Welschtiroler?

[Žołnir]

So Trentino is traditionaly called Welschtirol by Austrians. I figure term Italian is new in German tounge likewise in Slovene tounge? Here we called them Lahi and Italian lands Laška. Anyways nvm that so Welsch is old term for Romance folk of Italy or at least Romance Tyroleans right?

[Libertas]

So Trentino is traditionaly called Welschtirol by Austrians. I figure term Italian is new in German tounge likewise in Slovene tounge? Here we called them Lahi and Italian lands Laška. Anyways nvm that so Welsch is old term for Romance folk of Italy or at least Romance Tyroleans right?

"Welsch" is a term related to "Welsh" in the English language and "Walloon" in Belgium.

These related terms come from an old Germanic expression for a "foreigner, stranger".

[Corvus]

No I have nerver heard of this phrase before to be honest. South Tyroleans are simply called Südtiroler

[Žołnir]

"Welsch" is a term related to "Welsh" in the English language and "Walloon" in Belgium.

These related terms come from an old Germanic expression for a "foreigner, stranger".

Yes true i know that but problem is i am not sure if this term is still used by modern Germans for Italians or at least Romance South Tyroleans. So far Corvus dosen't know. Maybe Austo can know this since he is Tyrolean. :D



No I have nerver heard of this phrase before to be honest. South Tyroleans are simply called Südtiroler

Interesting. So this might be archaic word lost in time.

[Austo]

Yes true i know that but problem is i am not sure if this term is still used by modern Germans for Italians or at least Romance South Tyroleans. So far Corvus dosen't know. Maybe Austo can know this since he is Tyrolean. :D



In Tirol we call people from South Tyrol now Südtiroler, how Covrus already mentioned.
But i already heard about this expression sometime. I think it was used generations ago.

[Žołnir]

In Tirol we call people from South Tyrol now Südtiroler, how Covrus already mentioned.
But i already heard about this expression sometime. I think it was used generations ago.

Thx for info. So you call Italian & Ladin Tyroleans from the so called Trentino/Welschtirol; Südtiroler as well?

[Austo]

Thx for info. So you call Italian & Ladin Tyroleans from the so called Trentino/Welschtirol; Südtiroler as well?

Yes :)

[curiousman]

http://mitglied.multimania.de/tirol_01/land/tkarte_h.jpg

Old-fashioned word but sometimes still used

[Žołnir]

Old-fashioned word but sometimes still used

Yes for Trentino definetly but i wonder if some outback German speaking Tyroleans still call their Italian & Ladin speaking Tyrolean brothers Welscher, Welsche? Btw on German Wiki explenation is like this;



Welsche oder Walsche ist vermutlich ursprünglich die germanische Bezeichnung für Römer und (romanisierte) Kelten (vgl. englisch Welsh für walisisch). In der deutschen Sprache werden heute unter Welschen als Exonym jeweils die am nächsten wohnenden romanischen Völker bezeichnet, und Varianten dieser Bezeichnung sind in ganz Europa zu finden. Der Ausdruck Welschland wurde früher unter anderem für Italien und Frankreich verwendet, heute hauptsächlich in der Schweiz für die Romandie (auch Welschschweiz). Der entsprechende germanische Gegenbegriff für im Osten siedelnde Nachbarn war Wenden (u. ä.).

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