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Sisak
03-10-2013, 08:17 PM
In Vis you can visit the place from which 1944. Tito said the historical sentence: "Tuđe nećemo - svoje ne damo".
On the island there is also Tito's cave where Josip Broz Tito lived during one period of the Second World War.The island was covered with imitation of stones and stone houses that enemies would not see the military base from the air.

Tito's 1944 cave on island Vis


After the failure of German offensive on Drvar (Bosnia and Herzegovina) with the goal of capturing Yugoslav partisans leader Josip Broz Tito, Vis island served as a new headquarters to the marshal.

At dawn of June 7th, 1944, Tito arrived at Komiza port and than to the nearest escort located in the hamlet of Borovik, where there were two natural caves. The higher one was arranged for Tito. Its natural extension to form lobby was used as a dining room and meeting rooms. In a small recess of this expansion there was arranged a space for his dog Tiger. The cave continues to enlarge into two separated cells - in one was placed desk and chair on which there was a German inductor phone, and in the other cell Tito's bed. The surroundings of the cave were also regulated, both for safety reasons and to improve conditions for the stay. Marshal at the end of August continuously lived and worked in the cave "despite bad experience in Drvar he was still prone to the caves" (Maclean, British commander who helped Tito to reach Vis).

This site attracts many foreign tourists, who don't miss the chance to stand inside the caves.

Cijeli Vis uzduž je i poprijeko probušen mrežama podzemnih prolaza i prostorija, čija je nekadašnja namjena bila čuvati Titov život. U slučaju napada NATO snaga ili zemalja Varšavskog pakta, ili u slučaju nuklearnog rata, Vis je bio pripremljen kao mjesto na koje će vojska skloniti Tita i vojni vrh i braniti ih do zadnje kaplje krvi.
Zbog toga je Vis za vrijeme Jugoslavije bio izoliran otok, kojeg stranci nisu smjeli posjećivati. Turizma ni za naše ljude nije bilo, jer je na otoku bilo više vojnika nego stanovnika. Tek se od 1992., kada je JNA napustila Vis, otok počinje otvarati posjetu turista i osvaja njihova srca.

Kako to da je Tito izabrao baš Vis za svoje tajno uporište?

Vis je jedini dio nekadašnje Jugoslavije koji nikad nije osvojila njemačka vojska. Tada je na njemu bila smještena saveznička vojna zračna luka. Tito se sklonio na Vis u lipnju 1944. nakon njemačkog desanta na Drvar i do zauzimanja Beograda u listopadu 1944. otok je funkcionirao kao središte partizanskih vlasti i savezničkih vojnih misija, pa je bilo logično da nakon završetka rata ostane tajno sklonište.

Nitko zapravo ne zna koliko su dugački podzemni kompleksi, jer je JNA sa sobom odnijela i svu dokumentaciju. Uzima se da je riječ o 37 vojnih objekata, uključujući i podzemnu vojnu bolnicu i tunel za zaklon ratnih brodova.
Uklesane u unutrašnjosti kamenog brda nalaze se prostorije za ratne brodove, ljudstvo, te razna teška i laka naoružanja. Između svih tunela i prostorija su brojna protuprovalna vrata koja i danas uredno funkcioniraju. Zanimljiv je ulaz za rakete, koji je viši od deset metara.
Bio je nevidljiv iz zraka i mora, jer je prekriven zaštitnom mrežom na koju je nalijepljena imitacija kamena od stiropora, a slično su i izlazi iz tunela kamuflirani kao stare kamene kućice kako bi zavarale neprijatelja. Položaji za topove vire iz kamenih stijena.
Glavni tunel dugačak je petstotinjak metara, a izlazi na drugu stranu brda. U pokrajnjim prostorijama nalaze se spremišta za rakete koja su i danas pokrivena pločicama.

Pločice su bile bitne zbog kondenziranja vlage i lakšeg održavanja budući da je samo pogonsko gorivo bilo iznimno otrovno. Unutra su spavaonice od stotinjak kvadratnih metara, prostor priručnih agregata, zapovjedno mjesto i bolničke prostorije.

Sve je to uklesano u kamenu duboko u brdu, a posada je imala nužne izlaze na njegovu vrhu. Izlazi su kamuflirani kao stare kamene kućice da bi se zavaralo neprijatelja.
U samoj bitnici još stoje tri dalekometna topa koja je JNA onesposobila pri svom povlačenju. Radi se o talijanskim topovima genovskog poduzeća Ansaldo iz 1941. godine.
Svi položaji za topove koji vire iz kamenih stijena visoko nad morskom liticom međusobno su povezani tunelima i prostorijama za boravak dvjestotinjak ljudi. U svim tunelima temperatura je ista ljeti i zimi.

U svim hodnicima i prostorijama i dan danas se mogu pronaći ostaci bivše vojske, od namještaja, dijelova uniformi, opreme, do sanduka, no većina toga je ukradena. O samoj veličini objekata govori činjenica da je oko njih 1989. godine, kada je stranim turistima dopušten dolazak na Vis, postavljeno 80.000 betonskih stupova koji su međusobno povezani bodljikavom žicom. O kvaliteti objakata govori činjenica da, kada ih je vidio tadašnji predsjednik Iraka Sadam Husein, tražio je da mu poduzeća takve naprave u njegovoj zemlji.


Također na otoku postoje brojni drugi potkopi, podzemna skloništa i bunkeri, a jedno od impresivnijih je sklonište za ratne brodove i podmornice u uvali Smokova u blizini samog grada Visa. U brdo je usječen cijeli kompleks, a prostor za ratne brodove seže u dubinu do tristo metara. Iz tog potkopa uskim se tunelima može doći do vojarni na vrhu brda.

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Guapo
03-11-2013, 01:41 AM
Tito would be ashamed of his own kin, the Croats, for destroying Yugoslavia if he was alive today.

Stipe Mesic: "ja sam srušio Jugoslaviju"

Sisak
03-11-2013, 11:45 AM
Tito would be ashamed of his own kin, the Croats, for destroying Yugoslavia if he was alive today.

Stipe Mesic: "ja sam srušio Jugoslaviju"

I believe -yes.

panzertango
03-12-2013, 12:04 PM
Like we could care less for that commie scum or what he would think if he was alive.

Sisak
03-12-2013, 10:52 PM
U svakom slucjau je atraktivno za turizam

Sisak
03-21-2013, 06:24 PM
Statues from Hellenic period

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derLowe
03-21-2013, 08:35 PM
U svakom slucjau je atraktivno za turizam

Indeed, it looks like a lovely place.

Sisak
03-22-2013, 10:31 AM
More information in english:

"Marshal Tito arrives with the British battle ship Blackmore to Komiža and immediately continues his trip to the cave on Mount Hum which is untill today still called Tito's cave ...
Beside the Tito's cave, on this Vis Special excursion you will visit the place from which 1944. Tito said the historical sentence: "Tuđe nećemo - svoje ne damo" ("We want nothing of others – ours we wont give!"),
the house of the British embassy and locations where your still able to see big partizan-comunist transparents, deleted after the collapse of Yugolavija. In the village Plisko poje we'll visit the location of the former runway of the airport from the 2nd World War, used for purposes of U.S. bombers B-52, Liberators and the British Halifax's and Spitfire Squadron of BAF.

The excursion includes a visit of the allies commandos memorial place and many details about the time when Marshal Tito had led the National Liberation struggle of the battlefields of whole Yugoslavia from the undefeated island Vis, about 15 000 soldiers on the island, the Dalmatian people exile through Vis to El Shatt (Afrika), 20th of January 1944. and 150 partizans on one square meter of the island etc.

It will become clear to you why Marshal Tito decided that afer the war Vis shoud become the "Forbidden island".

An additional option is a continuation of the tour to the village house where Tito slept and held his meetings. During the meal made by recipes from domestic gastronomy, folowed by the island's wine, you'll hear some more anecdotes from the time when Marshal Tito and the Commissioners stayed on the island of Vis, known as the "Undefeated fort of the Adriatic".

Sisak
04-08-2013, 12:37 PM
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The waters around Vis are famous for its offshore islands Biševo, Sv. Andrija (St Andrew), Jabuka (Apple) and Palagruža.
The special attraction is Biševo with a unique phenomenon of the Blue Cave, which has been visited by thousands of tourists each year.
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Sisak
04-08-2013, 06:43 PM
Visit of British Second World War veterans to the island

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/croatia/8529443/Croatian-island-of-Vis-remembers-World-War-Two-role.html

Sisak
07-01-2013, 07:19 PM
Tito would be ashamed of his own kin, the Croats, for destroying Yugoslavia if he was alive today.

Stipe Mesic: "ja sam srušio Jugoslaviju"

Because Croats declared independence does not negate the fact that you made a genocide against Muslims and Croats, and now in the Republic of Serbia 2 in croatian and muslim houses Serbs living there illegaly.