Classify sicilian actress Margareth Madè

[MM81]

Sicilian from Paternò. Height 177 cm.

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[gori]

italoid

[Cern]

Good-looking woman. Looks CM+ South Italian.

[leisitox]

CM+dinaro-med

[urrakiberg]

noric taurid

[MM81]

Italoid?! :mmmm: South italian is a localization and/or cultural definition, not a phenotype.

[Sikeliot]

I know a Greek girl from Epirus who is very similar.

This actress is the same type as Giusy Buscemi.. Greco-Roman features but with lighter coloring. But she could probably pass anywhere from France to the Balkans with varying levels of frequency.

[MM81]

In practrice, what are greco-roman features?

[aherne]

Looks strongly Greek-inspired... There is something Italic about her as well (higher influence of "Atlantid" and Cro-Magnid). Nothing unusual.

[Anthropologique]

Dinaro-CM + East-med.

[MM81]

I did a morph on morphthing of borreby+dinarid+gracile med. It fits quite well Margareth's look, IMHO
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This is Margareth:
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[Dacul]

I also see borreby at her,mainly borreby.Is clear as day light,but not if you are biased and you classify people based on what country they come from.
How you people here can be so lacked of knowledge and so biased?
Just for the info of the people who said she is mainly med,vikings raided in Sicilia,in Sicilia is a significant percentage of I1 scandinavian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_expansion#Islamic_World
And also normans (which has a lot of genetics from vikings) ruled a period of time Sicily.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Sicily#Norman_conquest
:lol: at people who classified her as med,when she has such a squared face.

[EagleAtHeart]

Wikipedia says she's half Egyptian. I wouldn't have guessed. Something is off, but I would have thought med+arminoid.

[Dacul]

Oh really?Armenoid with such a narrow nose?
And if she has ancestry from Egypt,that does not means she has african ancestry,since I think are enough people in Egypt without african ancestry.

[alfieb]

Italian and Sicilian wikipedias say nothing for Egyptian mother. :confused:

She does not look Armenoid or Borreby (those are atypical for Sicily and she is not).

[Dacul]

She is passing best as woman from North France,from my point of view.
Quite atypical for Sicily.

[Dacul]

Enjoy the real Y DNA results for Siciliy:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Sicily/default.aspx?section=yresults
So from around 420 lines there,are 26 I1+I2B and 3 R-L46 - which are clearly germanic.
Is clear than 29 lines from 420 are clearly germanic.
There is also some R1A1,but is not said by clades,about 18 paternal lines.
(part of these is not all can be also brought by germanic people).

[MM81]

Wikipedia says she's half Egyptian. I wouldn't have guessed. Something is off, but I would have thought med+arminoid.
Wikipedia is wrong. Both her parents are sicilian, she's a celebrity here her ancestry is quite well known ;)
I don't know who wrote that article, it's a rough mistake. I'm surprised by the number of unchecked articles one can find on Wiki...

[MM81]

I also see borreby at her,mainly borreby.Is clear as day light,but not if you are biased and you classify people based on what country they come from.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_expansion#Islamic_World
And also normans (which has a lot of genetics from vikings) ruled a period of time Sicily.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Sicily#Norman_conquest
:lol: at people who classified her as med,when she has such a squared face.
I don't know what historical people gave her the CM (probably borreby) features. All I can say is that the borreby type (nothing more, nothing less than an unreduced and often fair alpinoid) is not rare in Italy. I'm a living example of that, and my ancestry is full italian.

[alfieb]

You're Ligurian. Borreby is associated with Celtic peoples. Celts inhabited Liguria. She is Sicilian. No Celtic there.

[Dacul]

You're Ligurian. Borreby is associated with Celtic peoples. Celts inhabited Liguria. She is Sicilian. No Celtic there.

You are so indoctrinated,than you did not even checked the Y DNA of Sicily link,that I posted here.
That is made from the males from Sicily (about 420 males) who checked their paternal lines.
Already told,29 lines are for sure germanics (26 I1+I2B and 3 R1B germanic).
There are also 3 people having R1b-L21 which is clearly celtic.
There is also some R1A1 which has nothing to do with Italy,a large part of that can be brought by normans and vikings,in Sicily.

[MM81]

Alfieb: the CM influence in her is evident. Maybe a remaining of the ancient norman domination, or even a more ancient sicel feature. God knows... Sicilian ancestry is always a mess ;)

[Dacul]

She is a very beautiful woman,anyway.
She does not have CM nose,which is quite wide and developed,but a fine nose,which makes her even more beautiful.

[alfieb]

Alfieb: the CM influence in her is evident. Maybe a remaining of the ancient norman domination, or even a more ancient sicel feature. God knows... Sicilian ancestry is always a mess ;)
Oh, most certainly.

[Sikeliot]

To me despite her coloring she still looks distinctly southern European.

R1a also could be Ionian Greek, btw. It doesn't necessarily have to be Norman. And even if the y-dna shows a strong Germanic input or Celtic, the autosomal DNA does not and that is what matters more.

[le penalty]

Atypical sicilian, too light

[Sikeliot]

I think she actually looks typical, or at least part of the variation. I think she'd fit anywhere from France to Greece.

[MM81]

Atypical sicilian, too light
Too light? Her pigmentation is average.
I think you have no particular confidence at sicilians, man. She's not light at all... This is how a light sicilian looks alike: actress Tea Falco from Catania
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Or a male counterpart, actor Gabriele Greco from Messina
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[Sikeliot]

Well, average Sicilian is brown hair, brown eyes.. but she is not especially light, no. I think people have exaggerated both the extent to which she is light and the extent to which she looks Northern European or can pass there..

[Sikeliot]

Here is an Epirote Greek girl very similar to her:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/391888_2502534699306_654992140_n.jpg

[MM81]

The only pseudo-atypical element in Margareth's features is the eye colour, IMO. This singer from Catania, Carmen Consoli, is quite average-looking for a sicilian and her pigmentation is not that different, except the eyes/hair of course.
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[le penalty]

Too light? Her pigmentation is average.
I think you have no particular confidence at sicilians, man. She's not light at all... This is how a light sicilian looks alike: actress Tea Falco from Catania
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Or a male counterpart, actor Gabriele Greco from Messina
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You take the extrem, maybe 5% of sicilians look like that, Sicilian look more tunisian or lebenase than european

[MM81]

Margareth Madè 5% of sicilians? She doesn't represent a majority, but man, you're far from the real percentage. And tunisian-looking sicilians could be just 1-2%... But I sense I'm wasting my time here.

[Sikeliot]

Sicilians in general have typical south Italian or Greek features (and Margareth Madè does too.. she does NOT look Germanic). Some are lighter like the people posted, and some do look Tunisian or Lebanese. There is a lot of variation, and that only makes sense. You have everything from people who can pass as Swedes to people who can pass as Persians.

[Sikeliot]

I think this woman is a good example of "typical" Sicilian. Greco-Roman.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3381/3655436200_dda0d91972.jpg

[Dacul]

To me despite her coloring she still looks distinctly southern European.

R1a also could be Ionian Greek, btw. It doesn't necessarily have to be Norman. And even if the y-dna shows a strong Germanic input or Celtic, the autosomal DNA does not and that is what matters more.

Well we did not saw her autosomal DNA results so we can tell.
I do not believe those maps from Eupedia,if those are as "accurate" as the Y DNA tables,is clear how good are.
I think there is significant NW european admixture in Sicily.

[Sikeliot]

I think there is significant NW european admixture in Sicily.

There's not. Most Sicilians on 23andme cluster firmly in far southeastern Europe, about as "southern" as a European can get.

Haplogroups aside, you need to look at autosomal scores. The NW European admix is very, very low. A drop of rain in the ocean.

There are a lot of people who LOOK Northern European influenced, and I was surprised myself that the genetic admixture from them is so small.. but we'll see. Maybe the DNA tests so far have been faulty.

[Ianus]

Dinaromed+CM

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I once read she was half Egyptian but I dont think that is true at all. Cmnq e bellissima.

[Scipio Africanus]

I once read she was half Egyptian but I dont think that is true at all. Cmnq e bellissima.

She is fully Italian,real name Margareth Maccarrone

[Sikeliot]

Pontid, I'd say.

[Tooting Carmen]

East Med

[Sikeliot]

Looks identical to a Greek girl I know from Epirus, who I previously considered Slavic looking.. maybe not.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Some alpine in her. Very attractive. Yes post more hotties:thumb001:

[aherne]

Med + some CM

[Ulla]

http://www.celluloidportraits.com/img/Registiattori/img02/Margareth%20Made%202010%206_363_L.jpg

http://www.celluloidportraits.com/img/Registiattori/img02/Margareth%20Made%202010%203_363_L.jpg

http://www.altfg.com/Stars/festivals/venice-09--margareth-made.JPG