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Baluarte
04-02-2013, 04:55 PM
TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehman-Parast is visiting Yerevan in a bid to discuss bilateral ties and regional developments with Armenian officials.

Mehman-Parast, heading a high-ranking delegation, arrived in the Armenian capital city on Monday night for a four-day visit to the country.

Mehman-Parast's visit to Armenia comes after he paid a visit to Belarus. He is slated to discuss the latest regional and international developments with the Armenian officials, including his counterpart Tigran Balayan.

The Iranian diplomat is also slated to meet with Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian and give visits to some academic and press centers.

Mehman-Parast started his regional tour last Wednesday by paying a visit to Belarus in the first leg of his trips.

Earlier this year, Armenia's President Serzh Sargsian appreciated Tehran for its effective mutual cooperation with Yerevan, and underlined his country's enthusiasm for the further expansion of ties with Iran.

Sargsian appreciated Tehran for its effective bilateral cooperation with Yerevan during the past years.

He said that his country "attaches great importance to expansion of relations with Iran" despite efforts made by the US-led western states to reduce Tehran-Yerevan ties.

Addressing people in the Armenian city of Meghri, President Sargsian said "Armenia will continue efforts" to promote bilateral cooperation with Iran.

In recent years, Iran and its Northern neighbor Armenia have signed agreements on energy cooperation and agreed to cooperate in technology and research and to enhance ties in commerce and economy.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Sargsian pledged in December 2011 to further expand "high-level relations" between their nations and, in particular, give new impetus to the implementation of joint energy projects that have fallen behind schedule.

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Good cooperation. Closer ties between Armenia and Iran can create a lot of benefit for both countries.

Musso
04-02-2013, 05:08 PM
We are cooperating very well with Iran, especially in the energy sector. We have several energy projects with the Iranians. The Iranian-Azerbaijan tensions have led to much more cooperation between Armenia and Iran. Iranians and Armenians also have long historic ties and we have many linguistic/cultural ties as a result. However, we don't really cooperate with Iran in the military/strategic sphere because of Western pressure and the fact that our strategic/military ally is Russia + CSTO.

Xyresic
04-04-2013, 01:00 AM
Oh yes the great axis of Iran-Armenia. We might as well throw in North Korea, Burma, Syria and Belarus for good measure then it will truly be a great alliance of democracy and freedom.

Armenia has to cooperate with Iran because Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey don't like Armenia much because Armenia claims territory from all 3 of these countries. Armenia has territorial claims on 75% of its neighbours because Armenia isn't a very friendly country. They claim a "west armenia" from Turkey, "nargorno-Karabağ/Qarabağ" (Karabağ/Qarabağ is a Turkish name!!!) from Azerbaijan and a "javakh" from Georgia.

If only Armenia just quit its occupation of Azerbaijan and ceases to make territorial claims against 3/4th of its neighbours then its volume of trade and standards of living would rise substantially. It would be able to make lucrative money off being a transit country for Azeri and Iranian oil and gas. But it seems to want to choose the path of Isolation and making friends with Iran. They prefer Iran and Isolation to Integration into the Neighbourhood and Prosperity.

Armenia can't offer much to Iran. Its landlocked and there is no chance Azerbaijan, Georgia or Turkey would agree to any oil or gas pipeline through Armenia unless Armenia leaves occupied Azerbaijan and ceases with its territorial aims against Georgia and Turkey.

Lets hope Armenia doesn't get too close to Iran though, it would be a shame if Armenia violated the specifics of the US trade sanctions with Iran and had to forfeit their free money from the USAs 'Millennium Challenge' that gives 'less abled' countries free money if they implement the basics of governance.

Musso
04-04-2013, 01:12 AM
Oh yes the great axis of Iran-Armenia. We might as well throw in North Korea, Burma, Syria and Belarus for good measure then it will truly be a great alliance of democracy and freedom.

Armenia has to cooperate with Iran because Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey don't like Armenia much because Armenia claims territory from all 3 of these countries. Armenia has territorial claims on 75% of its neighbours because Armenia isn't a very friendly country. They claim a "west armenia" from Turkey, "nargorno-Karabağ/Qarabağ" (Karabağ/Qarabağ is a Turkish name!!!) from Azerbaijan and a "javakh" from Georgia.

If only Armenia just quit its occupation of Azerbaijan and ceases to make territorial claims against 3/4th of its neighbours then its volume of trade and standards of living would rise substantially. It would be able to make lucrative money off being a transit country for Azeri and Iranian oil and gas. But it seems to want to choose the path of Isolation and making friends with Iran. They prefer Iran and Isolation to Integration into the Neighbourhood and Prosperity.

Armenia can't offer much to Iran. Its landlocked and there is no chance Azerbaijan, Georgia or Turkey would agree to any oil or gas pipeline through Armenia unless Armenia leaves occupied Azerbaijan and ceases with its territorial aims against Georgia and Turkey.

Lets hope Armenia doesn't get too close to Iran though, it would be a shame if Armenia violated the specifics of the US trade sanctions with Iran and had to forfeit their free money from the USAs 'Millennium Challenge' that gives 'less abled' countries free money if they implement the basics of governance.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/199/896/2jfg08h.gif

Xyresic
04-04-2013, 07:10 PM
I didn't except an Ermeni to respond normally.

Ermenians don't want to engage with their neighbours.
Ermenians want to go down the route of expansionism.
Ermenians want to go down the route of isolation.
Ermenians want to go down the route of poverty.

I'm sure Armenia-Iran axis will work well for them :rolleyes:

Musso
04-05-2013, 03:59 AM
I didn't except an Ermeni to respond normally.

Ermenians don't want to engage with their neighbours.
Ermenians want to go down the route of expansionism.
Ermenians want to go down the route of isolation.
Ermenians want to go down the route of poverty.

I'm sure Armenia-Iran axis will work well for them :rolleyes:

There's only so much BS I can read daily.....

I'll respond to more mature posts. When I see BS. I don't bother.

Xyresic
04-05-2013, 06:32 PM
There's only so much BS I can read daily.....

I'll respond to more mature posts. When I see BS. I don't bother.Which part in particular was BS?

Musso
04-05-2013, 08:02 PM
Which part in particular was BS?

The second sentence for example....that's just the start of it.

You also make it sound like Georgia's border with Armenia is closed, which is BS, because most of our trade goes through Georgia. Even our trade with Turkey amounts to 200 million. Please come back when you are ready to post more maturely.

Xyresic
04-05-2013, 09:50 PM
The second sentence for example....that's just the start of it.

You also make it sound like Georgia's border with Armenia is closed, which is BS, because most of our trade goes through Georgia. Even our trade with Turkey amounts to 200 million. Please come back when you are ready to post more maturely.Armenias transportation costs are increased due to closed borders with Turkey. Georgia is not well connected. Turkey is Georgias top trade partner. Georgia and Russia have fallen out. Alot of Georgian stuff passes through Turkey. A flight to Georgia from the UK is quite expensive, quite often its actually cheaper to fly to Istanbul and then get a connecting flight from there onto Tblisi or Batumi.

I am aware the amount of trade between Turkey and Armenia is over $200 million, buts its not proper trade, its not Armenian and Turkish businessmen making long term lasting relationships. Trade could be much higher. Iran probably just wants to use Armenia to bypass sanctions.

What the hell will Armenia and Iran do with energy cooperation, unless it just means Armenia buys oil and gas off Iran.

Musso
04-06-2013, 03:10 AM
Armenias transportation costs are increased due to closed borders with Turkey. Georgia is not well connected. Turkey is Georgias top trade partner. Georgia and Russia have fallen out. Alot of Georgian stuff passes through Turkey. A flight to Georgia from the UK is quite expensive, quite often its actually cheaper to fly to Istanbul and then get a connecting flight from there onto Tblisi or Batumi.

I am aware the amount of trade between Turkey and Armenia is over $200 million, buts its not proper trade, its not Armenian and Turkish businessmen making long term lasting relationships. Trade could be much higher. Iran probably just wants to use Armenia to bypass sanctions.

What the hell will Armenia and Iran do with energy cooperation, unless it just means Armenia buys oil and gas off Iran.

That's not true. Turkish-Armenian businessmen hold forum to boost business relations, especially Turkish businessmen in the east. Yes the transportation cost is increased, but that doesn't stop trade from happening.

Armenia and Iran do energy cooperation. Why wouldn't they? But our biggest trading partners remain EU and Russia, and most of our trade goes through Georgia.

We even awarded Saakashvili a state medal after the 2008 Ossetian War, which pissed off Russia. So as you can see our relations with Georgia are rather lively.

Xyresic
04-08-2013, 02:55 AM
That's not true. Turkish-Armenian businessmen hold forum to boost business relations, especially Turkish businessmen in the east. Yes the transportation cost is increased, but that doesn't stop trade from happening.Increased costs makes trade more prohibitive. It doesn't stop the trade but it wont exactly encourage it either. It also means that Turkish products being sold in Armenia are more expensive for the end user (Armenian consumer). Increased transportation costs is a barrier of trade.

The Global Competitiveness report gave Turkey and Azerbaijan much higher rankings than Armenia. Armenia has a lot of barriers to trade.


Armenia and Iran do energy cooperation. Why wouldn't they? But our biggest trading partners remain EU and Russia, and most of our trade goes through Georgia.You mean Armenia buys oil and gas off Iran.

Its not as if Armenia-Iran cooperation in energy can involve distributing oil and gas to 3rd parties (except Georgia).

What can Armenia do with Iran in terms of energy distribution by themselves? Transport Iranian gas and oil to Europe and other markets via Armenian airplanes?

Turkey is Georgias largest trading partner. Azerbaijan is second. Georgia isn't well connected to the rest of the world. Georgian shipping has to pass through the Bosphorus unless they are only unloading in Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine or Russia. Flights between Tblisi and Istanbul are the most active flights to and from Tblisi airport. People flying to and from Georgia often fly to Istanbul and then fly onwards from there.


We even awarded Saakashvili a state medal after the 2008 Ossetian War, which pissed off Russia. So as you can see our relations with Georgia are rather lively.Considering Turkey and Azerbaijan are Georgias number one and two top trading partners. Considering Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan cooperate greatly in transportation with the Kars-Akhalkalaki-Tbilisi-Baku railway nearing completion and there is the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline already operational. Armenia is missing out on money making opportunities and transportation links with its neighbours. Georgia-Armenia and Georgia-Turkey/Azerbaijan relations aren't exactly in the same league as one another.

adsız
04-27-2013, 07:57 AM
our trade with Turkey amounts to 200 million.

What is the brand name of the products imported from ermenia ?

Xyresic
04-28-2013, 04:29 PM
What is the brand name of the products imported from ermenia ?The trade is most probably Turkish products in Armenia and not Armenian products in Turkey.

Look what I found:
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/1661/armeniaimportandexport.png
from: http://repatarmenia.org/eng/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/InvestmentMap2012.pdf

Even though Turkey doesn't have diplomatic relations and the border is closed with Armenia, Turkish imports make up 6% of the total imports in Armenia. Whereas Turkey doesn't appear in the Armenian export pie chart.

European mixer
04-28-2013, 04:34 PM
Armenia is a land that is just waiting to be gobbled up its very shameful.

Baluarte
04-29-2013, 07:42 PM
Armenia, Iran to sign Memorandum of Cooperation

At the invitation of Armenian Prosecutor General Aghvan Hovsepyan, a delegation led by Iranian Attorney General Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei will today arrive in Armenia for a three-day working visit, the press service of Armenian Prosecutor General’s Office reports.

The sides will discuss mutual legal assistance in fighting transnational crime, issues related to the protection of the rights and freedoms of individuals and legal entities.

Aghvan Hovsepyan and Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei will sign a Memorandum of Cooperation.