Monarchy to return to Austria?

[Szegedist]

What is the position of the average Austrian regarding this? Say Karl von Habsburg tried to claim the throne.

[Pontios]

I'm not Austrian but I will support Austria becoming a monarchy.

[Baluarte]

I'm not Austrian but I will support Austria becoming a monarchy.

Same here

[Hurrem sultana]

No i am against revival of our occupators,they destroyed a lot for bosniaks

[Austo]

I would like that.

[Szegedist]

Are there any groups in Austria trying to achieve this?

[Corvus]

Yes and I would like to become the new emperor

[Austo]

Are there any groups in Austria trying to achieve this?

I dont think so.
At least i never heard of something like that.

[Szegedist]

No i am against revival of our occupators,they destroyed a lot for bosniaks

This is an issue, when Karl von Habsburg holds titles like "Prince Imperial and Archduke of Austria, Prince Royal of Hungary and Bohemia".

Plus I think it is still illegal in Austria.

[Otto Prohaska]

Are there any groups in Austria trying to achieve this?


I dont think so.
At least i never heard of something like that.

Schwarz-Gelbe Allianz

http://sga.monarchisten.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-Yellow_Alliance

[Otto Prohaska]

Plus I think it is still illegal in Austria.

It is. The nobility are not even allowed by law to use their full surnames. Inside Austria's borders there is no "Karl von Habsburg", he is simply "Karl Habsburg-Lothringen".

[Flintlocke]

If they come back all hell and fury like they were than it's fine by me, if they return all lilly livered pussies like today's royal families, then what's the use anyway?

[Aunt Hilda]

what's the point? monarchies are only good for gossip and trash talk.

[Szegedist]

what's the point monarchies are only good for gossip and trash talk.

Yes, that is what European history is, Gossip and Trash talk...

[Aunt Hilda]

Yes, that is what European history is, Gossip and Trash talk...

modern monarchies, sorry

[Loki]

modern monarchies, sorry

True. Even if the Habsburg monarchy comes back, they will just be puppets of an elected government (constitutional monarchy) like the UK, Denmark, Sweden etc. Get paid tax money to live in palaces and look pretty.

[Aunt Hilda]

True. Even if the Habsburg monarchy comes back, they will just be puppets of an elected government (constitutional monarchy) like the UK, Denmark, Sweden etc. Get paid tax money to live in palaces and look pretty.

don't know about Denmark or sweden , but the UK ones get so much money because they own a shitload of land, and buildings(which they rent out to the government)

[Otto Prohaska]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k12teOokSqM

[Pontios]

This will never happen in thousands of years.

[Szegedist]

Thousand years is a very long time. Think of how much has changed between 1000 to 2000

[Methmatician]

No i am against revival of our occupators,they destroyed a lot for bosniaks

Actually, they created (modern) Bosniaks :D So technically they didn't destroy anything for Bosniaks, just 'Turks'.

[derLowe]

Schwarz-Gelbe Allianz

http://sga.monarchisten.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-Yellow_Alliance

The black yellow alliance is very odd.


After more than 800 years of rule of the House of Habsburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Habsburg), Austria dissolved its monarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy) after World War I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I) and introduced a republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic).
The Black-Yellow Alliance calls for the reintroduction of hereditary monarchy in Central Europe and advocates a union of Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria), Hungary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary), Croatia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia), the Czech Republic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic), Slovenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenia), and Slovakia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovakia), united under a common emperor.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-Yellow_Alliance#cite_note-1)
The president of the party currently is tourism school professor Helga Vereno.

[derLowe]

If they come back all hell and fury like they were than it's fine by me, if they return all lilly livered pussies like today's royal families, then what's the use anyway?

I don't know how that would benefit Europe if they return? Will they handle the current problems of Europe better then the current form of governance? Then again perhaps they will get things done easier then democratic government who is bound by popular opinion.

I suppose if they returned weak they might as well have stay in the past.

[derLowe]

I must admit that the though of a Kaiser raising hell and getting things done in Europe is appealing to me but I got to ask my self is it at a cost of a different future that will have a better political system that the current one or the Monarchy.

In the spirit of this thread here is the old Empire anthem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWHCKrAjlC8

[derLowe]

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http://www.thelocal.de/articleImages/41329.jpg Should Germany bring back the royal family? Published: 14 Mar 12 14:42 CET | Print version (http://www.thelocal.de/article.php?ID=20859&print=true)



Germany got rid of its last Kaiser nearly a century ago, but the country remains fascinated by royals. One of the Kaiser’s descendants says royalty would help the country – but should Germany reinstate the monarchy? Have your say.



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The Kaiser’s descendants still live aristocratic lives even though the royal family was abolished in 1918 after defeat in World War I. And last summer, the wedding of Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia attracted not only a good showing of European royal guests but also the attention of the German public.

They are still excited by the royal families of nearby countries, and positively gorged themselves on last year’s wedding of British Prince William, which was broadcast live on four national television channels

A possibly increasing acceptance and even popularity of Germany’s home grown monarchy is no doubt linked with the young, educated and affable Prince Georg. His rare public appearances, fresh-faced good looks and reticence would certainly offer a contrast to the grey-haired politicians representing the country.

Germany's presidential post has hardly been covered in glory recently, having been held by two politicians, one of whom resigned arguably too early, the other too late. The debacle over Christian Wulff’s resignation prompted one of the Kaiser’s great-great grandsons to argue this week that a monarchy would be good for the country.

But would a restored monarchy – presumably along British or Swedish-type constitutional lines – be a good thing for Germany? Have your say below.

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[Otto Prohaska]

The black yellow alliance is very odd.

In what way?

[Hurrem sultana]

Actually, they created (modern) Bosniaks :D So technically they didn't destroy anything for Bosniaks, just 'Turks'.

okupator je okupator

[derLowe]

In what way?

They want to restore hereditary monarchy to central European countries but Croatia dose not really have a monarchy left? I mean sure we have some parts of the nobility left as we can see on this site http://plemstvo.hr/ but who would be king of Croatia?

I am unfamiliar with the state of the Slovenia monarchy so I will ask a few of the Slovenes to contribute.

[Žołnir]

That would be interesting. Being neibourgh with monarchy. Well what would be they striving for? I bet something like Otto von Habsburg did. Which means pro-EU, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Paneuropean_Union

[Žołnir]

They want to restore hereditary monarchy to central European countries but Croatia dose not really have a monarchy left? I mean sure we have some parts of the nobility left as we can see on this site http://plemstvo.hr/ but who would be king of Croatia?

I am unfamiliar with the state of the Slovenia monarchy so I will ask a few of the Slovenes to contribute.

If we count current Croatia as full succesor of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Croatia-Slavonia then i would say Habsburgs would be first in line to become kings ofc. at least from heridetary point of view. As for Slovenia if we link current state with Carniola (which is dubious since much of current SLO was also Styria, Gorizia, etc.) then they can become our dukes. xD However i sincerly don't think monarchic ideology would have much support among ppl these days altho in media i read many Slovenes want us to become part of Austria. That is much more probable than monarchy. LuLz

[Otto Prohaska]

They want to restore hereditary monarchy to central European countries but Croatia dose not really have a monarchy left? I mean sure we have some parts of the nobility left as we can see on this site http://plemstvo.hr/ but who would be king of Croatia?

I am unfamiliar with the state of the Slovenia monarchy so I will ask a few of the Slovenes to contribute.

They want one monarch for all of those states.

You even quoted them saying so:


The Black-Yellow Alliance calls for the reintroduction of hereditary monarchy in Central Europe and advocates a union of Austria, Hungary, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Slovenia, and Slovakia, united under a common emperor.

Žołnir correctly points out their goal for accession to the throne of a Croatian state:


If we count current Croatia as full succesor of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Croatia-Slavonia then i would say Habsburgs would be first in line to become kings ofc. at least from heridetary point of view.

[Otto Prohaska]

That would be interesting. Being neibourgh with monarchy. Well what would be they striving for? I bet something like Otto von Habsburg did. Which means pro-EU, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Paneuropean_Union

Probably, yes, vis-à-vis Habsburg's "On Monarchy in the Atomic Age" and "The Social Order of Tomorrow: State and Society in the Atomic Age".

[derLowe]

They want one monarch for all of those states.

You even quoted them saying so:



Žołnir correctly points out their goal for accession to the throne of a Croatian state:

Well I am either a twit or such a genius that I answer my own questions. :D

[Szegedist]

This is how the proposed Black-Yellow monarchy would look
http://oi48.tinypic.com/23madld.jpg

Population: 40,835,000

[derLowe]

If we count current Croatia as full succesor of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Croatia-Slavonia then i would say Habsburgs would be first in line to become kings ofc. at least from heridetary point of view. As for Slovenia if we link current state with Carniola (which is dubious since much of current SLO was also Styria, Gorizia, etc.) then they can become our dukes. xD However i sincerly don't think monarchic ideology would have much support among ppl these days altho in media i read many Slovenes want us to become part of Austria. That is much more probable than monarchy. LuLz

That would be interesting, Croats would be closer to central Europe at least. Lol. On a serious note, I am not sure what the Slovenian people would gain with a unification, except the loss of national Identity and Sports teams.

[Žołnir]

Well from tourist prespective and PR for Austria constitutional monarchy would fuel in the money i guess but if i were into that i would expect a monarch to be more active in diplomacy, etc. than lets say British monarchs. The monarchs most logical title from traditionalist point of view would be Archeduke of Austria. And from Slovene minority prespective i would expect them to re-create old Carinthian enthronement ceremonial which was ended after Ernest the Iron. xD Ok thats dreaming i know. :P I am not expert on Austrian politics but i have a gut feeling not many Austrians would support monarchy.

[Szegedist]

That would be interesting, Croats would be closer to central Europe at least. Lol. On a serious note, I am not sure what the Slovenian people would gain with a unification, except the loss of national Identity and Sports teams.

I dont think Slovenes would lose their national identity or sports teams. If I understand correctly, the proposition is a United Kingdom type. So Slovenia would be like Wales or Scotland, who still have their own sports teams, identity, autonomy, etc, but still retain their language.

[derLowe]

This is how the proposed Black-Yellow monarchy would look


Population: 40,835,000

If this came to pass it would represent a shift of power, the Black-Yellow monarchy would be the 6th most populous country in the EU.

[Szegedist]

But such a region would be heaven on earth.
Alps, Carpathians, Dinaric Alps, Adriatic coastline, plains, what more do you want :laugh:

[Žołnir]

That would be interesting, Croats would be closer to central Europe at least. Lol. On a serious note, I am not sure what the Slovenian people would gain with a unification, except the loss of national Identity and Sports teams.

Imo it won't happen however, at least i doubt it. Many ppl are saying this in the context of serious political problems we have atm and the fact Austria is fairing well economically while we have huge issues in this departement. From the serious point of view if it would happen i am sure there would probably be consesus on certain things like sports teams like Scotland has it's own football team for example. However as i say i doubt in that to happen + we worked far to much on creation of our own state and Slovenes must learn to be good political nation once and for all. :D For now we are still learning, ofc. Besides for most part SLO and AUT are firiendly nations but i definetly see option of having more joint political dealings.

[Austo]

Imo it won't happen however, at least i doubt it. Many ppl are saying this in the context of serious political problems we have atm and the fact Austria is fairing well economically while we have huge issues in this departement. From the serious point of view if it would happen i am sure there would probably be consesus on certain things like sports teams like Scotland has it's own football team for example. However as i say i doubt in that to happen + we worked far to much on creation of our own state and Slovenes must learn to be good political nation once and for all. :D For now we are still learning, ofc. Besides for most part SLO and AUT are firiendly nations but i definetly see option of having more joint political dealings.

We wouldnt have to do it like UK. We could just make 1 football team for the whole monarchy, then we would probably be one of the best teams in the world.

[Szegedist]

We wouldnt have to do it like UK. We could just make 1 football team for the whole monarchy, then we would probably be one of the best teams in the world.

The team would be Czechs+Croats and maybe Slovaks :laugh:

Anyway, sports teams are quite a detail...

[derLowe]

I dont think Slovenes would lose their national identity or sports teams. If I understand correctly, the proposition is a United Kingdom type. So Slovenia would be like Wales or Scotland, who still have their own sports teams, identity, autonomy, etc, but still retain their language.

That could work.

[Žołnir]

I dont think Slovenes would lose their national identity or sports teams. If I understand correctly, the proposition is a United Kingdom type. So Slovenia would be like Wales or Scotland, who still have their own sports teams, identity, autonomy, etc, but still retain their language.

Yea i agree. It would be like A-H where Carniolan landtag was dominated by Slovenes. However i dunno what would be purpose of neo-Austro-Hungary? What you have in mind?

Btw imo from economic point of view A-H still thrives. We all know who is one of the leading investors into our regions. xD

[Szegedist]

I personally think this:
1) regionalism is the way forward. The EU will collapse, and such regional projects will become the future I think. North European economic union, Central European economic union, etc

2) I do not think that the average person in Slovakia, Czech Rep, Slovenia would be bothered that much, if their life standards improve they will be happy. Hungary and Croatia is a bit different.


3) It will probably get destroyed by nationalism, most likely from Hungary... :laugh:

[Szegedist]

By the way, this was the plan before WW1

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Greater_austria.png

[Žołnir]

We wouldnt have to do it like UK. We could just make 1 football team for the whole monarchy, then we would probably be one of the best teams in the world.

Yes it would be quite strong. :D But problem is most ppl would simply equate it with German Austria. xD



I personally think this:
1) regionalism is the way forward. The EU will collapse, and such regional projects will become the future I think. North European economic union, Central European economic union, etc

2) I do not think that the average person in Slovakia, Czech Rep, Slovenia would be bothered that much, if their life standards improve they will be happy. Hungary and Croatia is a bit different.


3) It will probably get destroyed by nationalism, most likely from Hungary... :laugh:


Imo Slovaks are quite patriotic i am not sure bout them. Czech's are however more "flexible" they even have monarch party. Nowdays its not so strong but initially it was relatively strong.

[Sisak]

Croatia joined in Yugoslavia because didn't like Austria-Hungary. You called us "the garbage of the nation".

[Szegedist]

Croatia joined in Yugoslavia because didn't like Austria-Hungary. You called us "the garbage of the nation".

Croatia joined Yugoslavia because outside powers decided it to, but there were internal pushes too, such as pan-Slavism

[Szegedist]

Imo Slovaks are quite patriotic i am not sure bout them. Czech's are however more "flexible" they even have monarch party. Nowdays its not so strong but initially it was relatively strong.

Slovak nationalism revolves mostly around the beauty of their women and their ice hockey team :D I know them quite well because I lived most of my life among them. I dont think there would be too much opposition to this, if the positives outweigh the negatives. These nations I think would be flexible. Hungary is different, for example in 5 days time we have one of the biggest national celebrations, the beginning of the 1848 freedom fight, so such a scenario will be unacceptable to most.


I think Austria+Czech Republic+Slovenia would probably be more likely..

[Sisak]

We feel that we are different then Hungary and Austria.

[Rastko]

Croatia joined in Yugoslavia because didn't like Austria-Hungary. You called us "the garbage of the nation".

Not true.Regular folks liked Austria-Hungary way more.

[Szegedist]

From what I understand, Czech Republic, Austria, Slovenia, and Slovakia, and their nationalists are mainly interested in stopping mass immigration, corruption and similar problems, and then live peacefully, relax and enjoy good neighboring relations...

Hungarians have other ideas and plans, so I do not think we would be a good addition to this "union", and I dont think this can be changed. And never Habsburgs again.

Croats also fought a war in their independence which did not happen that long ago, so I dont think they are likely.

So, while this is an interesting idea to play with, I do not think it will happen. And if it does, it will most likely be just Slovenia and Austria lol


However I do not rule out some kind of "Central European Economic Zone" or an expansion to Visegrád Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegr%C3%A1d_Group

[Žołnir]

So, while this is an interesting idea to play with, I do not think it will happen. And if it does, it will most likely be just Slovenia and Austria lol


However I do not rule out some kind of "Central European Economic Zone" or an expansion to Visegrád Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegr%C3%A1d_Group

Imo there wouldn't be sufficient support among our countries for neo-AH. On otherhand Visegrad type alliance could work.

[arcticwolf]

Yeah that's what Europe needs rich welfare recepients. Go for it, and while you at it bring serfdom back as well and throw liberum veto in for good measure!

You subjects are so last century! :laugh:

[Szegedist]

Well, my country was better off under Monarchy than todays demokracy....

[derLowe]

Not true.Regular folks liked Austria-Hungary way more.

Yep, that was the situation in Istria.

[Stears]

We feel that we are different then Hungary and Austria.

After the WW1:

The people's self determination idea of president Wilson did not happened in Kingdom of Hungary, because: The new successor states protested against the helding of democratic referendums (universal suffrge secret ballots) about the disputed areas and borders. (perhabs the leader elite of the successor states did not trust in their own ethnic groups???)

[Corvus]

From what I understand, Czech Republic, Austria, Slovenia, and Slovakia, and their nationalists are mainly interested in stopping mass immigration, corruption and similar problems, and then live peacefully, relax and enjoy good neighboring relations...

Hungarians have other ideas and plans, so I do not think we would be a good addition to this "union", and I dont think this can be changed. And never Habsburgs again.

Croats also fought a war in their independence which did not happen that long ago, so I dont think they are likely.

So, while this is an interesting idea to play with, I do not think it will happen. And if it does, it will most likely be just Slovenia and Austria lol


However I do not rule out some kind of "Central European Economic Zone" or an expansion to Visegrád Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegr%C3%A1d_Group

You depict it as the relationship between Slovenia and Austria would be flawless.
In fact the Carinthians despite their predominantly Slavic ancestry only have a love/hate relationship with Slovenia.
Most deny their Slavic roots.

The Austrian/Hungarian relationship is on much more solid ground, otherwise a new "Carantania" would be more likely than the
revitalization of the monarchy.

[Stears]

Hungary has never been integral part of Austrian Empire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-hungary

The Habsburg monarch ruled as Emperor of Austria[8] over the western and northern half of the country that was the Austrian Empire (Cisleithania or "Lands represented in the Imperial Council")[9] and as King of Hungary[8] over the Kingdom of Hungary (Transleithania or "Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen").[9] Each enjoyed considerable sovereignty, with only a few joint affairs (principally foreign relations and defence).[10]

Certain regions, such as Galicia within Cisleithania and Croatia within Hungary enjoyed autonomous status, each with its own unique governmental structures. (See: Galician autonomy and Croatian-Hungarian Agreement.)

The division was so marked between Austria and Hungary that there was no common citizenship: a person was either an Austrian or a Hungarian citizen, and no one was allowed to hold dual citizenships.[11][12][clarification needed] The difference in citizenship also meant that, there were always separate Austrian and Hungarian passports, never a common one.[13][14]

The Empire of Austria and Kingdom of Hungary have always maintained separate parliaments. (See: Imperial Council (Austria) and Diet of Hungary.) Legally, except for the Pragmatic Sanction of 1713, common laws have never existed in the Empire of Austria and Kingdom of Hungary. All laws, even the ones with identical content, such as the compromise of 1867, had to pass the parliaments of both Vienna and Budapest. They were published in the respective official media (in the Austrian part, it was called Reichsgesetzblatt and was issued in eight languages).

Despite the fact that Austria and Hungary shared a common currency, they were fiscally sovereign and independent entities.[15]

From 1527 (the creation of the monarchic personal union) to 1851, Kingdom of Hungary maintained own customs borders, which separated her from the other parts of the Habsburg-ruled territories.[16] Since 1867, the Austrian and Hungarian customs union agreement had to be renegotiate and stipulate in every ten years. The agreements were renewed and signed by Vienna and Budapest, because both country hoped mutual economic benefit by the customs union.




You depict it as the relationship between Slovenia and Austria would be flawless.
In fact the Carinthians despite their predominantly Slavic ancestry only have a love/hate relationship with Slovenia.
Most deny their Slavic roots.

The Austrian/Hungarian relationship is on much more solid ground, otherwise a new "Carantania" would be more likely than the
revitalization of the monarchy.

[Corvus]

Hungary has never been integral part of Austrian Empire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-hungary

The Habsburg monarch ruled as Emperor of Austria[8] over the western and northern half of the country that was the Austrian Empire (Cisleithania or "Lands represented in the Imperial Council")[9] and as King of Hungary[8] over the Kingdom of Hungary (Transleithania or "Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen").[9] Each enjoyed considerable sovereignty, with only a few joint affairs (principally foreign relations and defence).[10]

Certain regions, such as Galicia within Cisleithania and Croatia within Hungary enjoyed autonomous status, each with its own unique governmental structures. (See: Galician autonomy and Croatian-Hungarian Agreement.)

The division was so marked between Austria and Hungary that there was no common citizenship: a person was either an Austrian or a Hungarian citizen, and no one was allowed to hold dual citizenships.[11][12][clarification needed] The difference in citizenship also meant that, there were always separate Austrian and Hungarian passports, never a common one.[13][14]

The Empire of Austria and Kingdom of Hungary have always maintained separate parliaments. (See: Imperial Council (Austria) and Diet of Hungary.) Legally, except for the Pragmatic Sanction of 1713, common laws have never existed in the Empire of Austria and Kingdom of Hungary. All laws, even the ones with identical content, such as the compromise of 1867, had to pass the parliaments of both Vienna and Budapest. They were published in the respective official media (in the Austrian part, it was called Reichsgesetzblatt and was issued in eight languages).

Despite the fact that Austria and Hungary shared a common currency, they were fiscally sovereign and independent entities.[15]

From 1527 (the creation of the monarchic personal union) to 1851, Kingdom of Hungary maintained own customs borders, which separated her from the other parts of the Habsburg-ruled territories.[16] Since 1867, the Austrian and Hungarian customs union agreement had to be renegotiate and stipulate in every ten years. The agreements were renewed and signed by Vienna and Budapest, because both country hoped mutual economic benefit by the customs union.

I never claimed it has been part of the empire. It was a dual monarchy after the compromise 1867, but I talk about the current relationship.
Ask a random Austrian to which nation he has more affinity. Hungary, Czech Rep. or Slovenia.
Hungary will be the clear winner.

[Szegedist]

Pál Teleki

He foresaw clearly the complete defeat of Nazi Germany, and the European chaos that would result from the war. He believed that no future was conceivable for any of the minor nations in Eastern and Central Europe if they tried to continue to live their isolated national lives. He asked his friends in America to help them establish a federal system, to federate. This alone could secure for them the two major assets of national life: first, political and military security, and, second, economic prosperity. Hungary, he emphasized, stood ready to join in such collaboration, provided it was firmly based on the complete equality of all the members states.


Hungarian politicians are future tellers ;)
Lajos Kossuth
Kossuth blamed Deák for giving up the nation's right of true independence, and asserted that the conditions he had accepted went against the interests of the state's very existence. In this letter his vision predicted that Hungary, having bound its fate to that of the Austrian German nation and the Habsburgs, would go down with them. He adumbrated a subsequent devastating European-scale war in the Continent, which will be fueled and induced by extremist nationalism, where Hungary will be on the side of a "dying empire". "I see in the Compromise the death of our nation," he wrote



Kossuth wrote a one-volume autobiography, published in English in 1880 as Memoirs of My Exile. It mainly concerns his activities between 1859 and 1861 including his meetings with Napoleon III, his dealings with the Italian statesman Cavour and his correspondence with the Balkan royal courts about his plans for a "Danubian federation" (A plan for the federalization of Austria-Hungary).

[Stears]

It is significantly, roughly 40% lesser than the original A-H Empire.

[Anglojew]

I like Monarchies. I think we're better off with them.

[Szegedist]

It is significantly, roughly 40% lesser than the original A-H Empire.

What do you mean? Lesser in what respect?

[LouisFerdinand]

Well from tourist prespective and PR for Austria constitutional monarchy would fuel in the money i guess but if i were into that i would expect a monarch to be more active in diplomacy, etc. than lets say British monarchs. The monarchs most logical title from traditionalist point of view would be Archeduke of Austria. And from Slovene minority prespective i would expect them to re-create old Carinthian enthronement ceremonial which was ended after Ernest the Iron. xD Ok thats dreaming i know. :P I am not expert on Austrian politics but i have a gut feeling not many Austrians would support monarchy.

If Austria would become a constitutional monarchy, is it necessary that a new constitution be written?

[Sekarotuinen]

No, Otto renounced all claims to the throne and monarchist sentiment is not that high.