Bosniak neo nazis

[Hurrem sultana]

So i just found out we have bosniak neo nazis :D they want to preserve the white bosniak race,are against mixing,are very anti arab etc

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4595/28158505134366188722174.jpg


http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2116/73401750511372285745386.jpg

[Tomorr]

lol

[Lorik]

How do they view Albanians and other balkanites?

[Hurrem sultana]

lol

why lol? Hitler liked Handzar(which was bosniak SS)

[Hurrem sultana]

How do they view Albanians and other balkanites?

they are anti turkey,anti serbia,ant everyone

they do seem to like ataturk

[Baluarte]

Not really shocking to me.

I suppose they get their inspiration from these guys:

http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Handzarparade.jpg

All in all....it's not that bad they exist. Considering all the pro-Wahhabi funding that Saudi Arabia is doing in BiH, it's good to have something countering them.

Saudi Arabia + Qatar are really the worst thing the Islamic World has to offer.

[dado]

never heard of them...but probably some kids from diaspora...germany maybe :confused:

[Hurrem sultana]

yes Handzar are their heroes

they are very anti west,anti EU,they hate Turkey ,,the only turk they like is Ataturk :D

seriously these guys are crazy

[dado]

Not really shocking to me.

I suppose they get their inspiration from these guys:

http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Handzarparade.jpg

All in all....it's not that bad they exist. Considering all the pro-Wahhabi funding that Saudi Arabia is doing in BiH, it's good to have something countering them.

Saudi Arabia + Qatar are really the worst thing the Islamic World has to offer.

yeah...two of them are countering eachother on forum and third is moderating :rolleyes:

one could find more folowers of chetniks among bosniaks than nazis

[denz]

I m really wondering how this neo nazist movement will end. And how the history will be written next decades. Ethical cleanse or or sociocultural consequence happen.

[Hurrem sultana]

I m really wondering how this neo nazist movement will end. And how the history will be written next decades. Ethical cleanse or or sociocultural consequence happen.

well skinheds have been existing in Europe for a long time,they will never become a great power.stupid boys in their teenage years...after 5 years usually they get over it

[Lorik]

@dado are you one of them too?

[Baluarte]

I m really wondering how this neo nazist movement will end. And how the history will be written next decades.

Don't really see it working, National Socialism is a stale movement in most countries, only Greece is more or less rebuilding it (and with plenty of mistakes).

What I'd care for the most is a National Bosniak movement that may defend an "Islam of Europe" approach, or in other words, leading Bosniaks into cooperation with European culture, while retaining their religious denomination.
I'd wish the same for Albanians, but the UCKas are corrupt to the core and they will keep working for AtlantoZionism for at least the following decade.

[Wadaad]

They should have their necks slit ungreatful traitors...Much Arab blood was spilled protecting them against Serb aggression during the balkan civil war.

[Hurrem sultana]

They should have their necks slit ungreatful traitors...Much Arab blood was spilled protecting them against Serb aggression during the balkan civil war.

they are against radical islamism too

bosniaks never needed soldiers,we needed weapon

[Mortimer]

I find mongolian nazis funnier. Bosniaks are white and it is not surprising to me there is a white supremacist movement among them

[denz]

they are against radical islamism too

bosniaks never needed soldiers,we needed weapon

Bosnian just were unprepared and unexpected to such evident. But the past shows how to be ready for a war, that's why we like Kurds, they keep us fit for a certain world war ...

[adsız]

Meaningless, unless none of them show up in Srebrenica.

[Mraz]

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/qUM-fVyZBU4/hqdefault.jpg

http://www.federalna.ba/files/news_images/607_20120403125612_neprijatelji.jpg

looool what a joke.

[Mortimer]

They mention blacks as enemies of bosniak people when there are hardly 10 blacks in bosnia. They are dumb.

[Skerdilaid]

Don't really see it working, National Socialism is a stale movement in most countries, only Greece is more or less rebuilding it (and with plenty of mistakes).

What I'd care for the most is a National Bosniak movement that may defend an "Islam of Europe" approach, or in other words, leading Bosniaks into cooperation with European culture, while retaining their religious denomination.
I'd wish the same for Albanians, but the UCKas are corrupt to the core and they will keep working for AtlantoZionism for at least the following decade.


What do you know about UCK and Albanians? You think by reading two newspaper from the comfort of you living room will give you enough knowledge to be able to judge X or Y ethnicity.

Stay out of matters you can't comprehend and don't embarrass yourself.

[Philo]

lul that member Jusuf/Juka is a bosnian neo-nazi. LMAO.

[Amun]

I find it strange that Bosnia has such stupid people.
lots of arabs from Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and many others joined forces to protect Bosnia against Serbs, Croats and communists and some of them were given Bosnian nationaltiy for there role in Bosnian War in 1995.
i hope they do not really have impact on Bosnian people

[Cokolino]

@Luna, I think you found out the way I did, at the other place :D
Too bad the thread was removed, there were some really funny comments made :lol:
Ever since Zoomke left, the nutjobs are trying their luck...

Bosniak neo-nazis...:picard1: :picard2: :picard1:

[Hurrem sultana]

I find it strange that Bosnia has such stupid people.
lots of arabs from Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and many others joined forces to protect Bosnia against Serbs, Croats and communists and some of them were given Bosnian nationaltiy for there role in Bosnian War in 1995.
i hope they do not really have impact on Bosnian people

Why? every nation has its share of lunatics i think

but they support Palestine,Assad,,their biggest hero is the nazi mufti

but they hate saudi arabia and most other arab countries

[Hurrem sultana]

@Luna, I think you found out the way I did, at the other place :D
Too bad the thread was removed, there were some really funny comments made :lol:
Ever since Zoomke left, the nutjobs are trying their luck...

Bosniak neo-nazis...:picard1: :picard2: :picard1:

hahhahaah yeah i did :D

it made me laugh :D

[Amun]

Why? every nation has its share of lunatics i think

but they support Palestine,Assad,,their biggest hero is the nazi mufti

but they hate saudi arabia and most other arab countries

First as Egyptian let me clarify something each Arab country has its own culture , ethnicity and history that separates them from each other
yes we share the language but each country has its own accent that was driven from its original tongue so saying arabs as one unit is not quite accurate despite the fact we share some similarities due to geographical location (the same in Balkan i believe).
you said they hate the Arabs does that come from Ideological or ethnical factors.

[Hurrem sultana]

you said they hate the Arabs does that come from Ideological or ethnical factors.


well both i would say they are about "white pride" but at the same time they say saudia iz zionist and works together with jews and western world

while they like assad ,ahmedinejad ,and everyone that is not "mainstream" :D

[ariel]

First as Egyptian let me clarify something each Arab country has its own culture , ethnicity and history that separates them from each other
yes we share the language but each country has its own accent that was driven from its original tongue so saying arabs as one unit is quite accurate despite the fact we share some similarities due to geographical location (the same in Balkan i believe).
you said they hate the Arabs does that come from Ideological or ethnical factors.

egyptian arabic are very distinct arabic dialect ,mostly because his accent, i find this accent pretty funny...but still egyptian arabic sound better than other dialects .
btw egyptian arabic speaker able hardly understand syrian or lebanese dialect

[Amun]

well both i would say they are about "white pride" but at the same time they say saudia iz zionist and works together with jews and western world

while they like assad ,ahmedinejad ,and everyone that is not "mainstream" :D


they are true about this point Gulf people and their regimes are the biggest servants of americans and therefore they are the biggest servants to zionism. they encourged americans to establish their military bases in their land to end saddam regime because they considered it an threat to their everlasting monarchies.


egyptian arabic are very distinct arabic dialect ,mostly because his accent, i find this accent pretty funny...but still egyptian arabic sound better than other dialects .
btw egyptian arabic speaker able hardly understand syrian or lebanese dialect

it is true but we can understand their accents puls gulf people accents because their are lots of Egyptian immigrants in their countries due to economic reasons.

[archangel]

lol didnt know bosnians are white,they look same with serbs and croats hence off white

[o__o]

lol didnt know bosnians are white,they look same with serbs and croats hence off white

Interesting, where do you think whites start?

[American_Hispanist]

There are stupid people everywhere, as even in Mexico, there are Neo-Nazis.

[Hurrem sultana]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_lWm_cYMHomCUvE2UdK-mTcxtPVWfh1RdjO8Zrj38fno759lw

[Twistedmind]

Луно, па зар и ти у расисте?

[Arbërori]

I support the Bosnian nation & their Statehood, but neo-Nazis are just funny. :lol:

And should be arrested ofcourse.

[archangel]

well there are some small nosed,short,blond, weak built baltid looking(real slavs) bosnians just like serbs and croats but vast majority are native balkan people not slavs imho.

[Hurrem sultana]

Луно, па зар и ти у расисте?

ma jok :D

[Loki]

You going to join them Luna? ;)

[Hurrem sultana]

The neo-Nazi white nationalist organization Bosanski Pokret Nacionalnog Ponosa (Bosnian Movement of National Pride) was founded in Bosnia and Herzegovina in July 2009. Their model is the Waffen-SS Handschar Division, composed of Bosnian Muslim volunteers.[30] They proclaimed their main enemies to be "Jews, Gypsies, Serbian Chetniks, the Croatian separatists, Josip Broz Tito, Communists, homosexuals and blacks".[31] They mix an ideology of Bosnian nationalism, National Socialism and white nationalism. The group is led by a person nicknamed Sauberzwig, after the commander of the 13 SS Handschar. The group's strongest area of operations is in the Tuzla area of Bosnia.

[Loki]

They proclaimed their main enemies to be "Jews, Gypsies, Serbian Chetniks, the Croatian separatists, Josip Broz Tito, Communists, homosexuals and blacks".

Are there even blacks in Bosnia?

[Hurrem sultana]

Are there even blacks in Bosnia?

hardly

[Loki]

Why do they hate Tito?

[Hurrem sultana]

Why do they hate Tito?

he was a communist and they see it as one of their main enemy(communism)

[Mraz]

well there are some small nosed,short,blond, weak built baltid looking(real slavs) bosnians just like serbs and croats but vast majority are native balkan people not slavs imho.

So every Turk who doesn't look like a Mongol isn't a proper Turk right? :rolleyes:

[o__o]

well there are some small nosed,short,blond, weak built baltid looking(real slavs) bosnians just like serbs and croats but vast majority are native balkan people not slavs imho.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t76/Caleidah/1286304813842.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

well there are some small nosed,short,blond, weak built baltid looking(real slavs) bosnians just like serbs and croats but vast majority are native balkan people not slavs imho.



I am sure you have never been to Bosnia

[dralos]

the wahabists will deal with these nazis soon

[Onur]

lul that member Jusuf/Juka is a bosnian neo-nazi. LMAO.
I found even more funnier case in their website;

http://www.bosanski-nacionalisti.org


Someone named S. Turk(ovic) complaining about growing Turk(ish) influence in Bosnia. Someone should remind him that the Turkish influence has grown in him before the country :D

[Twistedmind]

I found even more funnier case in their website;

http://www.bosanski-nacionalisti.org


Someone named S. Turk(ovic) complaining about growing Turk(ish) influence in Bosnia. Someone should remind him that the Turkish influence has grown in him before the country :D

Somebody (lets not say whom) need to read article before commenting. Woman Šejla Turković (not him) was witnessing about murder of notorius war criminal and drug dealer Ramiz Delalić Ćelo. Mrs Turković, got surname after her husband, another criminal.

[Philo]

The neo-Nazi white nationalist organization Bosanski Pokret Nacionalnog Ponosa (Bosnian Movement of National Pride) was founded in Bosnia and Herzegovina in July 2009. Their model is the Waffen-SS Handschar Division, composed of Bosnian Muslim volunteers.[30] They proclaimed their main enemies to be "Jews, Gypsies, Serbian Chetniks, the Croatian separatists, Josip Broz Tito, Communists, homosexuals and blacks".[31] They mix an ideology of Bosnian nationalism, National Socialism and white nationalism. The group is led by a person nicknamed Sauberzwig, after the commander of the 13 SS Handschar. The group's strongest area of operations is in the Tuzla area of Bosnia.
It's funny that they mention Jews, who hardly live on the region, before the ones who actually live there like gypos serbs and croats. Oh well.

[Loki]

It's funny that they mention Jews, who hardly live on the region, before the ones who actually live there like gypos serbs and croats. Oh well.

Yeah and as I've mentioned probably no blacks either. They just hate them for the sake of it :p

[Szegedist]

Will they wear this?
http://www.cowanauctions.com/itemImages/yy2672.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

Will they wear this?
http://www.cowanauctions.com/itemImages/yy2672.jpg

yes some of them wear the green handzar fes on pictures :;D

[Loki]

yes some of them wear the green handzar fes on pictures :;D

You would look good in one ;)

[Hurrem sultana]

Nah doubt that :D

why do you like them? :P

[Arbërori]

You would look good in one ;)

She'd look good on my bed and in a Nazi uniform without a bra underneath. :laugh: :P

[Hurrem sultana]

I found even more funnier case in their website;

http://www.bosanski-nacionalisti.org


Someone named S. Turk(ovic) complaining about growing Turk(ish) influence in Bosnia. Someone should remind him that the Turkish influence has grown in him before the country :D


She has nothing to do with the site,they just copied news from other bosnian sites :D

most of them go under nick names

[Baluarte]

the wahabists will deal with these nazis soon

It's a possibility, Saudi Arabia has sent large amounts of money into Bosnia to destroy the old Ottoman mosques and build new square ones/Saudi style.
They are also very adamant in defending Shariah law and the typical Gulf backwardism.

[Hurrem sultana]

It's a possibility, Saudi Arabia has sent large amounts of money into Bosnia to destroy the old Ottoman mosques and build new square ones/Saudi style.
They are also very adamant in defending Shariah law and the typical Gulf backwardism.

Oh come on these guys are not serious they are average 17 years and most of them live outside Bosnia,and they are hardly something worth saudis attention :D

[Baluarte]

How do you feel about all the Salafist cell-building that it's been done in Bosnia for the last decade?
Doesn't it bother you that Sarajevo gives passports and hideouts to extremist terrorists from the Middle East?

[Hurrem sultana]

How do you feel about all the Salafist cell-building that it's been done in Bosnia for the last decade?
Doesn't it bother you that Sarajevo gives passports and hideouts to extremist terrorists from the Middle East?

Lol where did u get those news from

[Baluarte]

Wahhabism in Bosnia-Herzegovina - Part One

Author: Juan Carlos Antúnez
Uploaded: Tuesday, 16 September, 2008
First part of an interesting attempt at a comprehensive analysis of the phenomenon of Wahhabism in B-H, written in 2007 by a very unusual international functionary

Wahhabism in B-H is an alien, small, but according to some sources growing tendency within B-H. It is relatively successful in recruiting young ‘converts’ from within the B-H moderate Muslim tradition circles. Wahhabism identifies mainstream Bosnian Muslims as false Muslims and even as enemies. It has some potential to result in growing, and even violent confrontation with moderate Muslims and non-Muslims alike. This could have serious ramifications for B-H in its efforts to maintain a pluralistic society, as well as complicate the International War on terrorism, by providing an ever safer environment for transient terrorists. If the Wahhabi reportedly growth tendency is not effectively stopped and reversed by the indigenous Muslim structures, the challenge of Wahhabism in B-H will have serious implications for the rest of Europe.

For most International Community (IC) personnel, this is the first time in their careers that they have had to deal with any kind of Islamic issue. Part of the local media, often biased by nationalistic or/and political interests, have tried to present the problem of Wahhabism in B-H as a growing tendency that is a threat to safety and security not only in the country but also in the rest of Europe. These media have used a discourse very similar to that used at the beginning of the 90’s, changing the term ‘Islamic fundamentalism’ by ‘Wahhabism’. On the other hand, media close to the Bosniak establishment have tried to ‘hide’ any evidence of the Wahhabi presence in B-H, or at least to play down the importance of the phenomenon.

Most of the information gathered until now is based on the regurgitation of media or biased spread of rumours without further confirmation. A serious analysis must try to define who is a real follower of Wahhabism, in order to avoid misinterpretations. Only then can proper proposals be developed for stopping the ‘reported’ growing tendency, and reversing it.

This is a paper on the situation of Wahhabism in B-H, intended to represent original thinking about the real picture of the Islamic community in the country and not a ‘regurgitation of open-source wisdom’.

The purpose of this document is to disseminate it to any member of the International Community who has to deal with this issue. For most of them, it is the first time they have had to get in touch with Islam. It is very important to defeat prejudices and misunderstandings that present obstacles to their proper job performances.

This ‘handbook’ would contribute by increasing the level of the information obtained by the above-mentioned personnel, and also contribute to a better IC relationship with the local community. The book would also contribute to the ability of IC personnel to distinguish what is a real threat to safety and security in B-H.

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It's a really good paper, I only copied the summary, you can read the other parts here:

http://www.bosnia.org.uk/news/news_body.cfm?newsid=2468

[Arbërori]

Lol where did u get those news from

He reads too much conspiracy theories. Bosnia is as Wahabbi as Israel.

[Baluarte]

of course

bosnia.org.uk = Conspiracionist site

Fact of the matter is that my career forces to stay informed on what happens across the globe, with varying degrees of depth (I know more about East Europe than Central Asia for example). If you haven't heard of it, it doesn't mean I'm a conspiracionist, it just means you don't read.

[Arbërori]

I don't read trash.

[Baluarte]

I don't read trash.

True, you prefer to flirt online and talk about boobs. Your choice really, and nothing wrong with it.

[Vukodav]

I think Luna is proud on these nazi Bosniak kids, deep inside of her heart.

[Hurrem sultana]

I don't read trash.

:D

[Arbërori]

True, you prefer to flirt online and talk about boobs. Your choice really, and nothing wrong with it.

True. I'd use that, when I'd whipe off... Nevermind. :lol:

[Baluarte]

>.>.....the level of this forum sometimes....
Suit yourselves, I do recommend at least taking a look at that paper. I'm out of here

[dado]

a gdje ih ti to pratiš luna...sad sam gledao sajt,forum im nije aktivan

[dado]

>.>.....the level of this forum sometimes....
Suit yourselves, I do recommend at least taking a look at that paper. I'm out of here

dude...that's what u get when u discuss with a kid

[Mraz]

How do you feel about all the Salafist cell-building that it's been done in Bosnia for the last decade?
Doesn't it bother you that Sarajevo gives passports and hideouts to extremist terrorists from the Middle East?

This is BS, saying that the BiH government helps terrorism is a lie.

[Methmatician]

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2116/73401750511372285745386.jpg

'Sacuvaj svoju tradiciju i obraz'

You're 500 years late

http://www.nrcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/biden-laughing.gif

These guys can't even keep the tradition of our alphabet (sačuvaj) ;)

[Baluarte]

This is BS, saying that the BiH government helps terrorism is a lie.

Terrorists Use Bosnia as Base and Sanctuary

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-100701terror.story

LOS ANGELES TIMES

SUNDAY REPORT


U.S. sees possible threat from militants who came to
help Muslims fight Serbs, Croats in '90s, then became
citizens. Some have ties to Bin Laden.

By CRAIG PYESJOSH MEYER and WILLIAM C. REMPE

Times Staff Writers

October 7 2001

ZENICA, Bosnia--Herzegovina -- Hundreds of foreign
Islamic extremists who became Bosnian citizens after
battling Serbian and Croatian forces present a
potential terrorist threat to Europe and the United
States, according to a classified U.S. State
Department report and interviews with international
military and intelligence sources.

The extremists include hard-core terrorists, some with
ties to Osama bin Laden, protected by militant
elements of the former Sarajevo government.

Bosnia-Herzegovina is "a staging area and safe haven"
for terrorists, said one former senior State
Department official.

The secret report, prepared late last year for the
Clinton administration, warned of problem
passport-holders in Bosnia in numbers that "shocked
everyone," he said. The White House leaned on Bosnia
and its then-president, Alija Izetbegovic, to do
something about the matter, "but nothing happened,"
the former official said.

Although no evidence connects any Bosnian group to the
suicide hijacking attacks of Sept. 11 blamed on Bin
Laden, U.S. and European officials are increasingly
concerned about the scope and reach of Bin Laden
networks in the West and the proximity of Bosnia-based
terrorists to the heart of Europe.

A number of the extremists "would travel with impunity
and conduct, plan and stage terrorist acts with
impunity while hiding behind their Bosnian passports,"
the former official said.
In several instances, terrorists with links to Bosnia
have launched actions against Western targets:

* An Algerian with Bosnian citizenship, described by
one U.S. official as "a junior Osama bin Laden," tried
to help smuggle explosives in 1998 to an Egyptian
terrorist group plotting to destroy U.S. military
installations in Germany. The shipment included
military C-4 plastic explosives and blasting caps, the
former U.S. official said. The CIA intercepted the
shipment, foiling the attack.

* Another North African with Bosnian citizenship
belonged to a terrorist cell in Montreal that
conspired in the failed millennium plot to bomb Los
Angeles International Airport.

* One of Bin Laden top lieutenants--a Palestinian
linked to major terrorist plots in Jordan, France and
the United States--had operatives in Bosnia and was
issued a Bosnian passport, according to U.S.
officials.

After the foiled plot against American bases in
Germany, the U.S. suspended without public explanation
a military aid program to Bosnia in 1999 in an attempt
to force the deportation of the Algerian leader of the
group, Abdelkader Mokhtari, also known as Abu el
Maali.

Finally, after the U.S. went a step further and
threatened to stop all economic aid, Izetbegovic
agreed to deport El Maali. But the Algerian was back
in Bosnia within a year.

Two months ago, he was
reported to be moving in and out of the country
freely. He is now thought to be in Afghanistan with
the leadership of Bin Laden's Al Qaeda group,
according to a senior official for the NATO-led
peacekeeping force, SFOR, in Bosnia.

President Clinton's secretary of State, Madeleine
Albright, personally appealed to Izetbegovic to oust
suspected terrorists or rescind their Bosnian
passports.

The effort by top State Department aides continued
through the last days of the administration. "It
wasn't just one meeting, it was 10 to 12, with orders
directly from the White House," said a former State
Department official.

Izetbegovic declined the appeals, several sources
said, apparently out of loyalty to the fighters who
had come to his country's rescue. The president argued
that many had married Bosnian women, had taken up
farming and were legal citizens.

"The point we kept making to Izetbegovic was that if
the day comes we find out that these people are
connected to some terrible terrorist incident, that's
the day the entire U.S.-Bosnia relationship will
change from friends to adversaries," the former State
Department official said.

Senior U.S. and SFOR officials believe that some
hard-line members of Izetbegovic's political party
gave direct support, through their control of the
Foreign Ministry and local passport operations, to
foreign Islamic extremists with ties to Bin Laden.
Although Izetbegovic stepped down in October 2000,
many hard-liners remain in Bosnia's bureaucracy, and
they are suspected of operating their own rogue
intelligence service that protects Islamic extremists,
military and intelligence sources said.

Last week, Bosnia's new interior minister, citing
"trustworthy intelligence sources," said scores of Bin
Laden associates may be attempting to flee Afghanistan
ahead of anticipated U.S. military reprisals for the
Sept. 11 attacks, seeking refuge among militant
sympathizers in Bosnia.

The minister, Mohammed Besic,
vowed to intercept any who try to enter the country.
U.S. and SFOR officials acknowledge that the new
coalition government in Sarajevo has become much more
responsive to fighting terrorism. A senior State
Department official lauded Sarajevo this year for
"working with the international community" in trying
to clamp down on suspected terrorists.

Since Sept. 11, Bosnia has launched an audit of
passports and mounted a more intensive crackdown on
those naturalized citizens who are wanted by foreign
law enforcement agencies. After years of inaction,
several international fugitives have been arrested
this year and extradited.

Bosnia has a large Muslim population, most of whom do
not practice a strict form of Islam.

One senior State Department official cautioned that "a
lot of people's interests are served by hyping the
terrorism problem in the Balkans," referring to
anti-Muslim sentiment among other ethnic groups there.
But, he added, "that is not to say there are not bad
people who would exploit the weaknesses in the
government and the lax security and use [Bosnia] as a
place to hide."

To date, Western interests in the Balkans have not
been terrorist targets. However, a senior peacekeeping
official in Bosnia said local police report that
"there are plans to attack the Western interests here
in Bosnia after any future retaliatory strikes in
Afghanistan. We don't have anything to confirm it."
Bosnia has traditionally served as "an R&R [rest and
recreation] destination" for members of Bin Laden's
organization and other extremists, according to U.S.
officials and the peacekeeping force.

"They come to Bosnia to chill out, because so many
other places are too hot for them," said a former
State Department official active in counter-terrorism.
They also use Bosnian passports to travel worldwide
without drawing the kind of scrutiny that those who
hold Middle Eastern or North African documents might
attract, officials said. Bosnian passports are
particularly valuable for ease of travel to other
Muslim countries where no visa requirement is imposed
on Bosnians.

Under the Izetbegovic government, the immigration
system was so unregulated, that Bin Laden allies
"would get boxes of blank passports and just print
them up themselves," the former State Department
official said.

A military official said that "for the right amount of
money, you can get a Bosnian passport even though it's
the first time you've stepped foot into Bosnia."
Among those who Western intelligence sources say was
granted Bosnian citizenship and passports was Abu
Zubeida, one of Bin Laden's top lieutenants.

Zubeida,
a Palestinian from the Gaza Strip, was in charge of
contacts with other Islamic terrorist networks and
controlled admissions to terrorist training camps in
Afghanistan. He arranged training for unsuccessful
millennium bomb plots in Canada and Jordan and a
recently foiled suicide attack on the U.S. Embassy in
Paris, according to court records and investigative
reports.

Zubeida also asked LAX bomb plot figure Ahmed Ressam
to get blank Canadian passports that would allow other
terrorists to infiltrate the United States, according
to testimony from Ressam, who was convicted in the
bomb plot and is cooperating with investigators.
Another terrorist with Bosnian credentials is Karim
Said Atmani, a Moroccan who was Ressam's roommate in
Montreal and who was in the group that attempted to
bomb LAX, according to testimony. The Bosnian
government arrested him in April, and Atmani was
extradited to France, where he awaits sentencing on
terrorism charges.

Beginning in 1992, as many as 4,000 volunteers from
throughout North Africa, the Middle East and Europe
came to Bosnia to fight Serbian and Croatian
nationalists on behalf of fellow Muslims. They are
known as the moujahedeen. A military analyst called
them "pretty good fighters and certainly ruthless."
"I think the Muslims wouldn't have survived without
this" help, Richard Holbrooke, the United States'
former chief Balkans peace negotiator, said in a
recent interview. At the time, U.N. peacekeepers were
proving ineffective at protecting Bosnian civilians,
and an arms embargo diminished Bosnia's fighting
capabilities.

But Holbrooke called the arrival of the moujahedeen "a
pact with the devil" from which Bosnia still is
recovering.

The foreign moujahedeen units were disbanded and
required to leave the Balkans under the terms of the
1995 Dayton, Ohio, peace accord. But many
stayed--about 400, according to official Bosnian
estimates.

Although the State Department report suggested that
the number could be higher, a senior SFOR official
said allied military intelligence estimated that no
more than 200 foreign-born militants actually live in
Bosnia, of which closer to 30 represent a hard-core
group with direct links to terrorism.

"These are the bad guys--the ones you have to worry
about," the official said.

But he also said that "hundreds of other" Islamic
extremists with and without Bosnian passports "come in
and out" and that Bosnia remains a center for Al Qaeda
recruiting and logistics support.

A U.S. counter-terrorism official confirmed that
"several hundred" former moujahedeen remain in Bosnia.
"Are they a threat? Absolutely. Are we all over them?
Absolutely," he said.

The fighters were organized as an all-moujahedeen unit
called El Moujahed. It was headquartered in Zenica in
an abandoned hillside factory, a compound with a
hospital and prayer hall.
Bin Laden financed small convoys of recruits from the
Arab world through his businesses in Sudan, according
to Mideast intelligence reports. Other support and
recruits for El Moujahed came, at least in part,
through Islamic organizations in Milan, Italy, and
Istanbul, Turkey, that European investigators later
linked to trafficking in passports and weapons for
terrorists.

A series of national security and criminal
investigations across Europe have since identified the
El Moujahed unit in court filings as the "common
cradle" from which an international terrorist network
grew and ultimately stretched from the Middle East to
Canada.

Abu el Maali, its leader during the Bosnian war,
remains an enigmatic figure, charismatic and popular
within the moujahedeen but barely known outside. He
briefly appeared in a propaganda video on El Moujahed
during the war, but his face was digitally removed
before distribution.

French court documents say El Maali now is the leader
of terrorist cells in Bosnia, Pakistan and
Afghanistan.

Court testimony, confidential police records and
interviews with European intelligence officials show
how El Maali marshaled recruits from the West and
Muslim countries to assemble the infrastructure of
what would become a terrorist organization.

Two French converts to Islam, both in their mid-20s,
were among the early volunteers for El Maali's ranks
in the Bosnian war. Christophe Caze, a medical school
dropout, and Lionel Dumont joined El Moujahed to
provide humanitarian services. But once assigned to
the moujahedeen unit in Zenica, they immediately
"plunged into violence," an associate told French
police.

A French judicial official said their eventual passage
to terrorism was strongly influenced by El Maali, with
whom they became close. El Maali "exerted a lot of
influence on the fighters . . . which led them to
commit these violent actions under the cover of
Islam," the magistrate said.

The converts emerged as leaders, rendering impassioned
exhortations to younger volunteers to defend Islam "by
all means," according to court records. They also
began setting up a clandestine network in France,
creating multiple identities, encoding phone lists and
recruiting followers they could call into action
later. Court records say that Caze, working as a
medic, recruited future terrorists among the wounded
he treated.

At the war's end, U.S. officials focused on
state-sponsored terrorism and worried about getting
Iranian fighters back to Iran. Less clear were the
implications of loosely allied extremist groups and
individuals.

Looking back, peace negotiator Holbrooke blamed
imprecise and "sloppy intelligence" for failing to
distinguish which Muslim groups posed a threat to the
United States. It turned out that Iranian fighters
went home. Many of El Maali's trained warriors did
not.

In Bosnia, most of the violence stopped with the peace
accord in 1995. But in January 1996, it broke out
again--on the streets of northern France.
A puzzling crime wave swept the area around Roubaix, a
gritty, Muslim-majority town near the Belgian border.
Small groups of men began holding up stores and
drivers. They brandished machine guns and wore hoods
and carnival masks. Two people were killed.

On March 28, just before a Group of 7 summit of
leading industrial nations that would bring top
ministers to Lille, police discovered a stolen car
abandoned in front of the police station. It was
parked askew. And it contained a bomb packed into
three gas cylinders rigged to devastate everything
within 600 feet. It was disarmed.

The next night, a special tactical squad surrounded a
house at 59 Rue Heni Carette in Roubaix that had been
linked to the booby-trapped car. Police fired
thousands of rounds into the building. The house
erupted in flames due to munitions inside, police said
later. Four charred bodies were recovered.

Two men fled the barrage and inferno. At a police
roadblock just inside Belgium, another furious gun
battle erupted. One of the men was killed, and his
accomplice was wounded.

In the getaway car, police found rocket launchers,
automatic weapons, large amounts of ammunition and
grenades. They also recovered an electronic organizer
containing coded telephone contacts, nearly a dozen of
them in Bosnia. The dead ringleader was identified as
Christophe Caze, the young medic who went to fight in
Bosnia.

French authorities, confused about the motives for the
spasm of gang violence, considered it a new
phenomenon, calling it "gangster terrorism." Their
investigation uncovered what may have been the first
terrorism cell exported from Bosnia.

After an investigation of the surviving associate,
Caze's electronic organizer and other evidence
recovered by French police, the robbery gang was
identified as nine militants who attended a local
mosque. Most of them had undergone military training
at the El Moujahed compound in Bosnia.

The armed robberies were a radical form of
fund-raising by Caze and his associates to benefit
their "Muslim brothers in Algeria." Their high-powered
weapons were smuggled home from the Bosnian war.
Caze's organizer was described by one official as "the
address book of the professional terrorist." It
contained phone contacts in England, Italy, France and
Canada, as well as direct lines to El Maali's Zenica
headquarters. It led French authorities to trace
travels and phone records and to set up electronic
surveillance.

French counter-terrorism officials soon realized they
had stumbled upon more than a band of gangsters. Five
years before the sophisticated terrorist assault on
the U.S., the French were starting to uncover loosely
linked violent networks spreading into several
countries, all tied together by a common thread:
Bosnia.

One of the phone numbers in the dead terrorist's
organizer led to a suspect in Canada: Fateh Kamel, 41,
who ran a small trinkets shop in Montreal.
French authorities say Canada rejected their initial
request to investigate Kamel, calling the dapper
Algerian "just a businessman."

But Kamel also was a confidant of El Maali. He spoke
frequently to the Bosnia moujahedeen chief over his
wife's cell phone. Kamel had gone to Bosnia early in
the war, suffered a shrapnel wound in one leg and been
treated at the El Moujahed hospital by Caze, the young
medic.

Kamel first came to the attention of European
intelligence officials in 1994, when Italian agents
tracking suspected terrorists stumbled upon him
recruiting fighters in Milan for El Maali's brigade.
After the Dayton accord, French police say, Kamel
became deeply involved in terrorist logistics. He was
"the principal activist of an international network
determined to plan assassinations and to procure arms
and passports for terrorist acts all over the world,"
according to a French court document.

In 1996, an Italian surveillance team recorded Kamel
discussing a terrorist attack and taped him declaring:
"I do not fear death . . . because the jihad is the
jihad, and to kill is easy for me."
During the same period, Kamel assisted other North
African extremists relocating to Canada, exploiting
the country's lax immigration laws and Quebec's
eagerness for French-speaking immigrants such as
Algerians.

According to French investigators, Kamel was the
leader of a terrorist cell in Montreal. Other members
included Ressam, Atmani and a third roommate, Mustafa
Labsi.

Like Kamel, Atmani had served in Bosnia and was close
to El Maali. A U.S. law enforcement official described
Atmani as a "crazy warrior with a nose so broken and
twisted that he could sniff around corners."

Later, authorities believe, the three roommates went
to Afghanistan together to train for a terrorist
attack on the United States. They returned to the West
after learning that their target would be Los Angeles
International Airport. The conspiracy was interrupted
when Atmani was deported from Canada to Bosnia.

When Ressam, traveling alone, was captured at the
border with explosives in his rental car, U.S.
officials tried to track down his former roommate
Atmani.

Authorities had information that he was
traveling between Sarajevo and Istanbul, but Bosnian
officials denied even that Atmani had been deported
there. Investigators later learned that Atmani had
been issued a new Bosnian passport six months earlier.
Atmani was part of the hard-core terrorist group noted
in the secret State Department report. He remained
beyond the reach of international extradition until
this year, when he was arrested and turned over to
France by Bosnia's new coalition government. He awaits
sentencing on terrorism charges.

Kamel, the alleged ringleader of the group, was
arrested in Jordan and was extradited to France, where
he is in prison on a terrorism conviction. Ressam and
Labsi also have been jailed. All of the members of the
former Montreal cell have been convicted of being
operatives in a terrorist network that originated in
Bosnia.

James Steinberg, deputy national security advisor in
the Clinton administration, said that although the
U.S. works closely with countries in the Balkans to
deal with "the problem of these cells," the very
nature of secret terrorist organizations confounds
those efforts.

"It's one thing to [arrest] the people you know [are
terrorists], but then the others . . . bury themselves
even deeper," he said.

[Hurrem sultana]

you believe that ???

[Baluarte]

There is plenty of literature on it, both Atlanticist, Russian or French that I've read.

Care to proof the contrary?

[Onur]

you believe that ???
Well, it`s quite known that salafi wahhabis are trying to gain ground in Bosnia since the war and they are directly competing with the Ottoman heritage of the country. They really destroyed several Ottoman era mosques, demolished the old Ottoman graveyards according to their Wahhabi doctrines and they are trying to create new kind of islam in Bosnia, a wahhabi one instead of the traditional hanafism.

I posted a message here before, about the destruction of 500 year old Ottoman era mosques and replaced by new salafi ones;

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?60701-Arab-Wahhabi-vandalism-in-islam-s-historical-sites&p=1129572&viewfull=1#post1129572

[Hurrem sultana]

begova mosque is not destroyed,they just rebuilt the inside of the mosque in a different way

[Onur]

begova mosque is not destroyed,they just rebuilt the inside of the mosque in a different way
a different way? It is just the wahhabi way

This is nothing but destruction as there is no point carving out 500 year old beautiful ceramics from the walls and paint it with pure white à la salafi style. Those ceramics are priceless today and some of them gets exhibited in Paris and London museums but ofc wahhabis hates from those as they find it anti-islamic.

Unfortunately i saw pictures of more destroyed Ottoman heritage in Bosnia like this one. I could guess the Serbs who would like to destroy Ottoman heritage in there but i would never guess that one day Arabs would come and join Serbs for the destruction of this heritage.

[Mortimer]

It's funny that they mention Jews, who hardly live on the region, before the ones who actually live there like gypos serbs and croats. Oh well.

they hate jews for atlantozionism. like most other nazis. but i think the atlantozionists were always in favour of bosniaks before serbs.

[Diërker]

I have no idea why someone would mention my name in this thread. Im not a Bosniak Neo-Nazi.. lol
I dont even have much care for Bosnia no more, ive adapted to the american lifestyle. But likewise im proud of these kids, fighting the radical moslems out of our pure Bosnia is all the matters. America, FUCK YEAH

[Arrow Cross]

Why do they hate Tito?

Why not?

[Hurrem sultana]

a different way? It is just the wahhabi way

This is nothing but destruction as there is no point carving out 500 year old beautiful ceramics from the walls and paint it with pure white à la salafi style. Those ceramics are priceless today and some of them gets exhibited in Paris and London museums but ofc wahhabis hates from those as they find it anti-islamic.

Unfortunately i saw pictures of more destroyed Ottoman heritage in Bosnia like this one. I could guess the Serbs who would like to destroy Ottoman heritage in there but i would never guess that one day Arabs would come and join Serbs for the destruction of this heritage.

I guess the islamic community of Bosnia agreed on it

[Baluarte]

a different way? It is just the wahhabi way

This is nothing but destruction as there is no point carving out 500 year old beautiful ceramics from the walls and paint it with pure white à la salafi style. Those ceramics are priceless today and some of them gets exhibited in Paris and London museums but ofc wahhabis hates from those as they find it anti-islamic.

Unfortunately i saw pictures of more destroyed Ottoman heritage in Bosnia like this one. I could guess the Serbs who would like to destroy Ottoman heritage in there but i would never guess that one day Arabs would come and join Serbs for the destruction of this heritage.

This might be one of those times where I agree entirely with you.
With all its turbulent past, Ottoman-moderate Islam is far more desirable than what the pigs of the Gulf are exporting into the world.

[Hurrem sultana]

But its seriously non of your bussines what we do in our garden,so i am kindly saying-no one cares what you find desirable

[Baluarte]

But its seriously non of your bussines what we do in our garden,so i am kindly saying-no one cares what you find desirable

Only thing you can come up with?

It's an European problem since those Bosniak-protected terrorists have been implicated in attacks to other countries, like in Madrid 2004:


In the interim, the “success” of the March 11, 2004, attacks in Madrid would provide impetus for the attacks which intelligence reporting indicates have been planned for the August 2004 Athens Olympic Games. In attacks on the US and the Olympics, as with the attacks of March 11, 2004, in Madrid, the Bosnian Islamist network plays a crucial rôle. Attacks on the Olympics would risk to a certain degree the operational planning, distribution and safe-have hub which Bosnia has provided for the Islamist push into Europe, just as attacks in Australia would end the safe-haven status of that country for Islamists who have wished to move out of sight.

However, given the fact that both Osama bin Laden and his team, and the Iranian clerics are fighting for their lives, the short-term objective of survival should be expected to prevail over the risk of such attacks to the long-term viability of the safe-haven bases. Indeed, if Iran and bin Laden were to be successful in removing the Bush Administration in the US, the Aznar Administration in Spain and the Howard Administration in Australia, then it is entirely likely that they would have broken the back of their opposition, and the “war on terror” would be sidelined.

The push into Western and Central Europe by the Islamists would then move forward, including a renewed outbreak of war in Bosnia-Herzegovina — to drive the Serbs of Republica Srpska out of that remaining territory in Bosnia — and in Serbia, to remove the Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija as well as the Raška area of southern Serbia; and in Montenegro, to ensure the removal of Montenegrin Christians; and in Macedonia, to ensure the geographic security of the Muslim territory which could provide a clean, almost unbroken link from Afghanistan to the heart of Europe.

In all of this, the Bosnian network is paramount. It has provided weapons and manpower for the conflict against the US-led Coalitions in Iraq and Afghanistan during the past year, and provided the essential infrastructure in Europe which helped the Madrid attacks. Significantly, Bosnia-Herzegovina has in place in its UN Embassy in New York a committed Islamist, already tied to major war crimes. Just as it did in the run-up to the September 11, 2001, attacks. The US did not even investigate the links following September 11; the Bosniak leadership is counting on the fact that the US will not now look into the Bosnian link.

Find the full article here: http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Mar1204.htm

[Hurrem sultana]

Non of them from Bosnia at least

Bosnians wahabis are usually peaceful,just doing their own stuff,farming and selling milk,and such stuff

they can be compared to american amish

[Baluarte]

I do not their real origin since Sarajevo has been handing Middle Eastern terrorist passports for the last decade, maybe you're right, maybe most of them are actually nationalized Arabs and not native Bosnians, but the fact of the matter is that Wahhabo-Salafist terrorism has made a haven in BiH and the local authorities are...lenient, to say the least

[Hurrem sultana]

99% of them are natural bosniaks,the arabs have left since the war,maybe 2-3 are still in Bosnia because they married bosnian wives,but they too have adopted our lifestyle

[Onur]

I guess the islamic community of Bosnia agreed on it
Yes, i am sure the dirty Arab money was a convincing factor for that.

This is a shame for your 550+ year old hanafi islamic culture. Wahhabis cannot even be considered as muslims. They have been created by the western world. They are fake as well as their way of islam.

[Hurrem sultana]

why didnt turkey offer to help to restore the mosque then? of course arabs will do whats in their interest for their own money,and we could not possibly leave the mosque the way it was for better times(when we have enough money)

[Baluarte]

99% of them are natural bosniaks,the arabs have left since the war,maybe 2-3 are still in Bosnia because they married bosnian wives,but they too have adopted our lifestyle

o.O Do you really expect me to believe that:
1) there are only 2-3 Arabs left in BiH
2) Wahhabism and radical Islamism do not exist in you country
3) Not a single Bosniak is associated with terrorism

.....???

Granted, it is certainly a minoritary movement and the majority of the population do not identify with it. But what is concerning it's the tendency... 25 years ago, this kind of Salafist thugs wouldn't exist in Bosnia, yet today:



3. Wahhabism in B-H is an alien movement within B-H.

Despite this, it is particularly successful in recruiting young ‘converts’ from within the B-H moderate Muslim tradition and it identifies mainstream Bosnian Muslims as false Muslims and even as enemies. It has some potential to result in growing, and even violent, confrontation in B-H with moderate Muslims and non-Muslims alike. This could have serious ramifications for B-H in its efforts to maintain a pluralist society, as well as complicate the International war on terrorism by providing a safer environment for transient terrorists, bound for Western destinations.

In time, unless the Wahhabi growth is effectively stopped and reversed by the indigenous Muslim structures, the challenge of Wahhabism in B-H might have implications for the rest of Europe.

Just pointing out the future dangers.....
These guys don't work for BiH, they work for the same guys that Salafist always work for: The GCC, and specifically Saudi Arabia.

[Methmatician]

they can be compared to american amish

The Amish don't plan terrorist attacks and promote violence :D

Vehabije održale tribinu u centru Tuzle (http://www.mondo.rs/s279963/Info/ex-YU/Vehabije_odrzale_tribinu_u_centru_Tuzle.html)

Uhapšen vođa vehabija, planirao terorističke napade širom Evrope (http://www.pressonline.rs/info/politika/199965/uhapsen-vodja-vehabija-planirao-teroristicke-napade-sirom-evrope.html)

But in all seriousness Wahhabis are a threat to civilisation.

[Mraz]

I do not their real origin since Sarajevo has been handing Middle Eastern terrorist passports for the last decade, maybe you're right

This happened before 9/11, and those are not terrorist but Mujahedins, most left the country after the war. Those who stayed had troubles after 2001, you talk about last decade, but last decade was harsh for them, they got their BiH citizenship revoked, they were sent to Guantanamo by Bosnia, even if they were citizens of this country, they were harassed, just because they were Arabs.

After, yes there are Wahabis in Bosnia, but people don't accept them.

[Hurrem sultana]

This happened before 9/11, and those are not terrorist but Mujahedins, most left the country after the war. Those who stayed had troubles after 2001, you talk about last decade, but last decade was harsh for them, they got their BiH citizenship revoked, they were sent to Guantanamo by Bosnia, even if they were citizens of this country, they were harassed, just because they were Arabs.

After, yes there are Wahabis in Bosnia, but people don't accept them.

True

[Hurrem sultana]

The Amish don't plan terrorist attacks and promote violence :D

Vehabije održale tribinu u centru Tuzle (http://www.mondo.rs/s279963/Info/ex-YU/Vehabije_odrzale_tribinu_u_centru_Tuzle.html)

Uhapšen vođa vehabija, planirao terorističke napade širom Evrope (http://www.pressonline.rs/info/politika/199965/uhapsen-vodja-vehabija-planirao-teroristicke-napade-sirom-evrope.html)

But in all seriousness Wahhabis are a threat to civilisation.

Bas vidim kakve medije pratis :S

[Sultan Suleiman]

Shit :], I could have sworn I saw IM's picture once on their site.

[Sultan Suleiman]

You going to join them Luna? ;)

She already did :-]

[Sultan Suleiman]

Only thing you can come up with?

It's an European problem since those Bosniak-protected terrorists have been implicated in attacks to other countries, like in Madrid 2004:



Find the full article here: http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Mar1204.htm

I am sorry are we still talking about few hundred piss poor people with barely 4 high school diplomas between them, or about the bloody Reapers from Mass Effect?

[Hurrem sultana]

She already did :-]

do i look like a nazi?

[Sultan Suleiman]

do i look like a nazi?

Yes.

[Hurrem sultana]

Yes.

Heil :D

[Sultan Suleiman]

Heil :D

Polo

[Arbërori]

All Luna needs is a Nazi uniform, my God! :love: :kiss:

[Hurrem sultana]

All Luna needs is a Nazi uniform, my God! :love: :kiss:

:D

[Sultan Suleiman]

All Luna needs is a Nazi uniform, my God! :love: :kiss:

She wore it for me once, it does her no credit.

[Arbërori]

She wore it for me once, it does her no credit.

Luna, give me your skype for crying out loud... I want some ubermensch action aswell! :cry

[Loki]

Go on Luna, show us.

[Bosnjakinja]

Everybody knows how Luna looks like except me:-O

Wait, unless she was the girl in her avatar when I joined...hmmm..

[Arbërori]

Everybody knows how Luna looks like except me:-O

Wait, unless she was the girl in her avatar when I joined...hmmm..

She's hot like the sun. I'm Hitler non anti-Jewish style & she's my Eva Brown. :laugh:

[Hurrem sultana]

Everybody knows how Luna looks like except me:-O

Wait, unless she was the girl in her avatar when I joined...hmmm..

what avatar was it? :D

[Bosnjakinja]

Cute blonde with ljiljani flag in the background...prava mala bosancica :P

[Hurrem sultana]

thats me yes :D

[Arbërori]

thats me yes :D

Zasto ne stavis kakvu Bosnjakinju za avatar? Makni ovu pola Ruskinju. :D

[Hurrem sultana]

slatka mi ova skroz :D

[ALSh]

Cute blonde with ljiljani flag in the background...prava mala bosancica :P

I remember that too ;)

Firstly i thought the girl in her avatar might be a bosnian model :)

[CrystalMaiden]

SS and HS are part of it :p

[Loki]

They like Ataturk, so they sound reasonable.

[riverman]

They like Ataturk, so they sound reasonable.


I like Attaturk, am I reasonable?

[Loki]

I like Attaturk, am I reasonable?

From what I've seen, yes.

[CrystalMaiden]

They like Ataturk, so they sound reasonable.

I like that they share my stance about the j00s, but I hate that Sultana and Sultan are a part of it :p

[Loki]

I like that they share my stance about the j00s, but I hate that Sultana and Sultan are a part of it :p

Sultana, I doubt it. She likes Arabs and hates Ataturk.

[Annihilus]

Sultana, I doubt it. She likes Arabs and hates Ataturk.

That's because she is a blonde arab:ranger:

[Marko]

Just because people don't believe in race mixing dosent make them a Nazi. It just makes them conservative.

[CrystalMaiden]

Sultana, I doubt it. She likes Arabs and hates Ataturk.

There is a blonde on BPNP forums which goes by the name Bosnian, she posts about whiteness of few Arabs.

[Loki]

There is a blonde on BPNP forums which goes by the name Bosnian, she posts about whiteness of few Arabs.

That's probably Hurrem sultana herself lol :p

[Philo]

It's funny how CrystalMaiden keeps bitching about Jews when we don't give 2 fucks about that s**thole called "Bosnia":o

[Gorštak]

It's funny how CrystalMaiden keeps bitching about Jews when we don't give 2 fucks about that s**thole called "Bosnia":o
Broflovski, don't be upset.

[Philo]

Broflovski, don't be upset.

I am just using the same tactic you used on the Ruskies, Eric. :o

[riverman]

It's funny how CrystalMaiden keeps bitching about Jews when we don't give 2 fucks about that s**thole called "Bosnia":o


I've never heard anyone mention Bosnia, for any reason, so I don't think its just Jews who don't care about Bosnia.

[Gorštak]

I am just using the same tactic you used on the Ruskies, Eric. :o
It's nice to see that people follow me:laugh:
And I'm not like Eric, one other members have strong resemblance to him:p

[Philo]

I've never heard anyone mention Bosnia, for any reason, so I don't think its just Jews who don't care about Bosnia.
True dat.

It's nice to see that people follow me:laugh:
And I'm not like Eric, one other members have strong resemblance to him:p

So who's Eric, Viejo?
And so who are you, Mr. Garrison?

[Gorštak]

And so who are you, Mr. Garrison?
No.
South Park characters are to inferior for me.
I'm Vegeta, bitches.

[Gorštak]

I kinda liked them at first moment, I thought they're just a young patriotic guys who want to keep our national spirit, we need something like that, but lol, they actually have fascist attitudes(captain obvious:icon_cheesygrin:).
Too bad, it would have chance to become something serious and useful.

Some pics

http://zaslike.com/files/kibp8xoldwt4sjbzqufc.jpg
http://zaslike.com/files/rc1vg758bf719jkabihr.jpg


In Belgrade:lol00001:
http://zaslike.com/files/w2aexxflfjkx1mcq9vk.jpg

[Guapo]

^ lol what a bunch of skinny looking pussies

[Mraz]

Glad to see there are skin heads in Bosnia...They're 5. :eek:

[Shah-Jehan]

Bosnia's turning into Russia:eek::picard1:

[Gorštak]

Glad to see there are skin heads in Bosnia...They're 5. :eek:

If they actually live here, I'm sure they have more members in Sweden than in Bosnia.

[Gorštak]

Bosnia's turning into Russia:eek::picard1:
Yes, 20 neo nazis, and at least 10 of them are probably born, raised and live outside of Bosnia, alarm should be turned on:biggrin:

And they didn't do anything more radical than sharing promotional material around.

[KrashNick]

If they actually live here, I'm sure they have more members in Sweden than in Bosnia.

You can easily find Bosnian Nazis in Malmö :D

[Shah-Jehan]

Yes, 20 neo nazis, and at least 10 of them are probably born, raised and live outside of Bosnia, alarm should be turn on:biggrin:

Good then:D

[alb0zfinest]

lol are the Bosniaks forgetting that Hitler considered Slavs sub humans?

[Mraz]

Yes, 20 neo nazis, and at least 10 of them are probably born, raised and live outside of Bosnia, alarm should be turned on:biggrin:

And they didn't do anything more radical than sharing promotional material around.

Good, so I can bring my US flag and yell USA USA! Nobody will kick my ass :cool:

[Gorštak]

lol are the Bosniaks forgetting that Hitler considered Slavs sub humans?

Well, Bosniaks were officially Goths for Germans back then:viking3:

[Minesweeper]

You live in Sarajevo and you have never seen a skinhead? I'm surprised.

[Mraz]

lol are the Bosniaks forgetting that Hitler considered Slavs sub humans?

Nobody is subhuman when it comes to recruit cannon fodder.

[KrashNick]

lol are the Bosniaks forgetting that Hitler considered Slavs sub humans?
No , actually Hitler meet once a Myfti from Bosnia .

[Grenzland]

lol are the Bosniaks forgetting that Hitler considered Slavs sub humans?

That's simply not true.

[alb0zfinest]

No , actually Hitler meet once a Myfti from Bosnia .

Hitler did consider Slavs sub humans. He said this many times. What he did desperately in the end to finish his cause (kill the Jews) is another matter. He considered blacks sub humans too but at the end he allied with some of them, for the sake of trying to win the war. Hell he even talked to the Mufti of Palestine because he knew arabs shared the ideology of making the Jews non existant. So he hoped someone else could continue to do what he couldn't finish.

[alb0zfinest]

That's simply not true.

Look up who Hitler considered untermensch. Or even the Nazi ideology in general.

[Grenzland]

Thanks, I've already done that...

[KrashNick]

Hitler did consider Slavs sub humans. He said this many times. What he did desperately in the end to finish his cause (kill the Jews) is another matter. He considered blacks sub humans too but at the end he allied with some of them, for the sake of trying to win the war. Hell he even talked to the Mufti of Palestine because he knew arabs shared the ideology of making the Jews non existant. So he hoped someone else could continue to do what he couldn't finish.

Yeah i know that , he said about the Slavs that "he should not let them to have a country" .
He even said about albanians that he like them because they don't mix with other people and are pure race .

[Grenzland]

A lot of people said a lot of different things...

[alb0zfinest]

Thanks, I've already done that...

Well than why are you disagreeing? That was Nazi ideology. Jews, Gypsies, Slavic peoples all were considered sub human.

[Grenzland]

Well than why are you disagreeing? That was Nazi ideology. Jews, Gypsies, Slavic peoples all were considered sub human.

Jews were the eternal enemy, the Weltenfeind.

Gypsies were just useless trash, antisocial.

Slaves were just an other race, nothing more.

[Shah-Jehan]

Jews were the eternal enemy, the Weltenfeind.

Gypsies were just useless trash, antisocial.

Slaves were just an other race, nothing more.
Slavs were untermenschen though, but, Croats/Bosniaks were not considered slavs but, Slavicised Goths like Bulgarians weren't...

[Grenzland]

And the Russian volunteers?

[Gorštak]

What I don't get how can they support guy like Varg Vikernes.
Ok, they're irreligious and very negative towards radical Islam, but they're Bosniaks and even thought Islam in Bosnia is modernized and it isn't in conflict with any modern European value or law, Bosniaks will be hated by Vikernes and other fanatics.

[Shah-Jehan]

What I don't get how can they support guy like Varg Vikernes.
Ok, they're irreligious and very negative towards radical Islam, but they're Bosniaks and even thought Islam in Bosnia is modernized and it isn't in conflict with any modern European value or law, Bosniaks will be hated by Vikernes and other fanatics.

How do you know they do?

[Gorštak]

How do you know they do?

They are active on internet and facebook.
It seems that there is decent number of confused Bosniaks, because of their negative attitude toward radical Islam they find cool some people who "have guts to speak the truth" not realising that for those guys liberal Muslim from Bosnia deserve same faith as some radical fanatics(I remember interview with Vikernes where he stayed that he regret because he couldn't come to fight with Serbs against "Muslims").
But when we talk about that guy, he is at least consistent in attitudes, he also consider Christianity as threat to Europe and I think he was in prison because he destroyed some church lol.

For a some radicalism, solution isn't other radicalism.

[Shah-Jehan]

They are active on internet and facebook.
It seems that there is decent number of confused Bosniaks, because of their negative attitude toward radical Islam they find cool some people who "have guts to speak the truth" not realising that for those guys liberal Muslim from Bosnia deserve same faith as some radical fanatics(I remember interview with Vikernes where he stayed that he regret because he couldn't come to fight with Serbs against "Muslims").
But when we talk about that guy, he is at least consistent in attitudes, he also consider Christianity as threat to Europe and I think he was in prison because he destroyed some church lol.
The Balkans is quite messed up, really...

[Gorštak]

The Balkans is quite messed up, really...

On Balkan you have different cultures, good air, hot girls and party all the time, for a people like me Balkan is great place for living, who cares about radicals of all kinds;)
Of course, you always must be ready to be mobilised for war:lol:

[Melina]

So i just found out we have bosniak neo nazis :D they want to preserve the white bosniak race,are against mixing,are very anti arab etc

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4595/28158505134366188722174.jpg


http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2116/73401750511372285745386.jpg

What is written on the posters?

[Melina]

Yes, 20 neo nazis, and at least 10 of them are probably born, raised and live outside of Bosnia, alarm should be turned on:biggrin:

And they didn't do anything more radical than sharing promotional material around.

Same was said about Hitler before he came to power. Nobody thought he would rise to power.

[Gorštak]

What is written on the posters?

1. Narod koji strepi od njihove demokracije!
(A people who are afraid of their democracy!)

Parlamentarna većina
(The parliament representatives)


A message of second photo is that Bosniaks should boycott McDonalds and unhealthy lifestyle who are
promoted by Western cultural, and that we should stay healthy rosy cheeks people ;)

[Hurrem sultana]

I realize these guys are just kids,mostly from diaspora who have no idea what they want and grow out of it as soon as they reach a certain age

And they are not more than 10 in whole Bosnia lol

thread should be deleted ,i regret openen it :D

[Illancha]

Apparently we also have them.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?87117-Chechen-Neo-Nazis-killed-two-Muslim-immigrants

And welcome back if you're here to stay.

[Hurrem sultana]

chechen nazis too :D oh gosh :D

thanks

[CrystalMaiden]

I realize these guys are just kids,mostly from diaspora who have no idea what they want and grow out of it as soon as they reach a certain age

And they are not more than 10 in whole Bosnia lol

thread should be deleted ,i regret openen it :D

Stop lying.

We all saw your picture saluting before that Swastika :p

[teodor11]

they are anti turkey,anti serbia,ant everyone

they do seem to like ataturk

ataturk lived 1920' years. ataturk was not hitler or mussolini or stalin..

he was not anti- etc.. he created a nation.

[Gorštak]

ataturk lived 1920' years. ataturk was not hitler or mussolini or stalin..

he was not anti- etc.. he created a nation.

It's so wrong to compare Ataturk with those boys on any way.

[Gorštak]

In last time I'm more into their ideals, they really have a lot of actually good points.
They are extremely nationalists, extremly anti-Serbia, educate young people about history and fight for our culture without foreign influence, call young people to live healthy, to go to gym, train, to be active in society, they say loud what we all think:"whatever you call them, we don't want that new type of long beards weird dressed Muslims who don't support state law around. Expel missionaries and convert back locals who joined them".
I can agree with them in many things.
But like every movement of that type, they are hysterical about "Jews who rule the world" and extremely intolerant towards LBGT population.
Also they are very anti Turkish and can't stand Turkish students in Sarajevo, ignoring that modern Turkey is friend of modern Bosnia.
So, even though they have some good points, they are still too much fascist and xenophobic for my taste.
I mean, even those early mentioned "long beards weird dressed Muslims" have some good points, what still doesn't makes them good for society.
http://www.zaslike.com/files/lxf0oqlx7fasycn7wzja.jpg

[Gorštak]

http://www.zaslike.com/files/kg76t6ak7iyalbhaigpc.jpg

lol at pics they post on facebook
http://www.zaslike.com/files/jj7gqkgd8ynfw7c56pq.jpghttp://www.zaslike.com/files/g3xt5bxf1osdydov26rq.jpghttp://www.zaslike.com/files/buqdhh008p0ic5c7ufe.jpg

[dralos]

blacky swine werent you saying that you dont care about being european but keep showing these neofucks muslim servs to be accepted by europeans,how ironic :p

[Gorštak]

blacky swine werent you saying that you dont care about being european but keep showing these neofucks muslim servs to be accepted by europeans,how ironic :p

draljos, draljos, outside of bakery you understand nothing.
Nazis don't rule Europe you know, actually you can end in prison if you are one.

[dralos]

draljos, draljos, outside of bakery you understand nothing.
Nazis don't rule Europe you know, actually you can end in prison if you are one.
but you know many here support them so thats why you keep posting them and yes you will end up in my bakery,dirty muslim serv hahahaha

[Gorštak]

but you know many here support them so thats why you keep posting them and yes you will end up in my bakery,dirty muslim serv hahahaha

I didnt't make thread about them, and I will write whatever I want, bakery boy.

[dralos]

I didnt't make thread about them, and I will write whatever I want, bakery boy.
offcourse you will,muslim serv

[Lucifer]

one must be idiot to shave his hair skin heads look homo in my opinion.