and Marxist term "subject",[1] also meaning "main body" or "mainstream", and is sometimes translated in North Korean sources as "independent stand" or "spirit of self-reliance". It has also been interpreted as "always putting Korean things first".[2]:414 According to Kim Il-sung, the Juche Idea is based on the belief that "man is the master of everything and decides everything".

[Vesuvian Sky]

Interesting video. Guy was really good. Some key points:

1. Japanese occupation of Korea was brutal and heavy handed but Japanese tried to brainwash them with the "Yamamoto people" concept. Ergo, there were actually Korean leaders who supported Japanese imperialism in Korean up till 1945. Alot of this had to with average Korean being highly poor and uneducated. They were easy to brainwash back then (and apparently still so in the North..).

2. Juche is just boiler plate to make Dear Fatso look like a brilliant political ideologue compared to Mao.

3. N. Korea is military first. It actually removed the term Communism from its constitution. It cares not for economic success at all today and frames its existence in terms of a race with moral superiority. The racial component is what inspires its citizens who leave the country to actually bribe their way back in.

4. N. Korea exists based on its ability to define its people as a superior morally pure race.

5. Kim Il Sung was a matenal figure more then paternal. His cult of personality is based on his ability to nuture the NK people more like a mother would. Far cry from 'man of Steel' cult of Stalin.

6. Marxism has nothing to do with NK. Lenin and Stalin would acknowledge race in America and refer to the US workers as proletariat yet NK frames its existence in terms of NK race against the "Yankee race".

7. Anti-Japanese sentiment has actually risen in S. Korea since the 1980's.

8. S. Korean can be thought of as the second most nationalistic/xenophobic country in the world.

9. N. Korea has backed itself into an ideological corner with really no other option but to go on as a military first state.

10. North Korea can be summed up better as a "Hikikomori state" rather then anything else.

11. Best way to get NK to fall is to perhaps persuade China to allow it to fall but this will never happen since it loves buying cheap minerals from N. Korea.

[RussiaPrussia]

Interesting video. Guy was really good. Some key points:

1. Japanese occupation of Korea was brutal and heavy handed but Japanese tried to brainwash them with the "Yamamoto people" concept. Ergo, there were actually Korean leaders who supported Japanese imperialism in Korean up till 1945. Alot of this had to with average Korean being highly poor and uneducated. They were easy to brainwash back then (and apparently still so in the North..).

2. Juche is just boiler plate to make Dear Fatso look like a brilliant political ideologue compared to Mao.

3. N. Korea is military first. It actually removed the term Communism from its constitution. It cares not for economic success at all today and frames its existence in terms of a race with moral superiority. The racial component is what inspires its citizens who leave the country to actually bribe their way back in.

4. N. Korea exists based on its ability to define its people as a superior morally pure race.

5. Kim Il Sung was a matenal figure more then paternal. His cult of personality is based on his ability to nuture the NK people more like a mother would. Far cry from 'man of Steel' cult of Stalin.

6. Marxism has nothing to do with NK. Lenin and Stalin would acknowledge race in America and refer to the US workers as proletariat yet NK frames its existence in terms of NK race against the "Yankee race".

7. Anti-Japanese sentiment has actually risen in S. Korea since the 1980's.

8. S. Korean can be thought of as the second most nationalistic/xenophobic country in the world.

9. N. Korea has backed itself into an ideological corner with really no other option but to go on as a military first state.

10. North Korea can be summed up better as a "Hikikomori state" rather then anything else.

11. Best way to get NK to fall is to perhaps persuade China to allow it to fall but this will never happen since it loves buying cheap minerals from N. Korea.

:P nice so my posting of interesting videos is sometimes worth it as some people watch them.

[Scholarios]

Yes, here in South Korea they still sometimes refer to themselves as "Dan-Il Min Jok".. the Clean Race. Saw this guy speak in Seoul a few times, his ideas are generally correct, but not that groundbreaking for those who have studied Korea outside of the mainstream news.

I've seen this video a few times and have the book. It's too bad his other work is a little more obscure and doesn't attract as much attention. Non-Korean speakers aren't really interested in socialist realism as portrayed in North Korean dramas and literature.

[Vesuvian Sky]

:P nice so my posting of interesting videos is sometimes worth it as some people watch them.

I like seeing various posts relating to Eurasian politics particularly this area. So keep 'em coming.


I've seen this video a few times and have the book. It's too bad his other work is a little more obscure and doesn't attract as much attention. Non-Korean speakers aren't really interested in socialist realism as portrayed in North Korean dramas and literature.

Are there a few good books or articles you could recommend on this subject.

[Scholarios]

I like seeing various posts relating to Eurasian politics particularly this area. So keep 'em coming.



Are there a few good books or articles you could recommend on this subject.

Well, B.R. Myers' book "The Cleanest Race" is good and now in paperback edition. Last time I checked it's also on Scribd. He also had a few articles on the Atlantic based around similar themes that are worthwhile. He's probably writing again given the North Korea nuclear tests.

http://www.theatlantic.com/b-r-myers

He also did a series of interviews in NK.net here:

http://en.nknet.org/writings/nk-vision/no32/br-myers-interview-part1-propaganda-artists/

This was also a similar article about North Korea and the American novel "Gone with the Wind" where it described how they see themselves are representing the South in the American Civil War. Definitely interesting

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/reading-gone-wind-pyongyang

This was also a good one from a few decades back written by the Swedish ambassador to North Korea. A little outdated but one of the most complete narratives on North Korean life and politics every written. If you can find it for a cheap price, it's really a classic: North Korea Under Communism: Envoy to Paradise

http://www.amazon.com/North-Korea-under-Communism-Paradise/dp/0700716920