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Martin Timothy
08-18-2009, 07:19 AM
A class of object called a BL Lacerta object has no redshift, and remains a pinpoint of light on even the deepest fields, is thought to be a tunnel shot of the energy beam from the active nucleus of a quasar.

http://www.cv.nrao.edu/%7Eabridle/images/3c175ci.gif

Note: The knots in the energy beams emanating from the nucleus of 3c175 have been timed at some 225% the speed of light, were an observer to be looking directly into the jets, he or she would have found a BL Lacerta object!

Image of 3c175 courtesy of www.cv.nrao.edu/~abridle/3c66bdigss.htm (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/%7Eabridle/3c66bdigss.htm)


A sequence of VLBI (Very Long Baseline Interfereometry) observations of the radio jet near the core of the quasar 3C 279, shows an apparently superluminal motion of 25 light years in 7 years.

http://www.cv.nrao.edu/course/astr534/images/3C279.jpg

The bright component at the left is taken to be the fixed radio core, the bright spot at the right appears to have moved 25 light years on the plane of the sky between 1991 and 1998.

Image and text courtesy of www.cv.nrao.edu/course/astr534/ExtraGalactic.html (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/course/astr534/ExtraGalactic.html)

Svipdag
11-10-2009, 03:49 AM
Unless some other explanation can be found [and I'm sure than one is being sought frantically] for these velocities, the entire structure of modern physics and relativity will come crashing down.

The constant velocity of light is one of the fundamental physical constants and, if the velocity of matter could exceed this velocity, all sorts of weird paradoxes are to be expected.

Wölfin
11-10-2009, 04:01 AM
I do not appreciate people fucking around and dividing by zero, watch everything burn.

lei.talk
11-10-2009, 10:17 AM
...the entire structure of modern physics and relativity will come crashing down.

The constant velocity of light is one of the fundamental physical constants and, if the velocity of matter could exceed this velocity, all sorts of weird paradoxes are to be expected.is it the speed of light
or was the acceleration to that speed
at which einstein's formulae produced bizarre results?

if the phenomena described in the article
begin at the claimed speed
is there a problem? perhaps, at deceleration
(as they approach the speed of light
from the other direction)?