Classify Béla Imrédy

[Szegedist]

http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/bibl/mil/ww2/who/pics/imredy.jpg

http://m.cdn.blog.hu/ma/mandiner/image/0811/v%C3%A9rzivataros/38imr%C3%A9dy.jpg

http://imgc.artprintimages.com/images/art-print/bela-imredy-looking-very-nervous-while-on-trial-for-his-life_i-G-60-6026-YJYB100Z.jpg

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/38/3803/FTLIF00Z/posters/margaret-bourke-white-portrait-of-hungary-s-prime-minister-bela-imredy-in-his-office.jpg

[berzerk]

dinaric armenoid

[Szegedist]

Does he look Jewish? There is theory that he is of partial Jewish ancestry.

[Not a Cop]

Is he a Nazi? He has the typical defandant face, which nazis had on Nurnberg

[Szegedist]

Is he a Nazi? He has the typical defandant face, which nazis had on Nurnberg


Not Nazi per se, but Hungarian nationalist politician from WW2 and interwar era, and so called "war criminal".

[Szegedist]

Anyone else? Where could he pass?

[Géza]

Dinarid+CM. His partial jewish ancestry is a disputed legend. Side by side this faceshape use to be consider "jewish" in nowadays Hungary. His family's original name was Henirich. But it was a Swabian family, not jewish. I don't know what is the true. But I could imagine he had some jewish blood.

He would pass as French or (North) Italian.



http://www.huszadikszazad.hu/img/912/31021_imredy.jpg

http://www.huszadikszazad.hu/img/1170/39835_imredy_bela.jpg

[Szegedist]

Part Jewish or not part jewish, I would rather have him as Minister of Economy back than Matolcsy :laugh:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyoZJquCpQE

His Jewishness was used for political purposes, by more moderate enemies if I am not mistaken.

[Géza]

Part Jewish or not part jewish, I would rather have him as Minister of Economy back than Matolcsy :laugh:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyoZJquCpQE

His Jewishness was used for political purposes, by more moderate enemies if I am not mistaken.


Yes, Horthy himself use this, because Imrédy was against Horthy's son István as Vice-Governor. But it is very disputed story with many version. I don't know what is the truth.


By the way Matolcsy György had an economist uncle too, Matolcsy Mátyás, the member of the Arrow Cross Party.

http://suttogo.mozgalom.org/gallery/thumbnail.php?pic_id=1075

[Szegedist]

Yes, Horthy himself use this, because Imrédy was against Horthy's son István as Vice-Governor. But it is very disputed story with many version. I don't know what is the truth.


By the way Matolcsy György had an economist uncle too, Matolcsy Mátyás, the member of the Arrow Cross Party.

http://suttogo.mozgalom.org/gallery/thumbnail.php?pic_id=1075

I have about Matolcsy's uncle. In fact he supposedly had several family members in the Arrow Cross. But I do not know whether this is confirmed truth or only speculation. There was some debate whether the dates were correct.

But I am not sure if it is just placebo,but there is some resemblance between that picture you posted and Matolcsy.

[Cern]

Predominantly Dinarid.
The "jew" not a phenotype.

Him known jewish person in hungary. Looks alpine.

http://i48.tinypic.com/103sak0.jpg

[Szegedist]

I know there is no "Jewish phenotype", but there is a distinct Jewish look, you know what I mean.

[leisitox]

Badass Dinaric/Noric, just look extreme, could pass as jewish imo but he has the desfiant and serious face that is legendary lol

[Géza]

Predominantly Dinarid.
The "jew" not a phenotype.

Jew was originally a phenotype as East-Mediterranean. In our region lot of traits use to be consider as "jewish" what have been originated from the Middle-East and seem "foreign" among average Hungarian people. It have embarrassing part because some non-jewish Hungarian has Mediterranean or Armenid features by Khazar or Jassic people or other ways, however among the full population this traits (curly black hair, full thick lips, hooked curved nose, big nose, unibrow, female moustache, ivory-white skin without rosy-tone, strong black androgenic hair) are "jewish" at least "Balkanic". In the other hand the nowadays younger population cannot see this traits (they are colour- and "featureblinds", rather the older ones use to offer remarks on these traits.


Presser Gábor Hungarian artist with jewish ancestry is a good example on Hungarian stereotyps about jewish-look:

http://www.gitar.abbcenter.com/weboldal/gitar/cikkek/p_pici.jpg