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Brännvin
08-16-2009, 07:32 PM
Surprised by the figures of Japan and Russia

http://i26.tinypic.com/rii0di.jpg

This come from the nationmaster.com (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_abo-health-abortions) I have no idea as credible are the statistics though.

lei.talk
08-17-2009, 01:08 AM
these numbers relative to population
and births
would be instructive.
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The Lawspeaker
08-17-2009, 01:24 AM
I am surprised that we aren't even in the top 20....

Æmeric
08-17-2009, 01:33 AM
these numbers relative to population
and births
would be instructive.

Russia has less then 1/2 the population of the US but more then twice as many abortions. Russia (population 142 million) has about 1.5 million births a year, so there are roughly 1,800 abortions per 1,000 live births in Russia. The US (population 306 million) has approximately 4.3 million births per year, so that comes to roughly 279 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Why is the UK not on that list?

Tabiti
08-17-2009, 10:24 AM
According to me most cases are caused by many people (especially teens) thinking Coitus interruptus and calendar methods always work...

Mrs Ulf
08-17-2009, 11:47 AM
Healthcare probably plays a big role in abortion rates. Especially if you look at Canada on the list. An abortion will be $200-$800, having a child can cost upwards of $3000. But if the country is taking care of your medical for having a child, your probably more likely to keep it.

Lulletje Rozewater
08-17-2009, 11:57 AM
South African number of abortions on adult women has jumped from 32,679 to 71,856 during the same time period. (in 2006)
This does not include teeners and illegal abortions

Treffie
08-22-2009, 11:21 AM
Healthcare probably plays a big role in abortion rates. Especially if you look at Canada on the list. An abortion will be $200-$800, having a child can cost upwards of $3000. But if the country is taking care of your medical for having a child, your probably more likely to keep it.

Not necessarily. Non private healthcare is (almost) free in the UK, we've got one of the world's abortion records (UK wasn't on the list)


The number of women having an abortion in England and Wales exceeded 200,000 for the first time last year.

There has been an increased figure almost every year since the legalisation of abortion in 1967 – and the indications are this year's figure will be even higher.
Nadine Dorries, Conservative MP for Mid Bedfordshire, pictured for DAILY MAIL interview with Sarah Sands, in which she discusses the decision by Conservative Party leader David Cameron to vote to lower the legal limit for for

'Pro-life': Tory MP Nadine Dorries has hit out at abortions which she believes are 'becoming a form of contraception'

Britain's termination rate is already the highest in Western Europe, and if trends continue it will bypass the U.S. within a decade as the place where the greatest proportion of births are terminated.

The shocking figures came just months after MPs rejected moves to restrict abortion to under 20 weeks only, in a bid to call a halt to the year-on-year rises.

The limit for social abortions stayed at 24 weeks.

Pro-life MPs say the figures prove that abortion has become so commonplace that hundreds of women are using it as a form of contraception.

Nadine Dorries, Tory MP for Mid Bedfordshire, said: 'Abortion is wrongly seen as an easy and trouble-free way of ending a pregnancy. It has moved from a resource that women turn to in an emergency and a point of crisis to becoming a form of contraception.

'This has been brought about as a result of an ill-conceived notion that it is just a minor procedure with no side or lasting effects, but this is not the case.'

The Office for National Statistics revealed yesterday that there were 205,600 abortions last year, with 198,500 carried out on Britons and the rest on women who had travelled from other countries.
. Portugal will go to the polls in a referendum to decriminalise abortion in the first 10 weeks of pregnancy on February 11. REUTER

There were more than 200,000 abortions in Britain in 2007 - but there could be even more in 2008

Most abortions – 57,000 – were carried out on the 20 to 24 age group. However, there were 4,400 on the under-16s and 700 on those aged more than 45. Some 62.7 per cent of abortions were performed within nine weeks.

In the first six months of 2008, there were 105,000 abortions, slightly more than half last year's figure, indicating the annual total is likely to exceed that of 2007.

Pro-life campaigners are also becoming increasingly concerned with the number of repeat abortions.

The most recent figures for this from 2006 show that nearly 4,000 women have had four or more abortions – and dozens have had eight or more. There were 82 teenagers on their third abortion.

Overall, the number of women having repeat abortions has reached record levels.

In 2006, 59,687 abortions were performed in England on women who had already had one.

A third of terminations are now repeats, and the number has gone up by 5 per cent in two years.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090057/Abortion-rates-rocket-record-high-Britain-set-overtake-US-world-termination-capital.html#ixzz0OuTIXYLa

SwordoftheVistula
08-22-2009, 12:25 PM
An abortion will be $200-$800, having a child can cost upwards of $3000. But if the country is taking care of your medical for having a child, your probably more likely to keep it.

One of the things which makes a country suck!

http://www.jillstanek.com/abortion%20kills%20black%20babies%202.jpg

Karaten
08-22-2009, 12:48 PM
http://www.jillstanek.com/abortion%20kills%20black%20babies%202.jpg

I suppose by abortion they mean parent killing their child.

Puddle of Mudd
09-02-2009, 12:58 AM
I suppose by abortion they mean parent killing their child.

Ouch!..

Karaten
09-02-2009, 07:42 PM
Ouch!..

Don't worry, I'm okay.

anonymaus
09-02-2009, 07:44 PM
these numbers relative to population
and births
would be instructive.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2538&stc=1&d=1251920674

nisse
12-28-2009, 04:59 PM
IMO the high abortion rates in Russia and Bulgaria could be due to:
1. People not being able to afford children.
2. Religion was weakened by communism, and abortion was seen as woman's right, reducing social stygma around it.

I think it was sort of a weird mix of social/family values, as I personally find divorce to be more shocking than abortion :fwhat:....I find my views to be sort of shocking though...

Brännvin
12-28-2009, 10:00 PM
Sweden performs 37,000 abortions each year (http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/ab-sweden.html), that's 1/3 of all live births...

We don't need big families, however, we will allow immigrants to offset the social crisis caused by this policy, that has last two decades ;)..

Loki
12-29-2009, 12:05 AM
Sweden performs 37,000 abortions each year (http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/ab-sweden.html), that's 1/3 of all live births...

We don't need big families, however, we will allow immigrants to offset the social crisis caused by this policy, that has last two decades ;)..

:eek: You could raise an army with that ... :cry

Aino
12-29-2009, 05:48 AM
IMO the high abortion rates in Russia and Bulgaria could be due to:
1. People not being able to afford children.
2. Religion was weakened by communism, and abortion was seen as woman's right, reducing social stygma around it.


This article also blames lack of sex education in schools:

Russia turns spotlight on abortion (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3093152.stm)

Here is a list of countries by percentage of pregnancies that are terminated legally:

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp333pd.html

Lulletje Rozewater
12-29-2009, 06:04 AM
:eek: You could raise an army with that ... :cry

With these stats you can populate all of Europe, in todays paper.

http://www.mg.co.za/article/2007-03-08-unsafe-abortions-still-killing-africas-women

December
12-29-2009, 11:50 AM
The graphic has one thing in common: Libertarianism. "First World" and Sovietoid countries, both groups flogged with feminist scourge, but with the latter winning by far as expected. Communism did a good job in telling people flesh is the same thing as meat unless it can be of any use to its sickening concept of society.

There's no need for any islamic womb-bomb with european societies comitting suicide this way. Funny how high "Human Development Index" goes hand in hand with Decline.

Jarl
12-29-2009, 12:01 PM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2538&stc=1&d=1251920674


Poland 0,01 per 1000?! Better than Orthodox Greece! :) Pro family! Pro Nation! :thumb001:

ikki
12-29-2009, 12:06 PM
I am surprised that we aren't even in the top 20....

probly not measured at all... for some weird reason... i find it hard to believe you wouldnt have more than poland were said procedure afaik is illegal under most circumstances

Amapola
12-29-2009, 12:19 PM
That's the culture of relativism trying to make us believe there is a line where the foetus belongs to what is called life and where he's just a mass of crap, worthy to be killed...

:noidea::dizzy:

nisse
12-29-2009, 12:49 PM
That's the culture of relativism trying to make us believe there is a line where the foetus belongs to what is called life and where he's just a mass of crap, worthy to be killed...

:noidea::dizzy:
Well, if you believe science and not religion, there are no absolutes. :noidea:

EDIT: Re: sex ed - I recall having something like Canadian health as part of the "civil defence" class back in Ukraine. There are nowhere near as many sex ed posters (safe sex, "no" means no, etc.) hanging around though.

Amapola
12-29-2009, 12:50 PM
There nothing religious about it?:noidea:

Radojica
01-02-2010, 04:19 PM
Sweden performs 37,000 abortions each year (http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/ab-sweden.html), that's 1/3 of all live births...

We don't need big families, however, we will allow immigrants to offset the social crisis caused by this policy, that has last two decades ;)..

Official number in Serbia is 150.000 per year. And number of citizens of our countries is similar.........:(

Anthropos
01-02-2010, 04:46 PM
That's the culture of relativism trying to make us believe there is a line where the foetus belongs to what is called life and where he's just a mass of crap, ...

Culture of relativism, humanism or why not culture of stupidity? Only a dupe can believe that the foetus is essentially different from fully developed human life!

nisse
01-02-2010, 07:14 PM
Only a dupe can believe that the foetus is essentially different from fully developed human life!
Today and tomorrow are both days, doesn't mean they are the same. Tomorrow will never come for some - that makes it very different. Likewise a fully developed human and a fetus are not the same. You just make a fool of yourself by calling those who have a perception of time dupes.

Anthropos
01-02-2010, 07:22 PM
Today and tomorrow are both days, doesn't mean they are the same. Tomorrow will never come for some - that makes it very different. Likewise a fully developed human and a fetus are not the same. You just make a fool of yourself by calling those who have a perception of time dupes.

You are probably capable of taking a life, but not of preventing tomorrow from coming.

nisse
01-02-2010, 07:42 PM
You are probably capable of taking a life, but not of preventing tomorrow from coming.
If that life is my own tomorrow will never come.

Monolith
01-02-2010, 10:37 PM
These numbers make my blood boil.

Majar
01-03-2010, 11:37 PM
The cost of raising a child is $300,000 or more- why? It seems to me the cost of living is kept artificially high, and to add that our living expenses (including the expenses of children) include more non-essentials than they ever have before. All our ancestors lived with far less "stuff" crowding them, and I have no doubt they lived more fulfilling lives than we do today.

I think we're entering into an era of great change, a shift in consciousness, and one of the biggest questions we need to ask ourselves is what makes a high quality of life? Surely it isn't "stuff." We have more stuff than we need, and we have clinical depression on a massive scale. When I think about the happiest days of my life, it was sitting around a campfire with my family or spending time with someone I loved, not sitting at home with my playstation games or spending time at the mall. Connecting with others makes us happy. Doing things which remind us of our connection to our ancient tribal roots makes us happy.

The abortion thing is not a religious issue but a consumer one, people are being programmed to replace the things which truly matter in life with artificial "stuff," so the idea "I have to kill my baby because babies are expensive and I want that money to buy stuff for myself, because TV says stuff makes me happy and popular" follows from that, sadly.

Brännvin
01-04-2010, 02:43 AM
Official number in Serbia is 150.000 per year. And number of citizens of our countries is similar.........:(

Are you sure about it? Looks so much high for to be real! :confused: And I thinking my country one of top abortions butchers per capita. How many women become pregnant annually in Serbia?

About Sweden, here two studies about it;

Link (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12315818)

Since 1975, in Sweden, between 30,000 and 37,000 abortions (24-26% of pregnancies) are carried out each year. 95% are done before the end of the 12th week

Barnmorskans upplevelser av ett etiskt dilemma vid en sen abort (http://bada.hb.se/bitstream/2320/4723/1/M2009_4.pdf)

År 2007 genomfördes i Sverige cirka 37 000 aborter i tidig graviditet, dvs. före vecka 12. Samma år var det 2083 aborter i vecka 12-17 och 360 efter vecka 18. I föreliggande studie har upplevelser av ett etiskt dilemma vid sen abort, dvs. efter vecka 12 undersökts.


That's 1/3 of all live births, and 1/4 of all women annually pregnant..

Vasa
01-04-2010, 05:41 AM
Brännvin, actually if i dont remember but in year 2007 (?) it was around 70 000 abortions in Sweden. Most of the abortions are murder as a result of egoism.