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curupira
02-28-2013, 03:17 PM
Beginning with the Tuscans, culturally perhaps the most outstanding (the Renaissance!)

Tuscans

DodecadOracle(c(4.8, 0, 0, 0, 37.9, 18.7, 0.5, 0, 7.2, 0.5, 30.5, 0), k=82)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Tuscan" "0"
[2,] "TSI30" "2.3896"
[3,] "C_Italian_D" "4.7624"
[4,] "O_Italian_D" "6.1384"
[5,] "N_Italian_D" "9.985"
[6,] "North_Italian" "10.4355"
[7,] "Greek_D" "12.625"
[8,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "13.5348"
[9,] "Sicilian_D" "13.586"
[10,] "Ashkenazi_D" "17.6649"
[11,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "17.9025"
[12,] "Baleares_1KG" "20.8507"
[13,] "Bulgarians_Y" "21.0471"
[14,] "Bulgarian_D" "21.5465"
[15,] "Sephardic_Jews" "21.6222"
[16,] "Romanians" "22.0601"
[17,] "Morocco_Jews" "22.8193"
[18,] "Galicia_1KG" "23.1534"
[19,] "Extremadura_1KG" "23.6635"
[20,] "Murcia_1KG" "23.9422"
[21,] "Andalucia_1KG" "23.9758"
[22,] "Portuguese_D" "24.5813"
[23,] "Canarias_1KG" "24.7267"
[24,] "Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "25.6618"
[25,] "Spaniards" "25.6895"
[26,] "Cataluna_1KG" "26.8993"
[27,] "Spanish_D" "27.1801"
[28,] "Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "27.7519"
[29,] "Valencia_1KG" "27.9185"
[30,] "Cantabria_1KG" "28.3505"
[31,] "Aragon_1KG" "29.0424"
[32,] "French" "29.6604"
[33,] "French_D" "30.1647"
[34,] "Cypriots" "31.209"
[35,] "Turkish_D" "32.3325"
[36,] "Hungarians" "34.987"
[37,] "Turks" "35.2417"
[38,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "36.2112"
[39,] "Lebanese" "36.8007"
[40,] "German_D" "36.8748"
[41,] "Dutch_D" "38.1525"
[42,] "Kent_1KG" "38.166"
[43,] "Syrians" "38.7322"
[44,] "English_D" "38.909"
[45,] "CEU30" "38.9111"
[46,] "Cornwall_1KG" "39.0355"
[47,] "Nogais_Y" "39.1897"
[48,] "Sardinian" "39.2018"
[49,] "British_D" "39.9296"
[50,] "Druze" "40.0322"
[51,] "Jordanians" "40.2237"
[52,] "British_Isles_D" "40.3161"
[53,] "Uzbekistan_Jews" "41.3399"
[54,] "Palestinian" "41.588"
[55,] "Kumyks_Y" "41.6251"
[56,] "Argyll_1KG" "41.6458"
[57,] "Irish_D" "41.7234"
[58,] "Orcadian" "42.1698"
[59,] "Orkney_1KG" "42.5921"
[60,] "Turkmens_Y" "42.8572"
[61,] "Armenian_D" "42.8845"
[62,] "Pais_Vasco_1KG" "43.1658"
[63,] "Kurds_Y" "43.3397"
[64,] "Georgia_Jews" "43.6685"
[65,] "Assyrian_D" "43.6826"
[66,] "Kurd_D" "43.7316"
[67,] "Iranian_D" "43.7955"
[68,] "Azerbaijan_Jews" "43.8467"
[69,] "Armenians_15_Y" "43.9624"
[70,] "Iraq_Jews" "44.0819"
[71,] "Armenians" "44.4789"
[72,] "Egyptans" "44.5744"
[73,] "Iranians" "44.9398"
[74,] "Samaritians" "45.5181"
[75,] "Iranian_Jews" "45.8747"
[76,] "Adygei" "46.815"
[77,] "Chechens_Y" "47.2852"
[78,] "Lezgins" "47.3406"
[79,] "French_Basque" "47.4256"
[80,] "Balkars_Y" "47.4781"
[81,] "Norwegian_D" "47.84"
[82,] "Tajiks_Y" "47.9105"

Northern Italians

DodecadOracle(c(4.5, 0, 0.7, 0, 44, 22, 0, 0, 5.8, 0, 22.9, 0), k=82)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "North_Italian" "0"
[2,] "N_Italian_D" "3.5071"
[3,] "TSI30" "8.3899"
[4,] "Tuscan" "10.4355"
[5,] "Baleares_1KG" "10.8217"
[6,] "O_Italian_D" "12.2221"
[7,] "Galicia_1KG" "13.4179"
[8,] "Extremadura_1KG" "14.2773"
[9,] "C_Italian_D" "14.2955"
[10,] "Murcia_1KG" "14.6925"
[11,] "Andalucia_1KG" "14.9345"
[12,] "Portuguese_D" "15.4848"
[13,] "Spaniards" "15.574"
[14,] "Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "15.8767"
[15,] "Cataluna_1KG" "16.7227"
[16,] "Spanish_D" "17.2406"
[17,] "Canarias_1KG" "17.3133"
[18,] "Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "17.9179"
[19,] "Valencia_1KG" "17.9215"
[20,] "Cantabria_1KG" "18.1717"
[21,] "Aragon_1KG" "19.0735"
[22,] "French" "21.0561"
[23,] "French_D" "21.6705"
[24,] "Greek_D" "22.1253"
[25,] "Sicilian_D" "23.0712"
[26,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "23.1881"
[27,] "Bulgarians_Y" "24.4679"
[28,] "Romanians" "24.6534"
[29,] "Bulgarian_D" "25.102"
[30,] "Ashkenazi_D" "27.1015"
[31,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "27.5764"
[32,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "29.3658"
[33,] "Morocco_Jews" "30.3509"
[34,] "Kent_1KG" "30.4033"
[35,] "Sephardic_Jews" "30.5064"
[36,] "Cornwall_1KG" "30.842"
[37,] "Dutch_D" "31.0688"
[38,] "English_D" "31.2207"
[39,] "CEU30" "31.2658"
[40,] "German_D" "31.689"
[41,] "British_D" "31.786"
[42,] "Hungarians" "32.2492"
[43,] "British_Isles_D" "32.4279"
[44,] "Pais_Vasco_1KG" "33.3207"
[45,] "Irish_D" "33.7562"
[46,] "Argyll_1KG" "33.999"
[47,] "Orcadian" "34.2682"
[48,] "Orkney_1KG" "34.8142"
[49,] "Sardinian" "34.8442"
[50,] "French_Basque" "38.1766"
[51,] "Cypriots" "41.2398"
[52,] "Norwegian_D" "41.2547"
[53,] "Turkish_D" "42.1214"
[54,] "Swedish_D" "42.9096"
[55,] "Turks" "44.8138"
[56,] "Lebanese" "45.6775"
[57,] "Nogais_Y" "46.2016"
[58,] "Syrians" "47.1039"
[59,] "Jordanians" "48.3879"
[60,] "Polish_D" "48.8416"
[61,] "Turkmens_Y" "49.0271"
[62,] "Algerian_D" "49.2853"
[63,] "Ukranians_Y" "49.447"
[64,] "Palestinian" "49.6441"
[65,] "Druze" "49.7017"
[66,] "Kumyks_Y" "50.0691"
[67,] "Uzbekistan_Jews" "50.4695"
[68,] "Egyptans" "51.1294"
[69,] "Tajiks_Y" "51.4403"
[70,] "Kurds_Y" "51.6111"
[71,] "Mixed_Slav_D" "51.672"
[72,] "Kurd_D" "51.7808"
[73,] "Iranian_D" "51.8252"
[74,] "Iranians" "52.4054"
[75,] "Uzbeks" "52.7189"
[76,] "Armenian_D" "52.8973"
[77,] "Iraq_Jews" "53.3418"
[78,] "Assyrian_D" "53.3817"
[79,] "Georgia_Jews" "53.4198"
[80,] "Azerbaijan_Jews" "53.5379"
[81,] "Armenians_15_Y" "53.9087"

Sicilians

DodecadOracle(c(4.5, 0, 4.1, 0, 30, 11.9, 0.1, 0.7, 11.9, 0, 36.5, 0.2),k=82)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Sicilian_D" "0"
[2,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "2.0372"
[3,] "Ashkenazi_D" "5.728"
[4,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "6.1514"
[5,] "Sephardic_Jews" "8.5417"
[6,] "C_Italian_D" "9.14"
[7,] "Greek_D" "9.5525"
[8,] "Morocco_Jews" "11.3119"
[9,] "Tuscan" "13.586"
[10,] "O_Italian_D" "14.2681"
[11,] "TSI30" "15.023"
[12,] "Cypriots" "18.674"
[13,] "Turkish_D" "22.4515"
[14,] "N_Italian_D" "22.4562"
[15,] "North_Italian" "23.0712"
[16,] "Lebanese" "24.4963"
[17,] "Turks" "25.3839"
[18,] "Bulgarian_D" "25.5078"
[19,] "Bulgarians_Y" "25.5198"
[20,] "Romanians" "27.0797"
[21,] "Druze" "27.2584"
[22,] "Syrians" "27.3287"
[23,] "Jordanians" "28.2335"
[24,] "Palestinian" "29.5845"
[25,] "Uzbekistan_Jews" "30.6358"
[26,] "Armenian_D" "31.8251"
[27,] "Iraq_Jews" "32.1936"
[28,] "Georgia_Jews" "32.1969"
[29,] "Assyrian_D" "32.2557"
[30,] "Baleares_1KG" "32.3099"
[31,] "Azerbaijan_Jews" "32.472"
[32,] "Samaritians" "32.8393"
[33,] "Canarias_1KG" "32.9106"
[34,] "Armenians_15_Y" "33.0643"
[35,] "Egyptans" "33.7769"
[36,] "Armenians" "33.9813"
[37,] "Galicia_1KG" "34.0018"
[38,] "Murcia_1KG" "34.1322"
[39,] "Iranian_Jews" "34.1568"
[40,] "Extremadura_1KG" "34.1792"
[41,] "Andalucia_1KG" "34.499"
[42,] "Portuguese_D" "34.5936"
[43,] "Kurds_Y" "34.7438"
[44,] "Kumyks_Y" "35.0435"
[45,] "Nogais_Y" "35.0601"
[46,] "Kurd_D" "35.2036"
[47,] "Iranian_D" "35.6347"
[48,] "Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "36.4309"
[49,] "Iranians" "37.0236"
[50,] "Spaniards" "37.2466"
[51,] "Turkmens_Y" "37.8539"
[52,] "Spanish_D" "38.1709"
[53,] "Cataluna_1KG" "38.6322"
[54,] "Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "38.7692"
[55,] "Valencia_1KG" "39.4469"
[56,] "Adygei" "39.8786"
[57,] "Cantabria_1KG" "39.9153"
[58,] "Balkars_Y" "40.3194"
[59,] "Aragon_1KG" "40.3742"
[60,] "Bedouin" "40.64"
[61,] "Yemenese" "40.6711"
[62,] "North_Ossetians_Y" "41.1314"
[63,] "Chechens_Y" "41.3293"
[64,] "French" "41.4464"
[65,] "French_D" "41.7917"
[66,] "Lezgins" "42.3421"
[67,] "Hungarians" "43.0194"
[68,] "Algerian_D" "43.0421"
[69,] "Sardinian" "45.6668"
[70,] "Tajiks_Y" "46.5276"
[71,] "German_D" "46.5705"
[72,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "46.9595"
[73,] "Uzbeks" "48.1134"
[74,] "Abhkasians_Y" "48.4185"
[75,] "Dutch_D" "48.9652"
[76,] "Kent_1KG" "49.3787"
[77,] "CEU30" "50.0421"
[78,] "English_D" "50.0437"
[79,] "Cornwall_1KG" "50.4189"
[80,] "Yemen_Jews" "51.0408"
[81,] "Georgians" "51.185"
[82,] "British_D" "51.2282"

Sardinians

DodecadOracle(c(0, 0, 2.6, 0, 70.5, 0, 0.1, 0, 5.8, 0, 20.9, 0),k=82)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Sardinian" "0"
[2,] "Andalucia_1KG" "27.8808"
[3,] "French_Basque" "29.5369"
[4,] "Aragon_1KG" "29.6189"
[5,] "Valencia_1KG" "29.9977"
[6,] "Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "30.0554"
[7,] "Murcia_1KG" "30.2762"
[8,] "Cantabria_1KG" "31.3616"
[9,] "Spaniards" "31.3772"
[10,] "Baleares_1KG" "32.0903"
[11,] "Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "32.151"
[12,] "Spanish_D" "32.1528"
[13,] "Pais_Vasco_1KG" "32.5507"
[14,] "Canarias_1KG" "33.0556"
[15,] "Extremadura_1KG" "33.9464"
[16,] "Cataluna_1KG" "34.1928"
[17,] "Galicia_1KG" "34.1991"
[18,] "North_Italian" "34.8442"
[19,] "Portuguese_D" "34.8643"
[20,] "N_Italian_D" "38.1997"
[21,] "TSI30" "38.3863"
[22,] "Tuscan" "39.2018"
[23,] "C_Italian_D" "41.5196"
[24,] "O_Italian_D" "44.1291"
[25,] "Sicilian_D" "45.6668"
[26,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "45.8996"
[27,] "French" "47.4213"
[28,] "Morocco_Jews" "47.5453"
[29,] "French_D" "48.1393"
[30,] "Sephardic_Jews" "49.2268"
[31,] "Greek_D" "50.1997"
[32,] "Ashkenazi_D" "50.364"
[33,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "51.231"
[34,] "Cornwall_1KG" "55.4284"
[35,] "British_D" "56.3811"
[36,] "Kent_1KG" "56.5052"
[37,] "English_D" "57.356"
[38,] "CEU30" "57.5103"
[39,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "57.7731"
[40,] "British_Isles_D" "57.9036"
[41,] "Bulgarians_Y" "58.25"
[42,] "Irish_D" "58.4582"
[43,] "Dutch_D" "58.7907"
[44,] "Romanians" "58.9658"
[45,] "Orcadian" "59.0778"
[46,] "Bulgarian_D" "59.1776"
[47,] "Cypriots" "59.1804"
[48,] "Argyll_1KG" "59.4114"
[49,] "Orkney_1KG" "59.9426"
[50,] "Algerian_D" "61.0472"
[51,] "German_D" "62.6863"
[52,] "Moroccan_D" "65.1323"
[53,] "Turkish_D" "65.205"
[54,] "Hungarians" "65.4899"
[55,] "Lebanese" "65.7043"
[56,] "Syrians" "66.5019"
[57,] "Jordanians" "66.8934"
[58,] "Palestinian" "67.395"
[59,] "Druze" "67.5498"
[60,] "Turks" "67.9666"
[61,] "Egyptans" "68.4834"
[62,] "Norwegian_D" "68.7287"
[63,] "Moroccans" "69.3242"
[64,] "Samaritians" "71.2424"
[65,] "Swedish_D" "71.5508"
[66,] "Uzbekistan_Jews" "71.7075"
[67,] "Iraq_Jews" "71.8236"
[68,] "Assyrian_D" "72.1288"
[69,] "Armenian_D" "72.1616"
[70,] "Azerbaijan_Jews" "72.4082"
[71,] "Turkmens_Y" "73.6353"
[72,] "Armenians_15_Y" "73.6393"
[73,] "Georgia_Jews" "73.6641"
[74,] "Bedouin" "73.814"
[75,] "Kurd_D" "74.056"
[76,] "Iranians" "74.0793"
[77,] "Armenians" "74.1024"
[78,] "Kurds_Y" "74.1332"
[79,] "Iranian_Jews" "74.1455"
[80,] "Iranian_D" "74.3062"
[81,] "Nogais_Y" "74.4791"
[82,] "Yemenese" "75.2693"

Sikeliot
02-28-2013, 05:12 PM
Their closest non-Italian matches:

Sicily: Ashkenazi and Sephardi (not Greek!)
Tuscans: Greeks
North Italians: Balearic islanders (Spain)
Sardinians: Andalusians

and Sicilians tend toward the eastern Med and Levant, Tuscans intermediate, and north Italians and Sardinians toward the western Med.

Gaita
02-28-2013, 05:52 PM
^don't show this to some other über-Italians around here, mostly in another forum, they won't like it! ;)

Sikeliot
02-28-2013, 06:27 PM
Well, they need to accept the truth!

Cihan
02-18-2018, 06:00 PM
How about Italian (O)?