please - tell me about this "Magyar Viking"

[lei.talk]

http://i48.tinypic.com/dnh5zt.png (http://www.vikingbolt.hu/info.php?p=12)

your patience with my ignorance.
is appreciated.
:nod:
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[Loki]

They were probably more fierce than the Estonian Vikings!

[Arrow Cross]

The article speculates that Tyrker, one of the architects of the 1000 AD voyage to discover Vinland was originally a Hungarian, since we used to be called Turks/Tyrks back then, and our various military expeditions established contact on multiple fronts from 895 on. Apparently, Saint Stephen also had a Varangian elite guard force.

[lei.talk]

Arrow Cross http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75142&p=1487695&viewfull=1#post1487695)....one of the architects of the 1000 AD voyage to discover Vinland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson#Discovering_Vinland) was originally a Hungarian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_people#History_after_900),
since we used to be called Turks/Tyrks back then...

was hungary inhabited by the turks
or ruled by turkey at that time?

why did the name change from "Turks" to hungarians?

Arrow Cross http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75142&p=1487695&viewfull=1#post1487695)...our various military expeditions established contact on multiple fronts from 895 on.
Apparently, Saint Stephen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_I_of_Hungary) also had a Varangian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians) elite guard force.

does the author seem sincere and offer any references?
does the web-site seem legitimate and honest?


http://i48.tinypic.com/dnh5zt.png (http://www.vikingbolt.hu/index2.php?action=startpage)
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[Onur]

was hungary inhabited by the turks
or ruled by turkey at that time?

why did the name change from "Turks" to hungarians?

Read this;

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?66974-Kurult%E1j-The-Eastern-Tribal-Assembly&p=1276582&viewfull=1#post1276582

[nelopj]

was hungary inhabited by the turks
or ruled by turkey at that time?

why did the name change from "Turks" to hungarians?


They not necessarily call themselves turks. They were ethnically turks but they were assimilated into the hungarians. But hungarian historians steal their history and tell us they were real hungarians, while they ignore the history of the real hungarians.

[Zmey Gorynych]

They were probably more fierce than the Estonian Vikings!
... of course, türanic vikings are the better vikings

[Géza]

Arrow Cross http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75142&p=1487695&viewfull=1#post1487695)....one of the architects of the 1000 AD voyage to discover Vinland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson#Discovering_Vinland) was originally a Hungarian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_people#History_after_900),
since we used to be called Turks/Tyrks back then...

was hungary inhabited by the turks
or ruled by turkey at that time?

why did the name change from "Turks" to hungarians?


Byzantine sources called Ancient Hungarians as "Turks". F.e. Constantinos Porphyrogenetos. Western authors called them "Huns". This historically anachronistic titules had a heritage among the early Medieval authors. F.e. Byzantine authors used the "Scythian" term to early Medieval Steppe People, whos had nothing to do with original IE Scythians.

Personally I don't believe that that Tyrker would be Hungarian. It may be the miswrite of "Tysker", what was more logical. How do it know?


Arrow Cross http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75142&p=1487695&viewfull=1#post1487695)...our various military expeditions established contact on multiple fronts from 895 on.
Apparently, Saint Stephen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_I_of_Hungary) also had a Varangian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians) elite guard force.

does the author seem sincere and offer any references?
does the web-site seem legitimate and honest?


http://i48.tinypic.com/dnh5zt.png (http://www.vikingbolt.hu/index2.php?action=startpage)


Hungary under the Árpád-house had close connections with the Kiyev Rus and the Byzantine Empire. The Byzantine Emperors had the Varangian Guard what was continually recruited from Scandinavia and Anglo-Saxon Britain. The system was similar like as the Swiss Guard nowadays. This Byzantine system was borrowed by Saint Stephen, but it disappeared after Stephens dead. Hovewer the connection with the later Slavicized Rus had continued, the Hungarian kings were the ruler of Halych-Volhynia, sometimes nominal, sometimes effectively. In the other hand his wife was Bavarian, hence he had Bavarian troops too like as Hont and Pazman knightes, founders of two medieval Hungarian aristocratic family.

[lei.talk]

Géza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9za_I_of_Hungary) http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75142&p=1539443&viewfull=1#post1539443) I don't believe that Tyrker would be Hungarian. It may be the miswrite of "Tysker (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tysk#Noun)",
which is more logical.

more logical because
the chronicle of leif erikson's journey to vinland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Ericson#Discovering_Vinland)
was written in a nordic language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_languages#Family_tree)

and germany was much closer than hungary?

Géza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9za_I_of_Hungary) http://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?75142&p=1539443&viewfull=1#post1539443) Byzantine sources called Ancient Hungarians as "Turks". F.e. Constantinos Porphyrogenetos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_VII).




"in medieval Greek (Τουρκία), the name of the Khazar Khaganate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars) ("eastern Tourkia") and of the Principality of Hungary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Hungary) ("western Tourkia") - not the geographic area now known as Turkey. Instead, they were mostly synonymous with Tartary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartary) - the khaganates of the Central Asian steppe. A letter by Ishbara Qaghan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishbara_Qaghan) to Emperor Wen of Sui (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Wen_of_Sui) in 585 described him as "the Great Turk Khan". The Orhun inscriptions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkhon_inscriptions) (735 CE) use the terms Turk and Turuk. The first recorded direct use of the term "Türk" or "Türük" as an autonym is attested in the Orkhon inscriptions of the Köktürks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6kt%C3%BCrks) (Blue Turks) of Central Asia (early 8th century). An early form of the same name may be reflected in the form of "tie-le" (铁勒) or "tu-jue" (突厥), name given by the Chinese to the people living south of the Altay Mountains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altai_Mountains) of Central Asia as early as 177 BC."
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[Proto-Shaman]

Personally I don't believe that that Tyrker would be Hungarian. It may be the miswrite of "Tysker", what was more logical. How do it know?
Tusk or Турск/Tursk is also how Turks are/were called by some south Europeans and Russians.