Classify MMA/K1-Fighter Alistair Overeem

[Methusalem]

1,96 m
119 kg

http://www.abload.de/img/alistair_overeem_headt7yax.png
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[Methusalem]

bump

[Moghrob]

they managed to combine gorilla and homo sapiens genes

[Lemon Kush]

Something primitive. Paleo-Negroid would be my guess.

[Methusalem]

Something primitive. Paleo-Negroid would be my guess.

He is mixed with Dutch.

[Lemon Kush]

He is mixed with Dutch.

Well CM is dominant in him. He's European component is probably some CM type as well probably Faelid, but the Negroid genes dominant as always.

[Hevo]

He is mixed with Dutch.

True, he is half Dutch half Jamaican.

[Saruman]

Sudanid with foremost Cromagnid and then Atlanto-Nordid and Paleo-Negrid influences. He's not that archaic, and he has certain favorable (dominant mostly) traits.

[1stLightHorse]

He's half Dutch, his mother is pure white dutch, descended from King William III.
Anyway, his father is full Jamaican negro.
At 2:27 he says his genetic size comes from his dutch side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkg5Sx-o1m8

[dralos]

he looks mostly northafrican,but just more pumped up version

[1stLightHorse]

Any gigantic dutch women on this forum btw? PM for marriage.

[Methusalem]

Any gigantic dutch women on this forum btw? PM for marriage.

LOL

Anyway I tink Overeem is on steroids.

http://borilacki-klub.com/wp-content/uploads/Overeem_Evolution_borilacki-klubcom.jpg

[Zmey Gorynych]

Sudanid with foremost Cromagnid and then Atlanto-Nordid and Paleo-Negrid influences. He's not that archaic, and he has certain favorable (dominant mostly) traits.
I can see CM, but Atlanto-Nordid !? Where from did you come up with that !?


Any gigantic dutch women on this forum btw? PM for marriage.
Not much point in a gigantic dutch woman if she gives birth to something like Alistair Overeem, what a waste of genes :picard2: ... and at first glance she looks completely normal.

[Saruman]

LOL

Anyway I tink Overeem is on steroids.


Atlanto-Nordid influence is lost mostly today but clearly more visible on older pictures.

[Methusalem]

Atlanto-Nordid influence is lost mostly today but clearly more visible on older pictures.

His mother shows zero Atlanto-Nordid influence and his dad is of full Negro ancestry.

[Saruman]

I can see CM, but Atlanto-Nordid !? Where from did you come up with that !?

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See younger pictures, forehead shape and head shape to a degree, slightly in facial features (neoteny foremost).

[1stLightHorse]

LOL

Anyway I tink Overeem is on steroids.



Lol, yes you're right, he got caught for a T/E ratio which was out of whack. His last fight against Antonio bigfoot silva actually got him smashed, and he had dangerously low levels of test because he went off the drugs not gradually enough i guess.

[Saruman]

His mother shows zero Atlanto-Nordid influence and his dad is of full Negro ancestry.

Mother is mostly Dalofaelid/Cromagnid.

[Methusalem]

Not much point in a gigantic dutch woman if she gives birth to something like Alistair Overeem, what a waste of genes :picard2: ... and at first glance she looks completely normal.

No waste of genes. He has achieved more in his early years than you will achieve in your entire life. He is a professional fighter. What are you? A nerd lurking on an anthroboard forum. LOL so pathetic. No one will ever think about you after your death while Overeem will go down in history as a well-known, respected professional athlete.:thumb001:

[Zmey Gorynych]

See younger pictures, forehead shape and head shape to a degree, slightly in facial features (neoteny foremost).
The only "gracile" feature is the absence of a browridge but that can be attributed to sudanid which is his dominant sub-race. He has a typical small, low negroid skull. Which facial features strike you as being gracile !?

[Methusalem]

The only "gracile" feature is the absence of a browridge but that can be attributed to sudanid which is his dominant sub-race. He has a typical small, low negroid skull. Which facial features strike you as being gracile !?

Negroids are highskulled and not lowskulled. His headshape (receding forehead + lowskulled) shows clear archaic cromagnoid influence.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iBAEdlB5QhE/TQ9i2a0cjxI/AAAAAAAAEgw/uNlmAu8oJ4Q/s1600/300laprem49.jpg

[Zmey Gorynych]

Negroids are highskulled and not lowskulled. His headshape (receding forehead + lowskulled) shows clear archaic cromagnoid influence.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iBAEdlB5QhE/TQ9i2a0cjxI/AAAAAAAAEgw/uNlmAu8oJ4Q/s1600/300laprem49.jpg
When it comes to skull height estimation profile pictures are always best. Incidentally there's an europid guy to compare to. Do you still think Mensah has a high skull !? Looks pretty low to me.

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2008_The_Incredible_Hulk/008TIH_Peter_Mensah_001.jpg

[Methusalem]

His forehead seems to be a bit receding but overall he is still highskulled. Also the Nordid example is in front of him which gives a skewed sample.

Compare to other Negroids:

http://www.biketour4goodhope.de/library/pics/diary/468/img_0365.jpg
http://www.africarte.it/foto-storiche/Zande-tipi.JPG
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/62454_473916940844_6865676_n.jpg
http://www.africa-union.org/Graphics/Images/Alpha%20Oumar%20Konare.gif
http://celebcenter.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/shaq3.jpg

[Zmey Gorynych]

His forehead seems to be a bit receding but overall he is still highskulled. Also the Nordid example is in front of him which gives a skewed sample.

Compare to other Negroids:
Indeed it is an unfair comparison because europids have higher skulls (not that it's a performance), also a receding forehead means further endocranial volume reduction.
Do you want to compete with me in cherry picking !? I'm not saying all negroids, without exception, have low skulls but that is the rule whether you like it or not.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Africa/Sudanid.jpg
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jason+Pierre+Paul+Super+Bowl+XLVI+Media+Day+aN_vKq 5WWaTl.jpg
http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/4/32/04/@/8330-djibril-cisse-637x0-1.jpg
http://blog.newsok.com/gossip/files/2009/02/kobe-bryant.jpg

[Methusalem]

You posted some palea-negrid eamples. Sudanids and Nilotids are very highskulled and have a typical boneheadshape. The only highskulled Europids are Borrebys, Pontids, some Taurid forms and Tronder-Nordids while Iranids, Arabids, Indids, Gracile Meds, Skando-Nordids are very lowskulled. Therefore on average you are going to find more highskulled Negroids than highskulled Europids.
Also a receding forehead doesn't mean further endocranial volume reduction. If this was be the case, many archaic Cromgnoids would have a smaller endocranial volume since receding foreheads are significant traits of archaic Cromagnoids. That's a baseless claim.

This highskulled bonehead is a typical Sudanid trait and is a distinctive feature of Negroid admixture.
Jason Kidd for example who is part Black has this typical highskulled boneheadshape:

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2427580838/03iqon303j76je4qqn0c.jpeg

or

Vin Diesel

http://www.moviepilot.de/files/images/0487/0002/Vin_Diesel.jpg

or

The Rock

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cVy_s_g7e1E/UHJ9OY4vsBI/AAAAAAAAHts/_JbIMLn_UYE/s640/TheRock.jpg

[Zmey Gorynych]

You posted some palea-negrid eamples. Sudanids and Nilotids are very highskulled and have a typical boneheadshape. The only highskulled Europids are Borrebys, Pontids, some Taurid forms and Tronder-Nordids while Iranids, Arabids, Indids, Gracile Meds, Skando-Nordids are very lowskulled. Therefore on average you are going to find more highskulled Negroids than highskulled Europids.
Also a receding forehead doesn't mean further endocranial volume reduction. If this was be the case, many archaic Cromgnoids would have a smaller endocranial volume since receding foreheads are significant traits of archaic Cromagnoids. That's a baseless claim.

This highskulled bonehead is a typical Sudanid trait and is a distinctive feature of Negroid admixture.
Jason Kidd for example who is part Black has this typical highskulled boneheadshape:
Aren't paleo-negrids part o the negroid race !? You basically named all the european sub-races from robust mediterranids (atlanto-pontids and nordids) to cromagnoids and taurids (I would also add alpinoids and baltoids to this list) while mentioning only 2 negroid sub-races. Since when Indids and CO are europeans (even so they too have bigger heads)!? Skando-nordids are low-skulled, REALLY !? The idea of a greater average negroid skull height is simply ridiculous.
If you have two skulls of identical dimensions (length, breadth and height) but only one is receding wouldn't that mean endocranial volume reduction and obviously smaller brain !?
Your examples are obviously mixed more than that predominantly not negroid, presuming that they inherited their skull height from the african side is hazardous at best.

[Vasconcelos]

Maghar Orc, clearly came from Nagrand, in Outlands (previously Draenor).

[Saruman]

The only "gracile" feature is the absence of a browridge but that can be attributed to sudanid which is his dominant sub-race. He has a typical small, low negroid skull. Which facial features strike you as being gracile !?

Forehead looks more angular. Sudanid foreheads are usually more rounded, ofc one might attribute this to CM, but his head shape is not CM. Facial features, just generally. I initially ommited any Atlantoid but changed it after seeing "thin Overeem" pics, of course it can only be slight. CM is lot stronger influence, and I think Palaenegrid is only slight.


Standard Sudanids do not have usually high heads, but Northern Sudanids can. Nilotids yes, they have often higher heads.

[ChocolateFace]

Ubereem!!!!

He probably is 60% Caucasian.

[derLowe]

His face reminds me of Mike Tyson.

[Linebacker]

Was just going to make a thread about him but checked to see if he's been done.

I classify him as one of the best ever.

[Methusalem]

Was just going to make a thread about him but checked to see if he's been done.

I classify him as one of the best ever.

Yep. He is very good. But to slow for K1.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Robust Congoid/Caucasoid with CM influence.

[Linebacker]

Yep. He is very good. But to slow for K1.

Too slow for K1,ok,thats why he whopped Badr Hari's ass so bad 4 people had to help him leave the building.

[Methusalem]

Too slow for K1,ok,thats why he whopped Badr Hari's ass so bad 4 people had to help him leave the building.

so what? Badr fucked him once too.

[Methusalem]

Too slow for K1,ok,thats why he whopped Badr Hari's ass so bad 4 people had to help him leave the building.

anyway looool you remember that fight with shogun how badly Overeem got fucked by him and could not even walk?

[Smeagol]

Sudanid-Cromagnoid, and also Palaenegrid influence.

[Cleitus]

Was just going to make a thread about him but checked to see if he's been done.

I classify him as one of the best ever.


http://youtu.be/5xZ2d3S7hrY

[Linebacker]

anyway looool you remember that fight with shogun how badly Overeem got fucked by him and could not even walk?

Yeah I remember other times he got whopped too.Whats your point.Every fighter loses sometime.Can you name another fighter that has held The K1 heavyweight title,the Dream heavyweight title and the Pride heavyweight title.

Thats right.None.And if he gets the UFC belt too,he will be the greatest of all time.

[Methusalem]

Yeah I remember other times he got whopped too.Whats your point.Every fighter loses sometime.Can you name another fighter that has held The K1 heavyweight title,the Dream heavyweight title and the Pride heavyweight title.

Thats right.None.And if he gets the UFC belt too,he will be the greatest of all time.

Who cares? My point was that he is too slow, too buffed for K1. Fight over fight Badr hari has shown to be the beast in K1.

[Linebacker]

Who cares? My point was that he is too slow, too buffed for K1. Fight over fight Badr hari has shown to be the beast in K1.

Ok man sorry but that was stupid.He got all those titles because he was too slow and buffed.Perfect logic.Totally makes sense.

Its obvious you don't have any knowledge about combat sports.

[Methusalem]

Ok man sorry but that was stupid.He got all those titles because he was too slow and buffed.Perfect logic.Totally makes sense.

Its obvious you don't have any knowledge about combat sports.

wtf? I was talking about k1 not about his mma career. winning one k1title after fighting some pussies like this old fuck peter aerts or the midget gokhan saki means nothing. and of course he is too slow like a fat michelin for k1....new generation of k1 fighters are not buffed but slim like badr hari or that one egyptian fighter...forgot his name. anyway why so mad dude?

[Croehveist]

Some native vibe.

[Linebacker]

wtf? I was talking about k1 not about his mma career. winning one k1title after fighting some pussies like this old fuck peter aerts or the midget gokhan saki means nothing. and of course he is too slow like a fat michelin for k1....new generation of k1 fighters are not buffed but slim like badr hari or that one egyptian fighter...forgot his name. anyway why so mad dude?

Im mad,because I am his fan,and because you talk on a matter you lack competence about.Badr Hari who beats people up in night clubs that you mention so much got his ass handed to him by Reem.

[Methusalem]

Im mad,because I am his fan,and because you talk on a matter you lack competence about.Badr Hari who beats people up in night clubs that you mention so much got his ass handed to him by Reem.

one fight only one fight and after that one fight badr hari fucked his ass up. K1 is not made for him he should keep doing mma and i wish him all the best. and who cares if badr beats people up in night clubs? not for nothing his nickname is 'badboy' and your huge idol is on steroids obviously.

[ChocolateFace]

Overeem bulked up so he could have an easier time protecting his glass chin with his huge arms. I am a semi fan of his and I hope he gets it together. Being too muscular is usually bad. The majority of successful fighters are long,lean and sturdy/muscular while not being bulky. I have many years of martial arts experience and Methusalem also trains so saying that he knows nothing is wrong since his opinion has meaning.