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evon
03-18-2013, 03:50 PM
It seems we might have a confirmed Q1a3a in Norway, he has a Norwegian name and has known ancestry going back to about 1800, i am waiting for more info on the matter, the reason why its so odd is not that he is Q1a3, which is common in Norway, but that he has the extra a, which indicates South American ancestry last i checked, so we might be dealing with a person whom has ancestry going back to Danish colonies in the Caribbean or something along those lines, i will post more when i get more info...

Azalea
03-18-2013, 03:53 PM
Sounds interesting. Reminds me of that story of that (Irish?) woman on 23andme with a Native American mtDNA.

Gospodine
03-18-2013, 04:04 PM
I remember Pallantides mentioned a presence of Hg Q somewhere in Norway, forget where.

evon
03-18-2013, 04:05 PM
Iknow, i have a Icelandic cousin with mtDNA L, she has a Caribbean great great grandmother, she also have a few African segments on Ancestry composition, hence why i though about the Danish colonial era with regards to this Q guy..i am awaiting a e-mail adr for him now so i can ask further on his ancestry..

evon
03-18-2013, 04:06 PM
I remember Pallantides mentioned a presence of Hg Q somewhere in Norway, forget where.

We have a good number of Q1a3 and Q1a3* carriers, especially in Western Norway, but the extra a mutation is not native to Norway...

evon
03-18-2013, 04:14 PM
Here is a screen shot of my own Q cousins, as you see they are not Q1a3a, but belong to a Scandinavian sub-clade that is separate from the American one:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2455/screenshotfrom201303181.jpg

Graham
03-18-2013, 04:15 PM
Any chance it could have came from Siberia way?

evon
03-18-2013, 04:18 PM
Any chance it could have came from Siberia way?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q-M3#Asia


Q-M3 is present in some Siberian populations in Asia. It is unclear whether these are remnants of the founding lineage or evidence of back migrations from Beringia to East Asia.[4]

I guess it could be, but it would be the first confirmed find in Norway, i am hoping he can answer this by looking for American admixture in his Population Finder, to bad he is not on 23andme, it would have been much easier..

evon
03-18-2013, 04:20 PM
Will mail him now, also he has the same mtDNA as Partizan on here if i am not mistaken, no he belongs to H2a3 and not 5:


Y-DNA Q1a3a Shorthand Q-L53
mtDNA H2a5

Kazimiera
03-23-2013, 11:12 PM
This will be quite interesting!

evon
03-24-2013, 03:31 AM
It will, if the guy replies my mail :P

Pallantides
03-24-2013, 04:14 AM
I remember Pallantides mentioned a presence of Hg Q somewhere in Norway, forget where.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-Q.gif
I have a couple of 23andMe cousins who belong to y-DNA haplogroup Q, six who are Q1a3*, one Q1a3 and another one who is Q1a3a*

All of them are of European ancestry, expect for the Q1a3a* one who is a Native American.