Is God Jewish?

[Anglojew]

Jews are God's "chosen people." Christians believe God has a son, a Jew called Yeshua (Jesus). If God picked the Jews.", and his son is a Jew, does that mean God is a Judean?

Is God Jewish?

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[alfieb]

No.

Jesus was a Jew because his mother was a Jew, not his father. God has no mother, therefore God cannot be a Jew.

[Anglojew]

No.

Jesus was a Jew because his mother was a Jew, not his father. God has no mother, therefore God cannot be a Jew.

Maybe he converted when he married Mary?

[alfieb]

Mary was already married to Joseph, she could not marry God.

[randomguy1235]

Maybe in certain Christian theologies, but other monotheistic faiths (such as Islam) do not believe God has a definitive form or entity. In Islam, God is transcendent and is certainly neither male nor female.

[Anglojew]

Mary was already married to Joseph, she could not marry God.

Hmm so Jesus was an illegitimate bastard born out of an affair?

[Methmatician]

God isn't human, so he can't belong to any socially constructed groups.

[Queen B]

Let's say there is a God, okay?
Who's saying that Jew's are God's chosen people?

[alfieb]

Hmm so Jesus was an illegitimate bastard born out if an affair?
There was no affair.

Legitimacy refers to whether the parents were united in the eyes of God. When God happens to be one of the parents, I think it's hard for you to be illegitimate.

[Anglojew]

Q: How did they know that Jesus was Jewish?
A: Because he lived at home until he was thirty, he went into his father's business, his mother
thought he was God, and he thought his mother was a virgin.

[Queen B]

Q: How did they know that Jesus was Jewish?
A: Because he lived at home until he was thirty, he went into his father's business, his mother
thought he was God, and he thought his mother was a virgin.
That would make him Greek :rotfl:

[alfieb]

That would make him Greek :rotfl:

I'd say Sicilian, but then he wouldn't move out until he was 45.

[Anglojew]

There was no affair.

Legitimacy refers to whether the parents were united in the eyes of God. When God happens to be one of the parents, I think it's hard for you to be illegitimate.

So God lives by the same rules as Bill Clinton?

[Anglojew]

I'd say Sicilian, but then he wouldn't move out until he was 45.


Let's say there is a God, okay?
Who's saying that Jew's are God's chosen people?

Deuteronomy Chapter 14 דְּבָרִים

ב כִּי עַם קָדוֹשׁ אַתָּה, לַיהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ; וּבְךָ בָּחַר יְהוָה, לִהְיוֹת לוֹ לְעַם סְגֻלָּה, מִכֹּל הָעַמִּים, אֲשֶׁר עַל-פְּנֵי הָאֲדָמָה. {ס} 2 For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be His own treasure out of all peoples that are upon the face of the earth. {S}

[alfieb]

So God lives by the same rules as Bill Clinton?

Bill Clinton was born William Blythe, changed his name, made himself an Irish-American despite zero Irish ancestry, and became the first black President, despite being white.

[Anglojew]

Bill Clinton was born William Blythe, changed his name, made himself an Irish-American despite zero Irish ancestry, and became the first black President, despite being white.

Was he really not Irish?

[alfieb]

Was he really not Irish?

"Although President Bill Clinton's term of office is now long over, the file on his Irish ancestry remains open, in that claims that his maternal Cassidy ancestors came from Roslea, County Fermanagh, have been shown to have been based merely on wishful thinking."

http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/dir/pres.htm

He's claimed to be Irish-American dozens of times, ironic that it would not be so... yet then again, so did John Kerry, until he found out that his grandfather was a Hungarian Jew named Kohn who converted to Catholicism, changed his name and never told his kids that he wasn't really Irish-Catholic.

[Anglojew]

"Although President Bill Clinton's term of office is now long over, the file on his Irish ancestry remains open, in that claims that his maternal Cassidy ancestors came from Roslea, County Fermanagh, have been shown to have been based merely on wishful thinking."

http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/dir/pres.htm

He's claimed to be Irish-American dozens of times, ironic that it would not be so... yet then again, so did John Kerry, until he found out that his grandfather was a Hungarian Jew named Kohn who converted to Catholicism, changed his name and never told his kids that he wasn't really Irish-Catholic.

It's a little like John Kerry who's really a Jew called Kohn (Cohen) but who's dad pretended to be Irish Catholic.

[Queen B]

Deuteronomy Chapter
And why should I accept this religious book as the true one ?
Why should God, if he exists, should be the God you believe, and you have formed in a religion?

[alfieb]

It's a little like John Kerry who's really a Jew called Kohn (Cohen) but who's dad pretended to be Irish Catholic.

You quoted a post where I said the very same thing.

He's claimed to be Irish-American dozens of times, ironic that it would not be so... yet then again, so did John Kerry, until he found out that his grandfather was a Hungarian Jew named Kohn who converted to Catholicism, changed his name and never told his kids that he wasn't really Irish-Catholic.

:lol:

[Insuperable]

Jews are God's "chosen people." Christians believe God has a son, a Jew called Yeshua (Jesus). If God picked the Jews.", and his son is a Jew, does that mean God is a Judean?

Is God Jewish?

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No

[Anglojew]

You quoted a post where I said the very same thing.

He's claimed to be Irish-American dozens of times, ironic that it would not be so... yet then again, so did John Kerry, until he found out that his grandfather was a Hungarian Jew named Kohn who converted to Catholicism, changed his name and never told his kids that he wasn't really Irish-Catholic.

:lol:

The same thing with Madeleine Albright was she was told she was a Czech Catholic.

[rhiannon]

The Jews seem to think he's Jewish don't they?

[Anglojew]

The Jews seem to think he's Jewish don't they?

I think Judaism thinks God's omnipresent actually.

[rhiannon]

I think Judaism thinks God's omnipresent actually.Don't all three Abrahamic faiths believe that?

[amerinese]

Hmm so Jesus was an illegitimate bastard born out if an affair?

His dad was an omnipotent hermaphrodite from another dimension. Probably has an infinite number of uncircumcised penises. He invented the pig. How could he be Jewish?

[Philo]

Last I checked, I was Jewish. So yeah, God's Jewish. :)

[Smaug]

Judaism is a religion and it's regarded to humans. If G'd exists, he is an entity and not a human being, so He could not be Jewish, even though probably He created Judaism to guide humans on the right path, but again on the other hand He doesn't demand all humans to be Jewish, He just demands us to follow the Seven Noahide Laws.

[Twistedmind]

Not God is not Jew. He created entire world, of which world Jes are part, so claiming He is Jewish is completly stupid. According to Old Testament, God chosed Abraham, only men who had right faith, to be forefather of choen people. Jews concluded convent with God, in time of Moses. According to Chritianity, that was jut prototype of New Convenant concluded after Christ's reurection. In either way, there is imposible to put Creator in context of hi creation, this world.

[RussiaPrussia]

what a stupid question. God just chose Mary as a body.

But it doesnt matter because there is no god

[Dacul]

The Mother of God Jesus Christ was hebrew,but not judean,She was galilean.
Hebrews as chosen people of God does not refer to ethnicity,that is a wrong interpretation.
It refers to how someone it is after facts,thoughts and so on.
Job was not hebrew,if you read in Old Testament.
If you read in New Testament,never God Jesus Christ is called jew,but galilean.
But He is not calling Himself galilean,but "son of man".
(jew=judean).
Anyway,from modern jews most genetics is not from old hebrews,since they mostly have european admixture.Especially at askenazi.
While their West-Asian admixture I think is mostly from khazars,not from old hebrews.
Maybe they also have some old hebrew genetics,but I am not sure since their mother language is a german with some hebrew words.
Is different with saphardic jews.

[Twistedmind]

The Mother of God Jesus Christ was hebrew,but not judean,She was galilean.
Acctually, she belonged to tribe of Judah. But, Christ is God by his Divine, not by Human nature.



Hebrews as chosen people of God does not refer to ethnicity,that is a wrong interpretation.
It refers to how someone it is after facts,thoughts and so on.
Job was not hebrew,if you read in Old Testament.

Old Testament is of Symbolic meaning for Christians.




If you read in New Testament,never God Jesus Christ is called jew,but galilean.
But He is not calling Himself galilean,but "son of man".


Acctaully, He confirmed His Jewishnes while disucsing with Samaritan woman, but like I said, it i just by Human nature, and it is not something related to other two Persons of Holly Trinity.

[Flintlocke]

Let's say there is a God, okay?
Who's saying that Jew's are God's chosen people?

The Jews created God and he told them they're chosen.

[curupira]

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[Twistedmind]

Personally, I find these religious teachings profoundly obscene and disturbing.
Same could be said for people who fail to see what is topic of discussion before entering. Nothing you posted concerns topic itself.

[curupira]

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[Dacul]

Well even if God Jesus Christ was from the tribe of Judah ,after his mother,that can also mean that God is Almighty and He can have an all holy mother from most perverted in evil people from all world,who were judeans.
Since some judeans are the ones behind the fact God Jesus Christ is crucified.
The fact judeans of high religious rankings considered Mother of God that She gave birth to God Jesus Christ from whoredom,while this was not true,shows that they were having pervert minds,that they were sexually obssesed,while they were pretending to be holy.

[Twistedmind]

It does.

No. Chabad is not mainstream Judaism. Anyway, it says Jew is part of God, not God is Jew.
Also, in context of Christianity, it means nothing. Sanhedrin, Talmud, Chabad, all of that is completly irrelevant to us.

Jew is human, and humankind is creation. God is Creator, that two things are absolutley different.


Hmm so Jesus was an illegitimate bastard born out if an affair?

Lol.



And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds , Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;

What illegitimate?

[Heart of Oak]

God is not Jewish as there is no god; if she did exist I would like to know how she sleeps at night; all the pain an misery I have seen around the world; an it is not the devils work as these are good family men an women who had right on there side; I know they were good people::::::::::
so why did they die so horriblely; WHY?:::::::::::

[Dacul]

God is not Jewish as there is no god; if she did exist I would like to know how she sleeps at night; all the pain an misery I have seen around the world; an it is not the devils work as these are good family men an women who had right on there side; I know they were good people::::::::::
so why did they die so horriblely; WHY?:::::::::::

God is not rulling the world as a tyrant, He lets people to be free.
He is watching over the world,that is called divine providence,He takes care of the people in a very discrete manner.

[Loki]

That would make him Greek :rotfl:

That would make him my brother :picard1:

[Fröbjörn]

In my mind, gods do not have a race. They appear as they do because they do. We can't really understand why or how they do it. A god's power is beyond our understanding.

[Dacul]

^
Smart swede!

[Anglojew]

And why should I accept this religious book as the true one ?
Why should God, if he exists, should be the God you believe, and you have formed in a religion?

Because if you don't God will smite you.

[Zmey Gorynych]

God is whatever his creators want him to be.

[Anglojew]

In my mind, gods do not have a race. They appear as they do because they do. We can't really understand why or how they do it. A god's power is beyond our understanding.

If God's Jewish, "The Gods" are Nordics (or at least that's how they're portrayed).

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[Anglojew]

God is whatever his creators want him to be.

Endless possibilities

[alfieb]

That would make him my brother :picard1:

Thor?

[Anglojew]

The Mother of God Jesus Christ was hebrew,but not judean,She was galilean.
Hebrews as chosen people of God does not refer to ethnicity,that is a wrong interpretation.
It refers to how someone it is after facts,thoughts and so on.
Job was not hebrew,if you read in Old Testament.
If you read in New Testament,never God Jesus Christ is called jew,but galilean.
But He is not calling Himself galilean,but "son of man".
(jew=judean).
Anyway,from modern jews most genetics is not from old hebrews,since they mostly have european admixture.Especially at askenazi.
While their West-Asian admixture I think is mostly from khazars,not from old hebrews.
Maybe they also have some old hebrew genetics,but I am not sure since their mother language is a german with some hebrew words.
Is different with saphardic jews.

Bethlehem is in Judea.

Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews are very closely related.

The Romans called Jesus "King of the Jews (Judeans)".

[alfieb]

Bethlehem is in Judea.
Palestine.

Just kidding. I don't believe in Palestine. :lol:

[Anglojew]

The Jews created God and he told them they're chosen.

Sounds like we each got a good deal.

[SkyBurn]

God is Jewish in the same way that Bertrand Russel's flying space teapot is an atheist.

They are followers of the ideologies which created them.

[Anglojew]

I imagine God to look something like this;

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[Queen B]

Because if you don't God will smite you.
And how exactly do you know it ? Oh ~ yea, you read it in a book.:picard2:

And okay, lets say that God exists, okay? Fine by me.
Why should be Bible the correct book and not Koran? Why should be Koran and not any other book? Who can tell which religion is the correct and who can tell me why I should believe THIS book in order to accept God, as a superior entity?

If there is a God, the God is how the specific person sees him.

[Anglojew]

And okay, lets say that God exists, okay? Fine by me.
Why should be Bible the correct book and not Koran? Why should be Koran and not any other book? Who can tell which religion is the correct and who can tell me why I should believe THIS book in order to accept God, as a superior entity?

If there is a God, the God is how the specific person sees him.

Because since God's Jewish he writes in Hebrew.

Also, God was the original best seller so he didn't need to write any sequels.

[Dacul]

And how exactly do you know it ? Oh ~ yea, you read it in a book.:picard2:

And okay, lets say that God exists, okay? Fine by me.
Why should be Bible the correct book and not Koran? Why should be Koran and not any other book? Who can tell which religion is the correct and who can tell me why I should believe THIS book in order to accept God, as a superior entity?

If there is a God, the God is how the specific person sees him.

Such words from a greek christian orthodox....
:sad:
Christian orthodox is attested by enough wonders to be the most true religion.
I do not want to start with proselytism,since this is not specific to christian orthodox.

[SILNI]

Maybe he converted when he married Mary?

Hahah. No sorry. God isn't a jew.

Regarding Maria there are also some theories about her non-jew origin as well.

[Dacul]

Well after old icons Holy Mother of God is not having a hooked nose.

[SILNI]

Hmm so Jesus was an illegitimate bastard born out of an affair?

Jesus is Son and God himself. He is your God also so this statement above is rude.

[SILNI]

Well after old icons Holy Mother of God is not having a hooked nose.

Yes , she look rather beautiful on all of those icons.

[Dacul]

^
I would like to see Anglojew saying such a thing in Bulgaria,Serbia,Macedonia,Greece,Montenegro,Romani a,Ukraine or Russia.
:laugh:

[Linet]

Deuteronomy Chapter 14 דְּבָרִים

ב כִּי עַם קָדוֹשׁ אַתָּה, לַיהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ; וּבְךָ בָּחַר יְהוָה, לִהְיוֹת לוֹ לְעַם סְגֻלָּה, מִכֹּל הָעַמִּים, אֲשֶׁר עַל-פְּנֵי הָאֲדָמָה. {ס} 2 For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be His own treasure out of all peoples that are upon the face of the earth. {S}

Said the Jews.... :icon_rolleyes:

[Dacul]

^
That is not interpreting like that,read what Saint Paul is saying in New Testament.
Come on you are greeks,ones of the most great Holy Father of christian orthodoxy were greeks,you should know more about this...
You never heard of more recent Saint Gregory Palamas,or before of Saint Basil the Great or Saint Gregory the Theologian?
Christian orthodox are now the people of God,since at Divine liturgy ,in Christian Orthodox church is sung "God bless your people" considering the people that are present in the Church.

[Anglojew]

^
I would like to see Anglojew saying such a thing in Bulgaria,Serbia,Macedonia,Greece,Montenegro,Romani a,Ukraine or Russia.
:laugh:

One day they'll get the Internet I guess.

[SILNI]

^
I would like to see Anglojew saying such a thing in Bulgaria,Serbia,Macedonia,Greece,Montenegro,Romani a,Ukraine or Russia.
:laugh:
Yes , :D , he would probably accept conversion to christianity after that.

[SILNI]

One day they'll get the Internet I guess.

HEY , we got it 2 years ago :mad:

[Queen B]

Because since God's Jewish he writes in Hebrew.

Who say's God's Jewish?

[Queen B]

Such words from a greek christian orthodox....
:sad:
Christian orthodox is attested by enough wonders to be the most true religion.
I do not want to start with proselytism,since this is not specific to christian orthodox.
I am not a Christian Orthodox. I am an atheist.

[SILNI]

Who say's God's Jewish?
Only 15 millions world jews believe that.

[SILNI]

I am not a Christian Orthodox. I am an atheist.

Greek & atheist , rare combination.

[Twistedmind]

And okay, lets say that God exists, okay? Fine by me.
Why should be Bible the correct book and not Koran? Why should be Koran and not any other book? Who can tell which religion is the correct and who can tell me why I should believe THIS book in order to accept God, as a superior entity?

If there is a God, the God is how the specific person sees him.

Because since God's Jewish he writes in Hebrew.

Also, God was the original best seller so he didn't need to write any sequels.
That is stupid argumentation even by your criteria. Do you have religious relatives? Go and ask them, any Jew claiming God to be Jewish would be ousted from Jewish community.
If we say Bible is right, God created human kind, and latter choed Jews from them. Which return us to basic thing. God, creator could not be creation. (part of Jewish people)

[Loki]

Greek & atheist , rare combination.

She's a smart Greek :)

[Queen B]

Greek & atheist , rare combination.
Not really. There are many Greek atheists, and the majority are culturally Orthodox Christians.

[Smaland]

Mary was already married to Joseph, she could not marry God.


Hmm so Jesus was an illegitimate b*****d born out of an affair?


18) Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

19) Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily.

20) But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

21) And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

22) Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23) Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

24) Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25) And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.

Matthew 1:18-25 (King James Version)

[Dacul]

One day they'll get the Internet I guess.
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats4.htm
Serbia got quite a nice penetration rate of Internet,56%.
Greece is not bad either,with 53%.
Israel got about 70% so not such a high difference.

[SILNI]

Not really. There are many Greek atheists, and the majority are culturally Orthodox Christians.
I am sorry to hear that. I never was in greece so my only personal sources regarding that are by my friends which are football suporters and went to greece and some of them have friendly relations with some greek hooligan firms.
They told me that only small part of them is atheists and unfortunately those ones are pro-liberal anti-greek oriented in the sence of immigration and foreign policy.

[Queen B]

I am sorry to hear that. I never was in greece my only personal sources regarding that are by my friends which are football suporters and went to greece and some of them have friendly relations with some greek hooligan firms.
They told me that only small part of them is atheists and unfortunately those ones are pro-liberal anti-greek oriented in the sence of immigration and foreign policy.
That aren't the same. I m an atheist but I am an anti-immigrant and nationalist.

[SILNI]

That aren't the same. I m an atheist but I am an anti-immigrant and nationalist.

I wasn't talking about you. We serbs also have atheist nationalists.
I was talking in general and specially regarding football hooligans.

[Dacul]

Well what "many" means at you Dandelion?
1% or 2% of the greeks?
:laugh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece#Religion

[Queen B]

I wasn't talking about you. We serbs also have atheist nationalists.
I was talking in general and specially regarding football hooligans.
In general, there are many cultural Orthodox people. By cultural , I mean by default, believing but not really practicing, and follow some traditions only because is part of our culture anymore.
Well what "many" means at you Dandelion?
1% or 2% of the greeks?
:laugh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece#Religion
Please, don't redicule yourself. Read more carefully:
According to the U.S. State Department, an estimated 97% of Greek citizens identify themselves as Orthodox Christians
- So, who is the one to give official data? United stats department?:picard2:

According to a poll, in GREEK people and not by estimations of another's country state (:picard2:) 79% believe there is a God.

[Flintlocke]

All Greeks are closet atheists. There's even a joke where a Chinese a Turk and a Greek fall from a plane and then the Chinese goes "thank buddha I'm alive, I'll meditate all the time" the Turk goes "thank allah I'm alive, I'll pray all the time" while the Greek goes:

"Γαμώ τη Παναγία μου πήγαμε να πεθάνουμε παραλίγο" :D :D

[SILNI]

In general, there are many cultural Orthodox people. By cultural , I mean by default, believing but not really practicing, and follow some traditions only because is part of our culture anymore.

I am cultural christian also , but that doesn't mean I am any less radical than those which sleep in churches.
That kind of division do not exist here anyway. You are either with Christ or you aren't.

[SILNI]

And what mean practicing btw? We are not muslims. We don't pray 5 times a day ect ...

[Queen B]

And what mean practicing btw? We are not muslims. We don't pray 5 times a day ect ...
Well, if someone swears at God and Mary or Jesus, if anyone doesn't go to church, only in funerals/marriages/christening, don't wear a cross or make his cross, don't feast or pray is he considered a Christian?
There are many ''Orthodox Christians'' I know that way.

[Twistedmind]

Well, if someone swears at God and Mary or Jesus, if anyone doesn't go to church, only in funerals/marriages/christening, don't wear a cross or make his cross, don't feast or pray is he considered a Christian?
There are many ''Orthodox Christians'' I know that way.
Yes, that is common situation, but Greeks are most religious of all Orthodox people. Lot of people go in Church and take comunion.

[SILNI]

Well, if someone swears at God and Mary or Jesus, if anyone doesn't go to church, only in funerals/marriages/christening, don't wear a cross or make his cross, don't feast or pray is he considered a Christian?
There are many ''Orthodox Christians'' I know that way.
Yeah but those ones were which fought the hardest for preservation of our church and people in for example bosnian war.
And regarding wearing a cross I can't recall anybody who does not wear it here.
They consider themselves a christians so who am I to decide are they worthy enough.
Swearing is part of vocabulary here anyway.

You don't need a church to be with Jesus. The most glorious christians never entered church but lived in the desert , living and praying in glory of the God .

[Queen B]

Yes, that is common situation, but Greeks are most religious of all Orthodox people. Lot of people go in Church and take comunion.
Most people who do this are oldies.
Young people - IF they go to church - is only in Christmas and/or Easter.

Greeks in Greece are VERY different compared to diasporians in terms of practicing

[Twistedmind]

Most people who do this are oldies.
Young people - IF they go to church - is only in Christmas and/or Easter.
That is situataion in all Orthodox countiries acctually. I been in most. And live in one. Anyway, it does not mean people are not religious let alone atheists. It is how people feel. Not how they do (not) act.



Greeks in Greece are VERY different compared to diasporians in terms of practicing
Yes and? There is no way to picture Greece as atheistic society. No matter how hard you are trying.

[King Claus]

i smell trolling

[Queen B]

That is situataion in all Orthodox countiries acctually. I been in most. And live in one. Anyway, it does not mean people are not religious let alone atheists. It is how people feel. Not how they do (not) act.


Yes and? There is no way to picture Greece as atheistic society. No matter how hard you are trying.

I didn't say Greece is an atheist society. I said that there are many atheists, and that from the believers, they are many cultural rather than hardly religious people.

[Twistedmind]

I didn't say Greece is an atheist society. I said that there are many atheists, and that from the believers, they are many cultural rather than hardly religious people.

Yep, but it does not contradicts Romanul's point.

[Queen B]

Yep, but it does not contradicts Romanul's point.
Romanul said that Greece is 98% Orthodox Christian. Of course it contradicts.:picard2:

[SKYNET]

jewish God? I've never heard, my God is my machine

[Twistedmind]

Romanul said that Greece is 98% Orthodox Christian. Of course it contradicts.:picard2:

Here we go again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Greece
Cia Factbook came with that number, there are other various estimates, but you did not cite any, you just started to speak about swearing.

[Queen B]

Here we go again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Greece
Cia Factbook came with that number, there are other various estimates, but you did not cite any, you just started to speak about swearing.

Ιts in your link, Eurostat/Eurobarometer

[Twistedmind]

Ιts in your link, Eurostat/Eurobarometer

Yes. But it was not provided by you in previous discussion, and does not change a lot in course of dicussion

[Queen B]

Yes. But it was not provided by you in previous discussion, and does not change a lot in course of dicussion
There is no need 1) since its already provided by another person 2) there is no need to have stats from Eurobarometer, when I already know this result first hand and 3) It doesn't add in discusiion, since the discussion is about if God is Jewish or not.

[Mortimer]

maybe god is jewish but he is black too. maybe he is a ethiopian jew?

[Don Arb]

If Jesus had big nose than he is jew for sure.

[HillY35]

My opinion:
The Jews have played a major role in God's plan for mankind, and that role has been a heavy burden to bear. They should be respected for this conspicuous burden. Jesus was born a Jew in order to fulfill God's designed "grand destiny" for mankind. Is God a Jew? No (but so what if he were?). Does God look at Jews more lovingly than any other group? No, God looks at the hearts of all men, and all who call on his name.
But the Jews deserve the utmost respect for their very human struggle with the burdens of life on this earth.
Those are my thoughts.

[Flintlocke]

Christianity is fun because it's everything one wants to make of it he can. It went from being a cult of peaceful hippies to bloodcrazed barbarians like the early Germanics and till the Crusades. The Jesus figure took on much from Odin than vice versa. ;)

[SILNI]

Christianity is fun because it's everything one wants to make of it he can. It went from being a cult of peaceful hippies to bloodcrazed barbarians like the early Germanics and till the Crusades. The Jesus figure took on much from Odin than vice versa. ;)
It always had positive fanatism in it. It was used in the wrong purposes later due to its increased power but its origin was always humanism and love.

[SILNI]

For all of you

God on trial.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-oNYd23pQk

[Austo]

God is god.
He doesnt have a religion. We are the ones who pray to him. Shall he pray to himself.


Christian is the only true religion.

[pinguino]

No God is not Jewish. It is Argentinean.

[Bobby Six Killer]

I wonder why God chose Jews as the chosen people.

[Aredhel]

The religious people always wants to humanize the "supreme being", I'm not sure if there's god to me god it just an abstract concept and I don't think that someone could prove their existence with rational and scientific arguments.

[Anglojew]

No God is not Jewish. It is Argentinean.


maybe god is jewish but he is black too. maybe he is a ethiopian jew?

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[alfieb]

As long as God is not a Gypsy, I don't care what He looks like.

[SkyBurn]

As long as God is not a Gypsy, I don't care what He looks like.

http://mayahoodblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/fsm.jpg

[Smaland]

I wonder why God chose Jews as the chosen people.

Actually, they aren't.

If they were, the Davidic Covenant cited below would apply to them:


10) Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

11) And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the Lord telleth thee that he will make thee an house.

12) And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

13) He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.

II Samuel 7:10-13 (King James Version)

If the Jews were truly Israelites, they would now have a king who is descended from David. Since this is not so, they can't be true Israel.

[Anglojew]

Actually, they aren't.

If they were, the Davidic Covenant cited below would apply to them:



If the Jews were truly Israelites, they would now have a king who is descended from David. Since this is not so, they can't be true Israel.


I'm descended from David (according to religious authorities). I'm willing to be King of Israel.

[Philo]

I'm descended from David (according to religious authorities). I'm willing to be King of Israel.

I support you being a Monarch;)

[Anglojew]

I support you being a Monarch;)

I dub thee Sir Herod, the Great.

[Smaland]

Actually, they aren't.

If they were, the Davidic Covenant cited below would apply to them:


10) Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

11) And as since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the Lord telleth thee that he will make thee an house.

12) And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

13) He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.

II Samuel 7:10-13 (King James Version)


If the Jews were truly Israelites, they would now have a king who is descended from David. Since this is not so, they can't be true Israel.


I'm descended from David (according to religious authorities). I'm willing to be King of Israel.

For the sake of discussion, I accept your statement that you are descended from David.

However, if the Jews were truly Israelites, they would already have a king who is descended from Solomon. They would have an unbroken line of such kings going all the way back to Solomon himself. Since this is not so, the Jews can't be true Israel.

[Tyfani]

Jews are God's "chosen people." Christians believe God has a son, a Jew called Yeshua (Jesus). If God picked the Jews.", and his son is a Jew, does that mean God is a Judean?

Is God Jewish?

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christians do not consider jesus as god's son... At least orthodox... God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is one being, all connected and unable to separate

[Anglojew]

For the sake of discussion, I accept your statement that you are descended from David.

However, if the Jews were truly Israelites, they would already have a king who is descended from Solomon. They would have an unbroken line of such kings going all the way back to Solomon himself. Since this is not so, the Jews can't be true Israel.

Religious Authorities have kept a record of this which is why the Nasi of Narbonne was appointed during the Dark Ages.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhir_of_Narbonne

[Twistedmind]

christians do not consider jesus as god's son... At least orthodox... God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is one being, all connected and unable to separate

Ehm, well, things are like this. Christ is God Son one of three Persons of Holy Trinity. That three persons share same essence and energies, but they are three Persons. Altoug, since there is no time and space for God, which is obvious, we could not speak about separation. God Logos, Son incarnated by Holy Spirit and Mary the Theotokos, to save Humankind by His glorious death on Cross, anyway it is not worth to discuss with Anglojew.
He is troll.

[Anglojew]

Ehm, well, things are like this. Christ is God Son one of three Persons of Holy Trinity. That three persons share same essence and energies, but they are three Persons. Altoug, since there is no time and space for God, which is obvious, we could not speak about separation. God Logos, Son incarnated by Holy Spirit and Mary the Theotokos, to save Humankind by His glorious death on Cross, anyway it is not worth to discuss with Anglojew.
He is troll.

Not very monotheistic.

[Twistedmind]

Not very monotheistic.
Thank you for opinion, but honestly, you lack insight in theology. :)

[SILNI]

Not very monotheistic.
Yes it is. "Three" of them are one.
Concept is hard to fathom by non-christian.

[Dacul]

I do not know but old icons of Mother of God are looking more closed to people from Balkans,than to today hebrews,which I do not know how much hebrews are.

[SILNI]

christians do not consider jesus as god's son... At least orthodox... God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is one being, all connected and unable to separate
He is a Son and God in the same time.

[SILNI]

I do not know but old icons of Mother of God are looking more closed to people from Balkans,than to today hebrews

I couldn't agree more.

[kabeiros]

The important question is:

Is (there a) God?

Once we prove that He/She/It is, then we can speak about ethnic origin

[Permafrost]

The important question is:

Is (there a) God?

Once we prove that He/She/It is, then we can speak about ethnic origin

Is it even possible to prove (or disprove) that God exists, in the first place?

[Chinup]

The important question is:

Is (there a) God?

Once we prove that He/She/It is, then we can speak about ethnic origin Truly .. to make God out to be a person of any kind says more about what a person wants God to be than speaks to the nature of God.

[SILNI]

Is it even possible to prove that God exists
Proofs are all around us , in nature.

[Chinup]

Proofs are all around us , in nature. Indeed to deny the existence of God is to deny the existence of a need to be humble & reverent.

[riverman]

No.

[Austo]

Is it even possible to prove (or disprove) that God exists, in the first place?

I dont think that it can be prooven. But can you proove that he doesnt exist?

[Libertas]

God is probably Italian because that childish nation seems to get away with murder.:):):):tongue

[Linet]

God is probably Italian because that childish nation seems to get away with murder.:):):):tongue

Never thought of it like that :blink:
....Sounds just right :laugh:

[The Lawspeaker]

Hmm so Jesus was an illegitimate bastard born out of an affair?
Do you want a short or a long answer ?

The long answer: Looks like it.
The short answer: Yes.

It's either this or there is no such thing as God, Jewish or the whole lot of them.

[Alexander20]

Theoretically based on teaching God is some omnipresent being that has no finite form.

[Mortimer]

No God is God, and God created Jews and choose them to serve him, but he is not a Jew

[Mason8]

Jews are God's "chosen people." Christians believe God has a son, a Jew called Yeshua (Jesus). If God picked the Jews.", and his son is a Jew, does that mean God is a Judean?

Is God Jewish?

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First of all we don't believe that God has literal children by reproduction, so we don't believe that Jesus was the son of God. Metaphorically, all beings are children of God, since God created everything. No more, no less.

Second of all, when we say Jews are God's chosen people, that is a poor and misleading translation of a fusion of ideas: that we are a nation God has set aside for a sacred purpose. We are "chosen," if you will, to be Jews: to have the covenant of Torah. While this implies uniqueness, it does not imply exclusivity: we assume that God has relationships with other peoples, and may choose them for other responsibilities or destinies or covenants.

Third of all, God doesn't have a religion or culture because those things are human creations-- perhaps sometimes involving dialogue with God, or directives from Him-- that are about human self- and social improvement and enhancing awareness of and relationship with God. God created everything, is already perfect, and, being God, does not need to enhance His awareness of or relationship to Himself.

So, no.

[armenianbodyhair]

God is God, He, She, or It is above all this trivial bullshit.

[Sblast]

:lol:

[Visitor_22]

No. May be only for delusional christians of course.

[Cleitus]

Jews are God's "chosen people." Christians believe God has a son, a Jew called Yeshua (Jesus). If God picked the Jews.", and his son is a Jew, does that mean God is a Judean?

Is God Jewish?

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There are several deceptions in the churches today and one of the most dominant is that Zionism is of the Lord, Zionism means Israel, and we are to protect Israel because those who bless Israel are blessed by the Lord, and those who curse Israel are cursed by the Lord. His words about blessing and cursing Israel are very true, but who is Israel? Is Zionism Israel today?

Most Christians hear the word Zionism and think of Jerusalem. And it was a clever ploy of those who worship Satan to confuse the terminology of their political agendas to lull the people to sleep and get them to agree to their policies because they sound good. Zionism is a political agenda, but when Christians hear it they think of Biblical Zion and Jerusalem.

Zionism became a political agenda of the Bolshevik Illuminati to capture the area of Israel for the Antichrist. In fact, their agenda is to rule the world from Jerusalem. When the Battle of Armageddon takes place the Antichrist gathers all the world's armies to Israel to fight against the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. At that time, the Antichrist is ruling from Jerusalem.

The agenda started back when the Edomite Bolshevik Jews financed Hitler's rise to power in Germany to set up the conditions to establish their own Nation of Israel for Illuminati rule and that is exactly what happened with the Nazi Holocaust. Who was behind the holocaust? The Edomite Jews. Why? Because they wanted to get rid of the Torah believing Jews and establish a Babylonian Talmudic Jewish nation in Israel. And that is what we have today with Zionism. Talmudic Jews ruling, pushing the agenda of the New World Order and Illuminati to set the nation up for the rule of the Antichrist.

Edomite Jews are not real bloodline Jews.

In Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Yahweh says that there are those claiming to be Jews, but are not Jews, and are liars. They are the church of Satan, the synagogue of Satan and are worshippers and followers of him.

And what are they doing today? Conquering the world for the Antichrist to rule from Jerusalem. In every nation, in every major event, the Edomite Jews have been behind it. Although the Edomite Jews dominate Israel today there are a remnant of real bloodline Jews there as well. These are the ones the Lord will protect during the Great Tribulation.

Look at America today, who is running the White House? The Edomite Jews and Sons of Cain. Who was arrested for treason during WW 2 by Congress for trading with the enemy? Prescott Bush. Who announced the formation of the NWO in America? His son, George Bush, Sr. Who is president of America today? George Bush, Jr. What do the Bush's have in common with Edomite Jews? They are all part of the serpent seedline of the Illuminati.

The Illuminati are at the top of two particular races of people known as the Edomite Jews and the Sons of Cain. And it goes all the way to the top where the Illuminati rule directly beneath the Jesuits. The Jesuits answer directly to the Black Pope. The Black Pope position is the real power position in the Vatican as opposed to the "white" pope position. Most think it is the Pope, John Paul II who rules from the Vatican. He may reside there, but the real power in the Vatican is hidden, and it's in the position known as the Black Pope. Black meaning hidden or secret. Today, Hans Van Kolvenbach, holds the title of the Black Pope. And he is second to none on this earth in establishing Satan's rise to power. He is literally Satan's right hand man.

So what do we have today? The false Jews in Israel being called real Jews. And the real "Jews" not even knowing who they are. We are being led to believe by the churches today that Satan's chosen are Yahweh's chosen people. Now are you ready to scream?

Orthodox, Reformed, and Messianic Jews disown the Jews running Zionism in Israel today. Not only are they Edomite Jews, but they are also known as the Khazar Jews as well. In 692 A.D. the Khazar Kingdom was established.

These were people that had adopted Judaism as their official religion because of the real Jews that lived among them and proseletyzed them. From that point on they passed themselves off as real Jews with a right to Palestine as their homeland. They are not lovers of Yahweh but haters of Him. They are of the same ancestry of Esau whom the Lord hated. The offspring of serpents of whom the Lord told them straight out were of "their father the devil." It was those of this seedline that instigated His crucifixion.

They had infiltrated as the Pharisees in Jesus era and still dominate the "Jewish' nation today. And these are the ones the churches believe are the "chosen" ones of the Lord. If they did 5 minutes of research into Israel today they would realize their error. Instead, they keep recycling errors and falsehoods week after week, month after month, year after year.

We are told by our churches that we must support Israel or the Lord will bring His judgment on this nation when it is the fact that we are supporting them that IS BRINGING His judgment on this nation. Israel today is the prophecy of evil figs of Jeremiah chapters 21-24 and the evil fig tree that Yahweh cursed. He wasn't cursing His own people, but those He hates, the serpent seedlines of Esau and Cain.

Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done." Mountain is often symbolic of government or authority.

The evil fig tree is the false Jews, the chosen people of Satan. He's telling us to rid the earth of the authority of the Edomites and certainly not to support it. But are we doing? Sending millions of dollars in financial aid and weapons to them yearly. Do you see the irony now? Do you see WHY judgment is coming to America?

If the Edomites are the ones inhabiting Israel today and the ones who call themselves Jews and are not, who and where are the real Jews? Scattered. America IS Israel. We are the tribes of Israel scattered all over this country along with the other white nations. The Jews of old were not dark skinned people. Noah was platinum blonde with blue eyes, David was ruddy with red hair. Ruddy meaning he had flushed cheeks, he could blush. Dark skinned people don't blush, neither are they born with blonde or red hair.

Esau is also described as ruddy and hairy. The Israelites back then were a white race. And who are the white races today? I'm not saying this to be racist I'm just telling you how it was and is. It was Noah's grandson Canaan (from Ham) who was the father of the darker skinned races, even the Arab races of today, Sheba and Dedan etc..were linked to Ham through his son Canaan.

If you read in Ezekiel 37:12-14 & 23 the Jews are not in the land of Israel today, they will not being regathered into the land, and will not be until the Lord returns. So the whole façade of Israel returning to their land in the last days is not true. When the Lord returns He will regather His people from the ends of the earth to the land of Israel and not until then. So who are the ones there now? The imposters.

Haven't you ever wondered why Yahweh hated Esau? Before he was even born? Why would the Lord make such a statement? Because there are many things that He hates and Esau was one of them (Mal. 1:3, Rom. 9:13). He hated the serpent seed.

Cain, The Serpent's Seed

But before we get to Esau, let's talk about Cain. In Genesis 3:15a He said, "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed." Enmity means mutual hatred. He is saying there is mutual hatred between the seedline of Satan's and the seedline of Eve's. So there are two seedlines. The serpent seed started with Cain and Adam's seed started with Seth. No matter how they have tried to cover it up in the KJV, the Dead Sea Scrolls and even verses such as Gen. 3:15 make it clear that Satan had his own seedline and it started back with Eve.

Many of you are hearing this for the first time. Because if you have sat in church programming all of your lives you haven't heard the truth even though it is right there in the Bible. The apple was figurative for sexual relations masked with the terminology "Eve was beguiled by Satan" and until people accept it as the truth it is, they will stay blind to the real war going on today which is between the serpent seedline and the rest of the human race.

Beguiled used in this text is the same as "seduced." Furthermore, Scripture says Cain "was of that wicked one" he was a son of Satan's through the seduction of Eve. The term "of" is the same that means offspring. Neither is Cain listed anywhere in the descendents of Adam which strongly indicates Cain was not his son. The official beginning of the wheat and the tares began with Eve. The wheat AND the tares.

Most church pastors today will pull out Genesis 4:1 which reads, "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord."

There are many omissions and translation errors throughout the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls confirm that Genesis 4:1 was tampered with. In fact the passage should read:

And Adam knew his wife Eve, who was pregnant by Sammael (Satan), and she conceived and bare Cain, and he was like the heavenly beings, and not like the earthly beings, and she said, I have gotten a man from the angel of the Lord.
Now we know that anything of the Lord is confirmed elsewhere. IF Cain was indeed Satan's son, we wouldn't have to count on just one passage to prove it.

In fact there are many: I John 3:12 "Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his (half) brother.." Here the word "of" in Greek is #1537 in the Strong's Concordance. When used implying a person, it means "a son of or offspring."

Compare this with other translations:

The New Testament in Modern English: "We are none of us to have the spirit of Cain, who was a son of the devil.."

Living Bible: "We are not to be like Cain, who belonged to Satan.."

New English Bible: "..unlike Cain who was a child of the evil one.."

New Century Bible: "Do not be like Cain who belonged to the Evil One."

New Jerusalem Bible: "..not to be like Cain, who was from the Evil One.."

And the popular commentaries confirm the same thing:

The Wycliffe Bible Commentary page 1473: "He (Cain) is said to have belonged to the family of the wicked one."

Matthew Poole's Commentary on the Holy Bible, volume 3, page 936. "Which showed him (Cain) to be of that wicked one, of the serpent's seed: so early was such seed sown, and so ancient the enmity between seed and seed."

Matthew Henry's Commentary, volume 6 page 1077: "It showed that he (Cain) was as the firstborn of the serpent's seed.."

In John 8:44 Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and proclaimed, 'Ye are of your father the devil.." The term "of" meaning generation, offspring. They were of the physical seed of their father the devil.

Trees are often used as metaphors in regards to people. Jesus was the "tree of life."

We also find:

Mat 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by [his] fruit.

Now back to the Garden of Eden. In Genesis 2:16 we read:

And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
In Genesis 3:3 Eve says to Lucifer the snake,

And the woman said unto the serpent, (Nahash), We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Adam and Eve had been commanded not to eat of or touch the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. In Genesis 3:13:

"And the Lord said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."
In Strong's, #398 the term "eat" means to eat, also to lay. The term "touch" in Strong's is #5060 which means naga, to touch, also to have sexual intercourse. Both terms had and have sexual connotations to them.

The tree of knowledge was the means to sexual knowledge. Knowledge is to "know." Knowing means to perceive, experience, learn. It is also used as an euphemism of "to know someone" sexually as when Adam "knew" his wife. The terms eat, touch, and know are often used in Biblical lingo for sexual relations. Lucifer was the way of knowing good and evil. He was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil because through him they would learn evil, they would perceive evil, and they would experience it.

Who was the tree of life in the Garden of Eden? Yahshua was. Who was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Lucifer. How do we 'eat of the tree of life?" We commune with Him. We are never to commune with Lucifer, and in this instance he seduced Eve, impregnated her, and began his own genealogical offspring and seedline on this earth that is part of us today.

Before Adam even had a chance to consummate his relationship with Eve, she was already pregnant with Lucifer's child, Cain. And that is what the Illuminati bloodlines of the New World Order don't want you to know. They are Cain's seed, of the wicked one. And it is these bloodlines of Cain and Esau working together through the control of vast wealth around the world that are bringing the Antichrist to power.


The Parable of The Wheat and Tares

The parable of the wheat and tares is found in Matthew 13:24-30 and 37-43. Sandwiched in between in verse 35 is the proclamation: "I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world." Jesus then revealed the significance of the parable as meaning He (Yahweh) had fathered the good seed (wheat) and that the tares belonged to the wicked one, they had been fathered by Satan.


Verses 24-30:
The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way.

But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

So the servants of the house-holder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? From whence then hath it tares?

He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

In verses 38-43 Jesus gives us the meaning of the parable:

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity.

And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

There were several declarations made in this parable that the churches often ignore.

1. The good seed were fathered by the Son of Man, Son of Adam.
2. The good seed, Adamites are the genetic sons of Yahweh.
3. The tares (Cain's seed) are the Genetic sons of Satan.
4. The enemy that fathered the tares is the same serpent of Genesis 3:15
5. The sons of Adam (wheat) will then inherit the Kingdom after the tares (sons of Cain) are destroyed.

Again, as stated in verse 38, "The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one" This is not only a physical lineage, but a spiritual one as well.

Yahshua told the Pharisees of His day, "..ye are not my sheep.." in John 10:26. In Josephus, Wars 2:8:2 Jewish Historian Josephus makes it quite clear the Pharisees and Sadducees were not Israelites by birth:

For there are three philosophical sects among the Jews. The followers of the first of whom are the Pharisees; of the second the Sadducees; and of the third sect, who pretends to a severer discipline, are called Essens. These last are Jews (Judah) by birth, and seem to have a greater affection for one another than the other sects have.
The real Jews of Jesus's day had absorbed those with contaminated Edomite hybrid blood, and therefore these could claim both Abraham and Isaac as their fathers.

The wheat and the tares will continually throughout time grow and live together until the end of the age when the angels will separate them. What about the flood? The seedline started over again with Ham and his wife's offspring Canaan.

Esau, the Serpent Seed

There are two different groups of people throughout the Bible and our past, present, and future. Those who are elected to grace while the other is elected for wrath and destruction. These are two specific groups with two specific elections and only they can hold these elections, no one else is like them.

It is a specific seedline? No. Although it may sound like it means just that, it does not mean that all. That would be like saying all those born into a cursed seedline are doomed for hell and all those born into Yahweh's chosen seedline are awarded heaven.

There are three major aspects that come into play at all times in regarding all things. The choices Yahweh makes, the choices Lucifer are allowed to make, and the individual choices we make.

Esau was born of a good seedline but he chose to go the way of the wicked. Just as those born of cursed seedlines can choose to go the way of the righteous. Do we choose or are we chosen ahead of time to do exactly what we do? Yahweh knows the end from the beginning and He knows those who are His and those who are not because He knows exactly what is going to happen. And He places His chosen vessels of honor anywhere He wants to, good or bad seedline. And Lucifer will do the same thing, except his vessels are of dishonor.

Some say the whole war started with Jacob and Esau, when it actually goes back to Cain, and in these last days it is going to culminate as the seedlines of Cain through the Antichrist will try to destroy and annihilate the seed of Jacob.

Remember it was Esau who married into the cursed Cain race, corrupting his seed and offspring. He wasn't born into a cursed seedline, he turned his back on his good seedline and went the way of the wicked.

The seed of Jacob is both the House of Judah and the House of Israel, the 14 tribes. We (America) are part of Israel folks. Now don't go off into the British Israelism theory because it is flawed and serves the purposes of the Illuminati who are trying to claim the British throne goes through King David when it's been sabotaged over the years and especially the only ones on the throne there now are imposters.

If you look at much of the scattered tribes of Israel today they include Germany, France, Britain, America, and others..the predominant white races of the world. America itself contains a mixture of all the tribes of Israel here and many of us are linked to one of the sons. Manasseh is dominate in America, the 14th tribe of Israel while Britain is Ephraim. Reuben is France, Dan is Greece, etc..

The Gentiles relate to the House of Judah and the House of Israel as those who have converted to Yahweh (for those who do). The entire last days war puts the gentiles (other races) in the middle of a war between Satan's people and Yahweh's people. It is a war to see who will rule from Mt. Zion in Jerusalem with Satan working through his seedline and Yahweh working through His to see who wins. Well if you have jumped to the back of the book you know who wins, Yahweh does. But Satan will be allowed to attempt to rule the world for 42 months before he is utterly demolished by the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

If you read in Genesis 25:21-23 the war started back in the womb of their mother, Rebekah:

"And Isaac intreated the Lord for his wife, because she was barren: and the Lord was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.
And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus?

And she went to enquire of the Lord. And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger."

The twins in her womb were Jacob and Esau. They were already at war with each other then, fighting in the womb, for the Lord had ordained them as two different types of people that would be at war with each other. One would be stronger than the other and the elder would serve the younger. Esau, being born first, would serve Jacob.

And if you read the story of Esau and Jacob, Esau selling his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of red (Edom) pottage (lintel beans) it was because the birthright meant nothing to Esau, he despised it. What was the birthright? Bringing forth through his seedline the redeemer of Adam, Jesus. Esau did not care about it and Jacob was willing to deal and deceive to get it, it meant everything to Jacob.

Esau despised his birthright, and Yahweh despised him. Esau was determined to go his own way and do his own thing and that is what he did. In Genesis 26:34-35 we read how he committed his own seedline to eternal ruin and becoming "Sons of Perdition," even as Judas who betrayed Jesus was. Not only did he give his birthright away to Jacob, he broke the hearts of both Isaac and Rebekah by taking Hittite women as his wives. The Hittites were descendents of Heth, and Heth was one of the sons of Canaan, a cursed seed. Canaan was a son of Ham, and father of all Canaanites including the Hittites. These people were a cursed seed because of what Ham did to his father, Noah.

And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Noah awoke from his wine, and KNEW WHAT his younger son had done unto him. And he said, cursed be Canaan Gen. 9:22, 24-25.

Another event covered up by figurative language. The actual sin was an homosexual act Ham committed on Noah and then laughed about it to his brothers. When Noah awoke from his drunken state, he "knew" what Ham had done to him and cursed not Ham himself, but his offspring Canaan.
The Hittites were the power brokers in the known world, much as today.

They controlled most of the economics (money) and merchandising (corporations) and were a very powerful influence. They were worshippers of Satan and had much wealth. When Esau married Hittites he created high treason against the Most High by adulterating his holy seed with the serpent and cursed seed. He sold his birthright for red pottage, mixes his seed with the serpent seed, and by doing so condemns himself and his entire offspring to the Lake of Fire (tares).

Judas who betrayed Jesus was of the serpent seedline as well. He and the Antichrist are both called "Sons of Perdition." Perdition means eternal ruin. All of Esau's descendents were sons of perdition, sons of eternal ruin. Jesus said that Judas was a devil (John 6:70). Sons of Perdition are Satanic spirits sent to this earth by their father Satan. They were prepared and chosen for destruction through their Election before they were even born.

The end of the story of the birthright blessings for Jacob and Esau are rather prophetic and an overall picture of the last days. Esau, realizing there was money to be had from being the firstborn included in the blessing, runs off to prepare meat for Isaac who is going to give him his birthright (nevermind he had promised it to Jacob when he realized there was money involved. He was going to go back on his promise with Jacob). But Rebekah heard what was going on and helped devise a plan to where Jacob could deceive Isaac into believing he was Esau and give him the blessing that Esau had traded Jacob for over a bowl of red pottage. After realizing Jacob had already received Isaac's blessing, Esau begged for a blessing as well, as part of his blessing Isaac told him:

"And by the sword thou shalt live, and shalt serve thy brother; (be under his authority) and it shall come to pass thou shalt have dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck" Genesis 27:40.
And the war continued between Jacob and Esau. In Genesis 27:41 we read:

"And Esau hated Jacob (enmity) because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob."
Jacob was determined to kill Jacob. Jacob had hit Esau where it hurt the most. Jacob got the wealth as part of the birthright he had taken away from Esau. That is probably why Esau married Hittite women, because of his lust for power and wealth. And that seed is the same way today. They control the money around the entire world.

They are called Edomites because of Edom, the color red, which is what the bowl of pottage was. Esau was also very red/ruddy and hairy. And to this day it is still their mission to kill Jacob. Esau never succeeded in killing Jacob, but to this day the war continues and the seed of Esau, the Edomites seek to get rid of Jacob's descendents, which are primarily today's Christians and believers in Yahweh. Jacob's descendents became known as Israelites.

Esau's descendents also became known as Reds, which is also seen as the symbolic color of Communism. All of the "isms" were created by the serpent seed such as Socialism, Nazism, Humanism, Liberalism, etc.. and are the backbone of the first beast of Revelation 13 which is the same scarlet colored beast mentioned in Revelation 17 with seven heads and ten horns.

Also notice the prophecy that Isaac gave Esau that he would live by the sword and take dominion over the earth. In Rev. 13:10 we read the first beast lives by the sword, will take dominion over the earth, and will die by the sword. Same seedline.

It is the New World Order and Zionism that carries the serpent seedline today. It is ruled in the background by the Illuminati families of the Serpent's seedline. It is Satan's master plan to bring the entire world under a global government through the New World Order so he can rule.

Satan's seed will make war against the Lamb's seed (believers, Israelites and Judahites) "these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." Rev. 17

Today, the world banking Edomite/Hittite/Canaanite/counterfeit Jews under Satan's rule control the world's economy and preparing the world for global government and the rise of their master, Satan as the Antichrist.

In the book of Obadiah there is a prophecy written to the serpent seedline of Esau for the last days.

The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock (they hide themselves away from public view with their underground bases), whose habitation is high (world authority, political authority); that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground (arrogance of their power and strongholds)? (verse 3)
Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle (Illuminati symbol), and though thou set thy nest among the stars (space stations and planetary bases), thence will I bring thee down, saith the Lord. (verse 4)

How are the things of Esau searched out! How are his hidden things sought up! (Esau is working through deception and lies and keep their real plans hidden from public view). (verse 6)

Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom (the Learned Elders of Zion, which rule behind the scenes)., and understanding out of the mount of Esau? (authority) (verse 8)

And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that they may be cut off by slaughter (the Lord's judgment on them when He returns). For the violence against thy brother Jacob shall cover thee (war on the saints), and thou shalt be cut off forever..(verse 9)

But, upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it. (verse 18)

And saviours (judges)shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount (authority, government) of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's. (verse 21)

Yahweh wins!

Today the battle rages on between the physical and spiritual. Cain's seed vs. Yahweh's seed. It may look like Yahweh's seed is losing during the Antichrist's War on the Saints but we know that Yahweh Himself will have the last act on the stage called Earth.

Furthermore, we know the future of the final two characters to come to earth to lead the battle against Yahweh's people..the False Prophet and the Antichrist. In Revelation 19:20 we read:

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

And what happens to their master Lucifer Satan? His fate is foretold of in Revelation 20:


And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold of the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years.

And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Lucifer is chained and cast into the abyss for 1000 years then loosed for a little while to wage one last final attempt against the Most High. After he loses yet another attempt to overcome the Most High, he is thrown in the lake of fire to stay there forever.

In Revelation 20:10 it says:

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and false prophet are and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Yahweh told me this in regards to mixing of the seedlines:

Daughter,
The mixture of My children with the serpent's seed was something I allowed to serve My own purposes. Just as I allowed Satan to defile My garden, I allowed him to defile my people.

The way to truth and righteousness is through Me. It always has been and it has not changed. My priests served the people, they did not sanctify them or make them whole. I alone can do that.

Todays priests seek to save which they cannot. They lead My people to errors and doctrines of man that cannot save them, nor do they honor or please Me.

Tell them I am the door. There is no other. Those who want Me must walk through My door to Me. There is no other way.

They worship Baal and call him their god thinking I am the one they worship. My judgment will come on this carnal and wicked system of religion. It is not of Me. Religion profits man, worship and sacrifice profits Me. Sacrifice the cares and wants of this world for the cares and wants in Me only and you will never be unsatisfied. I can give you your heart's desires. This world cannot fulfill you. This world is an endless form of greed and want. Never satisfying, it waxes worse and worse, evil and more evil.

Yes Mithra has hidden through the ages behind every god and he will ultimately rise again to counterfeit Me and My Word. I will reveal this to you because you seek My face, you seek Me, and I will reveal great things to you because you are humble and faithful.

I love you child. Tell them the world had run it's course, it's almost time for all the prophecies of old to be fulfilled. Many will never be ready. But stay in Me for I have many things for you to accomplish before the time. Time is short. Daily seek Me so I can use you. I have shown you many things in just a short amount of time. I will show you even more.

I love you My child. If you could only see how much you make Me smile and know how much I do love you, you would never feel or want for anything again of this world. You're almost there child. Yet you still have things of Me to do in a short time. Be faithful. Be still and hear My voice. I love you, your Father, the Most High.


Not only has their been a defiling of our seedlines with Satan's seed, but with other fallen angels as well. Interbreeding has been going on since the beginning of our creation with the Watchers who fell described in Enoch chapters 6 through 10 and Genesis 6:4. They fell before the flood and after.

[Cleitus]

Jews are the Children of Satan.

[Visitor_22]

Jews are the Children of Satan.

LOL!

[Illancha]

"If Muhammad was an Arab then God is a Chechen!"

I once said those words as a child to an Arab. Needless to say I am a wiser person now and to be quite fair I did not actually believe so even back then.

[Manifest Destiny]

Jews are God's "chosen people." Christians believe God has a son, a Jew called Yeshua (Jesus). If God picked the Jews.", and his son is a Jew, does that mean God is a Judean?

Is God Jewish?

28891

Christians don't love the baby Jesus because he's of Jewish heritage. They love him because he founded Christianity.

[zhaoyun]

Isn't it a coincidence that the Jews are the Chosen People when you are believing in the Jewish god? lol

[armenianbodyhair]

No.

[zhaoyun]

I'm not coming on to you, but if that's your actual photo, you are a very gorgeous woman.

[Nehellenia]

Chosen just means, they were the first peoples to follow his commandments, it doesn't mean they are the only peoples who will be chosen to enter Heaven or whatever else someday, if and when..

[Mjod]

God, being God, wouldn't need a religion. Would He benefit form being Jewish? No, he's God...

[Velko]

Jesus was the first antisemite and was crucified for it. How can God be part of a religion that man names and materializes?

[Teyrn]

Given that the Almighty pre-existed any particular ethnicity of humankind, Jewish or otherwise, the answer is NO. As the sacred writings say "Let Us make man in Our image etc." If God was a Jew (or Aryan or whatever) then one would assume that all of mankind would be Jews, Aryans, etc. rather than a diverse species of many kinds.

[Visitor_22]

Yet another proof Jesus wasn't god, but just a rabbi.

[MINARDOWICZ]

God isn't human, so he can't belong to any socially constructed groups.

Or genetically at that...

[Úza]

God isn't Jewish, because then he'd be worshipping himself...and God worships no one. C'mon man.

[Rædwald]

This whole thread :picard1:

[EyeOfTheTiger]

no, if he was jewish he probably had j1 or e1b1b, but he doesn't exist anyways.

[PolishAmerican190]

Let's say god is Jewish ! We need to give the Jews in this room some credit for doing something good instead of constantly bashing them.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Mediterranean spaghetti, Origin Italy. MTDNA I-M1 (Italian Meatball). Y-DNA- Luigi

http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymiller/files/2013/06/1768142.jpg

[Anglojew]

Jesus was the first antisemite and was crucified for it. How can God be part of a religion that man names and materializes?

Jesus was crucified by the Romans for being accuse of being KING OF THE JEWS (because he was a descendant of David and a more legitimate candidate for King than the Roman puppet Herod);

http://blog.chron.com/iconia/files/legacy/Sacred_Made_Real_UP_WLA_2010-0828.jpg

The EXACT opposite.

[Svipdag]

No.

Jesus was a Jew because his mother was a Jew, not his father. God has no mother, therefore God cannot be a Jew.

Splendidly Jesuitical reasoning !